Thank You! I actually agree with you about matter, not existing. I wrote about this revelation--discovery in my book, 9 years ago (now being re-edited). I am a pioneer in the field of "Spiritual Evolution". Within the "environment" provided by the "Spiritual Principle for Graceful, Spontaneous Evolution" a new and nourishing ground of Consciousness ~ becomes manifest, experientially ~ a ground in the Spiritual Nature, of Nature. See: "GracefulEvolution" on the web.
Execellent & insightful. Why is it people seem to lean to one extreme or the other? James & a few of his viewers seem to have a higher degree of insight into the true nature of consciousness. civilization as a whole needs to learn to integrate both science and mysticism.They are two halfs of one whole.We need to transcend this linear way of thinking. life is cyclical.
I dont get you you demonstrate evolution is wrong? Comparing chapters to evolutionary lineages is a false comparison. Chapters dont evolve as they dont fit the critera for what CAN evolve. You must be able to reproduce, mutate, and undergo natural selection (ie be competition for survival) How does a chapter fit this critera?
I've spent my life in the pursuit of the knowledge of God. I know for a fact there is a creator intelligence behind manifestation. What name we give it is immaterial in the eyes of that force as it is not driven by Ego in the way human forms are.
Something has occured to me while reposed here at the computer!
The truth of what we truly are and our destiny as humans Will in no way be allowed to be known in full right now.
What we thimk we know is all a distortion created by an energy that is stalking us and this benefits the Nagual.
I will bet on it!
The ultimate truth would never make the internet or any other media at the moment.The Nagual knows what it is doing and uses the Gate Keepers to train us and make us worthy of knowing.
James, if in our perception of the cosmos, there exists life forms on other planets capable of observing the same universe we perceive, would they actually experience the same reality as we do, or have their own perception of reality based on different expectations?
But the idea of convergence in evolution suggests that alien intelligent life would be eerily similar to that on planet earth. In other words, they too would have to obey the same natural laws as we do. If alien life were able to peer into the universe using technology, then surely they would have some grasp of how light behaves. In this sense, their reality would be almost identical to our reality, even though we have no knowledge of their existence.
What I'm saying is that all life in this universe would have to obey the same physical laws as we do, such as gravity, electro-magnetism, strong and weak nuclear force. In addition, light would behave exactly the same on this planet as on any other planet, causing what we see as the universe to be exactly what other intelligent life would see relative to their position in the cosmos if they possessed technology to do so. Their universal reality would be almost identical to our universal reality.
'Physically' speaking , you are correct...psychologically , however ,our subjective beliefs alter our experience...Some things need to be believed to be 'seen' !
Are you are saying that if life exists elsewhere, there could be at least two independent physiological psychological experiences, especially related to supernatural ideas? If that is true, either or both of these beliefs could be correct, or both of them could be wrong - they are subjective, like you said. In this case, why are you so confident in your own subjective beliefs, when others could possibly exist? Would it be wise to disregard 'beliefs' and replace it with curiosity instead?
There are transcendental realities ; however all manifest realities are quite 'plastic' and molded by the intents,beliefs and expectetions of the participator...
This didn't really answer my question, but I'll bite anyway. You are saying that there are many transcendental realities, and I can certainly understand various transcendental realities in the minds of individuals, which raises the question of merit concerning your own belief. However, when it comes to manifest reality - or reality as it is seen with the eye - I don't understand how it could be different elsewhere given the facts in some of my previous comments about natural forces and light.
Basically I'm trying to say that truthfully believing in a supernatural reality probably isn't the best option given our vast physical limitations. Instead, it might serve you better to have a strong inherent curiosity and eagerness to learn and question reality, but never truly believe in anything that cannot be physically demonstrated; until death, perhaps. I'm 21, by the way, and looking forward to naturally dying. It could be a fun ride..
James, please respond to my questions! Gurdjieff was wise, but not everything can be proved such as evolution, dark matter, dark energy, black holes, the Big Bang, and God. Our universe seems to be based on at least two opposing natural laws (yin/yang, if you will): physics and quantum mechanics. Indeed, there might be an opposite for everything that exists. That doesn't mean we should stop looking for answers. No, quite the contrary. But we need to be humble in our expectations and ability.
