Hi. If you like Dream Theater and prog. Metal. Please take your time to listen to the danish band prog. metal band Third Eye. Their 'Recipe For Disaster' album just received numerous awards for best album of 2010. Unfortunately they have trouble getting promoted, but if you go to their myspace by typing /thirdeyeband you can help them gain fame by listening to them.
Obviously there is no secret recipee for Progressive metal, but I still like the lesson, as it inspires you to try something different and unconventional. So yeah, I quite like it, as it gives me Ideas to experiment, which is always good ;)
@ScottySolace Not really. Look at Tool, they play in Drop D usually. Tunings shouldn't define what genre you play. Look at Cynic; They play Technical Death Jazz metal in Standard tuning for example.
K no offense but progressive metal is just a grown up complex version of 80s metal. Bands like Lamb Of God, Disturbed, Five Finger Death Punch... use this crap.
I'm not a huge melodic fan but I do enjoy the older styles. Personally, if you want to learn newer types of music you should start listening to music OUTSIDE your comfort zone. Listen to Meshuggah, Gojira, Melvins, Jesus Lizard, UNTIL you realize that music isn't just about playing pyshcologically satisfying melodies.
@burgermikestir you must be listening to some stupid progressive metal then. check out between the buried and me OR after the burial OR animals as leaders
I always thought that progressive was mainly attributed with the odd time signatures, and the very sudden changes between very different riffs, themes, and styles in one song.
@MrCl1nt It's all in thinking outside of the box man. It doesn't really have to be all off-time and stuff, but having all the elements you named just make it more identifiable I guess. I enjoy being able to listen to prog and still nod my head with the beat. Then again, I fucking love PsyOpus (please check them out if you haven't) due to their insanely un-predictable patterns, themes and ridiculous time sig changes. It could go either way!
Most people recognise Progressive Metal as a genre with different time signitures in between.
I, myself, sometimes also make the mistake and drop a band to the Progressive stuff just because of odd time sigs.
I know it's not true but there's sometihing in odd time sigs and rhythms which is really recognisable!
Anyway, this is particularly not a progressive riff but a quite good stuff for practicing as an amateur. So thanks for the lesson, nice riff to learn!
I think you guys are misunderstanding what prog metal is. It means metal with non-conventional structures, complex instrumentation and odd time signatures. It doesn't really have anything to do with diverse influences. A metal band with very diverse influences would be called avant-garde metal.
@llamasownyou Diverse influences are very common in progressive music; in a way, you even said it yourself. Non-conventional structures are used, meaning structures that would normally be found in other genres ouside a band's own genre, and this is where the diverse influences play a role. A lot of progressive bands (whether they be rock or metal) incorporate elements from jazz, classical, and even world music when they arrange their music or write particular phrases.
@minzulla You don't drop to D for the dark mood, it's basically for the position and power chords will be easier. An idea would be to drop the whole guitar to D standard, maybe that's what you ment? :p Or even C.
@NoaOno Open C sounds so good on an acoustic. And the only reason I have found it necessary to drop D is if there is an open D in the song that you have to have. If you just want a different sound, you really need a completely alternate tuning because Drop D doesn't really sound that different.
you know the part in the waynes word movie that says "no stairway to heaven"? the musicstore where i used to be has a sign that says "no dude with black label society influences"
Isn't Progressive Metal supposed to step out of the bounds of metal, somehow incorporating "non-metal" ideas into metal, thereby making it "progress" into unplayed territory? Progressive is less a genre, more a mentality. You can't make a "progressive sttyle riff" because You can't confine "progressive" into a category, otherwise it's not progressive. Eg; Opeth bringing in the Nick Drake influence. A metal band influence heavily by non-metal music. The sythesis of the two make it progressive
@guitgrinder Also, it's given the name because the unconventional song structure of progressive rock/metal allows the direction of the music to "progress," constantly changing, cycling through many riffs, dynamics and moods, instead of having the very consistent sound of most conventional music; this is why progressive rock/metal songs can get VERY long, and not just because of this but also because this kind of musician seeks over-the-topness and self-indulgence in their songwriting.
@guitgrinder progressive refers more to the construction of the song itself, meaning instead of intro, verse, chorus, verse, it flows better and generally doesnt follow the usual song structure
This is a great 'lay' explanation. Art music was constantly 'progressing'. Beethoven and subsequent composers continued to explore harmonic and rhythmic ideas beyond that which preceeded them. 'Style' was particular to a composer, though others of the same time might use the same or similar harmonic lanugage (for example, Debussy, Ravel, and Satie).
