Your questions are excellent and I am glad to be able to answer them :)
The first mistake we all make regarding God is that we mentally create a false image of who He is.. the Bible clearly says that there are three that bare witness in heaven.. the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit and these three are one. Think of it this way.. you have a spirit, a mind and a body and while they are seperate, together they make up who you are... continued...
... however, your spirit, mind and body are actually in conflict with each other.. for example: as a Buddhist you want to meditate but your body is hungry so it sends a signal to your mind to interupt your meditation and you are no longer able to meditate... get my point? OK.. well the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit are in 100% perfect harmony and unison, so much so in fact, that they are one. While truly, you yourself are not, you are in conflict... continued...
3... God is not limited to time, space or matter either... whereas you are. The Bible says In the beginning was the Word and the word was with God and the Word was God... and that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld His glory (refering to Jesus)... At Jesus' baptism, the cloud desended and a voice came from the cloud saying "This is my Son in Whom I am well pleased and the Holy Spirit descended apon Him as a dove.. all 3 were present.. continued...
4... together, they are one. Now... since they are not limited to time, space or matter it is no effort on their part to be transcendent and or immanent... in fact, we see that very think happen at Jesus' baptism.
Question 2: In the beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter)... then He said (Word)
"Let Us (Father, Word and Holy Spirit) create man in Our image... He also created the Angels of whom Lucifer was one of them... continued...
5... now God knew that satan would sin and be the father of sin. God also knew that satan would lead Adam and Eve to sin. So how could God being Holy allow this?? This puzzled me at first too until I found the answer:
When God created Adam He said, ".. and let Us give man dominion over the earth".. interesting? Why?
Why did God give us the freedom to choose between good and evil and give us dominion over the earth?
Love... pure and simple. You see man had to have the choice free and clear whether or not to choose to love God.
It makes perfect sense really... would you rather have the love by choice of a spouse or a robot that you created that would do everything you programmed it to? God did not invent sin... satan did but God saw it as an opportunity for the free will of man to choose between God or satan, good or evil, love or hate.. continued...
7... Many people blame God for sin... remember.. God gave MAN dominion over the earth.. that means even above Himself man is in charge of the earth. We love to point the finger at God and blame Him for all the evil that happens here when in fact it is what we have brought about... however.. in His great love for us, He offered His Son as a sacrifice to pay for our filthy sins if we accept the offer... hope that helps. Even Buddha mentioned the coming of Jesus :)
@goldmisers I'm grateful for your approach from the Bible. I thought I might add a couple things from a philosophical standpoint.
"God is not limited to time, space, or matter" By definition God is not subject to anything. If any of these were over him then that would mean he wasn't truly God... a really strong being maybe, but not God.
I thought I might also add that evil is not a thing or a new creation. Rather it is merely a perversion of something that already exists, namely good.
Oh, this video is still up; I'm shocked. As I look back thought the comment this video has spawned I see that no one has answered my questions. I'm still waiting for a clean and logical answer.
@stewartminor stewart are you still attending UNT? I'll be up there (Lord willing) this Thursday. My husband and I have been going up to the university weekly. We'd love to talk with you this Thurs. What do ya say??
Answer #1 God is Ultra-Terrestrial and vibrates on a diff frequency than us. Hence putting him in an alternate dimension. hence making him invisible.
Answer #2 If love means you never let anyone make a mistake and rule their lives. Where does freedom come into play? Have you ever made a mistake? Should you be condemned for all time because of that mistake? What you want is someone who will tell you what to do...and then FORCE you to do it. God does the former not the later.
Answer #1 God is Ultra-Terrestrial and vibrates on a diff frequency than us. Hence putting him in an alternate dimension. hence making him invisible.
Answer #2 If love means you never let anyone make a mistake and rule their lives. Where does freedom come into play? Have you ever made a mistake? Should you be condemned for all time because of that mistake? What you want is someone who will tell you what to do...and then FORCE you to do it. God does the former not the later.
@stewartminor Q1 - Time is an invention of his. For him its like holding an object in his hand and interacting with it. From our perspective he is interacting with us on a daily basis. From His, he foreordained all of human history before the beginning of time.
