I speak (my personal opinion) of The Battle (s) Antietam, Gettysburg and the Movie Gettysburg. Learning I had relatives fighting on both sides. This movie moved me to tears, to inspiration, to hope; that no matter the circumstances in our differences, there IS HOPE. I LOVE this movie, and care about each and every soldier who fought in the Civil War. The Cast of Gettysburg was outstanding! My love of History and those who have been a part of it, continues.
"no safe place here?" Man I would have pulled back period...figured out the exact lay out of the land..then laid a trap for the yankees...it is always the same story..the man in the field understands the problems far better than the arm chair general know it alls...same held through down through history right through Viet nam but now we have sattelites so the armchair generals can see fact-not fantasy!
56,000 casualties in just three days. 13,000 in a single engagement.Marching in brigade strength. How did America last this long ? That's what I would like to know....
@Capcvid07 I can answer you're question. General Lee counted his "Sick and Slightly wounded" from June 1st, 1862 to May 13th, 1863. On May 13th, 1863, General Lee wrote "General Order #63" "Which was to prevent the counting of sick and slightly wounded men." So, we can not take General Lee's losses seriously during that time period. No other Confederate/Union Army Commander did that. Thus, all the losses are way to high.
@rebel2276 At the battle of Fredericksburg for an example, MG. Burnside wired his losses to the War Department. President Lincoln was there and when he read the message, he order MG. Burnside to "Tone down the losses". Why? The Emancipation Proclamation was going to be read in two weeks. General Lee had several hundred of his men, that faked being sick, so they could go home for Christmas.
@Capcvid07 After researching for seven years on the losses, I found out that 50% of a typical regiment's wounded, were slightly wounded. That goes for Union and Confederate regiments. At the regimental level, the losses are more true. The brick wall I came to, was when did those slightly wounded soldiers RTD (Return to Duty?). The next day? The next week? Etc.
3:11 - ...his grandfather, president of the united states..(beshaw! John Tyler became president by accident! mostly because of william henry harrison's stupidity)
@sparkreno19 not really stupidity. harrison was 68 years old and caught a cold during the campaign. then it was cold at the inaugural and he developed pnemonia. thats not really stupid its just him being sick and getting more sick he was 68 and that was considered quite old in 1840 . wearing a hat at the inaugural wouldnt have helped much. i think the reason they spoke of the confederates that way was to make everyone understand that they were americans fighting americans and not some aliens.
***Our Glorious Confederate Army*** the bravest men this world will ever know. To look death straight in the face, fight & die and for the cause of our states rights and our fellow Confederates and our friends and our families....You are not forgotten
@TerrorWarrior5000 I guess General Grant was racist then, he owned slaves that his father-in-law gave him when married Julia. I guess George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Andrew Jackson, James Madison, James Monroe, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, James K. Polk, Zachery Taylor and Andrew Johnson are Presidents and National Hero's that owned slaves.
@rebel2276 You are correct and they were racists, but some of them repented like Grant and fought to free the slaves. Real conservatism didn't come around until Martin Luther King created it.
@TerrorWarrior5000 I agree with you that some did repent as Benjamin Franklin had done after the American Revolution. I highly doubt Grant and the Union armies were fighting to free slaves. I don't know but I had the most family serve in the Union Army and a quarter of them fought in Massachusetts regiments. I have yet to find in any letters, diaries or asentence that they left their houses to possibly get maimed or die freeing slaves. I judge that from their letters.
@robh64 Grant' wife, Julia did not free the slaves till the 13th Amendment. Grant and Julia lived in Missouri, which abolished slavery in January 1865. Some of the slaves ran off and some stayed. Julia just did not want to let them go.
@robh64 Exactly, that is what I tried to explain to "RonPaulHatesBlacks" and his Fifty sock accounts he uses. As I had to explain a dozen times to him, that "Women had no rights during the Civil War" thus any slaves Julia owned, Grant owned. Grant was "The man of the house".
To put that in our time period, imagine your wife adopts a baby, since you are married to her, you are equally responsible for the care of that baby.
Glad to read there are people with common sense on this site!
No, you flat out lied. You claimed McFeely wrote at page 62 that Ulysses S. Grant personally owned 12 slaves at "New Haven." That's a FLAT OUT LIE. McFeely wrote that Grant only ever owned one slave, for one year, who he voluntarily freed though he badly needed the money that would have come from a sale. And now you're claiming your grandfather ran the CIA---another FLAT OUT LIE.
Women could own property in the 1800s, retard. Even Mississippi allowed women to own slaves. You're just a LIAR.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks if your wife owned slaves and you lived , essentialy they are your responsibility, regardless of the technical ownership issue you raise, he was the head of the household, therefore his by default if nothing else. he was aware, he was culpable
Ownership of property is not a "technical issue," retard. If Ulysses had owned Julia's four slaves (two personal attendants and their young sons), he would have FREED them, just like he freed the one slave he did own, though he desperately needed the money that would have come from a sale. Indeed, Grant “always said he wanted to give his wife’s slaves their freedom as soon as he was able.”
Stop lecturing about American history. Stick to the REAL reason you support slavery.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks so i guess he was powerless to free slaves his "wife" owned? who wore the pants in that family? and how soon was he able? when the law said they were free? give me a break.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks You mean Gen. Grant, who had no problem throwing thousands of lifes away at fortified lines, demanded unconditional surrender and was hand picked by Lincoln to command a army, was powerless to free slaves his wife owned? Theres no excuse here and its a irony that needs exploring.
Um, yes. People are powerless to take "property" owned by other people. I think I can guess why you ducked the question of whether you even graduated high school.
You've obviously never studied American history in your entire life, much less graduated with a degree in it. So why not drop the act, stop lecturing the world about a subject you've never studied in your entire life, and instead argue the REAL reason you think blacks deserve more years of slavery?
@RonPaulHatesBlacks Really none of your business about my education or my 22 years in the Us cavalry/army , or 2o years reenacting the civil war, or 40 some years spent walking and visiting almost every battlefield there is. never mind my relatives who fought for the north and south. never said I believed in slavery, it is appalling. But the issue isnt cut and dried, it was complicated then and now. You dont have to insult to express your opinions either, I must end debate if you persist.
