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  • Ironic that Beck was deemed an idiot then,and now the prediction become a reality. Fox News can be right sometimes.

  • @jd3189 You can randomly say shit and some of that stuff at some point in time will happen odds are.

  • @TheSolitaryTraveller I know,but still, he was right. Egypt's new government is now mostly Islamic,not secular.

  • @jd3189 and? is that so evil?

  • @darkwarriorkane It's is, if you consider that the Muslim Brotherhood doesn't want Israel existing, and since Egypt is ruled by them, and it also shares a border with Israel,crap is just waiting to happen.

  • @jd3189 well yes that's bad for israel however people have not wanted it to exist since it became a place. If we worry about every single person who doesn't like israel were all gonna go gray early. Besides there have been many religious governments who didn't start wars for no apparent reason I just hope they take a min to read there book lol

  • In hiindsight, Beck doesn't seem SO crazy, does it? 

  • @YouTubularinNYC no, he definitely still seems crazy

  • About "Jihadists threating the Middle East"... Are you saying now that you're worried about it? The only country there that you care about (among the vast majority of Americans) is Israel, not Iraq, not Saudi Arabia, certainly not Iran (concerning to Iranians) and even less do you concern about Tunisia, Egypt, Lebanon, or even Turkey that is a NATO member! Neither Americans concern about 5 million deaths in Congo (not Muslim), or the other conflicts in Africa or in Asia. USA = Hypocrisy!

  • Concerning to "Europe is done" by Glenn Beck, it has been quite OBVIOUS that Fox News Americans (who I believe are those who vote for Republican presidents, as the "brilliant" G.W.Bush who renamed the French Fries) hate European societies almost as much as they hate the Muslims, so are they worried about Europe now? Really? It's Europe that has to take care of itself, not USA...

  • 3rd: This is quite typical of a religious-motivated "News" network... To say that the Tunisians or the Iranians or all the Muslim-majority country's peoples who are fighting against their dictatorships are Jihadists who hate America, is completely pathetic!.. Do you know what's the proportion of Christians in Lebanon, for instance? They are now estimated to be between 39% and 43% of the Lebanese population, up from 25% in the 1980s, and USA still supports that Israel invades their whole country!

  • 1st, I think that though by what I've seen Fox News is a horrible and completely biased network, I need also to say that at least Fox News was right concerning to the point that the democratic experience in Egypt is starting to be a complete disaster (mainly for women and Copts), and that the Muslim Brotherhood is not innocent there. 2nd: Even though, I think that the comparison with Tunisia or Iran (where a revolution would actually make a theocratic regime collapse) is completely pathetic.

  • Well, when glenn beck saied that egypt will be ruled by sharia law tyt and the lefty west saied he is crazy. Now we know he was right. Sorry glenn, we were wrong!!! but i guess no one will admit that he was right all the time

  • Xeniphobia is an awful thing

  • Glenn beck should run for president haahhahaahhahahaaha

  • Fox is no worse than China state TV, CCTV

  • I sew alot of your clips! you are full of shit man!!!! really all of them are proves wrong ! l

  • I swear these people at fox are idiots....like all they see is the word muslim...

  • I have never heard anything so retarded in my life in such concentration. How do these people manage to not soil themselves?

  • here is a zionist trying to start propaganda so we can attack Iran...we need to stop the lies..if we don't we will allow these people to start a world war 3..screw anyone who is for war...this is a time to awaken of the bull shit..it'd time for peace,love,and harmony with earth and to take care of each othe as oneness..pray for world peace!

  • Tffff a3lekum ya ks, not TYT, the people in the clip

  • beck is a complete dumb shit

  • It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, the moon god "al-Ilah" (Allah) had three daughters named al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat. The first two were even named after their father. Each daughter had a separate shrine near Mecca, where Allah's shrine was located.Yet it is written on the dome of the rock that God has not begotten(children)nor is he begotten...what is the truth

  • @eirwal777

    The truth is religion is a brainwashing tool for the weak. If you believe your weak. You do not know god and anyone who claims they do is a liar.