@stewartminor Q2 - Does God cause all things to happen? He is sovereign, but gives us the ability to make choices. Why He allows us to make bad choices I can think of a number - He is loving and wont violate our will, He does not wish us to continue in darkness (our sin has separated us from him/real life), and he sees the end and will make all things right. Read Romans for more
I can say that without a God real evil does not exist and without choice I also fail to see how evil is relevant
For Stewart, For eveil and good to exist at the same time, God allows us to have a free will..Deuteronomy 28: 1-14 for space sake, God promises Blessings if you obey the Lord your God, Deuteronomy 28: 15-68 Promises Curses if you will not obey the Lord your God. For space Deuteronomy 30: this whole chapter shows that God says in Verse 19: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse..Watch accounts of near death experiences. accounts of going to Heaven and hell
hey trish if you get this great work in using the law and then the gospel to reach out to people. I believe if even just one person is telling someone about christ in this manner it will change the world. Keep on going sister in christ and spreading the gospel as I will and we will see God work!!! Bless you sister in christ!!! :) Keep strong!!! :)
Believe it or not i actually don't have any friends. This has benefited me in many ways, including but not limited to being self sufficient. There is presently nothing i know little of or am incapable of doing myself. I apologize for my angry comment. that was a year ago and im a different person now. The primary way ive changed is that im open to trying new things, such as having friends. I dont see why people would be opposed to that, seeing as im awesome at everything i do...
@j321234 Maybe I'm just hearing something that isn't there, but my personal experience leads me to ask... would you say having friends for the sake of having friends is difficult for you? Such as is it hard to imagine someone wanting to be around you just for you and not for what you can do?
So your saying that its not possible to keep the law of God.Then I guess Satan can come back to heaven.If you love Jesus you can't wait for the Sabbath Day to come so you can spend a whole day without a thought of secular or worldly affairs and have sweet rest and communion with God.We all have sinned but God calls us to be holy and have victory over sin through Christ Jesus in which all things are possible. GOD BLESS
I hope you don't mind me asking, but are you saying that Christians can keep the law? And I am not sure what you mean by mentioning the Sabbath. Would you please explain?
Nope. I've broken that, along with all the other commandments (lying, stealing, etc) but Jesus was able to keep the whole law and not stumble at any point.
once the sicence said the world was flat they were wrong but beleived they were correct
in the bible thousands of years ago that the world is round and hangs on nohing
if man can discover and use radio waves to be every where at once then the creator of the universe shurly can be what he says he is as he says that he dosent lie
Ok... but we can demonstrate that they exist. We can build machines that CAN see them.
"once the sicence said the world was flat"
??? No, the BIBLE said the Earth is flat and that it sits on pillars. Science discovered that it's round, which Christians still rejected for hundreds of years.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
This is a long while ago that you wrote this, I hope that you have found the answer to your strange interpretation of this verse. But if you look over toward the middle of it it says that "the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers". Here the use of hyperbole to simplify the deeper meaning is not uncommon in this type of literature within God's Word. The circle of the earth is not here being represented as flat, nor can it be used as a reference for a sphere, so there's no argument.
1. Irrelevant. But if god is omnipresent, then what is Hell?
2. Not possible. Epicurus figured that one out millennia ago. God made the world, right? And he knew exactly how it would turn out, right? And he could have made it any way he wanted, right? Do I have the power to contradict what he set up, or what he knows will happen? If not, then how could I have a choice? How could I be held accountable for anything?
The problem of evil is the first thing that led me toward disbelief.
1) You believe that bad things happen because we have free will, and that we choose to sin, correct? As I demonstrated above, that's not possible, but let's assume it's true. Then do we have free will in Heaven? Is Heaven full of evils and sin and plagues and disasters? Why then is the Earth?
2) If the universe was created with us in mind, then why is 99.9999999999999% of it empty space, dark matter, clouds of gas and black holes, all of which are lethal?
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, DepartG4198 from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
but man can go there for the same reasons the devil gose there
This would only make sense if 1) God didn't create me and was not omniscient (and therefore I had free will) 2) I could prove that laws actually existed, and that they were binding 3) If I had some say in what those laws were (democratic process, for instance)
It would never be moral for another person to accept responsibility for my wrongdoing, and I would never assent to human sacrifice (even though it wasn't really sacrifice) as a means to that end anyway.
If God exists, then my free will and therefore my responsibility does not. I have no choices if my future is already known to my creator.