Like I said, you've obviously never studied American history in your entire life, much less graduated with a degree in it, so stop lecturing the world about it. Do you also go to medical videos and lecture doctors about proper surgical techniques, you ignorant fuck?
You believe slavery is appalling? Really? Then you must be glad the North fought back and freed the Southern slaves, so slavery didn't continue even one second longer that it did. I mean, you do believe slavery is appalling, right?
@RonPaulHatesBlacks If you care to come to missouri next month and attend some reenactments im going to I could share some good history around the campfire. Ive forgotten more history than youll ever learn though, i was raised in va and had decendants in the anv and aop, but i asked you not to insult but you remain profane so its a waste of time. pearls before swine i say Come to carthage or wilsons creek reenactments, im in the 9th
No offense, but why on Earth would I possibly want to hear lies and horseshit from someone who's never studied American history in his entire life and wishes America had surrendered to the racist confederacy? Stick to your Jewel and Evanescence videos, you creep.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks racist??? hold on sure they had slavery and all put they had to! They had a too little population to work on the plantations. plus they didnt have to pay workers much like in England during the INdustrial revolution where families were paid $.50 per day. isnt that slavery too?
@thelittlemind No, it's not slavery when you're paid and free to move where you want, learn to read, worship how you want, marry who you want, and have children without the fear that they will be seized and sold. Fucking obviously. No worker would have traded their life for that of a slave in Mississippi. Not one. You should be ashamed of yourself, boy.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks it is slavery ... when you get paid dirt for a whole days work. thats slavery.. Slavery in the South was very popular cause it was cheap labor. CHEAP like workers in china where i can get 50 shoes for the price of 1 made in USA... slavery? no just good business. of course its wrong but its MONEY they cared about.. not some (sorry for word) negro who was sold from his own nation to work at a plantation. Ashamed? why should i when modern society does this anyway... ex. China
I only have one account, you pathetic coward. So far you've been caught FLAT OUT LYING about Ulysses S. Grant, William McFeely, and your own grandfather. You should be ashamed of yourself. You're a disgrace to your family, the United States of America, and its honest and honorable armed forces.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks One account? lol. Mark you were always a horrible liar. Anyone reading this, tap on his screen name and ask yourself why he has 50 sock accounts of the same person? Mark, if that was not you, why would you add the same person, 50 times, when you could add that person just one time?
Give it up, Mark you are not fooling anyone and certainly not me. "RonPaulHatesBlacks" seems to be the mother ship of all your 50 fake sock accounts. Plus you type the same stupid shit.
Nope, you're still lying through your teeth, you fucking disgrace to the United States military. I only have one account. I've only ever had one account. Tapping on my screen name does not (and can not) say anything different.
You've chosen to live your life without honor or integrity, and now you're projecting that shit onto others. You've FLAT OUT LIED about Ulysses S. Grant, William McFeely, and your own family. You've chosen to dishonor yourself and the United States of America.
@RonPaulHatesBlacks Well if I am a disgrace to the United States Military, I don't know how in the world I went from a Private to Colonel in Twenty-Eight years.
Mark, what always gives you away is your insults and profanity, your the only nut case on YouTube that uses the same words. Just like 12FlyMe, SouthernFriedHoney, NavyBeer, ItchMyfoot, IowaSea, Nawwleans, Tubetaxpro, Steamboat, Freelunchtax, mybookdeal and on and on. Why have all of those fake sock accounts? lol
@rebel2276 Mark, I was going through your 50 sock accounts and man you got a ton of people hating you, lol. I encourage anyone reading this, if your looking for a good laugh, click on one of his fake sock accounts I listed. Then view comments, you will read, "Another Sock account from RonPaulHatesBlacks", lol. Then compare his words he typed to me and those on his 50 fake sock accounts on the left. "Stupid fuck, dumb fuck, stupid shit, fucktard, retard" Etc. He types that to anyone and everyone.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! I'm not ANY of those accounts, you fucking retard!!! I've never even heard of most of them!!! A few of the others used to post on some of the same videos as me, but they have a different agenda and a completely different writing style!!! Are you really this fucking stupid? They call people "dumb fuck"---I don't. I've never called anyone a "fucktard" in my entire life!!! Holy shit, you're a FLAT OUT LIAR and a complete fucking idiot!!!
Hahahaha, as if being apart of an organization supported by theft and murders people for the sake of Corporatism is something to be honored. Seriously, stupid kid, study Philosophy and get back to me. Laughs.
@robh64 Guess who dropped in, look down at "RonPaulHatesBlacks" lol. This is the "Nut Case" on YouTube. Just as I typed to you on how he is, just read below.
@TerrorWarrior5000 The best primary accounts on the Civil War, are written by the soldiers that fought in the battles and wrote about camp talk. The Carlisle Barracks contains thousands of soldiers letters which my associates and I enjoy reading. The National Archives letters are more of higher level Generals and members of Lincoln's cabinet. The Library of Congress is the largest library in the world and they had tens of thousands of Civil War books, which we hope to finish one day, lol
@TerrorWarrior5000 I am not from the South nor born in the South and have very little to do with the South. I just respect General Lee on a commander to commander basis. The battle of Chancellorsville was very interesting and just the audacity of Lee to split is already outnumbered Army in half right in front of Hooker surely was not found in any book at West Point. I would be interested if Lee took command of the Union Army at the start of the war, would he fail or take Richmond?
Pickett's division was not as bad as Hollywood or history portrays it. Longstreet said to Pickett, "Nonsense, you will find many of your men in those woods behind me." Nearly 500 men alone in Kemper's brigade fell out of the attack within 150 paces. Some of Marshall's men (Pettigrew's brigade) got down and took cover in the small Plum Run creek. MG. Trimble wrote, that when he looked right, he saw thousands of Confederates running back. About 6,000 Confederates stayed in the attack.
@cachorastaman 1) Ewell did not have the manpower to attack Cemetery Hill. Smith and Gordon's brigades were pulled to the far left to cover the entire ANV's left flank. 2) Lee took Gettysburg, what other position were there? 3) Lee had order Longstreet to attack "As early as practicable" on July 2nd. Had Longstreet followed Lee's order, Sickle's 3rd Corps would not have moved up to the Peach Orchard. But Longstreet delayed waiting for Law's brigade. Longstreet finally attacked at 4PM.