But theres a silver lining in progressive music though. The structure and by the end of the day, its still metal nonetheless. Different approach is all. You have progressive music ranging from Rush and yes up until queensryche, DT etc. But you also have some of them that incorporated the "softer" side of progressive. Like Beardfish for example. Its the structure and tonality. Playing the less popular way with more kick!
@guitgrinder Progressive also includes building with technical techniques, non basic song structure and odd timing, you don't need to mix genres, that all comes from influences and what you're listening to, not always just forcing it in there
@guitgrinder Of course, but for those who are not as good on the guitar as e.g. the guys from Opeth, and for those who are not in bands as big as e.g. (again) Opeth, it is a good tip to get an idea of the technique and playing style that is different from the regular shredding. Then if you practice a lot, you can get more creative while playing and making your own style more progressive than these tips. Get off your high horse.
@guitgrinder FUCK GENRE DEBATING!!!! AND FUCK GENRE DEBATERS!!! MUSIC IS MUSIC!! Everyone's ears, brain, and heart react to it in their own special way which is what gives it it's magic!! STOP trying to make yourself sound smarter by thinking your OPINION of a genre is more "correct" than some one else's. Music wasn't made to be put in a box and fucking analyzed to DEATH. People like you are FUCKING RUINING MUSIC FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!
@guitgrinder In every day talk, I think metal incorporating a considerable amount of time signature changes gets to be called progressive. This really was progressive back in the ninties I guess, or not at all since most classical music is really fucked up time signature-wise. Well my point is, the using of odd time signatures gave the genre it's name, which probably will stick with it.
ofcourse you can!!!!! just follow different scales like phrygian,blues minor and some nice off-beats...you're done!!! nevertheless you can create your own stuff and call it progressive...like funky-jazz stuff that bands like rush prefer....it's the best genre in the world!!!!!SO FREE!!!!! :P
@guitgrinder which begs the question...what is metal?...and how far can it be pushed...imo its not so much about bringing in outside influences from other forms of music...but rather expanding what can be considered "metal"...like sabbath sounded one way...then 10 12 yrs later...metallica expands the same style...but without bringing any other outside influence...see?...i mean "seek and destroy"..is not much different than old sabbath...but boundarie were pushed ..thus "progression"
@arkee71 I have a counter-question that will perhaps answer your question: what you'll get if you remove the distortion from the sabbath, metallica, etc.? Then dress those guys up in office suits and get them the auditory with icecream and "Hello Kitty".
@VinniePaah You'd get a lot of palm muting on the clean channel, which typically doesn't sound very good. The key to progress is to make advancements. How much progress is made during the course of "Iron Man"? If the song never changes, does it ever really progress?
@guitgrinder nah I think you misunderstand the meaning of "progressive". Theres loads of metal in fact probably the majority of metal incorporates other elements into it. That doesn't make it progressive.
@guitgrinder No, that's only part of what "Progressive" means. The other part is common usage of odd time signiatures, highly technical playing on all instruments, etc. Usually, progressive players are sound in Music Theory.
@guitgrinder Yup, but there's another way of looking at prog metal. It's lots of spacious (usually long) riffs coming one after another, with many wierd and unusual time signatures, taking the listener on an epic journey in mind of a landscape. It doesn't have to be anything new.
@guitgrinder Technically what you've defined is closer to Avant garde , but Progressive music generally does try to be different and experiment a bit. However , although you are correct , there is another definition of progressive music which defines it as involving strange timings , time signatures and accenting notes that sound 'out of place' , etc. Theres a few definitons i suppose ; you are correct , but this video is regarding the other definition.
@guitgrinder no. the point is to progress. change, alternate, progress. plus it also stemmed from jazz which typically strays from 4/4. its supposed to be complicated and new and always progressing. adding different genres isn't necessary to be new as fucking pop culture wants us to believe, and sometimes it ruins a good thing
Progressive metal is much more complex than this simple scale. Dream Theater, Symphony X and Opeth are great bands that are different in their approach to music and sound yet united under the banner of "progressive metal"
the whole idea of progressive music is that it progresses through so many different structures, moods, keys, styles etc. You CANNOT teach it, it is what it is
ok how do you get ur guitar to have tht much distortion? im trying soo hard but cant. i wanna make a screamo band. I need a more high gain sound. i gotta epiphone les paul and and a marshall mg100dfx. ANY HELP?
could have done with some triple picking to make it cooler but not bad. Distortion sound is pretty bad, sounds like one of those fab distortion pedals plugged into a big transistor amp
There isn't in the standard E phrygian, but a phrygian dominant has a major 3rd instead of the minor 3rd. Remember, E phrygian has a flat 2nd, 3rd, 6th and 7th (compared to E ionian or Major).E maj has a G#, E Phryg usually flattens this to a G, so you're just re-sharpening it. As it has a major 3rd and a flat 7th, it is called a 'dominant' phrygian mode.Some might refer to it as a major phrygian scale, but this isn't strictly true, as the flat 7th gives it the dominant feel.