I am, however, responsible to my fellow human beings, as they are the only conscious beings I know to exist, and my choices affect them.
I do not believe we are under such a celestial tyranny as the bible suggests, and I would not acknowledge or assent to its authority or my responsibility if we were.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
sir I FEAR FOR Your fate
whatever you beleive wont change what is true
how proud are you this confirms your father is the devil repent and be born again
What? Getting a phd in physics, living my life to the best of my ability, an then dying, hopefully a long time from now? Why is that scary? It sounds great!
"whatever you beleive wont change what is true"
That's why I only believe things that are true - that means not god.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
For, from the very creation of the world, His invisible perfections--namely His eternal power and divine nature--have been rendered intelligible and clearly visible by His works, so that these men are without excuse.
Sir You Have No Excuse
Repent Means Turn To God Your Maker The maker Of heven & Earh Turn Away From Sin Jesus The Name Above All Names
who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations."
just letting you know that your sin will also curse yor children what will you say to them when they ask why you caused all their problems
"just letting you know that your sin will also curse yor children"
This is why the Bible is ridiculously immoral and it would be horrible if it were true.
"what will you say to them when they ask why you caused all their problems"
You mean if I see them in hell? I'll explain the Problem of Free Will to them, proving that God is an evil sadistic asshole and there was nothing any of us could have done.
Hopefully they'll be smarter than you and I won't have to explain it.
"if he dose he is real if he dosent then he is not"
I did ask God to reveal himself to me. A long time ago. The silence was deafening.
"when there are laws there must be a lawmaker"
This is a different definition of "law". The physical laws are not arbitrary.
Even if the laws are due to an intelligent agency, then how is it that intelligence came to exist? Intelligence can't be the first cause. How would you know if it is aware of human life or cares, or even if it still exists now?
not just physical laws relating to life. but universal laws that deal with coherence for logic like being able to distinguish if those are meaningful statements you are making or are those non-meaningful statements you are making. if non-meaningful why are you even asking questions? if meaningful then the knowledge that exists must come from someone that is not subject to the limits of time and capacity in relation to knowledge. you must have an infinite reference point for unseen laws ie Logic
The transcendental argument is really weak, and it would only get you as far as Deism if it worked. No, physical laws are not bound to minds. Minds can only describe them. They are simply properties the universe has.
Besides, needing an infinite reference point for "unseen laws" (which are only really defined through their seen effects) is a law which itself would need another mind outside that other mind, ad infinitum.
You can't define something into existence with ambiguous wording.
Yep. It's south of Denton. If you're ever in the area shoot me an email. My husband (Emilio) and I would love to take you out for ice-cream, coffee, or whatever and talk about these things more. :-)
I know you're a student so I'm sure your totally busy but what do ya say??
There is substantial disagreement about just how serious the evidential problem of evil is. Your contention that "there are no serious thinkers who hold this problem" is not compelling and you are trying to dismiss it far to easily.
Suffice it to say we aren't going to solve it on youtube.
again, it only needs to be demonstrated that a greater good is plausible in the end. Since we don't know what could possibly result from allowing certain evil.
Again, Alvin Plantinga has sufficiently dealt with this and there are no serious thinkers who hold this problem.
So sorry for the spelling error--didn't know how to spell your name. :-) Thanks for posting comments here. I'm glad you stopped by. Did you get to check out the post on my blog yet and some of the comments??
If you have a problem with evil, and you have not repented of your sin and trusted Christ, then you have a problem with yourself because you ARE evil, by nature, and by your rebellion towards your creator.
God allows evil to exist, because if He did not, He would have to destroy the whole world (save the Christians) the world is evil (system opposed to God) it is in His mercy that He allows evil to continue and is longsuffering to those who have not believed yet and those who will not.
1) In the Book of Isaiah of the Old Testamen, there is a prophecy of things to come: Isaiah 61, verses 1-2 in particular. In the New Testamen in Luke chapter 4, verses17-20 Jesus did something remarkable... He left out a part of Isaiah's verse, and then he sat in Moses' seat.
Jesus did not repeat "The day of Vengence of our God" because that time is not yet. Therefore God will bring vengence and judgement for evil. He did at the cross, and He will in the end.
2) Did you know that everything God started in Genesis will perfectly end in Revelation?