  • @Reido2828 Out of the mouth of two or more witnesses a matter is established(not one) God the Father and the Holy Spirit attested to Jesus Chrsit, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit attested to God the Father, and God the Father and Jesus Christ attested to Holy Spirit................who did Mohammad attest to?....no other witnesses?............seems to be a problem in Mecca

  • @eirwal777

    I understand your point. Islam is more violent than Christianity but truth is Christianity has sections of violence and genocide to. If I had to pick a side it would be my Christian side and heritage for sure but I will not single out one faith as they all have killed millions in the name of one.

  • Fitna (also fitnah or fitnat) (فتنة) is an Arabic word with connotations of secession, upheaval and chaos. It is often used to refer to civil war. See documentary by the same name, better accessed by Google seach than Youtube.

  • The Young Turks are part of the Islamization propaganda machine, whose purpose it is to discredit those who have the insite and the wisdom of God to see the agenda of the spiritual galvanizing of other wise divided Muslims into a cohesive, virulent,violent force, and the subsequent destruction of the nations of Europe,all for the purpose of creating a caliphate. The Antichrist shall come out of Europe, and Jesus Christ shall be coming back very soon. Pray and ask Jesus to be Lord of your life.

  • i agree. these people want to only see "liberation" and dont understand that the muslim brotherhood is the same type of organization that caused 9/11 but are too ignorant to think that the same things cant happen again.

  • First of all, the Muslim Brotherhood is not armed---they really don't have a Hezbollah-style paramilitary army. If they do, then I would already see a civil war---not a revolution. In terms of covering the Egyptian protests---Fox News is trying to discredit the revolution by degrading the protesters and their movement towards freedom.

  • fuck the brotherhood

  • As long as you engage in blatant propoganda, such as this example of extreme abuse of "editing", or "Cut and Paste" lies, you will continue to live the poor and trashed lives that you live. I feel sorry for you that fail to educate yourselves and allow this type of Pravda trash to be willingly poured down your ignorantly open turkey gullets. Sad. Stay in the Third World of mind manipulation. Truly a waste of people that could actually use their brains for a change of scenery. Such a waste.

  • Glenn Beck is a stupid paranoid bitch! How can you support democracy but yet against Egypt's rebellion from a dictatorship!!

  • Fox News' slogan: We are Fixed and Biased

  • beck is roy masters puppet.

  • fucking americans make everything about themselves and "danger to their national security"

  • @yomamma12324

    You know what I realize... I don't think the U.S ever got over 'It's us, a new place against the entire world' mentality ever sense its founding.

  • If you bring religion into your argument, you are denied a voice. Grow up.

  • To the Religious Debate below me...

    First off, let's take away God, Jesus and other such people AWAY from the equation...

    I'd like to address the person who said all terror organizations come from Islam, Spanish Inquisition mean anything?

    Last time I checked, Christians have caused MORE wars than any other religion combined...

    Christianity, Islam and Judaism all follow the same God, but different principles...

    Whatever name God may have...

  • @Zeoras

    I'm backing you here. The IRA, the ETA, the Tamil Tigers: these were/have been three of the most prolific terrorist organizations in the world, organizations that other terrorist groups have patterned themselves after. None of these three have any Islamic bent in their ideology. Terrorism is a phenomenon of nationalism, which religion makes worse. No religion out there can claim clean hands in this matter.

  • @Friendough Try reading 'dying to win', an objective study of suicide terrorism. The number 1 factor is... OCCUPATION. Not nationalism. IRA - occupation of Northern Ireland, ETA - occupation of Basque region, Tamil Tigers - occupation of Sri Lanka. Al Qaeda - american bases on holy land (Saudi Arabia) and occupation of Palestine. I'm not saying these groups are correct but their motives seem to be what Durkheim referred to as 'altruistic suicide'.