@Intotheorchard i understand what you mean when you say that lower tunings don't give a heavy sound but in a lot of cases it does. i guess you kinda have to define "heavy"
@yaxowx Heavy and low are not the same thing. Giving a lower pitch does not make something heavy. The heavy sound is achieved through dynamics and rhythmic phrasing. This is why bands that play in standard tuning can sound just as heavy as a band that tunes down to G.
@Intotheorchard if you have a very low downtuned guitar and you make heavy riffs, there will be a difference and it will sound more ´´heavy´´, but the riffs and the arrangement makes the real ´´heavy´´ stuff, like the bass, and the drums
@SemiTall that's because everyone does it. unfortunately too many people crank up the distortion and just play licks they've learned over and over in different keys, they don't do their own stuff
I don't think Progressive Metal can really be explained in the way it is developed or structured, it's always different and all the different artists under the genre work differently to the next. That's what makes it great!
@themanwins yea i always use to be confused like wtf is progressive some kid gave me all these so called prog bands but they sounded similar and i was like wtf? if ur progressive doesnt that mean ur progressing something? if these guys sound the same they cant be progressive..
@tanvo93 Progressive metal is rather a new genre compared to others and its largely underground. And its only starting to expand because its only just starting to gain interest, that's usually why most Prog metal bands either sound like one of 3 bands Dream Theater, Fates Warning Or Queensyche ... Its like when Nu-metal started to appear, the first generation of bands to the genre all sounded identical. You understand?
@TheRandomBassist it makes sence but what about 90's music bands like Korn deftones rage against the machine tool..those bands are heavy bands dont sound identical at all..also gojira and tool are considered to be progressive they sound nothing like dreath theater and stuff..i think progressive should be what their name suggest they are creative genre pushing bands they dont stick within a genre..
@deathoctober no dude..think about the word progressive..its like progressing its suppose to be progressing a genre in a sence or pushing a genre..so its a way of creativity..so ur just trying to make some creative music that happens to be metal..the time signatures are just one way to show creativity..but when alot of people wright music they dont think time signatures it just happens that the parts are technical through creativity "creativity"!!! hahahaa
Apparently you don't know thrash at all, or much of it. Look up bands like Artillery, Hexen, Watchtower and the like. You'll be very surprised at how technical thrash can be.
Your guitar is soooo nice! :D
ShredTheSolo 3 months ago
Is that a LTD VIPER 50 guitar ?
gabrielhunk 5 months ago
that riff was fuckin sick !!!
cozkul 5 months ago
My friend plays that same guitar :)
rockinarmy 8 months ago
It reminds me a lot of Opeth
9BeForewarned7 10 months ago 2
are you playing with a peavey bandit 100?
GianMariaVolonte666 10 months ago
actually petrucci has realesed a real progressive scale...
MrFobler 11 months ago
part of the love of music is to share the know how with others! good job guys
LastoftheOldMachine 11 months ago
Hey Andrew, you got a killer sound here, may i ask which amp, hardware and eventual pedals you use?
oliien 11 months ago
Hi. If you like Dream Theater and prog. Metal. Please take your time to listen to the danish band prog. metal band Third Eye. Their 'Recipe For Disaster' album just received numerous awards for best album of 2010. Unfortunately they have trouble getting promoted, but if you go to their myspace by typing /thirdeyeband you can help them gain fame by listening to them.
Chazorvigg 11 months ago
Dream Theater can say it all..
123markydemons 1 year ago
@ everyone:
Obviously there is no secret recipee for Progressive metal, but I still like the lesson, as it inspires you to try something different and unconventional. So yeah, I quite like it, as it gives me Ideas to experiment, which is always good ;)
ScaRav90 1 year ago 3
Prog. metal rarely uses 6 strings, and when 6 strings are used, it's detuned, usually to B.
but i guess that doesn't really matter for an instructional video's purposes... I'm just saying.
ScottySolace 1 year ago
@ScottySolace Not really. Look at Tool, they play in Drop D usually. Tunings shouldn't define what genre you play. Look at Cynic; They play Technical Death Jazz metal in Standard tuning for example.
adj209 11 months ago
K no offense but progressive metal is just a grown up complex version of 80s metal. Bands like Lamb Of God, Disturbed, Five Finger Death Punch... use this crap.