Compare the first 3 chapters of Genesis and the last 3 chapters of Revelation and you will see that everything God started will end:
God created heaven and earth/ There will be a new heaven and earth. The darkness He called night/ There will be no night there. God made the sun and the moon/ The Heavenly city will not need the sun or the moon. The day you eat you shall die/ No death there. etc
3) Psalm chapter 18 verse 26 says, "With the pure you will show yourself pure; and with the fraudulent you will show yourself devious."
Stewart let me tell you what God is saying in the above verse. You want to play games with Him, and act like He isn't there. Well, He'll play games with you and give you reasons for not believing Him.
I know He is knocking on the door of your heart.
But, you are saying to God, "I hear you knocking but you can't come in."
The only thing that I can say is that God cannot place those limits upon himself that he does Humans...our 5 senses etc...if he were to make us exactly the same as He then wouldn't we be God? The laws of physics that apply to us cannot apply to a deity...we were made in His image but not exactly like Him...
POE (Problem of Evil) there are no philosophers who use this argument against the existence of God . A. Plantinga dealt in detail with it diffusing it sufficiently.
2 parts of the POE. The logical & emotional aspect. I suppose he is pointing to the logical . Logically there is no problem.
1 see above
2 it only needs be shown, it is plausible that a greater good is poss. as a result of the evil. (Perfect example: the cross. very evil; however it resulted in the salvation of millions)
he uses the transcendent nature of logic to argue against a transcendental being (God). If logic is not transcendental then it is subjective thus there is no logical problem. If logic is transcendental then it is universal and atheism is false.
He is arguing with presuppositions but his worldview cannot support those. He is using a Christian worldview that supports laws of logic and transcendental rules to support his own worldview.
Logic is the science of identifying what is and its converse: that which is cannot be what it is not. A rock on a world is a rock on a distant world even if humans cannot identify this axiom. This rock wouldn't cease to exist, or become a leaf if consciousness never came to be. It would be what it is. If god doesn't exist, logic remains non-subjective. Stop depending on gods for objectivity. Logic is a much better source.
We don't create laws of logic. Even if all the humans in the world came to a consensus that up is down and absurdity is reasonable, up wouldn't be down and absurdity wouldn't be reasonable. Laws of logic are ipso facto. Human acknowledgment of them does not necessitate their existence. Reality necessitates their existence, whether or not humans are left in the dark, ignoring them. You're putting the intellectual cart before the horse.
1) Who (or What) came before time/space is greater than time/space, because it can exist outside of time and space. It is not subject to the same restrictions that we are. We deduce our experiences using our 5 senses, and as such we are bound by them.
2) Evil, suffering, and other fun topics(excuse my sillyness):
In the book of Job we see that God never does answer Job. As a matter of fact God starts to ask Job some questions, such as "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth (Job chapter 38, verse 4)?" I know most people do not want to hear this, because we want answers. And the Big Man upstairs better give them to me to my satisfaction or I will be upset! (Usually thought by many, but said by few).
Yes, God invented time and space so God can traverse it. Secondly, the question of evil can only be asked if there is an ultimate standard for good and evil otherwise there is not evil. However, God can see the end from the beginning and has a Will that we do not know. Yet, although evil exists because of freewill God reconciled the evil within through his offering of Jesus Christ. The many evils will be ultimately judged and be dealt with on Judgment day. No evil will be forgotten.
1.Time and space are dimensions that God made; having made them implies that He would not have to be bound by something He made.
2.God does not want robots to serve Him, He gives us free choice. Should we choose to do evil (as we all have done), God is also rich in mercy and commands us to repent. This does not mean that evil will go unpunished; He has appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness.
Your questions are excellent and I am glad to be able to answer them :)
The first mistake we all make regarding God is that we mentally create a false image of who He is.. the Bible clearly says that there are three that bare witness in heaven.. the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit and these three are one. Think of it this way.. you have a spirit, a mind and a body and while they are seperate, together they make up who you are... continued...
goldmisers 3 months ago
... however, your spirit, mind and body are actually in conflict with each other.. for example: as a Buddhist you want to meditate but your body is hungry so it sends a signal to your mind to interupt your meditation and you are no longer able to meditate... get my point? OK.. well the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit are in 100% perfect harmony and unison, so much so in fact, that they are one. While truly, you yourself are not, you are in conflict... continued...
goldmisers 3 months ago
3... God is not limited to time, space or matter either... whereas you are. The Bible says In the beginning was the Word and the word was with God and the Word was God... and that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld His glory (refering to Jesus)... At Jesus' baptism, the cloud desended and a voice came from the cloud saying "This is my Son in Whom I am well pleased and the Holy Spirit descended apon Him as a dove.. all 3 were present.. continued...
goldmisers 3 months ago
4... together, they are one. Now... since they are not limited to time, space or matter it is no effort on their part to be transcendent and or immanent... in fact, we see that very think happen at Jesus' baptism.
