U.S. Sen. SamuEL JAMES erVIN's assigned 578-52-3300 is easy to find in the index. The same can’t be said for the owner of 241-31-9509 (who died on 4/23/08--the 23rd anniversary of erVIN’s death) because the surname is misspelled in the database, omitting a second “I”. Unrelated to Saint Valentine or same-sex coupling: slain NFL QB Steve McNair (426-37-9322) was born on FEB. 14, 1973--the 31st birthday one with a matching surname in the database, HERman WIGGNS (Louisiana issued 439-54-0801)
WHY do people continue to claim they have facts, but when you ask them to provided evidence they abuse, lie, change the issue or in the case of hajable9 saying they won't reply anymore proving they have been caught out lying in that they had NO facts.
kwvaussie was an opportunity for us to elevate,to have a written discussion, if you allow this, this an opportunity for you and I to grow, strengthening our fact reasoning abilities. I stated logical information unto you. young woman, if this was true, was a first time shooter, 5 shots to take place, McNair's head had to be re-constructed, money missing from him. unfortunately, we are unable to discuss this matter, so unless you manifest a change, this is my last transmission of information.
@hajable9 no I cannot manifest a change as I still want you to provided evidence to your claims.
But it is good this is your "last transmission of information" as we both know you are unable to discuss this matter further, because I caught you out falsely claiming or lying many things without evidence like you such as you worked with the court systems and researching many cases even those you opportunity to provided this evidence.
Ppl should b w/the 1 they luv n spite of color, as a woman of color (woc), I believe that men of color (moc) was brainwashd 2 believe that there is nothing positive or endearing about woc. It was embedded n moc not 2 marry woc cause we dont fit n2 their status quo and wnoc do, NOT. Woc r loyal, intelligent,strong,lovng,etc. If moc wont c that woc manifest such pizzazz that is innate n whom we r then how will some1 not of color. Woc have been demoralized & wnoc have been idolized.
Not attempting to be macabre. I don't believe the young lady did it. Role playing, imagine you have a gun and you shoot somebody on the right side of their head and then the left side and then the chest. You would have had to move McNair's body to the different positions to be shot. Then after that you are going to sit next to him put his body in place and then shoot yourself in the head. Yep, If Kazemi murdered McNair than cows do truly tiptoe on the moon.
Are you dumb or what?? That girl shot him because McNair had plenty of gunshots wounds... she had one in the head... btw, the door was lock, stupid ass!!
listen, now, if he was awake, maybe scenario plausible, but McNair was sleep according to reports. Then after being shot, she shoots herself in the head. Many more times than not, women don't shoot themselves in the head. She surely would have noticed what McNair looked like after being shot in the head before shooting her ownself in the head. FYI, I stated I don't believe she shot him or herself. I have a right to believe what I believe until conclusive proof is provided. Thank you very much
@kwvaussie controverting my viewpoint is very valid, I overlooked to gather more info, unfortunately, unable to retract statement. a valid lesson has been re-emphasized to me, do more thorough fact consideration before expressing a position. Thank you, for making me more aware and for the lesson learned. Peace.
@kwvaussie one thing we can do is thoroughly read the details of the account of the incident and then literally self re-enact or with others re-enact what took place. You will be highly surprised if you do this for many incidents. Once again, take care.
@hajable9 if you read the comments thoroughly from you, are you suprised that we still haven't seen any conclusive proof to your claims that "women don't shoot themselves in the head"?
@kwvaussie from working with the court systems and researching many cases, women have a low probability of shooting themselves in the head. Also, provide this answer, do you possess sufficient information about the Steve McNair Case, have you done a self re-enactment, did you know she was right-handed.
@hajable9 did you are going on and on claiming things without evidence and this time claims you worked with the court systems and researching many cases.
So don't you think you either put the evidence to your claims or being proven you are lying?
this was an opportunity for us to elevate and to have a written discussion, if you allow this, this is an opportunity for you and I to grow, strengthening our fact reasoning abilities. I stated logical information unto you. The young woman, if this was true, was a first time shooter, 5 shots to take place, McNair's head had to be re-constructed, money missing from McNair. we are unable to discuss this matter, so unless you manifest a change, this is my last transmission of information.