  • @gazz12345a

    I am farmiliar with this analysis, and it does make a fascinating read. I still contend that nationalism is an axiomatic component to terroristic violence, including suicide bombings. I suppose that questions of sovereignty aren't important, as I see many of these groups as separatists. Still, it's an interesting point, thanks for the comment.

  • Say whay you want Beck called this whole middle east uprising a long time ago

    and he called it too the 't

    (the truth has no agenda)

  • seriously? you think that i'm going to wait for a commercial...

    Anyways, Glen Beck is one of the most honest reporters out there...kudos on his integrity

  • @Elisheval Your joking right?

    ''If you log onto this (Cars.gov) at your home, everything in your home is now theirs.''

    —Glenn Beck, arguing that the Cash for Clunkers program was nothing more than a secret government plot to gain access over your computer, July 2009

    What does this say to you?

  • You know what, young turks, I'll say this: the day a democratic government shows up in Egypt (not run by a sick organization like the muslim brotherhood) I'll gladly say I'm wrong.

  • I hate fox news, honestly i do, but how is this crazy? if you call the muslim brotherhood anything close to a democratic organization you have no idea what the muslim brotherhood is. I suggest you look into a little history of the muslim brotherhood. Every single, and I repeat, EVERY single terror organization has stemmed from the muslim brotherhood.

  • It's of course no surprise the Americans are against the Egypt protesters, as Mubarak is their imperialist stooge. They have no interest in democracy. Its no coincidence they are no in Libya where Gaddaffi, though by no means a wonderful man, is an anti-imperialist and is (compared to Mubarak, Ben Ali and the cronies in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia) relatively progressive (aka nationalising the oil industry)

  • Wasn't September 10th relatively peaceful?

  • you now whats funny in my country i live in ( canada ) the goverment dosnt allow fox news to brodcats now the reason for that is because we have a law of ling in the media. sooooo ya

  • @umairool50 nice

  • Glenn Beck is bad for America.....

    America gave weapons to Afghanistan and Sadam. So whose side is anyone on?

    Is it funny that Americans don't bash Christianity, but bash Islam?

  • @fatfatat444

    He never game weapons to saddam.........Islam is a cult not a religion

  • @leedaomillz bla bla bla. yes america gave weapons to saddam. and no islam is a religion the same way christianity is a religion.

  • @fenix144 Jesus was about peace, unlike the pedophile mo of islam who married a 6 year old, and rubbed her up for three years before marrying her. Jesus, never told people how they must shit, eat, have sex, have sex one of three ways with animals. Jesus said love your enemy and convert him, Mo said if they won't convert, kill them. Jesus never treated women as less than a man, 4 male witnesses weren't necessary for Jesus to believe a woman. The koran is the book of a false idol, the moon god.

  • @HelmsinOz funny.

  • @HelmsinOz Yea thats why only 400 years after Christianity was established Christians killed, murdered, raped all Jews in the prospering city of Alexandria and burnt down the great Library of Alexandria for a 2nd time in which the great mathamatician Archamides already proved that the world was round which would take another 1000 years to rediscover. All in the name of peace right?

  • @leedaomillz No it is a religion. As for weapons, yes the U.S did supported Saddam and even gave him chemical weapons which he used against his OWN people.

  • Glenn Beck remindes me of Senator Joe McCarthy.

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  • Glen beck is so fucking dumb all he ever does is kiss a dick ride something. I don't know listens to him.

  • FOX LIES!

  • Archbishop Charles Chaput -- "We make a very serious mistake if we rely on media like the New York Times, Newsweek, CNN, or MSNBC for reliable news about religion. These news media simply don’t provide trustworthy information about religious faith — and sometimes they can’t provide it, either because of limited resources or because of their own editorial prejudices.”

    If you can't believe these sources about religion, then doesn't that color everything they publish?

  • Alexis de Tocqueville said "In every Democracy, The people get the government they DESERVE" the real question is, would we be doing what is best for them (Islamic countries) by giving them a democracy?