I'm not a huge melodic fan but I do enjoy the older styles. Personally, if you want to learn newer types of music you should start listening to music OUTSIDE your comfort zone. Listen to Meshuggah, Gojira, Melvins, Jesus Lizard, UNTIL you realize that music isn't just about playing pyshcologically satisfying melodies.
burgermikestir 1 year ago
@burgermikestir Gojira, fuck yeah! :D
wallytalivan 11 months ago 2
@burgermikestir you must be listening to some stupid progressive metal then. check out between the buried and me OR after the burial OR animals as leaders
guitarnukka724 11 months ago
Ten bucks says this riff's on DT's next CD.
Critdizzle 1 year ago
in my opinion a progressive metal band is a band that progresses through many different genre's in one song i.e.- Between the Buried and Me
almostSkater411 1 year ago
this isnt really progressive im my opinion, it's like a jam song. awesome riff though
deviantmelodies 1 year ago
am i the only one who starts to suck really bad when they start thinking about the scales they are playing
shagrat32 1 year ago
@shagrat32 ha no. i do to D=
DescentFromHeaven 1 year ago
I always thought that progressive was mainly attributed with the odd time signatures, and the very sudden changes between very different riffs, themes, and styles in one song.
MrCl1nt 1 year ago
@MrCl1nt It's all in thinking outside of the box man. It doesn't really have to be all off-time and stuff, but having all the elements you named just make it more identifiable I guess. I enjoy being able to listen to prog and still nod my head with the beat. Then again, I fucking love PsyOpus (please check them out if you haven't) due to their insanely un-predictable patterns, themes and ridiculous time sig changes. It could go either way!
summitthescale 1 year ago
it's a matter of knowledge.
Most people recognise Progressive Metal as a genre with different time signitures in between.
I, myself, sometimes also make the mistake and drop a band to the Progressive stuff just because of odd time sigs.
I know it's not true but there's sometihing in odd time sigs and rhythms which is really recognisable!
Anyway, this is particularly not a progressive riff but a quite good stuff for practicing as an amateur. So thanks for the lesson, nice riff to learn!
kilipeti 1 year ago
I think you guys are misunderstanding what prog metal is. It means metal with non-conventional structures, complex instrumentation and odd time signatures. It doesn't really have anything to do with diverse influences. A metal band with very diverse influences would be called avant-garde metal.
llamasownyou 1 year ago
@llamasownyou Diverse influences are very common in progressive music; in a way, you even said it yourself. Non-conventional structures are used, meaning structures that would normally be found in other genres ouside a band's own genre, and this is where the diverse influences play a role. A lot of progressive bands (whether they be rock or metal) incorporate elements from jazz, classical, and even world music when they arrange their music or write particular phrases.
bassman7530 1 year ago
lol. It's like expertvillage but specifically guitar. Expertvillage fails.
6mini6ulrich6 1 year ago
Would this riff sound good in Drop D? I know a hell of a lot of shit people play with Phrygian scales is in Drop for the extra dark mood.
minzulla 1 year ago
@minzulla You don't drop to D for the dark mood, it's basically for the position and power chords will be easier. An idea would be to drop the whole guitar to D standard, maybe that's what you ment? :p Or even C.
NoaOno 1 year ago
@NoaOno Open C sounds so good on an acoustic. And the only reason I have found it necessary to drop D is if there is an open D in the song that you have to have. If you just want a different sound, you really need a completely alternate tuning because Drop D doesn't really sound that different.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
That's a very nice fretboard.
signinname41 1 year ago
A harmonic minor
54MProductions 1 year ago
Prog metal is the best metal out there. unless it has 80s style vocals.. then it blows..
VivaEmptiness420 1 year ago
you know the part in the waynes word movie that says "no stairway to heaven"? the musicstore where i used to be has a sign that says "no dude with black label society influences"
thyrfing2 1 year ago
i agree there shouldnt be videos explaining progressive, it cant be explained with a formula.
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afloodedmindband 1 year ago
Spanich Flamenco in electric guitar... so powerfull
ungerdass 1 year ago 3
Isn't Progressive Metal supposed to step out of the bounds of metal, somehow incorporating "non-metal" ideas into metal, thereby making it "progress" into unplayed territory? Progressive is less a genre, more a mentality. You can't make a "progressive sttyle riff" because You can't confine "progressive" into a category, otherwise it's not progressive. Eg; Opeth bringing in the Nick Drake influence. A metal band influence heavily by non-metal music. The sythesis of the two make it progressive
guitgrinder 1 year ago 273
@guitgrinder I imagine it as a metally version of progressive rock. So it's progressive-ness is second hand through the prog rock tradition
Now, avante garde or experimental metal..
jacobromu 1 year ago
@guitgrinder Also, it's given the name because the unconventional song structure of progressive rock/metal allows the direction of the music to "progress," constantly changing, cycling through many riffs, dynamics and moods, instead of having the very consistent sound of most conventional music; this is why progressive rock/metal songs can get VERY long, and not just because of this but also because this kind of musician seeks over-the-topness and self-indulgence in their songwriting.