@Domini478 in order to suppose whether someone is dumb or what, you have to be intelligent. I avoid going for the first line story unless their is evidence to support it. Are you able to read the details of the tragic incident and then go through a step by step process to simulate, re-enact the situations. Do it, let me know your results. Pretend you are sleep, you got shot, then be the shooter, and do the steps. Once again, let me know.
@hajable9 There was nobody that came from the house when he got shot...the gun was near her and she had one gun shot wound...he had multiple gunshot wounds...btw, who cares??? The man is dead! Let it go!
@Domini478 see you prove my point, your view is unfortunately limited. you may be right, but if you are incorrect, a murderer is still on the loose. I say re-enactment, very easy to do, is the thing to do, you can do this by yourself, but at last, it is a difficult thing to do, prove me wrong. People's lives depend upon them trying things, testing things, if trying and testing things were avoided we would have many voids in our life. Besides many times in history, unknown killers revealed. Peace
@Domini478 injustice is unable to be quiet. avoid a double standard. If she is innocent it is injustice for her to bear the responsibility of this crime. plus, high probability a double killer is on the loose still.
where forth did this kind of language arise from. here fore, I fell to understand. you realize the past, present, and future matter. you have to cease drinking in the dead sea, it causes one to have a bitter tongue. obviously, you are unfamiliar with the details of the crime scene, degrees, angles, and weights. as we are unable to elevate this discussion, we can terminate our conversations. you have your opinion, i have my facts.
R.I.P steve mcnair when i heard this i almost cried!!!! Also i heard in the news tat they caght the suspect im happy they caught him and i feel sorry for his famly GOod luck to steves family love u all!
Are you dumb or what?? That girl shot him because McNair had plenty of gunshots wounds... she had one in the head... btw, the door was lock, stupid ass!!
This poor confused young woman is just another victim of the current fad making it fashionable to go after gangsta badboy types,she probably felt ashamed and humiliated by this ape who very likely could throw some footballs and run real fast but couldnt even spell his own name.Hopefully women learn from this
I have heard them say that they found gunpowder residue on her hands. Your comment was 5 days ago, so this may an update that you did not hear at the time.
i read another article,it said that they contacted the 20 year old's ex boyfriend maybe in a possible love triangle but there's no way it could've been murder-suicide because the article said that the gun was under her body not next to so it has to be double homicide for sure
Death Theory: McNair met Shaleh Kazemi at Dave & Busters in TN. Then befriended her and started an intimate relationship together. He promised her a new car (Escalade), Money and Trips. A few months later both got caught DUI and car was registered under both names (media will find out)...McNair panic...called off the relationship...she got mad and the she killed him and herself....case closed!
sad story, people should learn not to have a girlfriend when you are married or not to let someone on, promising her things, nobody is perfect . everybody has problems, he probably wanted to brush her off, people cant play with other people's emotions. RIP, steve "air" mcnair
"While police have not officially labeled the shootings a murder-suicide, they are only investigating the evidence they have collected and awaiting the results of tests. They are reportedly not looking for suspects.
The police are running additional tests to determine whether or not Kazemi's death matches that of a suicide.
They have not labeled her death a suicide yet but if their tests prove conclusive, the case will likely be closed."
it's obvious if the gun was UNDER the woman it was a murder suicide she killed him because the girl probably said me or her (his wife) and she probably got mad and killed him she has the motive
I was never a huge Titans fan, but I always respected McNair and what he did on the football field. His friends and family will be in our thoughts, and may he rest in peace.
steve...I thank u for paving the way for qbs like daunte cullpepeer and donavan mcnabb to show tha african-american qbs can throw and scramble and still be great qbs....by the way i agree that the girl probably went crazy and shot mcnair and then killed herself because he wanted to end the affair..but steve u were and will always be a true warrior and an nfl icon..my prayers go out to the mcnair family...R.I.P. Air McNair..
Well, all the respect to McNair. He was more like Warren Moon. He had a brain. Culpeper and McNabb have great physical talent, but they are stupid as hell. Black has nothing to do with it. Stupid people can't do much with physical talent - hence Michael Vick. Black QB's only succeed if they are smart. End of story.
The guy was cheating on his wife but nobody wants to talk about that. Everybody wants to talk about what a great player he was? The guy turned his back on being a leader and leading his family. I feel sorry for his wife and kids- not Mcnair.