Question 2: In the beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter)... then He said (Word)
"Let Us (Father, Word and Holy Spirit) create man in Our image... He also created the Angels of whom Lucifer was one of them... continued...
goldmisers 3 months ago
5... now God knew that satan would sin and be the father of sin. God also knew that satan would lead Adam and Eve to sin. So how could God being Holy allow this?? This puzzled me at first too until I found the answer:
When God created Adam He said, ".. and let Us give man dominion over the earth".. interesting? Why?
Why did God give us the freedom to choose between good and evil and give us dominion over the earth?
... continued...
goldmisers 3 months ago
6... the answer is actually profoud!
Love... pure and simple. You see man had to have the choice free and clear whether or not to choose to love God.
It makes perfect sense really... would you rather have the love by choice of a spouse or a robot that you created that would do everything you programmed it to? God did not invent sin... satan did but God saw it as an opportunity for the free will of man to choose between God or satan, good or evil, love or hate.. continued...
goldmisers 3 months ago
7... Many people blame God for sin... remember.. God gave MAN dominion over the earth.. that means even above Himself man is in charge of the earth. We love to point the finger at God and blame Him for all the evil that happens here when in fact it is what we have brought about... however.. in His great love for us, He offered His Son as a sacrifice to pay for our filthy sins if we accept the offer... hope that helps. Even Buddha mentioned the coming of Jesus :)
goldmisers 3 months ago
@goldmisers I'm grateful for your approach from the Bible. I thought I might add a couple things from a philosophical standpoint.
"God is not limited to time, space, or matter" By definition God is not subject to anything. If any of these were over him then that would mean he wasn't truly God... a really strong being maybe, but not God.
I thought I might also add that evil is not a thing or a new creation. Rather it is merely a perversion of something that already exists, namely good.
steveoho 3 months ago
The only way to know "god" is by dropping your concept of "god". The word is never the actual.
MrBeautifulba1 7 months ago
Oh, this video is still up; I'm shocked. As I look back thought the comment this video has spawned I see that no one has answered my questions. I'm still waiting for a clean and logical answer.
stewartminor 1 year ago
@stewartminor stewart are you still attending UNT? I'll be up there (Lord willing) this Thursday. My husband and I have been going up to the university weekly. We'd love to talk with you this Thurs. What do ya say??
fishwithtrish 1 year ago
@stewartminor
Answer #1 God is Ultra-Terrestrial and vibrates on a diff frequency than us. Hence putting him in an alternate dimension. hence making him invisible.
Answer #2 If love means you never let anyone make a mistake and rule their lives. Where does freedom come into play? Have you ever made a mistake? Should you be condemned for all time because of that mistake? What you want is someone who will tell you what to do...and then FORCE you to do it. God does the former not the later.
TheMintusmaximus 10 months ago
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@stewartminor
Answer #1 God is Ultra-Terrestrial and vibrates on a diff frequency than us. Hence putting him in an alternate dimension. hence making him invisible.
Answer #2 If love means you never let anyone make a mistake and rule their lives. Where does freedom come into play? Have you ever made a mistake? Should you be condemned for all time because of that mistake? What you want is someone who will tell you what to do...and then FORCE you to do it. God does the former not the later.