  • Jihadism exists and is pernicious, but it's unfair to lump all Islamic people and groups in the jihadist niche just because of their religion. It's equivalent to lumping all Christian people and groups in with the Westboro Baptist niche.

  • You people are so stupid......and youll be sorry when hes right

  • @vissermk3 but what if he's wrong? this would be textbook fear mongering

  • glenn beck is a stupid lunatic that only cares about money

  • TheYoungTurks is a liberal media puppet douchebag

  • "They've done no terrorism"

    The Muslim Brotherhood killed an Egyptian president for signing a peace agreement with Israel.

    This Young Turk is a liar.

  • @WHYwontUturn2Jesus you have no clue, you never will, you're sad

  • Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?

    I don't agree with Glenn Beck.

    I think he is an evil man.

    But this Young Turk is also lying.

    Don't believe everything that you are told.

    Look up the Brotherhood Assassination,

    and realize that the Western media is lying to us,

    telling us that they are this nice, friendly, lovable political parties.

    Please don't be deceived,

    come to Christ before it's too late.

  • @WHYwontUturn2Jesus? Becuase Jesus is a Man. Turn to God before it's too late!!!

  • @WHYwontUturn2Jesus You're argument was making sense until you mentioned Christ. 

  • @WHYwontUturn2Jesus that was the EIJ not the muslim brotherhood.

  • i agree that the conservatives are retarded... but they ARE right, the islamic radicalists are set to overthrow democracy. NOTE that i said radicalists!, i know a few muslims in Toronto and they even agree with me, actually they are more violent about the radicalists. So you see, we are left with a problem... Who is a blind drone to political islam and who is a religious muslim?

  • this whole channel needs to be obliterated.....

  • @canofsand

    In conclusion, yes i am terrible at arguing, and all of what i just said is probably a bit off topic. But it is relevant to me, because i felt, in my opinion, that the way you talk you didn't really sound like an American, and that's what worries me. I have to say something about it.

    As for calling me a god-hating liar - I forgive you on that. You are entitled to your judgement of me and I don't mind. Sounds fair?

    I think pt 1 of my rebuttal is on comments page 2 now.

  • And right now, Conservative personalities on Fox News are accusing the genuine democratic movement in the Middle East as a conspiracy by the "uber-left" to impose a caliphate from Cairo to Texas.

    All I said was an OPINION, and i admit, i may be wrong or have the benefit of doubt. I also want you to know that despite their beliefs, I think many Conservatives are decent, warm-hearted individuals who are concerned about America and want to express their opinions. i welcome that.

    pt 6

  • And worst of all I seen the Conservatives' dirty and dishonesty in getting their views across. In Texas now, textbooks are being rewritten by a conservative board of education; history is revised so that the Enlightenment, Slave Trade and even Thomas Jefferson was edited out or renamed, and Civil Rights Movement, UN Evolution and other religions portrayed in negative light. If that's not dirty, i don't know what is. pt 5

  • I had also read news of couples being despised by others, especially Republicans, for being homosexuals, as seen in Proposition 8 in California. I have a few gay people at my school, and everyone of them are decent, honest and good people. They would had been good Christians if they aren't gay! But they don't have a choice on the matter because they were born with it. pt 4

  • they speak with forked tounge- they LITERALLY SIDE WITH DICTATORS.

    What they do with tea bags+citizen united$+guns, guns, guns.

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  • @PacificCircle1 Says the Leftist whose "side" tends to ACTUALLY literally side with dictators and their pals, from Chavez to the bloody "highly esteemed" T-shirt fashion symbol Che.

  • What the heck, those FOX News and GB.tv reports are so bizarre. I don't know how much selective editing they've don at TYT but I searched a few FOX clips and not a single time they show an Egyptian actually speaking. And also strange how they talk about the Muslim Brotherhood.

  • Europe will fall to Islamic fundamentalists........LOL!!!!­!!!!!

  • Wow, that was accurate fox news. Well done :|

    *heavy sarcasm*

  • Beck should be in a straight jacket, being fed from a spoon!