@cachorastaman Many people blamed Longstreet for the loss at Gettyburg. Lee in a letter to Senator Wigfall (Texas) in 1869, wrote, "I wish he had attacked sooner then later". Longstreet dragged his feet and sulked because he did not get what he wanted. Even Pickett's Charge, was delayed, that was suppose to be an early morning attack. Again, Longstreet delayed. Half of the Confederates fell out of the attack and/or got down and the total loss was 4,800. It was not as bad as we have been told.
@haynes1776 No they were not, for not many people know what Longstreet had said to Pickett. "Things were not as bad as he believed, in a few hours, Longstreet reassured him, he would be able to find an impressive number of his men." Source: North&South, Vol 1, #6, page 52, by John Michael Priest. Now Priest, confirms that half of the Confederates did not make it to the Emmitsburg Road. Many fell out of the attack or got down.
@haynes1776 It was not as bad has we thought it was. John Michael Priest put the total loss at "4,800" a far cry from what we had always thought it was. Considering the AOP lost around 8,000 men at Marye's Heights at Fredericksburg. Personally I don't believe strength's and losses in any army. I spent Seven long years and no two historians in the past or present will agree on anything. Everything is just a "Ball park figure." Only at the regimental level will it be most accurate.
@haynes1776 Take for an example, when General Lee took command on June 1st, 1862 he counted his sick and slightly wounded men, thus his casualty lists were much larger then they were. Finally on May 14th, 1863, he stopped that practice, with General Order #63. No other Confederate nor Union Army took their sick or slightly wounded off the casualty lists. MG. Hancock ordered his division and brigade commanders not to fill out any reports from May 5th, 1864--February 15th, 1865.
@haynes1776 So for a nice long "Enjoyable" Seven years I attempted to figure out the real losses. Ugh, don't do it, just leave it alone. I just stick with regimental missing strengths and losses, Union/Confederates at certain battles.
@haynes1776 Any questions you have, I will try to answer them the best I can, if I do not know it, I will search for it. But I will never lie or bullshit you or anyone else. I have been into the Civil War as early as Seven years old, a bit odd, as no elementary school libraries have war books. I feel that I am just looking for myself back then. Call it strange, but I had the most family fight for the Union over 200. On the other side of my family around 137 fought for the South.
@rebel2276 Thanks. Im very impressed that you are into the American civil war a lot. You have a big family history of relatives that fought on both sides. Ive got into the Civil war at an early age myself. My Uncle, Bill Bradley, had a great great grandfather, Isom Ampey and a his Brother, Thomas, serve with the 54th Mass: one of many reasons why im into the civil war so much. Im hoping to be a re-enactor someday to honor my Uncle's ancestors.
@haynes1776 I read on the Civil War every day and every day I find something new and I have been reading seriously on the Civil War for almost Thirty years. Even I have millions of questions, when the experts don't know those questions, I must search at the National Archives and Library of Congress. My GGG-Grandfather was Captain Benjamin Franklin Prouty who commanded company "B" in the 6th Connecticut. When the 54th Mass fought at Fort Wagner, the 6th Conn was behind them.
@haynes1776 Isom and Thomas both served in company "K" in the 54th Massachusetts. Both were privates and both are on the same roll number, M589 Roll 2 (National Archives). Both are also on the African American Civil War Memorial, here in Washington DC. E-153 is the number for both of them. Elijah King Prouty and George Prouty are C-82 and C-88. Elijah Prouty was with the 8th VT, but joined the 74th USCT. He started off as 1st LT but finished as Adj't and wrote the history of the 74th USCT.
@haynes1776 Now George Prouty was a camp follower (We believe) and he picked up the last name and while in camp with the 8th Vermont, down in New Orleans. George later joined the 81st USCT. USCT regiments from the 47th-51st, 73rd-76th, 80th-99th were all raised in Louisiana. Only the 54th Mass, 55th Mass and 29th Connecticut were allowed to keep their state number. All the rest turned into the U.S.C.T regiments. A total of 160 regiments were raised, 60 saw combat, 145 Inf, 13 artillery, 7 Cav.
@haynes1776 The United States government promised equal pay (13 dollars a month) for White and African-American soldiers. Well for some odd reason they only paid 10 dollars a month to the Africans. Finally on June 15th, 1864, Congress passed the bill and they were allotted 13 dollars a month. One in three African soldiers died in the war. Battles like the Crater and New Market Heights claimed many lives. There was also one engineer regiment.
to this day I"m still not sure what General Lee was thinking. a mile or more over open ground with no cover and no artillery support. Even if the Federals had only a skeleton crew on that ridge with just about 800 men and some return artillery followed by a few canister guns they could hold that ridge days! Weeks even if they distribute properly. General Armistead did lead a break but it was fleeting at best. General Lee get desperate for an end or something?
@legendarytoyou Civil War debate is always so "iffy" but worthwhile.Maybe Lee thought Stuart's cavalry would hit Hancock's line from behind or the flank but they were stopped, largely because of much-maligned George Custer, making the loser at Little Bighorn one of the saviors of the Union. Then again British generals years later copied Lee on the battlefields of France but against Mausers and Spandau machine guns. Appreciate your opinions. Best.
@zacher456 Oh,man. Sorry. Armistead was a brave soldier and leader and his courage at Gettysburg proved it. I admire his freindship to Union Gen Hancock, commander of the Union II corps on Cemetery Ridge, whomed he faced on the third day. I know Hancock was devasted to hear the news of Armistead's death.
@haynes1776 thank you for those kind words. i have actually gotten in touch with a decsendant of the great hancock and we discussed alot about the friendship and the war
@zacher456 I admire Gen Armistead and his service in the civil War. He lead his brigade all the way to the stone wall at Cemetery ridge and breach the union line temporary, with his hat perched on his sword, he urged them on. Brave but futile effort. High water mark.
@zacher456 Farnsworth House Inn published a biography of Armistead by Wayne Motts that is quite good - even has an older photo of him when he had hair. Motts is an historian in Gettysburg and is pretty much the Armistead authority.