For the record, I do suspect the universe is alive and everything is made of tiny bits of folded or trapped living energy. Sorry for the double posts, but the limited character count is really annoying when discussing philosophical matters.
One should remain present-Here and Now- this is the meaning of Mu-shin or Hishyro consciousness...at the same time one should be 'open' to impuses and intuitions that flow to us from your 'inner' self which is the true self-the 'higher' self
No doubt we must be open to intuition and impulses, but perhaps our complete consciousness or higher self is severely limited - or trapped - by our physical existence and the 3+1 dimensions we experience every moment. This is why I stated that 'believing' is not the best option because clearly, what we see and experience with our physical body is not all that actually exists. Is our 3D universe closed? Do you think that there is more than 1 universe that are part of a larger, living... thing?
Yes I understand what he is saying. But how can we know anything about a non-physical reality given our physical limitations? Even in physical reality, we have limitations. It is a stretch to believe one knows the truth about the secrets of existence. Everything we can know is within our mind which is confined to this planet or at the very most, this universe. There could be more than one universe which would limit our understanding even further.
You are right. I'm not sure we can ever definitively know anything about a non-physical reality, unless we are able to definitively inhabit that nonphysical reality and conduct experiments from within it.
Having said that, to me, when I think about the beginning of the universe and how it is that time can even have a beginning, when I think about the paradoxes of quantum physics, when I think about the meaning of existence itself - my intuition says that a non-physical reality exists and perhaps subsumes the physical.
Sorry ,wasn't ignoring your Qs...Even with physical limitations ,we must begin where we are and with the 'material' at hand. The greater knowledge and 'reach' of our 'inner' self is available to us via our intuition and benign intrusive impulses as well as during the deepest levels of sleep when we expand beyond our physical bodies and experience direct comprehension from higher levels of our soul...I believe the many universes are interconnecting and consist of gestalts of consciousness
I can see where both of you are coming from, and I agree to an extent. However, even our dreams exist only in the confines of our physical mind and have the exact limitations as our consciousness, albeit in a different manner. My intuition tells me that there exists a reality beyond any of our imaginations - beyond knowing, dreaming - and only in death, when our consciousness is finally set free, might these secrets reveal themselves. Then we can say we 'know' or 'believe.'
Excellent comment ; however I don't agree that our dreams exist "only in the confines of our physical mind" The 'physically 'experienced dreams are the tracings of larger experienced non-physical events in which your non-physical 'inner self' is involved like the layers of an onion these 'master' events are experienced at all levels of the Self w ith the brain recording only the most physically oriented portions
I see. Maybe that's why dreams are so weird and alien. Dreams might be unaffected glimpses of a non-physical reality, given their origin: our earthly body and mind. That is what I meant by confined by physicality. They're not the entire picture. Like our conscious perception of physical reality, dreams do not sufficiently encompass the whole meaning or existence of an immaterial reality, but offer only a small window to ultimate conscious freedom and reality. Dreams are quite limited, contained.
Do you think there is a God or Gods, of sorts? If so, would that God judge, reward, or punish its creations? My intuition tells me there is a sort of 'creator' but unlike any God any living thing could ever comprehend or speculate, ever. And I don't think it would have any use for such human ideas like judging, rewarding, and punishing. It would just simply create, love, and set free its makings.
i agree if you are saying that space and time dont exist. its just an illusion.the world was not created a billions years ago but right now.every sec it is created.we are the past the present and the future.
Yes there absolutely is evidence that evolution is a part of our reality, but the thing that you're over looking is that the type of evolution that we see in life continues to be proven over and over to be genetically designed into the code.
So yes, this type of "evolving" does occur, but it's not mutations, it's design, and there are no missing links between any species to this day!
...so I don't see why you bother even giving it credence.
1- Both right and both wrong... it's a dangerous territory I have personally witnessed. From that perspective you risk loosing touch with the people who are anchored in their beliefs (right or wrong). Being anchored is not a bad thing as it is a place of great stability.