n30l1nk 1 year ago
@guitgrinder progressive refers more to the construction of the song itself, meaning instead of intro, verse, chorus, verse, it flows better and generally doesnt follow the usual song structure
Shivemaster 1 year ago
@guitgrinder
This is a great 'lay' explanation. Art music was constantly 'progressing'. Beethoven and subsequent composers continued to explore harmonic and rhythmic ideas beyond that which preceeded them. 'Style' was particular to a composer, though others of the same time might use the same or similar harmonic lanugage (for example, Debussy, Ravel, and Satie).
aculturemind 1 year ago
@guitgrinder
But theres a silver lining in progressive music though. The structure and by the end of the day, its still metal nonetheless. Different approach is all. You have progressive music ranging from Rush and yes up until queensryche, DT etc. But you also have some of them that incorporated the "softer" side of progressive. Like Beardfish for example. Its the structure and tonality. Playing the less popular way with more kick!
blekdood 1 year ago
@guitgrinder that's why he said "playing in the style of"
stoob1969 1 year ago
@guitgrinder Progressive also includes building with technical techniques, non basic song structure and odd timing, you don't need to mix genres, that all comes from influences and what you're listening to, not always just forcing it in there
XanaduMyHome 1 year ago
@guitgrinder I like your comment and agree totally.
However, it's interesting how it really IS possible to make a "progressive metal" riff, despite prog metal not being a style per se like you said.
elchafa 11 months ago
@guitgrinder "Progressive" actually initially referred to the non-repetitive rock genre.
Stormwoken 11 months ago
@guitgrinder Of course, but for those who are not as good on the guitar as e.g. the guys from Opeth, and for those who are not in bands as big as e.g. (again) Opeth, it is a good tip to get an idea of the technique and playing style that is different from the regular shredding. Then if you practice a lot, you can get more creative while playing and making your own style more progressive than these tips. Get off your high horse.
stakleni00 11 months ago
@guitgrinder FUCK GENRE DEBATING!!!! AND FUCK GENRE DEBATERS!!! MUSIC IS MUSIC!! Everyone's ears, brain, and heart react to it in their own special way which is what gives it it's magic!! STOP trying to make yourself sound smarter by thinking your OPINION of a genre is more "correct" than some one else's. Music wasn't made to be put in a box and fucking analyzed to DEATH. People like you are FUCKING RUINING MUSIC FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!
6XstringXsamurai 11 months ago 9
@guitgrinder In every day talk, I think metal incorporating a considerable amount of time signature changes gets to be called progressive. This really was progressive back in the ninties I guess, or not at all since most classical music is really fucked up time signature-wise. Well my point is, the using of odd time signatures gave the genre it's name, which probably will stick with it.
Chefen92 11 months ago
@guitgrinder
ofcourse you can!!!!! just follow different scales like phrygian,blues minor and some nice off-beats...you're done!!! nevertheless you can create your own stuff and call it progressive...like funky-jazz stuff that bands like rush prefer....it's the best genre in the world!!!!!SO FREE!!!!! :P
altinkond 10 months ago
@guitgrinder which begs the question...what is metal?...and how far can it be pushed...imo its not so much about bringing in outside influences from other forms of music...but rather expanding what can be considered "metal"...like sabbath sounded one way...then 10 12 yrs later...metallica expands the same style...but without bringing any other outside influence...see?...i mean "seek and destroy"..is not much different than old sabbath...but boundarie were pushed ..thus "progression"
arkee71 8 months ago
@arkee71 I have a counter-question that will perhaps answer your question: what you'll get if you remove the distortion from the sabbath, metallica, etc.? Then dress those guys up in office suits and get them the auditory with icecream and "Hello Kitty".
VinniePaah 4 months ago
@VinniePaah You'd get a lot of palm muting on the clean channel, which typically doesn't sound very good. The key to progress is to make advancements. How much progress is made during the course of "Iron Man"? If the song never changes, does it ever really progress?
nationalgord 4 months ago
@arkee71 so your calling metallica progressive? theres a difference between bands who are considered prog., and bands who helped progress a genre.
CrackedStyle 4 months ago
@guitgrinder nah I think you misunderstand the meaning of "progressive". Theres loads of metal in fact probably the majority of metal incorporates other elements into it. That doesn't make it progressive.
utmax85 7 months ago
@guitgrinder No, that's only part of what "Progressive" means. The other part is common usage of odd time signiatures, highly technical playing on all instruments, etc. Usually, progressive players are sound in Music Theory.