The losses of Pickett's charge werw high. Gen pettigrew and Gen Trimble each lost more than half of their command. Pickett's division was virtually destroyed: 40% casualties. all Gen armistead, mortally wounded, gen Garnett, killed in action, Gen Kemper, wounded. 4 regiments losing more than 80% of their men. 6500 dead,wounded,missing or captured out of 11-15000 men engaged. Union losses were around 1,500
union artillery open up on the confederate advance at will. The objective was the small clump of trees at the angle on Cemetery ridge despite heavy casualties, the confederates pressed on and did breach the union center: "the High water mark of the Confederacy." But, the union line held and the remaining confederate troops were forced to withdrawl.
Around 3:00 the confederates advanced: Pickett's division,Pettigrew's brigade,4 brigades of Pender's ,Heth's division, Wilcox and Lang's brigade from Anderson's divsion: in all, 50 regiments from 6 states: 15000 men, would marched into history
The confederate batteries opened up on cemetery ridge. Union batteries responded, but conserved their ammuniton to prepare for the infantry attack that was sure to follow. Col Alexander, commanding the confederate artillery, tole Longstreet that ammuniton was running low and if they were to support the infantry, the attack must be made now.
Longstreet strongly urged Lee to reconsider not to attack the Union center on Cemetery ridge, believing that the attack will fail. The attack will have cover a mile of open ground, exposing the confederates to union artillery: solid shot, canister fire, and within the range of aiming musketts, to reach the union lines.
On the third day of battle, Lee renewed his attacked on the federal right at culp's hill, with no sucess. Then planned a attack on the union center on Cemetery ridge with a mass artillery: around 150 guns followed by a infantry charge of 15000 confederates,with Gen George Pickett's division of Longstreet's corps. The stage was set for one of the most military disasters of the war;Pickett's charge.
@demeandr121 - actually, I think that or something like it actually happened. Armistead was talking to someone when a shell narrowly missed him and blew over someone a few feet away. Armistead never flinched.
I LOVE Armistead so much! I cry every time I watch his death scene! Richard Jordon was a FANTASTIC actor, and I wish he could have been in "Gods and Generals", too! Rest in peace, Richard!
My favorite part is where the scout Harrison asks Longstreet if he can join the battle and Longstreet responds by giving him a totally accurate prediction of what a disaster the charge is going to be
My favorite part is where Gen Lee rides to meet the men after Picketts Charge....and says.....Its all my fault.......taking the full responsibility on himself and not his men
@Wackylackay what??......how is the soldiers fault..........they have to follow orders......Gen Longstreet saw the folly of Pickett's charge.........and could only shake his head when asked to give the order............the men were at fault....... I dont think so
it so sad seeing Lee and Picket cry
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I speak (my personal opinion) of The Battle (s) Antietam, Gettysburg and the Movie Gettysburg. Learning I had relatives fighting on both sides. This movie moved me to tears, to inspiration, to hope; that no matter the circumstances in our differences, there IS HOPE. I LOVE this movie, and care about each and every soldier who fought in the Civil War. The Cast of Gettysburg was outstanding! My love of History and those who have been a part of it, continues.
blueandgrayfamily 3 months ago 3
"no safe place here?" Man I would have pulled back period...figured out the exact lay out of the land..then laid a trap for the yankees...it is always the same story..the man in the field understands the problems far better than the arm chair general know it alls...same held through down through history right through Viet nam but now we have sattelites so the armchair generals can see fact-not fantasy!
norseleague 4 months ago
Is it true that the Gettysburg Battle field area is haunted? They say it's called "The Largest Unmarked Grave in the United States"
Capcvid07 5 months ago
56,000 casualties in just three days. 13,000 in a single engagement.Marching in brigade strength. How did America last this long ? That's what I would like to know....
Capcvid07 5 months ago
@Capcvid07 I can answer you're question. General Lee counted his "Sick and Slightly wounded" from June 1st, 1862 to May 13th, 1863. On May 13th, 1863, General Lee wrote "General Order #63" "Which was to prevent the counting of sick and slightly wounded men." So, we can not take General Lee's losses seriously during that time period. No other Confederate/Union Army Commander did that. Thus, all the losses are way to high.
rebel2276 1 month ago
@rebel2276 At the battle of Fredericksburg for an example, MG. Burnside wired his losses to the War Department. President Lincoln was there and when he read the message, he order MG. Burnside to "Tone down the losses". Why? The Emancipation Proclamation was going to be read in two weeks. General Lee had several hundred of his men, that faked being sick, so they could go home for Christmas.
rebel2276 1 month ago
@Capcvid07 After researching for seven years on the losses, I found out that 50% of a typical regiment's wounded, were slightly wounded. That goes for Union and Confederate regiments. At the regimental level, the losses are more true. The brick wall I came to, was when did those slightly wounded soldiers RTD (Return to Duty?). The next day? The next week? Etc.
rebel2276 1 month ago
3:11 - ...his grandfather, president of the united states..(beshaw! John Tyler became president by accident! mostly because of william henry harrison's stupidity)
sparkreno19 6 months ago
@sparkreno19 There's no such thing as an accident, just God's providence.
Ridgetown100 6 months ago
@sparkreno19 not really stupidity. harrison was 68 years old and caught a cold during the campaign. then it was cold at the inaugural and he developed pnemonia. thats not really stupid its just him being sick and getting more sick he was 68 and that was considered quite old in 1840 . wearing a hat at the inaugural wouldnt have helped much. i think the reason they spoke of the confederates that way was to make everyone understand that they were americans fighting americans and not some aliens.
bigblondman1 6 months ago
that scene with amistad dieing always gets to me
firefly81492 6 months ago
"Treat your men as you would your own beloved sons, and they will follow you into the deepest valley."
— Sun Tzu
TheFlamingbrownie 8 months ago 9
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I'm so very tired.