2- The point you seem to be evading is that reality is actually a concept of our mind. There. Ive said it. Its not real; its more like a long dream. Our ideas anchor us in our reality and define what we perceive and Im being literal here. Its something you have to experience for yourself. So the effect is that your beliefs are constantly proven to you by the echoes of your reality.
The concept makes god, aliens, evolution, everything, both reality and fiction at the same time.
U.F.O.s, aliens ('Physicals'),etc. still all deal with the 'outside' reality.That's not where the 'action' is! The 'outside'or 'manifest' passion plays within which we experience lives and play our roles represents the external 'projection' of a much vaster 'inner'reality.
I believe that we live in a set of projections that is the amalgamation of our inner hopes and fears.We share those to some degree with others that have the same/similar "delusions".We have tools that we use to cope with the fears and the unknown.Such tools may be religion or science and basic daily routine.That is why, like you, I believe no one should force anyone to abide by their beliefs.Given that all is illusion.Better use the illusion that better suits you.But majority rules in the end :(
James- I was wondering if you have delved into The Bible Code (hidden, encoded foretellings in the first 5 books of the Bible) Have you? Many of the most admired mathmeticians/statisticians in the world say it is real and absolutely beyond rebuff. I find it to be astonishing. Do you have an opinion on this most incredible and controversial subject? thanks! Andrew
Andrew,I am likewise intriqued by the Bible Code not sure ,yet,what to make of it.I will tell you,though, that there have been many 'ancient' truths hidden in diverse places to be discovered at the 'right' time in human history!
Do you mean that "right and wrong" are two words which limits our ability to think freely? That's how I interpret this clip.
Maybe We've been told from childhood that there only exists right or wrong. Good or bad. Black or white. And on top of that, we've been learning a handicapped languge which limits us from expressing our true selves.
I am trying to get people to wake up and think for themselves and to realize that there is more to this thing we call 'our life' than what we have been told!
But what does that have to do with evolution? You obviously don't want to talk about biochemistry, genetics, inheritance and all that stuff, and that's all that there is to biology; but when you use the word "life", what you mean is not metabolically active self-replicators.
Happy to talk about any related issue-But your not understanding what I am saying.Life is not limited to "metabolically active self-replicators" Life includes the non-physical creators of 'your' "replicators"
See? As I said, when you say "life", you don't mean what biologists mean when they say "life". Why do you then claim to be talking about evolution, if you're about biology?
I seriously don't get what you're aiming at with this series. While a kind of idealistic background in which the materialistic universe exists is a possibility, it's not one that is open to measurement and repeatable observations, so it has nothing to do with science. Why drag the theory of evolution into this in the first place? What does metaphysics have to do with the frequency of alleles in populations of living beings?
Thank You! I actually agree with you about matter, not existing. I wrote about this revelation--discovery in my book, 9 years ago (now being re-edited). I am a pioneer in the field of "Spiritual Evolution". Within the "environment" provided by the "Spiritual Principle for Graceful, Spontaneous Evolution" a new and nourishing ground of Consciousness ~ becomes manifest, experientially ~ a ground in the Spiritual Nature, of Nature. See: "GracefulEvolution" on the web.
Shaz8888Asland 1 year ago
Execellent & insightful. Why is it people seem to lean to one extreme or the other? James & a few of his viewers seem to have a higher degree of insight into the true nature of consciousness. civilization as a whole needs to learn to integrate both science and mysticism.They are two halfs of one whole.We need to transcend this linear way of thinking. life is cyclical.
vgraham44 1 year ago
I dont get you you demonstrate evolution is wrong? Comparing chapters to evolutionary lineages is a false comparison. Chapters dont evolve as they dont fit the critera for what CAN evolve. You must be able to reproduce, mutate, and undergo natural selection (ie be competition for survival) How does a chapter fit this critera?
boorens18 2 years ago
For this reason the Gate Keepers have my full respect and i will no longer bother You Tube or any other outlet with my ideas.
thesonofmetallica123 2 years ago
you should look more into this idea that God does exist and that it is logical to accept his existence
Dwrancho144 2 years ago
I've spent my life in the pursuit of the knowledge of God. I know for a fact there is a creator intelligence behind manifestation. What name we give it is immaterial in the eyes of that force as it is not driven by Ego in the way human forms are.
thesonofmetallica123 2 years ago
Something has occured to me while reposed here at the computer!