Wow I was in shock when I read the headlines about McNair. He was one of my fav Qbs in the nfl. He was a tru warrior and will always be remembered as a Titan.....R.I.P McNair
holtzman's probably been at that police station most of the day. it was a minor slipup on his part.
the second mention is from the police spokesperson, and is the one that most of the media is running with, and i'm fairly sure in other updates holtzman got it right.
U.S. Sen. SamuEL JAMES erVIN's assigned 578-52-3300 is easy to find in the index. The same can’t be said for the owner of 241-31-9509 (who died on 4/23/08--the 23rd anniversary of erVIN’s death) because the surname is misspelled in the database, omitting a second “I”. Unrelated to Saint Valentine or same-sex coupling: slain NFL QB Steve McNair (426-37-9322) was born on FEB. 14, 1973--the 31st birthday one with a matching surname in the database, HERman WIGGNS (Louisiana issued 439-54-0801)
GWhiz99 11 months ago
Didn't this happen during The 4th of July, 2009?
I believe this is the only sports-related death/murder to happen on the 4th of July!
sportsguruisme 1 year ago
Didn't this happen during The 4th of July, 2009?
sportsguruisme 1 year ago
WHY do people continue to claim they have facts, but when you ask them to provided evidence they abuse, lie, change the issue or in the case of hajable9 saying they won't reply anymore proving they have been caught out lying in that they had NO facts.
kwvaussie 1 year ago
Deleting my message to you in your comment box in your Channel scare of facing the truth hajable9?
kwvaussie 1 year ago
kwvaussie was an opportunity for us to elevate,to have a written discussion, if you allow this, this an opportunity for you and I to grow, strengthening our fact reasoning abilities. I stated logical information unto you. young woman, if this was true, was a first time shooter, 5 shots to take place, McNair's head had to be re-constructed, money missing from him. unfortunately, we are unable to discuss this matter, so unless you manifest a change, this is my last transmission of information.
hajable9 1 year ago
@hajable9 no I cannot manifest a change as I still want you to provided evidence to your claims.
But it is good this is your "last transmission of information" as we both know you are unable to discuss this matter further, because I caught you out falsely claiming or lying many things without evidence like you such as you worked with the court systems and researching many cases even those you opportunity to provided this evidence.
kwvaussie 1 year ago
sad case messing with that stupid ass iranian chic plus she wasn't even that cute, i would not have even wasted my time with that skank.
KBoogs719 2 years ago
Ppl should b w/the 1 they luv n spite of color, as a woman of color (woc), I believe that men of color (moc) was brainwashd 2 believe that there is nothing positive or endearing about woc. It was embedded n moc not 2 marry woc cause we dont fit n2 their status quo and wnoc do, NOT. Woc r loyal, intelligent,strong,lovng,etc. If moc wont c that woc manifest such pizzazz that is innate n whom we r then how will some1 not of color. Woc have been demoralized & wnoc have been idolized.
swatangelofc 2 years ago
Not attempting to be macabre. I don't believe the young lady did it. Role playing, imagine you have a gun and you shoot somebody on the right side of their head and then the left side and then the chest. You would have had to move McNair's body to the different positions to be shot. Then after that you are going to sit next to him put his body in place and then shoot yourself in the head. Yep, If Kazemi murdered McNair than cows do truly tiptoe on the moon.
hajable9 2 years ago
Are you dumb or what?? That girl shot him because McNair had plenty of gunshots wounds... she had one in the head... btw, the door was lock, stupid ass!!
Domini478 2 years ago
oh im sorry dude i really diddnt know
cookiefan550 2 years ago
listen, now, if he was awake, maybe scenario plausible, but McNair was sleep according to reports. Then after being shot, she shoots herself in the head. Many more times than not, women don't shoot themselves in the head. She surely would have noticed what McNair looked like after being shot in the head before shooting her ownself in the head. FYI, I stated I don't believe she shot him or herself. I have a right to believe what I believe until conclusive proof is provided. Thank you very much
hajable9 2 years ago
@hajable9 surely you would have noticed we don't see any evidence to your claims that "women don't shoot themselves in the head"?
kwvaussie 1 year ago
@kwvaussie controverting my viewpoint is very valid, I overlooked to gather more info, unfortunately, unable to retract statement. a valid lesson has been re-emphasized to me, do more thorough fact consideration before expressing a position. Thank you, for making me more aware and for the lesson learned. Peace.
