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  • HDSTARCRAFT, what do you use to record these???

  • Wow HD you have gotten so much more exciting. BTW They have this video on the wikipedia definition of stalkers. So good job

  • @Hu6CityRidah That's how I came here :P

  • Saw an Idra game under 10 minutes, already knew who won..

  • Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the purpose of the game to win it ?.

    If true then DrunkBobby played it perfectly.

    If not, then please explain what the purpose is.

  • @robertgeorg Ya, the purpose of the game is to win it indeed. But the problem with DrunkBobby in this game was that he didn't know Idra was still a n00b and he didn't know how strong Roaches and Lings are against Stalkers, but he still went for blink nonetheless. In my opinion, DrunkBobby got lucky this game, because if those Roaches and Lings had better micro, then those Stalkers would be pwned, so DrunkBobby actually won because of his Naivety, not because he was playing perfectly.

  • @JoJothepunisher thats not true at all u go blink against a roach ling mix.... the survivability is worth it if u dont over commit

  • @robertgeorg the purpose is to get a big, and when i say big I mean a very big dick and shove it up ur mum's ass and rape the fuck out of her.

  • @ThePsionicMatrixTM Shit, that means I've lost every single game. I'd better start practicing offline. Thank you for the amazing advice, good sir.

  • Cheese isn't always all-in; I'm mainly talking about DT "rushes" (which are so easily scouted btw), which can hit the 5-6 minute mark push, yet if failed, Toss can usually continue to play normally (unless they did nothing but continue to create an army of DTs and wait for the opponent to push with a simple scout (DTs are pretty weak against most non-worker units).

  • @megapunchx2 Correct, altough I'de love to see you do a DT rush that arrives at the 5 minute (in-game timer) mark. The earliest you can get them is 6:30-ish with 4 gates, perhaps 20 seconds earlier with 3. And this is without getting any defences wich is as good as impossible in a ladder game, so usually a DT rush will arrive between 7 and 8 mins.

  • IdrA is god, I never miss a game of his.

  • nice !!!

  • "we almost never see games where players research blink." old sc2 is hilarious

  • I'm new, what does cheese mean? :P

  • @Jonemode A strategy which relies on chance, cheap tactics and your opponent making oversights. Protoss cheese is cannon rush, which can easily be countered if you scout it, but is almost overpowered if you don't see it. Zerg's main cheese is 6/7/9 pool, which is quite easy to wall off against. Terran doesn't have much earlygame cheese but has very powerful marine/SCV all ins and can bunker rush Zergs.

  • @AresExodus have you ever played a game called starcraft 2?

  • @VOZZIFY Yes. I have played several hundred games.

  • @Jonemode faggots that know they can't win in a striaght up macro game fight rush you with marines, stalkers e.t.c to get an early, win as they know they will be destoryed if the play the game the way it should be played, non more than the gracken, idra is like a nightmare with the swarm, drunkbobby has no skill and is retarded.

  • @Lee67734 yet another Idra fan giving him a bad name because of his excessive blabbering. Idra's good one of the best, this video was for educational purposes of how Blink can be used for aggression. its was a good move by drunkbobby. and as for him being retarded. you'd lose to him in a game so doesnt that make you even more retarded? GG WP.

  • @Lee67734 lol... that blink play is far from all in forcing a zerg to build units over drones ius a must in the match up.... u cant beat zerg in a macro game letting zerg do what they want u have to make them react to u... he choose tec and used it and in this game here it broke idra but it seems like this is so old idra probably never saw it before and idra sucks at thinking on the spot to new things

  • @Lee67734 your probably one of those bronze noobs that i rush with stalkers and they ask me to stop attacking and wait. your trash dude.

  • @Dimitri1221XxX fuck you retard, you need to take that cock out of your mouth faggot.

  • me and my friend just played our placement match against idrA :S

  • @smakke87 IdrA doesn't do team games. It was probably a poser.

  • @FyreSpyke Ye thats what i thought but still for a sec i was a bit scared :)

  • back when blink was madly op

  • impressive

    

  • dat micro

  • @binzjim who fuck cares?

  • what is cheese?

  • @ughduhful A food made from the pressed curds of milk.

  • @ughduhful cheese means cheesy tactics: those are tactics where one player exploits a strength of his race to prevent the other player from develloping. typical cheese: protoss cannon rush. very early zergling push (6pool) early terran reaper harassment ...

  • @sidekick1024 early terran reaper harassment isnt cheese. Cheese are all-in tactics where u hope to have ur opponent off guard and win the game easily, and if u dont suceed u lose, reaper harassment isnt all-in

  • Please don't cast any games of IDRA ever. He's too rude and never shows any respect to his opponents. There are hundreds of awesome players out there, why should we watch games from such a piece of trash like IDRA?