Jemmer1000 8 months ago
the south was right
1701patrick 11 months ago
***Our Glorious Confederate Army*** the bravest men this world will ever know. To look death straight in the face, fight & die and for the cause of our states rights and our fellow Confederates and our friends and our families....You are not forgotten
mollymaemorrissey 1 year ago
The Confederates were racist and owned slaves
TerrorWarrior5000 1 year ago
@TerrorWarrior5000 I guess General Grant was racist then, he owned slaves that his father-in-law gave him when married Julia. I guess George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Andrew Jackson, James Madison, James Monroe, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, James K. Polk, Zachery Taylor and Andrew Johnson are Presidents and National Hero's that owned slaves.
Anymore questions?
rebel2276 1 year ago
@rebel2276 You are correct and they were racists, but some of them repented like Grant and fought to free the slaves. Real conservatism didn't come around until Martin Luther King created it.
TerrorWarrior5000 1 year ago 2
@TerrorWarrior5000 I agree with you that some did repent as Benjamin Franklin had done after the American Revolution. I highly doubt Grant and the Union armies were fighting to free slaves. I don't know but I had the most family serve in the Union Army and a quarter of them fought in Massachusetts regiments. I have yet to find in any letters, diaries or asentence that they left their houses to possibly get maimed or die freeing slaves. I judge that from their letters.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@rebel2276 Grant had slaves well past the wars end.
robh64 11 months ago
@robh64 Grant' wife, Julia did not free the slaves till the 13th Amendment. Grant and Julia lived in Missouri, which abolished slavery in January 1865. Some of the slaves ran off and some stayed. Julia just did not want to let them go.
Great post!
rebel2276 11 months ago
@rebel2276 Grant's wife, yes that means grant owned them. If my wife had a slave in my house, i would be responsible no>? this was the 1800's.
robh64 11 months ago
@robh64 Exactly, that is what I tried to explain to "RonPaulHatesBlacks" and his Fifty sock accounts he uses. As I had to explain a dozen times to him, that "Women had no rights during the Civil War" thus any slaves Julia owned, Grant owned. Grant was "The man of the house".
To put that in our time period, imagine your wife adopts a baby, since you are married to her, you are equally responsible for the care of that baby.
Glad to read there are people with common sense on this site!
rebel2276 11 months ago
No, you flat out lied. You claimed McFeely wrote at page 62 that Ulysses S. Grant personally owned 12 slaves at "New Haven." That's a FLAT OUT LIE. McFeely wrote that Grant only ever owned one slave, for one year, who he voluntarily freed though he badly needed the money that would have come from a sale. And now you're claiming your grandfather ran the CIA---another FLAT OUT LIE.
Women could own property in the 1800s, retard. Even Mississippi allowed women to own slaves. You're just a LIAR.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago 2
@RonPaulHatesBlacks if your wife owned slaves and you lived , essentialy they are your responsibility, regardless of the technical ownership issue you raise, he was the head of the household, therefore his by default if nothing else. he was aware, he was culpable
robh64 11 months ago
Ownership of property is not a "technical issue," retard. If Ulysses had owned Julia's four slaves (two personal attendants and their young sons), he would have FREED them, just like he freed the one slave he did own, though he desperately needed the money that would have come from a sale. Indeed, Grant “always said he wanted to give his wife’s slaves their freedom as soon as he was able.”
Stop lecturing about American history. Stick to the REAL reason you support slavery.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks so i guess he was powerless to free slaves his "wife" owned? who wore the pants in that family? and how soon was he able? when the law said they were free? give me a break.
robh64 11 months ago
Um, yeah. People are powerless to take "property" owned by other people. Did you even graduate high school, boy?
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks You mean Gen. Grant, who had no problem throwing thousands of lifes away at fortified lines, demanded unconditional surrender and was hand picked by Lincoln to command a army, was powerless to free slaves his wife owned? Theres no excuse here and its a irony that needs exploring.
robh64 11 months ago
Um, yes. People are powerless to take "property" owned by other people. I think I can guess why you ducked the question of whether you even graduated high school.
You've obviously never studied American history in your entire life, much less graduated with a degree in it. So why not drop the act, stop lecturing the world about a subject you've never studied in your entire life, and instead argue the REAL reason you think blacks deserve more years of slavery?
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks Really none of your business about my education or my 22 years in the Us cavalry/army , or 2o years reenacting the civil war, or 40 some years spent walking and visiting almost every battlefield there is. never mind my relatives who fought for the north and south. never said I believed in slavery, it is appalling. But the issue isnt cut and dried, it was complicated then and now. You dont have to insult to express your opinions either, I must end debate if you persist.
robh64 11 months ago
Like I said, you've obviously never studied American history in your entire life, much less graduated with a degree in it, so stop lecturing the world about it. Do you also go to medical videos and lecture doctors about proper surgical techniques, you ignorant fuck?
You believe slavery is appalling? Really? Then you must be glad the North fought back and freed the Southern slaves, so slavery didn't continue even one second longer that it did. I mean, you do believe slavery is appalling, right?
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks If you care to come to missouri next month and attend some reenactments im going to I could share some good history around the campfire. Ive forgotten more history than youll ever learn though, i was raised in va and had decendants in the anv and aop, but i asked you not to insult but you remain profane so its a waste of time. pearls before swine i say Come to carthage or wilsons creek reenactments, im in the 9th
robh64 11 months ago
No offense, but why on Earth would I possibly want to hear lies and horseshit from someone who's never studied American history in his entire life and wishes America had surrendered to the racist confederacy? Stick to your Jewel and Evanescence videos, you creep.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
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Haha, you're the reason why stupid kids shouldn't drop out after the 7th grade, pedophile.
FlashVirus 9 months ago
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<< Would rather be a 'creep' than a pedophile and a Creationist. :)
FlashVirus 9 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks racist??? hold on sure they had slavery and all put they had to! They had a too little population to work on the plantations. plus they didnt have to pay workers much like in England during the INdustrial revolution where families were paid $.50 per day. isnt that slavery too?
thelittlemind 6 months ago
@thelittlemind No, it's not slavery when you're paid and free to move where you want, learn to read, worship how you want, marry who you want, and have children without the fear that they will be seized and sold. Fucking obviously. No worker would have traded their life for that of a slave in Mississippi. Not one. You should be ashamed of yourself, boy.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 6 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks it is slavery ... when you get paid dirt for a whole days work. thats slavery.. Slavery in the South was very popular cause it was cheap labor. CHEAP like workers in china where i can get 50 shoes for the price of 1 made in USA... slavery? no just good business. of course its wrong but its MONEY they cared about.. not some (sorry for word) negro who was sold from his own nation to work at a plantation. Ashamed? why should i when modern society does this anyway... ex. China
thelittlemind 6 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks robh64, There he is, see just as I typed!!! lol Mark is very mentally ill, so take it easy on him.