hajable9 1 year ago
@hajable9 @hajable9 surely you would have noticed we don't see any conclusive proof to your claims that "women don't shoot themselves in the head"?
kwvaussie 1 year ago
@kwvaussie one thing we can do is thoroughly read the details of the account of the incident and then literally self re-enact or with others re-enact what took place. You will be highly surprised if you do this for many incidents. Once again, take care.
hajable9 1 year ago
@hajable9 if you read the comments thoroughly from you, are you suprised that we still haven't seen any conclusive proof to your claims that "women don't shoot themselves in the head"?
kwvaussie 1 year ago
@kwvaussie from working with the court systems and researching many cases, women have a low probability of shooting themselves in the head. Also, provide this answer, do you possess sufficient information about the Steve McNair Case, have you done a self re-enactment, did you know she was right-handed.
hajable9 1 year ago
@hajable9 did you are going on and on claiming things without evidence and this time claims you worked with the court systems and researching many cases.
So don't you think you either put the evidence to your claims or being proven you are lying?
PS You have been blocked and you know why.
kwvaussie 1 year ago
this was an opportunity for us to elevate and to have a written discussion, if you allow this, this is an opportunity for you and I to grow, strengthening our fact reasoning abilities. I stated logical information unto you. The young woman, if this was true, was a first time shooter, 5 shots to take place, McNair's head had to be re-constructed, money missing from McNair. we are unable to discuss this matter, so unless you manifest a change, this is my last transmission of information.
hajable9 1 year ago
@Domini478 in order to suppose whether someone is dumb or what, you have to be intelligent. I avoid going for the first line story unless their is evidence to support it. Are you able to read the details of the tragic incident and then go through a step by step process to simulate, re-enact the situations. Do it, let me know your results. Pretend you are sleep, you got shot, then be the shooter, and do the steps. Once again, let me know.
hajable9 1 year ago
@hajable9 There was nobody that came from the house when he got shot...the gun was near her and she had one gun shot wound...he had multiple gunshot wounds...btw, who cares??? The man is dead! Let it go!
Domini478 1 year ago
@Domini478 see you prove my point, your view is unfortunately limited. you may be right, but if you are incorrect, a murderer is still on the loose. I say re-enactment, very easy to do, is the thing to do, you can do this by yourself, but at last, it is a difficult thing to do, prove me wrong. People's lives depend upon them trying things, testing things, if trying and testing things were avoided we would have many voids in our life. Besides many times in history, unknown killers revealed. Peace
hajable9 1 year ago
@hajable9 stfu! and get off McNair's dick! He is dead and there is no more use of talking about him!
Domini478 1 year ago
@Domini478 injustice is unable to be quiet. avoid a double standard. If she is innocent it is injustice for her to bear the responsibility of this crime. plus, high probability a double killer is on the loose still.
hajable9 1 year ago
Respond to this video...
where forth did this kind of language arise from. here fore, I fell to understand. you realize the past, present, and future matter. you have to cease drinking in the dead sea, it causes one to have a bitter tongue. obviously, you are unfamiliar with the details of the crime scene, degrees, angles, and weights. as we are unable to elevate this discussion, we can terminate our conversations. you have your opinion, i have my facts.
hajable9 1 year ago
R.I.P steve mcnair when i heard this i almost cried!!!! Also i heard in the news tat they caght the suspect im happy they caught him and i feel sorry for his famly GOod luck to steves family love u all!
cookiefan550 2 years ago 3
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Are you dumb or what?? That girl shot him because McNair had plenty of gunshots wounds... she had one in the head... btw, the door was lock, stupid ass!!
Domini478 2 years ago
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moucetube 2 years ago
R.IP. sean taylor and steve mcnair
CVUEVikingfan28 2 years ago 7
if hell existed,lol
carro1l 2 years ago 2
Hell does not exist :)
theshadowify 2 years ago
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This poor confused young woman is just another victim of the current fad making it fashionable to go after gangsta badboy types,she probably felt ashamed and humiliated by this ape who very likely could throw some footballs and run real fast but couldnt even spell his own name.Hopefully women learn from this
joefirstclass 2 years ago
RIP Steve, you will be missed! Really sad to hear this. Feel bad for his family!