  • What smack is Beck on!? He's talking shit about Muslims this year, last year he was all for them in his interview with Geert Wilders.. Make up your fucking mind who you actually support you money grubbing bent bastard!

  • I guess these conservatives are afraid because this can be an inspiration for the American people to protest against the US Government.

  • Oh and I love how the young turks will take some nobody's word over John Bolton's word,......a guy with more middle east and international expirence than anyone on watching this video combined.

  • The Young Turks are totally obsessed with Beck.....

  • @Stunr99 So? He is funny to them

  • @Auraruth8 So funny that he was aying this woul dhappen 3 years ago....You stay with the Beck obsessed haters...

  • @Stunr99 Come on seriously, you take Glenn Beck seriously? If so I am sorry for you man, or woman.

  • @Auraruth8 Hey Auraruth8, If you don't like Beck, you're in the minority. Maybe you should look in the mirror and ask what happen to you.

  • @Stunr99 Dude Seriously? like a funny paranoid guy right? Funny to listen to but nothing else right?

  • @Auraruth8 Just saying guy...Your kind of people are falling to the way side due to illogical procedures and measures. While BECK WAS SPOT ON! 3 yrs ago about events today, your rachael maddows were and are still in the dark.

  • @Stunr99 Dude seriously are you taking this man seriously. I am so so sorry for you.

  • @Auraruth8 I'm sorry you can't understand Beck like most succesful Americans DO!.........You were prob never good at Math either

  • @Stunr99 Even if he has had a 100 things right he still has had 10 million things wrong. For example there is no communist plot in Egypt and if you think there is than I am truly sorry for you. Come to Europe, go to the Middle East, read books on history, read history on the founding fathers you will discover that they where smarter than most Americans and politicians today. And they would be what you would even call communists.

    If they saw what the US has become they would puke.

  • @Auraruth8 bwhahahahahahaha...^^^^^ This guy says are founding fathers were communist....Dude, you are wrong on so many levels I do not know where to begin!

  • @Stunr99 I said you would call them communists, I didn't say they where. Did you know that they where in favor of publicly funded hospitals and public funding for education. Franklin successfully created a system where people paid virtually no taxes. How? The answer: the state governments in some states owned the central banks and where in the business of money lending. That's how they created revenue. Hamilton used a protectionist policy to make the US richer.

  • @Auraruth8 Leftists are the ones trying to demonize the Founders as "old, racist white men." They're the historical revisionists, not us. Leftists are the ones who think the Constitution means whatever they WANT it to mean rather than subscribing to the only logical method for interpretation, the one used universally in other legal/contract/binding-documen­t interpretations: Original Meaning (look it up). Someone infected with Progressive mind-cancer has no place lecturing on the Founders.

  • @canofsand

    I can give you the exact quotes if you wanted, but they are also posted on Wikipedia, Gutenburg (read entry "The Rights of Man" and "Agrarian Justice") and also on Cracked website in an article titled "8 historical symbols that mean the opposite of what you think

  • @TheVoiceOfReason93 I don't care about the typical Leftist Founding Fathers quote snippets and "ooh, this one Founder didn't have a high opinion of organized religion" and other irrelevant details. If you have something outside of that, maybe you'd have a point, but I've been dealing with your ilk for years and they've never produced it - and more importantly, I've studied the Founders for years and the overall image clearly contradicts their distorted / contextless characterizations.

  • @canofsand

    I am not leftist, but i am an IB History Student - which means I have to stick to Historical accuracy whenever I could. I did my own research, and so far I found almost equal amounts of evidence pointing out that the Founding Fathers found America on a secular basis as it is under God. As far as I can tell though, The constitution WAS written with reference to Magna Carta and the Enlightenment, as suggested by another commentor earlier in the comment section

  • @canofsand  I am truly sorry for you.