Get use to his "Insults" and "Profanity". Click on his screen name and check out his 50 sock accounts he uses, lol.
Have a good night, robh64!
rebel2276 11 months ago
I only have one account, you pathetic coward. So far you've been caught FLAT OUT LYING about Ulysses S. Grant, William McFeely, and your own grandfather. You should be ashamed of yourself. You're a disgrace to your family, the United States of America, and its honest and honorable armed forces.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks One account? lol. Mark you were always a horrible liar. Anyone reading this, tap on his screen name and ask yourself why he has 50 sock accounts of the same person? Mark, if that was not you, why would you add the same person, 50 times, when you could add that person just one time?
Give it up, Mark you are not fooling anyone and certainly not me. "RonPaulHatesBlacks" seems to be the mother ship of all your 50 fake sock accounts. Plus you type the same stupid shit.
rebel2276 11 months ago
Nope, you're still lying through your teeth, you fucking disgrace to the United States military. I only have one account. I've only ever had one account. Tapping on my screen name does not (and can not) say anything different.
You've chosen to live your life without honor or integrity, and now you're projecting that shit onto others. You've FLAT OUT LIED about Ulysses S. Grant, William McFeely, and your own family. You've chosen to dishonor yourself and the United States of America.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks Well if I am a disgrace to the United States Military, I don't know how in the world I went from a Private to Colonel in Twenty-Eight years.
Mark, what always gives you away is your insults and profanity, your the only nut case on YouTube that uses the same words. Just like 12FlyMe, SouthernFriedHoney, NavyBeer, ItchMyfoot, IowaSea, Nawwleans, Tubetaxpro, Steamboat, Freelunchtax, mybookdeal and on and on. Why have all of those fake sock accounts? lol
rebel2276 11 months ago
@rebel2276 Mark, I was going through your 50 sock accounts and man you got a ton of people hating you, lol. I encourage anyone reading this, if your looking for a good laugh, click on one of his fake sock accounts I listed. Then view comments, you will read, "Another Sock account from RonPaulHatesBlacks", lol. Then compare his words he typed to me and those on his 50 fake sock accounts on the left. "Stupid fuck, dumb fuck, stupid shit, fucktard, retard" Etc. He types that to anyone and everyone.
rebel2276 11 months ago
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! I'm not ANY of those accounts, you fucking retard!!! I've never even heard of most of them!!! A few of the others used to post on some of the same videos as me, but they have a different agenda and a completely different writing style!!! Are you really this fucking stupid? They call people "dumb fuck"---I don't. I've never called anyone a "fucktard" in my entire life!!! Holy shit, you're a FLAT OUT LIAR and a complete fucking idiot!!!
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
No go back to:
1. FLAT OUT LYING about Ulysses S. Grant.
2. FLAT OUT LYING about William McFeely.
3. Ranting about the evils of Jesuits and "towelheads."
4. FLAT OUT LYING that your grandfather was the Director of the CIA.
5. Trolling for and trying to meet up with 13-year-old girls.
You're a sick, lying, dishonorable piece of shit.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 11 months ago
@RonPaulHatesBlacks Mark, level with me here, is this your "Multiple Personality Disorder"?
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rebel2276 11 months ago
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Hahahaha, as if being apart of an organization supported by theft and murders people for the sake of Corporatism is something to be honored. Seriously, stupid kid, study Philosophy and get back to me. Laughs.
FlashVirus 9 months ago
@robh64 Guess who dropped in, look down at "RonPaulHatesBlacks" lol. This is the "Nut Case" on YouTube. Just as I typed to you on how he is, just read below.
rebel2276 11 months ago
@TerrorWarrior5000 The best primary accounts on the Civil War, are written by the soldiers that fought in the battles and wrote about camp talk. The Carlisle Barracks contains thousands of soldiers letters which my associates and I enjoy reading. The National Archives letters are more of higher level Generals and members of Lincoln's cabinet. The Library of Congress is the largest library in the world and they had tens of thousands of Civil War books, which we hope to finish one day, lol
rebel2276 1 year ago
@TerrorWarrior5000 I am not from the South nor born in the South and have very little to do with the South. I just respect General Lee on a commander to commander basis. The battle of Chancellorsville was very interesting and just the audacity of Lee to split is already outnumbered Army in half right in front of Hooker surely was not found in any book at West Point. I would be interested if Lee took command of the Union Army at the start of the war, would he fail or take Richmond?
rebel2276 1 year ago
@rebel2276 Lee would have never attacked Virginia soil
robh64 11 months ago
Pickett's division was not as bad as Hollywood or history portrays it. Longstreet said to Pickett, "Nonsense, you will find many of your men in those woods behind me." Nearly 500 men alone in Kemper's brigade fell out of the attack within 150 paces. Some of Marshall's men (Pettigrew's brigade) got down and took cover in the small Plum Run creek. MG. Trimble wrote, that when he looked right, he saw thousands of Confederates running back. About 6,000 Confederates stayed in the attack.
rebel2276 1 year ago
Amazing movie, master class performances by these guys! Truly epic moves me, no matter how many times I see it!