JPPT1974 2 years ago
authorities never did say whether or not they found gunpowder residue on either of the woman's hands or wrist. what's up with that?
hotrod1ra 2 years ago
they did find the residue
socsco17 2 years ago
I have heard them say that they found gunpowder residue on her hands. Your comment was 5 days ago, so this may an update that you did not hear at the time.
theshadowify 2 years ago
i always wondered y people say rest in peace ,wat else r u going to do when youre dead
jamesbond504 2 years ago
He reminded me of Donovan McNabb.
corharoo 2 years ago
No "hey yo" from Steve Levy? I thought he was the king of cool. What is cooler than "hey yo"?
ts5765 2 years ago
Mcnair is a ex nfl qb i understand that he is kind of old but i would get a better looking 20 year old mistress.
Jamalama123 2 years ago
What's with all these deaths lately?
wolf15 2 years ago
i read another article,it said that they contacted the 20 year old's ex boyfriend maybe in a possible love triangle but there's no way it could've been murder-suicide because the article said that the gun was under her body not next to so it has to be double homicide for sure
RIP STEVE AIR MCNAIR
bcherefosho 2 years ago
Play with fire eventually you will get burned.
Jacobrester 2 years ago
he told her he was going back to his family. the DUI did not help. when he told her that, she cancelled his account and hers too. amen. R.I.P.
ezs121 2 years ago
I live in Nashville and its pretty much case closed...she killed him.
repo92376 2 years ago
RIP
steveerwin2 2 years ago
ok so who cares?
nissanxterra 2 years ago
Death Theory: McNair met Shaleh Kazemi at Dave & Busters in TN. Then befriended her and started an intimate relationship together. He promised her a new car (Escalade), Money and Trips. A few months later both got caught DUI and car was registered under both names (media will find out)...McNair panic...called off the relationship...she got mad and the she killed him and herself....case closed!
DJLoressa13 2 years ago
Im thinking the same. Good call.
jokebooks 2 years ago
weren't they seen in public together a few times?
billywild1028 2 years ago
20 year old girl who thought she meant more to him.. you're right..
scab112 2 years ago
watch my video R.I.P Steve McNair
MovieMakingGuru 2 years ago
Live by it die by it . RIP Player
dirtyred423 2 years ago
sad story, people should learn not to have a girlfriend when you are married or not to let someone on, promising her things, nobody is perfect . everybody has problems, he probably wanted to brush her off, people cant play with other people's emotions. RIP, steve "air" mcnair
9568675309 2 years ago
rip McNair...
paulkimlax 2 years ago
"While police have not officially labeled the shootings a murder-suicide, they are only investigating the evidence they have collected and awaiting the results of tests. They are reportedly not looking for suspects.
The police are running additional tests to determine whether or not Kazemi's death matches that of a suicide.
They have not labeled her death a suicide yet but if their tests prove conclusive, the case will likely be closed."
SmoothnSavvy 2 years ago
HAHA. DUde...LOL
AmericanDominance 2 years ago
sad, he was a gud QB
alonzo036 2 years ago
This story sickens me, so sad
DancetotheMusicxxx 2 years ago
LOL
msm318 2 years ago
Condolences to Steve McNair's family.
MrExnihilo 2 years ago 8
it's obvious if the gun was UNDER the woman it was a murder suicide she killed him because the girl probably said me or her (his wife) and she probably got mad and killed him she has the motive
24mvpkobebryant 2 years ago
24mvpkobebryand
It it's so obvious, why are the detectives runnning test?
SmoothnSavvy 2 years ago
Correction
24mvpkobebryant
If it's so obvious, why are the detectives running test, then?