BruceNorris2112 4 months ago
@guitgrinder Exactly , like Symphony X and Kansas
MiasmaClouds 4 months ago
@guitgrinder Yup, but there's another way of looking at prog metal. It's lots of spacious (usually long) riffs coming one after another, with many wierd and unusual time signatures, taking the listener on an epic journey in mind of a landscape. It doesn't have to be anything new.
JEKAZOL 1 month ago
@guitgrinder Technically what you've defined is closer to Avant garde , but Progressive music generally does try to be different and experiment a bit. However , although you are correct , there is another definition of progressive music which defines it as involving strange timings , time signatures and accenting notes that sound 'out of place' , etc. Theres a few definitons i suppose ; you are correct , but this video is regarding the other definition.
muntificator 3 weeks ago
@guitgrinder no. the point is to progress. change, alternate, progress. plus it also stemmed from jazz which typically strays from 4/4. its supposed to be complicated and new and always progressing. adding different genres isn't necessary to be new as fucking pop culture wants us to believe, and sometimes it ruins a good thing
RichardIsAlive 2 weeks ago
Hot about just listening to Dream Theater....
Shawnium101 1 year ago 120
@Shawnium101 Or Tool.
metalfreak4677 5 months ago
@metalfreak4677 Or just Tool instead DT =P
CurtisScofield 2 months ago
a bit to much distortion in my opinion. I would cut back on it.....
Daver869 1 year ago 4
Progressive metal is much more complex than this simple scale. Dream Theater, Symphony X and Opeth are great bands that are different in their approach to music and sound yet united under the banner of "progressive metal"
jsem94 1 year ago 5
so... all the notes in this riff are in the phrygian mode? someone who knows say yes plz
Wiltonibanez 1 year ago
@Wiltonibanez read the description...
dragonman86 1 year ago
@Wiltonibanez they are within that
falco1407 1 year ago
making music progressive is like applying an integral to an already insanely complex function. <-analogy for the math nerds
CorelliaSD 1 year ago
...So basically, you have to be god?
kingdomhearts227 1 year ago
Good lesson, but I cant find the tab in ur site for this one. Help me. plz.
DarthStand 1 year ago
LTD Viper FTW!
BiollanteSpawn 1 year ago
the whole idea of progressive music is that it progresses through so many different structures, moods, keys, styles etc. You CANNOT teach it, it is what it is
leetheshredder 1 year ago 4
@WEIMA112 yesss! that band is fucking flawless.
applehat32 1 year ago
This is the first time I see a guy that plays metal and know what he is doing LOL
FunkMasterSteez 1 year ago
"16th note triplet idea" = pull off
Aymo111 1 year ago
OOO Is that the Viper? Because if it is thats the next guitar i wanted to get or an Iceman.
LaughCannon 1 year ago
Are those orange tone nobs stock on the LTD Viper?
MirorsAndObfuscation 1 year ago
ok how do you get ur guitar to have tht much distortion? im trying soo hard but cant. i wanna make a screamo band. I need a more high gain sound. i gotta epiphone les paul and and a marshall mg100dfx. ANY HELP?
sammyboy980 1 year ago
@sammyboy980 getting a distortion pedal would be the easiest way
ich0bin0laden 1 year ago
@sammyboy980 get a mesa boogie anp. lol kidding, but get an overdrive pedal. i would suggest the Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9
TDWPbassistAILD 1 year ago
@sammyboy980 i think hes using pedals that give extra distortion
FuerzaDeNoche 1 year ago
Fuck music theory it pisses me off.
Megadedly 1 year ago
@Megadedly yeah, me too. i just play.
DDDekost 1 year ago
@DDDekost But you don't know what you're playing. Music theory is really important.
BurglaryoftheSenses 1 year ago
what a fuckin hack, he wouldnt know metal if it fucked him in the ass
woteverz123 1 year ago
metal in standard < metal in DROP A!
bassistofawsomeness 1 year ago
well gee. i figured born of osiris was progressive metal. :)
hasignedon 1 year ago
@hasignedon Aren't they Technical Deathcore?
xXiloveizzyXx13 1 year ago
@xXiloveizzyXx13 haha idk. maybe but theyre pretty progressive.
hasignedon 1 year ago
i have the same guitar esp ltd viper
eugeniotox 1 year ago
Trying to teach progressivism in music.. LOL.
Notespompon 1 year ago 2
you don't know what youre talking about, progressive tones comes from the mind!
satjathamma 1 year ago
killer tone ... just brickshitting awesomeness
iBinDaLugge 1 year ago
that is a killer riff
ry4nk87 1 year ago
thanks for the insight
ignoramusOO 1 year ago
nice
loganlee26 1 year ago
He gets right to rthe point!!! No long verba;l intro
Hes the best so far
Thnx!!!!