The truth of what we truly are and our destiny as humans Will in no way be allowed to be known in full right now.
What we thimk we know is all a distortion created by an energy that is stalking us and this benefits the Nagual.
I will bet on it!
The ultimate truth would never make the internet or any other media at the moment.The Nagual knows what it is doing and uses the Gate Keepers to train us and make us worthy of knowing.
thesonofmetallica123 2 years ago
James, if in our perception of the cosmos, there exists life forms on other planets capable of observing the same universe we perceive, would they actually experience the same reality as we do, or have their own perception of reality based on different expectations?
xkillernovax 2 years ago
They would perceive a version in accordance with their own belief and societal system
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
But the idea of convergence in evolution suggests that alien intelligent life would be eerily similar to that on planet earth. In other words, they too would have to obey the same natural laws as we do. If alien life were able to peer into the universe using technology, then surely they would have some grasp of how light behaves. In this sense, their reality would be almost identical to our reality, even though we have no knowledge of their existence.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
Generaly yes ;however even among humans the life experience varies greatly
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
What I'm saying is that all life in this universe would have to obey the same physical laws as we do, such as gravity, electro-magnetism, strong and weak nuclear force. In addition, light would behave exactly the same on this planet as on any other planet, causing what we see as the universe to be exactly what other intelligent life would see relative to their position in the cosmos if they possessed technology to do so. Their universal reality would be almost identical to our universal reality.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
'Physically' speaking , you are correct...psychologically , however ,our subjective beliefs alter our experience...Some things need to be believed to be 'seen' !
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Are you are saying that if life exists elsewhere, there could be at least two independent physiological psychological experiences, especially related to supernatural ideas? If that is true, either or both of these beliefs could be correct, or both of them could be wrong - they are subjective, like you said. In this case, why are you so confident in your own subjective beliefs, when others could possibly exist? Would it be wise to disregard 'beliefs' and replace it with curiosity instead?
xkillernovax 2 years ago
There are transcendental realities ; however all manifest realities are quite 'plastic' and molded by the intents,beliefs and expectetions of the participator...
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
This didn't really answer my question, but I'll bite anyway. You are saying that there are many transcendental realities, and I can certainly understand various transcendental realities in the minds of individuals, which raises the question of merit concerning your own belief. However, when it comes to manifest reality - or reality as it is seen with the eye - I don't understand how it could be different elsewhere given the facts in some of my previous comments about natural forces and light.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
Basically I'm trying to say that truthfully believing in a supernatural reality probably isn't the best option given our vast physical limitations. Instead, it might serve you better to have a strong inherent curiosity and eagerness to learn and question reality, but never truly believe in anything that cannot be physically demonstrated; until death, perhaps. I'm 21, by the way, and looking forward to naturally dying. It could be a fun ride..
xkillernovax 2 years ago
Gurdjieff said to question everything and make everything be proved
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
James, please respond to my questions! Gurdjieff was wise, but not everything can be proved such as evolution, dark matter, dark energy, black holes, the Big Bang, and God. Our universe seems to be based on at least two opposing natural laws (yin/yang, if you will): physics and quantum mechanics. Indeed, there might be an opposite for everything that exists. That doesn't mean we should stop looking for answers. No, quite the contrary. But we need to be humble in our expectations and ability.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
For the record, I do suspect the universe is alive and everything is made of tiny bits of folded or trapped living energy. Sorry for the double posts, but the limited character count is really annoying when discussing philosophical matters.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
One should remain present-Here and Now- this is the meaning of Mu-shin or Hishyro consciousness...at the same time one should be 'open' to impuses and intuitions that flow to us from your 'inner' self which is the true self-the 'higher' self
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
No doubt we must be open to intuition and impulses, but perhaps our complete consciousness or higher self is severely limited - or trapped - by our physical existence and the 3+1 dimensions we experience every moment. This is why I stated that 'believing' is not the best option because clearly, what we see and experience with our physical body is not all that actually exists. Is our 3D universe closed? Do you think that there is more than 1 universe that are part of a larger, living... thing?
xkillernovax 2 years ago
We must work to explore/expand our awareness and own subjective states so as to 'wake up' to our greatest potential self-hood
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Why aren't you at least attempting to answer my questions...
xkillernovax 2 years ago
I think he is saying we need to learn to be more aware in order to access the non-physical reality wrapping the physical universe.