sherp2u1 1 year ago 2
General Lee had the chance to
1-Give a decent attack at the beginning to gain the high ground
2-Take the city and with it a better position for a fight
3-Take the Round Tops early on and destoy the Union from behind
but his stuborness cost him the battle, and later the war
and yet he is considered the most loved american general of all time
go figure
cachorastaman 1 year ago
@cachorastaman 1) Ewell did not have the manpower to attack Cemetery Hill. Smith and Gordon's brigades were pulled to the far left to cover the entire ANV's left flank. 2) Lee took Gettysburg, what other position were there? 3) Lee had order Longstreet to attack "As early as practicable" on July 2nd. Had Longstreet followed Lee's order, Sickle's 3rd Corps would not have moved up to the Peach Orchard. But Longstreet delayed waiting for Law's brigade. Longstreet finally attacked at 4PM.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@cachorastaman Many people blamed Longstreet for the loss at Gettyburg. Lee in a letter to Senator Wigfall (Texas) in 1869, wrote, "I wish he had attacked sooner then later". Longstreet dragged his feet and sulked because he did not get what he wanted. Even Pickett's Charge, was delayed, that was suppose to be an early morning attack. Again, Longstreet delayed. Half of the Confederates fell out of the attack and/or got down and the total loss was 4,800. It was not as bad as we have been told.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@rebel2276 When General Pickett said to Lee, Gen Lee, I have no division. I assume that his whole division of Virginians were decimated.
haynes1776 1 year ago
@haynes1776 No they were not, for not many people know what Longstreet had said to Pickett. "Things were not as bad as he believed, in a few hours, Longstreet reassured him, he would be able to find an impressive number of his men." Source: North&South, Vol 1, #6, page 52, by John Michael Priest. Now Priest, confirms that half of the Confederates did not make it to the Emmitsburg Road. Many fell out of the attack or got down.
Ok, are we cleared up on this subject?
rebel2276 1 year ago
@rebel2276 I appreciate the info. Still Pickett's charge was very costly. the Army of N Virginia never recovered from their losses from Gettysburg.
haynes1776 1 year ago
@haynes1776 It was not as bad has we thought it was. John Michael Priest put the total loss at "4,800" a far cry from what we had always thought it was. Considering the AOP lost around 8,000 men at Marye's Heights at Fredericksburg. Personally I don't believe strength's and losses in any army. I spent Seven long years and no two historians in the past or present will agree on anything. Everything is just a "Ball park figure." Only at the regimental level will it be most accurate.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@haynes1776 Take for an example, when General Lee took command on June 1st, 1862 he counted his sick and slightly wounded men, thus his casualty lists were much larger then they were. Finally on May 14th, 1863, he stopped that practice, with General Order #63. No other Confederate nor Union Army took their sick or slightly wounded off the casualty lists. MG. Hancock ordered his division and brigade commanders not to fill out any reports from May 5th, 1864--February 15th, 1865.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@haynes1776 So for a nice long "Enjoyable" Seven years I attempted to figure out the real losses. Ugh, don't do it, just leave it alone. I just stick with regimental missing strengths and losses, Union/Confederates at certain battles.
Have a great weekend, Haynes!
rebel2276 1 year ago
@rebel2276 That is weird that units did not keep accurate records on casualties I appreciate the info, rebel2276 :)
haynes1776 1 year ago
@haynes1776 Any questions you have, I will try to answer them the best I can, if I do not know it, I will search for it. But I will never lie or bullshit you or anyone else. I have been into the Civil War as early as Seven years old, a bit odd, as no elementary school libraries have war books. I feel that I am just looking for myself back then. Call it strange, but I had the most family fight for the Union over 200. On the other side of my family around 137 fought for the South.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@rebel2276 Thanks. Im very impressed that you are into the American civil war a lot. You have a big family history of relatives that fought on both sides. Ive got into the Civil war at an early age myself. My Uncle, Bill Bradley, had a great great grandfather, Isom Ampey and a his Brother, Thomas, serve with the 54th Mass: one of many reasons why im into the civil war so much. Im hoping to be a re-enactor someday to honor my Uncle's ancestors.
haynes1776 1 year ago
@haynes1776 I read on the Civil War every day and every day I find something new and I have been reading seriously on the Civil War for almost Thirty years. Even I have millions of questions, when the experts don't know those questions, I must search at the National Archives and Library of Congress. My GGG-Grandfather was Captain Benjamin Franklin Prouty who commanded company "B" in the 6th Connecticut. When the 54th Mass fought at Fort Wagner, the 6th Conn was behind them.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@haynes1776 Isom and Thomas both served in company "K" in the 54th Massachusetts. Both were privates and both are on the same roll number, M589 Roll 2 (National Archives). Both are also on the African American Civil War Memorial, here in Washington DC. E-153 is the number for both of them. Elijah King Prouty and George Prouty are C-82 and C-88. Elijah Prouty was with the 8th VT, but joined the 74th USCT. He started off as 1st LT but finished as Adj't and wrote the history of the 74th USCT.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@haynes1776 Now George Prouty was a camp follower (We believe) and he picked up the last name and while in camp with the 8th Vermont, down in New Orleans. George later joined the 81st USCT. USCT regiments from the 47th-51st, 73rd-76th, 80th-99th were all raised in Louisiana. Only the 54th Mass, 55th Mass and 29th Connecticut were allowed to keep their state number. All the rest turned into the U.S.C.T regiments. A total of 160 regiments were raised, 60 saw combat, 145 Inf, 13 artillery, 7 Cav.
rebel2276 1 year ago
@haynes1776 The United States government promised equal pay (13 dollars a month) for White and African-American soldiers. Well for some odd reason they only paid 10 dollars a month to the Africans. Finally on June 15th, 1864, Congress passed the bill and they were allotted 13 dollars a month. One in three African soldiers died in the war. Battles like the Crater and New Market Heights claimed many lives. There was also one engineer regiment.
Have a good morning, Haynes!
rebel2276 1 year ago
I'm a civilian but I've often wondered about the hard earned privilege of a salute, given or received, especially when things are not going so good.
deriter64 1 year ago
to this day I"m still not sure what General Lee was thinking. a mile or more over open ground with no cover and no artillery support. Even if the Federals had only a skeleton crew on that ridge with just about 800 men and some return artillery followed by a few canister guns they could hold that ridge days! Weeks even if they distribute properly. General Armistead did lead a break but it was fleeting at best. General Lee get desperate for an end or something?
legendarytoyou 1 year ago
@legendarytoyou Civil War debate is always so "iffy" but worthwhile.Maybe Lee thought Stuart's cavalry would hit Hancock's line from behind or the flank but they were stopped, largely because of much-maligned George Custer, making the loser at Little Bighorn one of the saviors of the Union. Then again British generals years later copied Lee on the battlefields of France but against Mausers and Spandau machine guns. Appreciate your opinions. Best.