  • Wow..U young turks r so up ur own ass its unbeiveable....Do any of the clips talk about the Egyptian people as a whole?.No. Every Fox person that he showed was talking specifically about the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a Sunni group that began in Egypt, that supports Hamas and Hezzbollah. Is it illogical to see them as a threat? The only political group in Egypt that is organized now is the Muslim Brotherhood...does it sound dumb to ask what role they will play in the new regime? Do Research!

  • @TommyG232 If the egyptians want to elect a member of the muslim brotherhood, so be it. that's what fuckin democracy is. If you can't live with this, just put another despot there like you always do when it fits your plans.

  • Considering the avrage iq of u.s citizens. u should rly consider making fox illegal.. Ur freedom of speech is a joke anyway. (=

  • @GonzoInthefoot You spelled "average" wrong.

    --a concerned U.S. citizen

  • Fox News piss me off, now a democrat is in the White House they play out a curious under-doggery where they complain about liberal bias in the media one moment and brag about their cable dominace the next.

    Now to a foreigner like me all the Fox anchors look like characters from some 80's Frat House comedy that get wound up by anything to the left of Mussolini.

  • hate hate hate hate hate hate hatehateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee­eeeeeeee that is all they are about every last one of them.the republican party r the pits

  • @canofsand btw before you try and catogories me (which im sure is comming) im not some Neo-Con or Left wing loon.......IM AWAKE!!!!

  • @canofsand ok, keep being scared of the long beard boogie man that lives in caves but has the technology to fly planes into buildings...your being played..wake up. im sure your fine with some grown man fondeling 4 year olds at the airport cause their potential terrorist. are there real threats out there..yes..is it some raggety book in a desert or a 4 y/o at the airport....FAIL!!!!!

  • Ooooh.....spooky muslim hand book found in an empty desert, glad they found it before it did any harm...what a joke.

  • @DeathDOer01 Because the concern was the book itself, right? Are you actually that dense that you think the book itself was the "threat"? No, of course you're not; you're just intellectually dishonest. You may, however, be quite dense when it comes to certain other things, putting your head into the sand about the radicals that do want to kill us.

  • @canofsand hey hi comrade! how have you been? I'm ready now to assimilate you in my communist nation and tattoo you the hammer and sickle on the forehead! *cough*i'll also take possession of all your belongings*cough*

  • @fenix144 I'll take your complete failure to even attempt to address my point as evidence that you've got nothing intelligent to add - as usual for those who hang out in a TYT thread. It's not like the uploader's all that bright, anyway, at least not when it comes to obvious facts he wants to avoid because they disrupt the narrative.

  • @canofsand The fact of the matter is I stopped considering you like a reasonable person eversince our first exchange when you made it clear you feared possibly everything. fear doesn't breed logical thinking. fear only breeds partisan ideology and more fear.

  • @fenix144 Thanks for the straw man (as if any comeback to someone pointing out that you don't even ATTEMPT to address their points - short of addressing their points - could be considered reasonable), but here's a tip: You don't have to make it QUITE that obvious that it's made of straw with the "everything" exaggerations.

  • @falconfira your not the only one, believe me :)

  • Glenn Beck is really a good actor...seriously..i mean shit he has some 2 million viewers that actually think hes being serious. hahah The conservative military industrial complex picks better actors than the Screen Actors Guild does lol....... i mean micheal scott Alec Baldwin and larry david......where was Glenn beck he has me rolling everytime.

  • Oh Americans!

    People revolt of hunger and u shit your pants. That spells insecurties and ill-intentions. Why would you be this agitated if you don't consider the area...well... your own!

    Love TYT.nice job.

  • Poop on FOX. Revolution is tumultuous, but it can be necessary for freedom to prevail, as Americans should know from their own history. To quote Frederick Douglass, "If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning.” Terrorism is abhorrent, of course, but one musn't equate it with the intrinsic right of anyone to revolt against tyranny.

  • @judasishmael Because the conservatives are upset about the concept of revolution itself, right???? Your straw man arguments are pathetic.

  • @canofsand "Because the conservatives are upset about the concept of revolution itself." These are solely your words, not mine.