  • @binzjim cause he's too dang good , i get some of my strats from watching this guy play

  • @lock3dgat3s yeah same whenever i feel like being bm, i always think... what would Idra say? and guess what it works! never failed to be bm i couldn't have done it w/o you idra!

  • @binzjim because he is one of the best and you can't beat him

  • heyy but this was a gg :D

  • ughh i swear 9/10 matches are on lost temple.

  • woah... one of the first cases of blink micro :O This video will go down in history

  • April 2010.

    Holy shit, if it weren't for TeamLiquid[DOT]net, I'd have never seen this haha

  • whoa.. fast map nice game

  • WHATS CHEESE AND MICRO?

  • @kukukai1 cheese refers to builds that are usually all-in or a rush, 6 pool, 2 racks etc. micro is moving your units around to avoid take damage, blink micro is still very popular.

  • @BixZsc thanks

  • @kukukai1 macro is controlling a whole bunch of units on a large scale, as opposed to controlling just a handful of units very precisely, for a small raid for example.

    Cheese is like trying to get a really quick win, like an early zealot rush if you are unprepared is nigh on impossible to win against.

  • @CowHoofOnAHotPlate

    Your definition of macro is wrong. Macro is all the mechanics of the game (building buildings, units, expanding). It's basically your economy and your tech tree.

    Micro is using your units in battle. Keeping them alive, position them, etc.

  • @lAimlHighDef ah ok.. thanks for correcting me. I knew macro had something to do with large scale, overview style gameplay but I guess I must have got something mixed up lol.

  • @lAimlHighDef ah ok.. thanks for correcting me. I knew macro had something to do with large scale, overview style gameplay but I guess I must have got something mixed up lol.

  • whats cheese

  • protoss is op

  • @satyerhunter This whole game is OP :D

  • I have a question.....i've been watching HD's vids for awhile but i have no clue what the APM tab is. Can somone tell me?

  • @MultiScando

    Actions per minute

  • For all those nubs saying that this is not cheese...

    Let's define cheese shall we?

    Cheese is used to gain an advantage over your opponent by a surprise attack that 100% of the time is an all in which means that the player that is cheesing either win or lose with the force that he has (alternative cannons).

    Now, if the protoss would have lost all of his stalkers that would then result in a direct loss and IdrA would've automatically won the game.

    Noobs.

  • Idras kryptinite is cheese? LOL DONT EAT THE CHEESE IDRA!

  • for all of you average players cheese is another way to say early push or all in early agression that 4 gate push is pretty standart and i find it hard to hold of as zerg too so ya 4 gate is cheese as hell

  • The players are going to be DrunkBobby....

    ok im leaving

  • At first I was thinking "Uh, HD, are you high? Blink is a really common upgrade and blink micro is nothing new."

    Then I checked the upload date.

  • HD is so damn obsessed with the APM tab. I'd rather learn from pros by seeing what they are producing, and at what supply and time.

  • how should he have properly defended against that?

  • Haha, blink micro before it was cool :P

  • it's really not that hard to play with health bars on.... it's pretty much just cheese

  • @Xero555000 This is so old lol. Blink is fairly for toss. It makes or breaks battles depending on how you use it. Anyone who thinks blink is cheese need to gtfo and get a reality check. IdrA needs to gg. He played bad. A couple of hotkeys and splitting up speed lings will destroy pure blink stalkers.

  • average micro

  • idra u suck

  • What were these, tournament things or just... random matches that he recorded? o, O

  • Using Pylon + Warp is not cheese... as lifting buildings and making a creep highway also not cheese...

  • @Gladomain1 using proxy pylons is diff cheesing, OFC you where never suppose to build your BASE BUILDINGS in closer to the enemy base then your own; its a cheap trick that only works due to shitty balance and tactic issues in sc2; sc2 is more about luck then actual skill untill you get pass the 15-20min mark,

  • @Erebus2075 Do you even play this game? So 99% (the other 1% is are newbs) of protoss cheese? You must QQ after every protoss game then.

  • @Erebus2075 "sc2 is more about luck then actual skill untill you get pass the 15-20min mark" I should have not bother replying. I didn't know I was replying to a NR 15 MIN noob.

  • That Beautiful micro. And a proxy pylon is not Cheese. it just cuts the reinforcement travel distance.

  • im just watching this now, but i gotta say. HD's voice sounds so much better is his new vids :$

  • i havnt been in the SC2 scean for very long... was this kind of micro considered very very good a year ago? i do this whenever i get stalkers... not that mine is AS good but its still the same basis

  • it's so hard to find a ZvsZ match with IdrA..

  • IdrA is such a lame guy... Good player but as a man - he's a failure.