deriter64 1 year ago
Armisteads conversation with Freemantle is very prophetic. We are facing the same issues today. Nothing was resolved.
seeingthesigns 1 year ago
To be a good soldier you must love the army. To be a good commander you must be able to order the death of the thing you love.
captincaveman89 1 year ago 8
Great scene, one of the best in the movie!
kbit70 1 year ago
0:18, 1:45 random cannon shot deaths
KDODND 1 year ago
I am related to General Armistead.
zacher456 1 year ago
@zacher456 you have any records or accounts of general Armistead? Just curious.
haynes1776 1 year ago
@haynes1776 We don't sadly...all we have is an old family tree book.
zacher456 1 year ago
@zacher456 Oh,man. Sorry. Armistead was a brave soldier and leader and his courage at Gettysburg proved it. I admire his freindship to Union Gen Hancock, commander of the Union II corps on Cemetery Ridge, whomed he faced on the third day. I know Hancock was devasted to hear the news of Armistead's death.
haynes1776 1 year ago 2
@haynes1776 thank you for those kind words. i have actually gotten in touch with a decsendant of the great hancock and we discussed alot about the friendship and the war
zacher456 1 year ago
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haynes1776 1 year ago
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zacher456 1 year ago
@zacher456 I admire Gen Armistead and his service in the civil War. He lead his brigade all the way to the stone wall at Cemetery ridge and breach the union line temporary, with his hat perched on his sword, he urged them on. Brave but futile effort. High water mark.
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haynes1776 1 year ago
@zacher456 Farnsworth House Inn published a biography of Armistead by Wayne Motts that is quite good - even has an older photo of him when he had hair. Motts is an historian in Gettysburg and is pretty much the Armistead authority.
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lakelandchief 1 year ago
The losses of Pickett's charge werw high. Gen pettigrew and Gen Trimble each lost more than half of their command. Pickett's division was virtually destroyed: 40% casualties. all Gen armistead, mortally wounded, gen Garnett, killed in action, Gen Kemper, wounded. 4 regiments losing more than 80% of their men. 6500 dead,wounded,missing or captured out of 11-15000 men engaged. Union losses were around 1,500
haynes1776 1 year ago
union artillery open up on the confederate advance at will. The objective was the small clump of trees at the angle on Cemetery ridge despite heavy casualties, the confederates pressed on and did breach the union center: "the High water mark of the Confederacy." But, the union line held and the remaining confederate troops were forced to withdrawl.
haynes1776 1 year ago
Around 3:00 the confederates advanced: Pickett's division,Pettigrew's brigade,4 brigades of Pender's ,Heth's division, Wilcox and Lang's brigade from Anderson's divsion: in all, 50 regiments from 6 states: 15000 men, would marched into history
haynes1776 1 year ago
The confederate batteries opened up on cemetery ridge. Union batteries responded, but conserved their ammuniton to prepare for the infantry attack that was sure to follow. Col Alexander, commanding the confederate artillery, tole Longstreet that ammuniton was running low and if they were to support the infantry, the attack must be made now.
haynes1776 1 year ago
Longstreet strongly urged Lee to reconsider not to attack the Union center on Cemetery ridge, believing that the attack will fail. The attack will have cover a mile of open ground, exposing the confederates to union artillery: solid shot, canister fire, and within the range of aiming musketts, to reach the union lines.
haynes1776 1 year ago
On the third day of battle, Lee renewed his attacked on the federal right at culp's hill, with no sucess. Then planned a attack on the union center on Cemetery ridge with a mass artillery: around 150 guns followed by a infantry charge of 15000 confederates,with Gen George Pickett's division of Longstreet's corps. The stage was set for one of the most military disasters of the war;Pickett's charge.
haynes1776 1 year ago
147 year anniversary of the bloodiest battle of the american Civil war
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demeandr121 1 year ago
@demeandr121 - actually, I think that or something like it actually happened. Armistead was talking to someone when a shell narrowly missed him and blew over someone a few feet away. Armistead never flinched.
rob9641 1 year ago
@rob9641 yeah but, getting smashed into a tree?
demeandr121 1 year ago
nice video watch the patriot it talks about how britain surrenderd
12andrewrules 1 year ago
Damn kids and your Avatar, wouldn't know a good movie if it BUTT raped you!! >8c
captincaveman89 1 year ago
@captincaveman89 Hey!! Im only a kid yet I watch this, KNOWING its a good movie :)
demeandr121 1 year ago
wow
shortcakesxx3 2 years ago
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drlovejones21 2 years ago
I LOVE Armistead so much! I cry every time I watch his death scene! Richard Jordon was a FANTASTIC actor, and I wish he could have been in "Gods and Generals", too! Rest in peace, Richard!
TerriMorganDishife 2 years ago 21
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Anfield4Ever 1 year ago
@TerriMorganDishife Hotchkiss boy.
kentucy9999 10 months ago
@kentucy9999 ?? O.o
TerriMorganDishife 10 months ago
My favorite part is where the scout Harrison asks Longstreet if he can join the battle and Longstreet responds by giving him a totally accurate prediction of what a disaster the charge is going to be
gigi6196 2 years ago 2
My favorite part is where Gen Lee rides to meet the men after Picketts Charge....and says.....Its all my fault.......taking the full responsibility on himself and not his men
northshore7x 2 years ago 19
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It's true.
Can you imagine some general or politician, (a chairman!!!!) doing the same.
miquelvernet 1 year ago
@northshore7x not many officers today would do that.
ProtestantIRA 1 year ago
@northshore7x Later tried to deflect some guilt and get his property back from Uncle Sam. Sam refused.
JohnCronin103 1 year ago
@northshore7x Right Sir
rebsunrise 9 months ago
@northshore7x it was both their faults ;D
Wackylackay 8 months ago
@Wackylackay what??......how is the soldiers fault..........they have to follow orders......Gen Longstreet saw the folly of Pickett's charge.........and could only shake his head when asked to give the order............the men were at fault....... I dont think so
northshore7x 8 months ago
@northshore7x nahhh. They werent a stone wall that time, it was more like a wall of hay that was burned till nothing was left.
Wackylackay 8 months ago