MrRubato 2 years ago
Yes I understand what he is saying. But how can we know anything about a non-physical reality given our physical limitations? Even in physical reality, we have limitations. It is a stretch to believe one knows the truth about the secrets of existence. Everything we can know is within our mind which is confined to this planet or at the very most, this universe. There could be more than one universe which would limit our understanding even further.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
You are right. I'm not sure we can ever definitively know anything about a non-physical reality, unless we are able to definitively inhabit that nonphysical reality and conduct experiments from within it.
MrRubato 2 years ago
Having said that, to me, when I think about the beginning of the universe and how it is that time can even have a beginning, when I think about the paradoxes of quantum physics, when I think about the meaning of existence itself - my intuition says that a non-physical reality exists and perhaps subsumes the physical.
MrRubato 2 years ago
Excellent dialogue...my intuition tells me the same
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Sorry ,wasn't ignoring your Qs...Even with physical limitations ,we must begin where we are and with the 'material' at hand. The greater knowledge and 'reach' of our 'inner' self is available to us via our intuition and benign intrusive impulses as well as during the deepest levels of sleep when we expand beyond our physical bodies and experience direct comprehension from higher levels of our soul...I believe the many universes are interconnecting and consist of gestalts of consciousness
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I can see where both of you are coming from, and I agree to an extent. However, even our dreams exist only in the confines of our physical mind and have the exact limitations as our consciousness, albeit in a different manner. My intuition tells me that there exists a reality beyond any of our imaginations - beyond knowing, dreaming - and only in death, when our consciousness is finally set free, might these secrets reveal themselves. Then we can say we 'know' or 'believe.'
xkillernovax 2 years ago
Excellent comment ; however I don't agree that our dreams exist "only in the confines of our physical mind" The 'physically 'experienced dreams are the tracings of larger experienced non-physical events in which your non-physical 'inner self' is involved like the layers of an onion these 'master' events are experienced at all levels of the Self w ith the brain recording only the most physically oriented portions
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I see. Maybe that's why dreams are so weird and alien. Dreams might be unaffected glimpses of a non-physical reality, given their origin: our earthly body and mind. That is what I meant by confined by physicality. They're not the entire picture. Like our conscious perception of physical reality, dreams do not sufficiently encompass the whole meaning or existence of an immaterial reality, but offer only a small window to ultimate conscious freedom and reality. Dreams are quite limited, contained.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
Do you think there is a God or Gods, of sorts? If so, would that God judge, reward, or punish its creations? My intuition tells me there is a sort of 'creator' but unlike any God any living thing could ever comprehend or speculate, ever. And I don't think it would have any use for such human ideas like judging, rewarding, and punishing. It would just simply create, love, and set free its makings.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
I believe God exists and is the source of our souls and our consciousness...I am in agreement with your comment about judgeing etc.
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
Thanks, this was a pleasant conversation.
xkillernovax 2 years ago
i agree ithink evolution is part of GOD's plan
hanghang71 2 years ago
Do you believe your ideas represent a truth or reality or just a possibility for the truth?
If you think they are truth what makes you believe them to be fact?
JaylaScousa 3 years ago
My ideas are a way of 'viewing' reality that is consistant with the writings and teachings of many masters through the ages
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Wondering if you have ever read any of G. Schroeder's work? (Science of God, Hidden face of God, etc...) and if you have, what do you think?
cagefite007 2 years ago
Have not,but thanks .
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
i agree if you are saying that space and time dont exist. its just an illusion.the world was not created a billions years ago but right now.every sec it is created.we are the past the present and the future.
youngcatlaflare 2 years ago
You are exactly right
JamesJTraitz 2 years ago
I was with you all the way until this video.
Yes there absolutely is evidence that evolution is a part of our reality, but the thing that you're over looking is that the type of evolution that we see in life continues to be proven over and over to be genetically designed into the code.