ThePRIMEMINISTRY 1 year ago
could have done with some triple picking to make it cooler but not bad. Distortion sound is pretty bad, sounds like one of those fab distortion pedals plugged into a big transistor amp
guitarshredking 1 year ago
que porcaria.
tretui789 1 year ago
mongolian progressive
pszemopawlak 1 year ago
this riff needs to be played way way way faster imo
GiftedNq 1 year ago
i never new there was a g# in E phrygian is'nt it a form of c major.
stereoscopicify 1 year ago
@stereoscopicify
There isn't in the standard E phrygian, but a phrygian dominant has a major 3rd instead of the minor 3rd. Remember, E phrygian has a flat 2nd, 3rd, 6th and 7th (compared to E ionian or Major).E maj has a G#, E Phryg usually flattens this to a G, so you're just re-sharpening it. As it has a major 3rd and a flat 7th, it is called a 'dominant' phrygian mode.Some might refer to it as a major phrygian scale, but this isn't strictly true, as the flat 7th gives it the dominant feel.
dutypaidrock 1 year ago
@dutypaidrock
Ok Michael Angelo Batio jr.
hatepooper69 1 year ago
@dutypaidrock Ok Michael Angelo Batio jr.
hatepooper69 1 year ago
is that the baritone version xD i got the same xD
ESPltdvb400 1 year ago
opeth <3
ihasanopinion 1 year ago
its called progressive because its doing something new. thats why progressive metal can be so vastly different
SeanathenII 1 year ago
weißt du wer schwul ist? du ! :D
0shitdisconnected0 1 year ago
korn tune to drop A sometimes, these songs dont sound particularly more heavy than say avenged sevenfold who are in drop d
the1trueseed 1 year ago
wow sounds like Orphaned Land ^^
HangOverGotOver 1 year ago
ok buddy, listen to thirteen by recon and tell me that tuning does not give a heavy sound
corruptedxsilence 1 year ago
a good tuning for progressive its between Db and Eb because of the low- heavy sound it gives and the bend
elmingodotcom 1 year ago
its called drop D
joesatriani1200rulez 1 year ago
@joesatriani1200rulez
oh no, i was referring to all the tunings between Db and Eb, which means Db, D, and Eb, also drop d and drop c
elmingodotcom 1 year ago
oh ok just a misunderstanding :D
joesatriani1200rulez 1 year ago
@elmingodotcom Tunings do not give a heavy sound.
Intotheorchard 1 year ago
@Intotheorchard uuuh yeah they do. dipshit
yaxowx 1 year ago
@yaxowx Fail. You have to be retarded to believe that.
Intotheorchard 1 year ago
@Intotheorchard i understand what you mean when you say that lower tunings don't give a heavy sound but in a lot of cases it does. i guess you kinda have to define "heavy"
yaxowx 1 year ago
@yaxowx Heavy and low are not the same thing. Giving a lower pitch does not make something heavy. The heavy sound is achieved through dynamics and rhythmic phrasing. This is why bands that play in standard tuning can sound just as heavy as a band that tunes down to G.
Intotheorchard 1 year ago
@Intotheorchard Like Winds of Plague! Haha. When I heard of a deathcore band that played in standard, it kind of blew my mind.
usedtohatecellphones 1 year ago
@Intotheorchard if you have a very low downtuned guitar and you make heavy riffs, there will be a difference and it will sound more ´´heavy´´, but the riffs and the arrangement makes the real ´´heavy´´ stuff, like the bass, and the drums
elmingodotcom 1 year ago
What tuning is this? awesome riff man!
NovembersDooom 1 year ago
its regular tuning! he's using phrygian dominant , a usual scale used in Metal
joesatriani1200rulez 1 year ago
this is why i hate progressive metal but i love how andrew knows it i can imagine him rocking out hardcore lol
guys a legdend
jcoldham1 1 year ago
thats a pretty mint riff
theflyingmadcap 1 year ago
i think the bigghest part of progressive is not fitting in any standarts at all
so you cant learn it
grindcord 1 year ago
I learned some metal to impress the kids at the local guitar shop. They asked me to leave.
SemiTall 2 years ago 217
Hahaha, i love it!
Nihility000 1 year ago
To hell with that shop then.
olives639 1 year ago
@SemiTall that's because everyone does it. unfortunately too many people crank up the distortion and just play licks they've learned over and over in different keys, they don't do their own stuff
ironwolg 1 year ago 2
lol! at guitar center?
blank9870 1 year ago
@SemiTall blew there minds to much ;)?
ISN1P3DI 1 year ago
@SemiTall hahahahaha
ant1ph0n 1 year ago
@SemiTall
then youll have to practice a lot to make it sound great :D
phronesys 1 year ago
@SemiTall either the kids were little fags, or you sucked.