  • if he just speedling harassed b4 warpgate tech was out he wuda raped the guy, the other dude didnt even make a sentrie.

  • what is a a cheese gale?

  • Fuck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • OMG i just thought of the best anti 6 pool tactic, now just say u scouted a lil early and you see he has 6 drones and a pool that has just started, couldnt you just bring all ur drones and attack his drones

  • how do u win against micro like that, i mean you have to kill his army twice including reinforcemnetns twcie too

  • @FishTurd69 Infestors

  • @dragdritt yeah i just thought of them after i posted this XP

  • @dragdritt I would crap myself if you are actually capable of teching up to infestors, while retaining an actual army within the first 5-6 minutes of a game.

  • he bitches over getting cheesed..then gets out-micro'd. awesome.

  • @Roxorsgamers I think an early game proxy pylon is a cheese, especially if you have a lot of gateways with blink stalkers z.z.

  • To all the Haters of egIdra just keep goin'! you spread the word about him he has more then the avg. amount of views because ppl expect him to get mad and fans or not ppl LOVE it, so company's will give him/his team money because its going to get thier name out there better than the rest. Idra is said to be the best Zerg player so the skill is there its a PERFECT combo. rofl Idra is the John McEnroe of starcraft popularity increases when you put on a good show.

  • This wasn´t micro victory for DrunkBobby (tough his micro is quite good) but a macro loss for Idra. He had main and natural expansion and still a Protoss army outnumbered him. And said Protoss only had his main. Speedlings could´ve taken out those Stalkers if it was something like 2:1 or 3:1 or more ratio for speedlings.

  • @Dendarang I appreciate your insight but i'd say it was a bit of both. :)

  • even with roaches with 2 armor idra no chance. Bobby has a micro of a drunk master :D

  • Cheese or not it doesnt matter.The fact that one won is most important.

  • Blink is pretty gay no doubt

  • idra no chance vs teh boob

  • yea the moment that proxy pylon went down, idra got put on the defensive, not a good thing for zerg at all

  • lol using unit's special abilities is cheese? Since when? Cheese is something unusual like canon rush or something, not using unit abilities:D

  • @MtGuyful nub, cheese is all in play, did you see a nexus get placed down? no.. = all in, cheese

  • @MtGuyful first of all your face is noob, second of all toss doesn't need to expand early like zerg does!! idiot

  • @MtGuyful Are you calling yourself a idiot? How wonderful! XD

  • @aMzNeoXist eat shit noobface :D

  • What else are you supposed to use blink for? Going up cliffs, no this is what it really is for

  • IMHO IdrA "rages" only to preserve his raging image, so he can have something to be acclaimed about. He's a good player, but I hold a grudge on his invariable playstyle, and at late game he usually spams a single type of unit, namely ultralisks, and then rages about the race imbalance seeing how they don't cut it for some reason.

  • let him fight spanishiwa so spanishiwa can rage him bout macro

  • IdrA is a typical american who wont accept defeat and congratulate his opponent. 

  • microing stalkers aint hard,,, to bad im terran x)

  • those stalkers raped

  • hi im kinda new to starcraft and he was saying 14 pool ans 15 hatch what does that mean please thank you.

  • @Blazingwheel the number is how many workers he has before making the building so at 14 drones he made a spawning pool and at 15 he made hatchery. its the how most build orders are described

  • @Mindarowongo thanks.

  • @Mindarowongo no dude.... the number is for supply

  • k im not a starcraft fan or anything, dont know who these people are just watching out of curiosity but what tha fuck is cheese and macro?

  • @Boycey2576 macro - economy managment. cheese - typical, all in move., that loses you the game if you don't pull it off

  • @Boycey2576 - Also 'cheese' is the name given to a 'cheesey build' or 'cheesey tactic' a tactic that is underhanded and risky to try and low blow you :)

  • how did he blink his stalkers like that; hotkey each 1 to a separate number??

  • @hotterThanU101 pff... it's called good micro

  • no vaseline, idra!

  • 1 base all in vs idra doesnt mean shit. Pft, look at this bobby guy now, he's a joke if he's even playing...

  • Idra only loses in replays ... He barley ever loses. Poeple only upload replays when they beat him. Even the best get beat. Look at boxer

  • Thumbs up if your watching this in 2011! :D

  • Not calling GG isn't BM , People over use GG and it has lost its meaning. This was NOT a GG, it was completely one sided.

  • @Calinmmmm I totally agree with you man!

  • @Calinmmmm People say GG as in to surrender. It is just polite. It is like saying GL HF at the start of the game, it is just being polite. If you want to say that the game was ACTUALLY a really good game, then say GG, (to surrender) then Really WP. or Very GG. Saying GG just signals your defeat.