TheMintusmaximus 10 months ago
@stewartminor Q1 - Time is an invention of his. For him its like holding an object in his hand and interacting with it. From our perspective he is interacting with us on a daily basis. From His, he foreordained all of human history before the beginning of time.
steveoho 3 months ago
@stewartminor Q2 - Does God cause all things to happen? He is sovereign, but gives us the ability to make choices. Why He allows us to make bad choices I can think of a number - He is loving and wont violate our will, He does not wish us to continue in darkness (our sin has separated us from him/real life), and he sees the end and will make all things right. Read Romans for more
I can say that without a God real evil does not exist and without choice I also fail to see how evil is relevant
steveoho 3 months ago
For Stewart, For eveil and good to exist at the same time, God allows us to have a free will..Deuteronomy 28: 1-14 for space sake, God promises Blessings if you obey the Lord your God, Deuteronomy 28: 15-68 Promises Curses if you will not obey the Lord your God. For space Deuteronomy 30: this whole chapter shows that God says in Verse 19: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse..Watch accounts of near death experiences. accounts of going to Heaven and hell
loveIsraelnow 1 year ago
hey trish if you get this great work in using the law and then the gospel to reach out to people. I believe if even just one person is telling someone about christ in this manner it will change the world. Keep on going sister in christ and spreading the gospel as I will and we will see God work!!! Bless you sister in christ!!! :) Keep strong!!! :)
saviourking09 1 year ago
nice. outsource the answers because you cant find them by yourself. classic flock of god, always needing others to help you out.
j321234 2 years ago
@j321234 I'm sure you have friends that you turn to for help on things you know little of or are incapable of doing yourself too
steveoho 3 months ago
Dear steveoho,
Believe it or not i actually don't have any friends. This has benefited me in many ways, including but not limited to being self sufficient. There is presently nothing i know little of or am incapable of doing myself. I apologize for my angry comment. that was a year ago and im a different person now. The primary way ive changed is that im open to trying new things, such as having friends. I dont see why people would be opposed to that, seeing as im awesome at everything i do...
j321234 3 months ago
@j321234 Maybe I'm just hearing something that isn't there, but my personal experience leads me to ask... would you say having friends for the sake of having friends is difficult for you? Such as is it hard to imagine someone wanting to be around you just for you and not for what you can do?
steveoho 3 months ago
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RumorControlCenter 2 years ago
The laws of logic are insight into God's mind. They're His very nature.
oballazplaya2 2 years ago
God isn't real, Stuart. Don't worry.
highlander42 2 years ago
So your saying that its not possible to keep the law of God.Then I guess Satan can come back to heaven.If you love Jesus you can't wait for the Sabbath Day to come so you can spend a whole day without a thought of secular or worldly affairs and have sweet rest and communion with God.We all have sinned but God calls us to be holy and have victory over sin through Christ Jesus in which all things are possible. GOD BLESS
eugenerush7 2 years ago
eugenerush7
I hope you don't mind me asking, but are you saying that Christians can keep the law? And I am not sure what you mean by mentioning the Sabbath. Would you please explain?
Thanks
darcytirsia 2 years ago
So in that case you keep the sabbath day
correct?
eugenerush7 2 years ago
Nope. I've broken that, along with all the other commandments (lying, stealing, etc) but Jesus was able to keep the whole law and not stumble at any point.
fishwithtrish 2 years ago
trish, honestly you preach about God's Holy Law but hou do you feel about God's Holy Sabbath Day
eugenerush7 2 years ago
Dear eugenerush7, it doesn't matter how I "feel" about it. What is important and what matters is how God feels about it and what the bible teaches.
fishwithtrish 2 years ago
Stop trying to make it seem like people who don't share your religious belief have a problem.
45erwx7 2 years ago
45erwx7 the bible says all have a problem as all are condemmed (no heaven unless salvation acheived)
valu777 2 years ago
Stewart,
Still open to meet with me and Emilio??
Trish
fishwithtrish 2 years ago
you can take a ball and hold it at its edges
stuart you are reading into things to suit your self vague things
and ignoring the plain statements of gods word the bible
like the following scripture
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me.
valu777 2 years ago
stewart is struggling with his mind and high opion of himself
many men have tryed hard to fight against god
god says he resists the proud
stewart needs to humbel himself if he realy wants tofind god
valu777 2 years ago
that scripture do0senot say the world is flat
valu777 2 years ago
He sealeth up the hand of every man; that all men may know his work.
theres your fingerprints from psalms
valu777 2 years ago
The Greeks (and Romans), anyway, thanks to Eratosthenes. The Israelites obviously didn't.
GBart 2 years ago
finger prints were they known back then also
valu777 2 years ago
Isaiah. Date Written - c. 698 B.C.. Based upon the period in which Isaiah prophesied it would put Isaiah in the years of 740 - 698 B.C
Name: Eratosthenes of Cyrene
Birth Date: c. 275 B.C.