    Whatever stance any of the conservtives in this video have on what they deem to be revolution is unknown because they are not speaking of the turmoil in Egypt in terms of revolution, but only as some terrorist agenda to usurp power in Egypt. They are looking at this revolution and seeing only terrorism, thereby, in this video, equating this revolution with terrorism.

  • @judasishmael You can't support a straw man argument with more straw men. You aren't addressing what they're actually talking about at all. You're just being a sophist, as usual for you head-in-the-sand types.

  • @judasishmael maybe the reason there are terrorists in the middle east is because occidental imperialism has done a lot of damage there? I mean, when peoples are not under a regime that's supported by a foreign country they tend to not like said foreign country.

  • @fenix144 I have no doubt that some countries' actions, including the U.S., had a hand in at least inspiring many terrorists in the Middle East. I don't think this, in any way, is an excuse for terrorism; when one has a bone to pick, one should use their words and even nonfatal demonstrations, not car bombs. However, you have a valid point a I completely agree our hands are not as clean as we would like others to believe.

    PS- Love the usage of "occidental!" Vocabulary truly is a dying art.

  • @judasishmael Oh of course it doesn't provide an excuse for terrorism. But sometimes when discourse is not encouraged peoples tend to use the most extreme means at their disposal. It doesn't mean, however, that said means can be excused.

  • @judasishmael P-S : You sound like a reasonable person and it's always a nice thing on youtube.

  • @fenix144 In terms of unencouraged discourse, I must harken back to blacks in the U.S. using sit-ins as a form of protest, an action that even blacks at the time found troubling because they already felt they had enough trouble as is. But after a couple decades, it worked. Much less than a century later, we have a black president. Kudos to civil protest.

    And kudos to you, as well. Youtube is rife with venomous comments, but you really seem to hold your own without striking out. It's admirable.

  • @judasishmael You clearly haven't read many of his other comments. Why, right here in this thread he's been a sophist and a troll. More directly, though, here's how his most recent one listed in the YouTube comment search starts: "congrats dumbass." Another from that list: "why does he always have one or two clueless bitches each time he wants to make a 'point'?" No, he's just as willing to be a vitriolic scumbag as most other stereotypical Internet liberals.

  • @canofsand yes. I most certainly am a troll from time to time canofsand. especially with the peoples who speak like you do :)

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  • @canofsand ''Then you admit defeat in the arena of ideas. In a fair fight of logic and reasoning, the Left always loses in the end, because you invariably cannot defend one thing or another'' you're quite the funnay guy mr. canofsand. You're right that I admit defeat. not to logic and reasoning however. I declare defeat to fear and war-mongering. such things fuel ignorance. Fear annihilates any such thing as logic and reasoning.

  • @canofsand ''reeks of elitism/authoritarianism (e.g. the nanny state).'' talking about the left. what are your arguments?I think mr. canofsand you fail to understand the complexity and subtlety of such ideologies. The simple fact that you put all the left in the same bag as communism and socialism is proof enough for me.

  • @fenix144 You're a self-admitted troll. Remind me why I should waste time pretending it's even possible to have an intellectually honest debate with you?

  • @canofsand You're a self-admitted communist fearer. But let's say for a second I do want to hear what you think. At the condition you don't start off with a gross generalisation that all the left is the same.

    I honestly think our big difference is our fundamental views of government and society.

  • @fenix144 Apparently you don't know what "self-admitted" means. Hint: It doesn't mean "what I've just dreamed up about you because I HATE YOU SOOOO MUCH!!!!111"

  • @canofsand I've not freamed up anything. you provided links to shit involving communists that wanted harm for the USA. how is that dreaming?

  • @fenix144 There are different senses of the word "fear." If you DON'T have any concern about the Communists, you are part of the problem - either an ignorant, or an enemy. You imply more than just concern, though, as if I'm panicked about it. You dreamed that up. But, again, you're a troll, so it's not like I can take any argument you make all that seriously. You're a joke.