  • Did he really lost to someone called DrunkBobby? -_-

  • He didn't get speedlings : \

  • awesome blinking ;D

  • idra was impatient, he should of waited for more lings to be made

  • That was some impressing micro, too bad Blink isn't used that often these days for a strat like this. I always love when Idra QQs before losing a game, but when he doesn't say anything and just leaves is priceless - then you really know you've owned him good! ^^

  • Research burrow. That is all.

  • Such a classic game. Helped popularize blink micro. The beta days were good when people were still figuring things out. ^^

  • That's not cheese. It is brilliant micro.

  • @Gunner3210 I don't understand what was impressive about his micro at all. It was good but nothing special.

  • @tunawrangler1 Well it was impressive enough to piss IdrA off and make him leave without a "gg".

  • @Gunner3210 IdrA won't gg no matter what...

  • @Gunner3210 No that was cheese. Anything proxy is cheese reject.

  • anyone tell me what 'cheese' means??

  • @kissmeimirish121 Cheap bullshit plays like the infamous 6 pool, or the fucking gay Cannon rush, and yes the retarded bunker rush

  • @kissmeimirish121 "Cheese" is basically a strategy or build that a players can follow in-game but is considered "cheap" because it is usualy sneaky and/or unfair. This, however, was not "cheese" because micro-ing your blink stalkers so well takes a ton of skill and practice.

  • Idra is weak against early attacks, if the early aattacks suceed Idra rages and loses, but in mid game and long game i hardly doubt that anyone would beat Idra and his master Macro.

  • I think i just beat Idra in a game.... his name was "EGIdrA" Can anyone explain to me how someone could have the same name? He always plays zerg, and the guy i played against was terran : /

  • @Enlightener57 imposter...there is the real EGIdrA...but he's like 4th GrandMasters and has like 500 wins zerg.

  • @xRequiem90x I knew he wasn't the real idra lol, but just was confused on names. I know who the real idra is, and the one i fought was terran. So clearly not him.

  • @Enlightener57 Different regions? IdrA plays on Asian servers, I think.

  • @Enlightener57 One name per server

  • @Enlightener57 you have a name and a three digit code, so people can have the same names

  • @Enlightener57 You can have the same name on one server because of the 3digit character code. And on differrent servers you can have the same names. You played a noob.

  • @Enlightener57 I'ts EGLdra. a smalll L... EGldrA < EGIdrA

  • @bobbelmouth people keep saying that but there are about 25 idras on the NA battle.net its the character code, eveyone on batle.net can have the same name if they wanted because you have a different character code

  • @Enlightener57 i think theres a character code so you can put any name you want :P

  • how is this in anyway "cheese"? That was just great micro

  • the problem with IdrA is that if he can stop the cheese he automatically wins, his macro is too good to lose an advantage like that. Once IdrA gets into middle or late game he becomes unstoppable

  • i think there is one thing that should be said .... this is great mikro skill ... not cheese ^^

  • hd's voice was so different

  • @ihavenousernamelol2 Than HuskyStarcrafts right?

  • @HavocCrusader

    than how hd sounds now

  • @ihavenousernamelol2 Oh....That's awkward :L

  • :)

  • I know this is a very newbish question, but what is "cheese"?

  • @Arciaga cheese is a strategy that involves using cheap tactics early on in the game. such as photon cannon rushing or spore crawling rushing. theres a number of different strategies.

  • @Arciaga This video is not one of them:)

  • man Idra is soo cool

  • is it "I - DRA" or "ID - RA" .... everyone pronounces it differently.

  • DrunkBobby is the sh1t. Crazy speed, IdrA got whooped.. IdrA is a dumb geek anyway.

  • @ThePrincessMeowMeow And you are...? A fucking spoiler.

  • Never played SC, don't think I'm going to try it anytime soon, yet I just CAN'T stop watching these replays just for the amusement watching idrA rage gives me.

  • ppl who say gg are nubs.

  • @foxclown ya your right, only pros ragequit lolz

  • IdrA.

    I hate that guy.

  • @Gunner3210 You're certainly in good company (not including myself). But I think people tend to hate IdrA because he often rages when he loses, and he is ALMOST ALWAYS loses in matches cast on YouTube. He is an excellent player, but he does share his replays, so when you see IdrA on YouTube he is usually beaten by the person who shared the replay. His wins on YouTube are 99% tournament play

  • @MrSh0time Yeah I agree he is a very good player. It is just that I hate that guy.

  • @Gunner3210 thnx for telling every1 this valuable information about how you hate someone more successful than urself. jealousy and hate

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  • @SwiftyKenzo Made my day :D

  • :)

  • woah that is one of the most op ways to win

  • hahaha geeks getting angry because another geek didnt say gg in a video game.