SmoothnSavvy 2 years ago
RIP Mcnair. Your one the Best to ever play in the NFL.
joeskater88 2 years ago
r.i.p 2 da real houston oiler
3RDWARDGANGSTAR 2 years ago
I was never a huge Titans fan, but I always respected McNair and what he did on the football field. His friends and family will be in our thoughts, and may he rest in peace.
gigem2013 2 years ago
every one is dying
first michael
farrah fawcett
the manager from the beetals
and now
steve mcnair
all in 1 week i feel sorry for all those people dying
24mvpkobebryant 2 years ago
and billy mays from the oxi clean commercial.... RIP
felixblaze5 2 years ago
that was shocking 2002 mvp
may him rest him peace great titan
mkeywork 2 years ago
steve...I thank u for paving the way for qbs like daunte cullpepeer and donavan mcnabb to show tha african-american qbs can throw and scramble and still be great qbs....by the way i agree that the girl probably went crazy and shot mcnair and then killed herself because he wanted to end the affair..but steve u were and will always be a true warrior and an nfl icon..my prayers go out to the mcnair family...R.I.P. Air McNair..
reile567 2 years ago
Well, all the respect to McNair. He was more like Warren Moon. He had a brain. Culpeper and McNabb have great physical talent, but they are stupid as hell. Black has nothing to do with it. Stupid people can't do much with physical talent - hence Michael Vick. Black QB's only succeed if they are smart. End of story.
msm318 2 years ago 3
a true Titan, RIP McNair
djr823 2 years ago
The guy was cheating on his wife but nobody wants to talk about that. Everybody wants to talk about what a great player he was? The guy turned his back on being a leader and leading his family. I feel sorry for his wife and kids- not Mcnair.
LL07 2 years ago
Wow I was in shock when I read the headlines about McNair. He was one of my fav Qbs in the nfl. He was a tru warrior and will always be remembered as a Titan.....R.I.P McNair
SpeedyGonzo86 2 years ago
I can't believe it damn he was one of my favs RIP
sean301975 2 years ago
This is very saddening.... R.I.P Steve McNair.
FooNirbreakingstapp 2 years ago
tommy. it doesnt really matter. what really matters is that the world lost one of the best NFL players
Dajoker069 2 years ago
hmmmm at 1:18 he says she had 1 gunshot wound on her chest but then at 1:56 he says she had a 1 gunshot wound to the head.
tommy7113 2 years ago
holtzman's probably been at that police station most of the day. it was a minor slipup on his part.
the second mention is from the police spokesperson, and is the one that most of the media is running with, and i'm fairly sure in other updates holtzman got it right.
eljefereal 2 years ago
Polygamy is only a problem for those little minds that are brainwashed and imprisoned with the christian religious rubbish.
Polygamy was the least of McNair's problems, even though polygamy is not immune to the flaw of jealousy
Obviously McNair was not wise in the choosing of mates.
If the wife is older, that would be a fundamental flaw.
So the wife was of the wrong age and the 'other woman' was of the wrong ethnicity.
Those are 'jock'/poor choices; and they were unfortunate
nirbija 2 years ago
i am a little sceptical about that 20 yr. old girl
DFoRDeVoUr 2 years ago
Bless him
SB20Champions 2 years ago
I still cannot believe it. RIP
jackr2010 2 years ago
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hahahaahaha lol
TheFlamingoShakes 2 years ago
wow...
Vadenlol 2 years ago
just like everyone else R.I.P
hbkhhh21 2 years ago
RIP AIR MCNAIR
SmokinBluntzzz 2 years ago
R.I.P. Great QB.
zkhproductions 2 years ago
so sad...
SportsFan6192 2 years ago
McNair was one of the best qb's of this decade. I dont get how anybody could do this to such a nice guy.. RIP McNair.
Americalovesme2008 2 years ago
RIP Steve
Gerald411 2 years ago
RIP Steve McNair. This is unbelievable
nm878889 2 years ago
R.I.P steve mcnair
tannererwine 2 years ago
well u r a grl/women. only some girls/women havent heard of this dude.thats alright though
tannererwine 2 years ago
RIP Air Mcnar
smalichic 2 years ago
R.I.P. Steve. We loved watching you on Sundays
jacktheripper300 2 years ago
Never wish death on anyone... not even T.O.
R.I.P. Steve
allbowdown384 2 years ago 5
R.I.P Steve
JimisJames 2 years ago 2
r.i.p. air mcnair.
kizzlefershizzle 2 years ago 2
RIP Steve McNair.
MikeyM331 2 years ago 3
R.I.P Steve Mcnair one of the greatest football quarterbacks that ever played and the world has ever seen prayers go out to his family and friends
kobeisamonster24 2 years ago 4
That's not cool.
cowboysfanatic100 2 years ago 3
rest in peace Steve McNair
ballz33cheez 2 years ago 4