  • @canofsand Oh lord, not another fear mongering conservative raising the alarms about the communist boogyman. Anyone who fears communism more than any other system of government is irrational coward.

  • @GoodOldHalo I could point to evidence of the Communist agenda being pushed in this country, but I see you aren't even worried about Communism in a more general sense. Are you a high school graduate? Have you ever taken a history class? Your ignorance is unforgivable - either on your part, or your teachers'.

    Communist Body Count

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    But that's no different than government set up in image of our Founders' Democratic Republic, right?

    Idiot.

  • @canofsand I am no more worried about the fanatics of communism than any other idealogy that have all racked up a body count. You really want to talk about what our founders wanted and how far we have strayed from that? Really? You don't want to go there. If there is one thing you conservatives have proven time again you know nothing of America's real history other than empty propaganda.

  • @GoodOldHalo Oh, so now you're moving the goal posts. You've changed from "any other system of government" to only fanatics of ideologies that have "racked up a body count."

    As for the Founders, how about you expose your ignorance and severe projection problems: Come on, let's go straight to the 3/5 clause. I know that's where you want to go. Tell me how "racist" it was to count slaves as 3/5 a person. (Clue: The abolitionists wanted them to count as ZERO.)

  • @GoodOldHalo Oh, and FYI: The Communists' body count is higher than every other govt ideology's, including the Nazis, so... yeah. You're still an idiot.

  • @canofsand I'd like to see proof of that statement considering how relatively young communism is. Maybe in the 20th century it was the leading cause, but more than dictatorship that's been around for thousands of years? I doubt it. Goal post? Are you retarded? That's totally in line with what I said from the beginning with "anyone who fears communism more than any other system of government is a irrational coward. It's right there for you to see but like a true conservative you see what you want

  • @GoodOldHalo Ha! You can't fool me as easily as you fool your fellow Lefty drones. I'm fluent in English. I'm not sure what dialect it is that you are speaking (bullcrap, maybe?), but in English, "any other system of government" is not at all equivalent to "any... idealogy that [has] racked up a body count." Idiot. However... (continues)

  • @GoodOldHalo (continued)

    Your second statement could - if we're a bit loose with the grammar - alternatively be interpreted to instead mean that you think ALL political ideologies have racked up a body count. In order to avoid the "idiot" label immediately at that point, we'd have to assume you mean a "comparable" body count... at which point the "idiot" label comes in again, because they haven't. Not even close.

  • @GoodOldHalo Oh, and Communism in practice is a type of dictatorship. In order to get to where Communism's not the #1 most murderous regime type, you've got to create super-group types like that. You might as well create a group called "all evil regimes except Communism." But no, using reasonable categorization, nothing else comes close in terms of mass slaughter. Your best argument would involve making excuses because world population is higher now, not lame special categories.

  • @canofsand Well yeah, not only were they hypocrites with the race issue, but Jefferson didn't want banks, Washington didn't want entangling alliances or political parties, and, oh yeah, they didn't like democracy. Not to mention the fact that lemmings like you forget the fact that they weren't gods, they were humans. They knew that, which is why they made the document capable of change which is the true brilliance of the constitution.

  • @GoodOldHalo The Founders weren't in 100% agreement on everything. So what? Jefferson wasn't a fan of certain banking institutions, but the way you put it is flatly false. The biggest laugh, though, is when you, with some lead up as if it's some shocking and horrible discovery you've made, state that the Founders "didn't like democracy." DEMOCRACIES FAIL. THAT'S WHY WE ARE A REPUBLIC. (continues)

  • @GoodOldHalo And the method of changing the Constitution is THE AMENDMENT PROCESS, not the MADE UP WHOLE-CLOTH Progressive cancer-of-the-mind idea of a "living document" where people just say "screw what the legally binding contract says, let's just say it REALLY means something else! And when people question us, we say TOO BAD FOR YOU!"

    Geeze, man. It's like you're trying to hit all the stereotypical talking points of the ignorant Leftist.