SASPython 1 year ago
@SemiTall ahahaah....
14MERGE 1 year ago
@SemiTall XD!!! same thing for me with the drums :P
shadowx7og 1 year ago
@SemiTall how about u learn some music instead
MrClaptonstrat 1 year ago
@SemiTall those kids dont know music
fretshr3dder 1 year ago
3 Doors Down is the hardest rock I can take, anything harder just gets lame.
sangolt88 2 years ago
@sangolt88 Well that's your personal preference. "Lame" is a subjective term.
usedtohatecellphones 1 year ago
kinda of a lame riff
motleycrue24 2 years ago
Awful sound.
m4ssee 2 years ago
I don't think Progressive Metal can really be explained in the way it is developed or structured, it's always different and all the different artists under the genre work differently to the next. That's what makes it great!
themanwins 2 years ago 115
So true
sjulen 2 years ago
@themanwins I really dont htink it is explained well at all in this video, prog-metal is a thinking mans music, simple by no means
prognosis77 1 year ago
@themanwins yea i always use to be confused like wtf is progressive some kid gave me all these so called prog bands but they sounded similar and i was like wtf? if ur progressive doesnt that mean ur progressing something? if these guys sound the same they cant be progressive..
tanvo93 1 year ago 3
@tanvo93 Progressive metal is rather a new genre compared to others and its largely underground. And its only starting to expand because its only just starting to gain interest, that's usually why most Prog metal bands either sound like one of 3 bands Dream Theater, Fates Warning Or Queensyche ... Its like when Nu-metal started to appear, the first generation of bands to the genre all sounded identical. You understand?
TheRandomBassist 1 year ago
@TheRandomBassist it makes sence but what about 90's music bands like Korn deftones rage against the machine tool..those bands are heavy bands dont sound identical at all..also gojira and tool are considered to be progressive they sound nothing like dreath theater and stuff..i think progressive should be what their name suggest they are creative genre pushing bands they dont stick within a genre..
tanvo93 1 year ago
@tanvo93 hmm i think progressive metal is more to time signature changes in one song.
deathoctober 1 year ago
@deathoctober no dude..think about the word progressive..its like progressing its suppose to be progressing a genre in a sence or pushing a genre..so its a way of creativity..so ur just trying to make some creative music that happens to be metal..the time signatures are just one way to show creativity..but when alot of people wright music they dont think time signatures it just happens that the parts are technical through creativity "creativity"!!! hahahaa
tanvo93 1 year ago
E phrygian dominant/ A harmonic really gets to me sounds so full of flavor im gonna go watch desperado now
greedlz 2 years ago
Makes me think of flamingo in the andalusian summernights. E phrygian has that effekt on me. Olé!
MrBminor7 1 year ago
Damn dude, this is one amazing riff.
mudbone80 2 years ago
Prog Metal, mmmm, my favorite!
VexylMusic 2 years ago
my favorite gender. Thanks!
xX0Jota0Xx 2 years ago
Gender?
Don't you mean "genre?"
JAustinMunn 2 years ago
yesss i'm sorry sometimes languages get mixed up.
genre and gender are the same word in spanish
xX0Jota0Xx 2 years ago
jajajja
si es cierto xD
Caduenas 2 years ago
@xX0Jota0Xx
what?
ialvarez357 2 years ago
i just said gender instead of genre
xX0Jota0Xx 2 years ago
How is genre and gender the same in spanish?
ialvarez357 2 years ago
the word is "género" which works for both musical genres and gender as in men and woman
xX0Jota0Xx 2 years ago
Oh, please for the love of God do some thrahs in there.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
@KissMeImPunk
thrash is badass but it isnt very "musical" just shredding and chuggs...i would like to see this guy do thrash though lol.
i luv his vids!
ialvarez357 2 years ago
Apparently you don't know thrash at all, or much of it. Look up bands like Artillery, Hexen, Watchtower and the like. You'll be very surprised at how technical thrash can be.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
@KissMeImPunk
musicianship is not the same as technicality...and for metal more often than not you need technicality.
ialvarez357 2 years ago
Just look those bands up.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
Wintersun. End of argument.
DantonTheWerewolf 2 years ago
Watchtower, nuff said.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago 2
nice! i like this! i love all music but metal and all its subgenres are awesome!
najtrows 2 years ago 6
your amazing, got hold on all genres
chrisfehnftw 2 years ago 3
Awesome riff! Great lesson Andrew, could you do more lessons on Progressive Rock, particularly late 80's early 90's Progressive Metal?
Jartny 2 years ago 3
It's so cool watching you play metal man!
MynZnusz 2 years ago 6
the lesson was excellent but I don't like the sound of that riff
DariusDaGreat86 2 years ago