So yes, this type of "evolving" does occur, but it's not mutations, it's design, and there are no missing links between any species to this day!
...so I don't see why you bother even giving it credence.
vudumojo 3 years ago
heres a suggestion, talk faster and get to the point
rikestard 3 years ago
Thankyou for your suggestion
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
lol
OpenMind00 3 years ago
1- Both right and both wrong... it's a dangerous territory I have personally witnessed. From that perspective you risk loosing touch with the people who are anchored in their beliefs (right or wrong). Being anchored is not a bad thing as it is a place of great stability.
iamufreak 3 years ago
2- The point you seem to be evading is that reality is actually a concept of our mind. There. Ive said it. Its not real; its more like a long dream. Our ideas anchor us in our reality and define what we perceive and Im being literal here. Its something you have to experience for yourself. So the effect is that your beliefs are constantly proven to you by the echoes of your reality.
The concept makes god, aliens, evolution, everything, both reality and fiction at the same time.
iamufreak 3 years ago
3- The concept of reality bubbles comes to mind
iamufreak 3 years ago
U.F.O.s, aliens ('Physicals'),etc. still all deal with the 'outside' reality.That's not where the 'action' is! The 'outside'or 'manifest' passion plays within which we experience lives and play our roles represents the external 'projection' of a much vaster 'inner'reality.
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
I believe that we live in a set of projections that is the amalgamation of our inner hopes and fears.We share those to some degree with others that have the same/similar "delusions".We have tools that we use to cope with the fears and the unknown.Such tools may be religion or science and basic daily routine.That is why, like you, I believe no one should force anyone to abide by their beliefs.Given that all is illusion.Better use the illusion that better suits you.But majority rules in the end :(
iamufreak 3 years ago
James- I was wondering if you have delved into The Bible Code (hidden, encoded foretellings in the first 5 books of the Bible) Have you? Many of the most admired mathmeticians/statisticians in the world say it is real and absolutely beyond rebuff. I find it to be astonishing. Do you have an opinion on this most incredible and controversial subject? thanks! Andrew
TadRapidly 3 years ago
Andrew,I am likewise intriqued by the Bible Code not sure ,yet,what to make of it.I will tell you,though, that there have been many 'ancient' truths hidden in diverse places to be discovered at the 'right' time in human history!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Do you mean that "right and wrong" are two words which limits our ability to think freely? That's how I interpret this clip.
Maybe We've been told from childhood that there only exists right or wrong. Good or bad. Black or white. And on top of that, we've been learning a handicapped languge which limits us from expressing our true selves.
apnisse 3 years ago
Not exactly.What I am addressing is the 'either/or' or 'true/false' dichotomy.There are realities beyond this dichotomy
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
good luck in explaining this to the masses! Still, a few people will gain solace in connecting with your efforts.
-Michael
mtingle777 3 years ago
"n an analogy with a book James J. Traitz shows that Evolution and Creationism are both right and both wrong."
It is impossible for evolution to be "wrong:" it makes no sense at all to say any natural phenomena is "wrong."
Desertphile 3 years ago
I am trying to get people to wake up and think for themselves and to realize that there is more to this thing we call 'our life' than what we have been told!
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
Like what?
And told by whom?
paranoidnpanicking 3 years ago
But what does that have to do with evolution? You obviously don't want to talk about biochemistry, genetics, inheritance and all that stuff, and that's all that there is to biology; but when you use the word "life", what you mean is not metabolically active self-replicators.
garouHH 3 years ago
Happy to talk about any related issue-But your not understanding what I am saying.Life is not limited to "metabolically active self-replicators" Life includes the non-physical creators of 'your' "replicators"
JamesJTraitz 3 years ago
See? As I said, when you say "life", you don't mean what biologists mean when they say "life". Why do you then claim to be talking about evolution, if you're about biology?
garouHH 3 years ago
I seriously don't get what you're aiming at with this series. While a kind of idealistic background in which the materialistic universe exists is a possibility, it's not one that is open to measurement and repeatable observations, so it has nothing to do with science. Why drag the theory of evolution into this in the first place? What does metaphysics have to do with the frequency of alleles in populations of living beings?
garouHH 3 years ago