Death Date: c. 195 B.C.
i say the bible was first with this fact
valu777 2 years ago
*double facepalm*
First with what? It says the Earth is flat.
GBart 2 years ago
where?
valu777 2 years ago
how do you know that?
valu777 2 years ago
just wondered if you do drugs
valu777 2 years ago
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GBart 2 years ago
to the question
radio waves are every where we cant see them
satalite broadcasts are there we cant see them
once the sicence said the world was flat they were wrong but beleived they were correct
in the bible thousands of years ago that the world is round and hangs on nohing
if man can discover and use radio waves to be every where at once then the creator of the universe shurly can be what he says he is as he says that he dosent lie
Jesus is the way to god try it ask him
valu777 2 years ago
"radio waves are every where we cant see them"
Ok... but we can demonstrate that they exist. We can build machines that CAN see them.
"once the sicence said the world was flat"
??? No, the BIBLE said the Earth is flat and that it sits on pillars. Science discovered that it's round, which Christians still rejected for hundreds of years.
"Jesus is the way to god try it ask him"
I did, he didn't answer because he doesn't exist.
GBart 2 years ago
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Isaiah 40:22
i have to correct you on that
valu777 2 years ago
Circle. Right.
Psalm 93:1: Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...
"take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it (Job 38:12-13)
"[T]he devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them"
(Matthew 4:1-12)
GBart 2 years ago
"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble. (From the NIV Bible, Job 9:6)"
"Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea. (From the NIV Bible, Job 11:9)"
GBart 2 years ago
this dosent say the world is flat
valu777 2 years ago
It very clearly does.
GBart 2 years ago
This is a long while ago that you wrote this, I hope that you have found the answer to your strange interpretation of this verse. But if you look over toward the middle of it it says that "the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers". Here the use of hyperbole to simplify the deeper meaning is not uncommon in this type of literature within God's Word. The circle of the earth is not here being represented as flat, nor can it be used as a reference for a sphere, so there's no argument.
Danny2Lisa 2 years ago
"if man can discover and use radio waves..."
This sentence doesn't make any sense.
"the creator of the universe shurly can be what he says he is"
How do you know it has said anything?
"he says that he dosent lie"
How do you know THAT's not a lie?
GBart 2 years ago
hi stewart your eyes look like you love your drugs mate
drugs open a gap in the sprit to let evil into you
drugs expose our sole to the destroyer
valu777 2 years ago
1. Irrelevant. But if god is omnipresent, then what is Hell?
2. Not possible. Epicurus figured that one out millennia ago. God made the world, right? And he knew exactly how it would turn out, right? And he could have made it any way he wanted, right? Do I have the power to contradict what he set up, or what he knows will happen? If not, then how could I have a choice? How could I be held accountable for anything?
The problem of evil is the first thing that led me toward disbelief.
GBart 2 years ago
I have a couple more questions.
1) You believe that bad things happen because we have free will, and that we choose to sin, correct? As I demonstrated above, that's not possible, but let's assume it's true. Then do we have free will in Heaven? Is Heaven full of evils and sin and plagues and disasters? Why then is the Earth?
2) If the universe was created with us in mind, then why is 99.9999999999999% of it empty space, dark matter, clouds of gas and black holes, all of which are lethal?
GBart 2 years ago
1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion,walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
valu777 2 years ago
hell is made for the devil & angles
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, DepartG4198 from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
but man can go there for the same reasons the devil gose there
thats the law from a just god
valu777 2 years ago
"from a just god"
lol
GBart 2 years ago
if you went to cort and the judge found you gilty , then just let you go free
he would get the sack as not preforming his job corectly
how our just god can let you go free lawfully is that he paid your fine for you
so no one gets off free with god its a question of who pays the penalty
you can choose to pay your own fine
or ask jesus to pay your fine
thats up to you
a just god has made you totaly free
choose life or death up tp you ???
valu777 2 years ago
This would only make sense if 1) God didn't create me and was not omniscient (and therefore I had free will) 2) I could prove that laws actually existed, and that they were binding 3) If I had some say in what those laws were (democratic process, for instance)
It would never be moral for another person to accept responsibility for my wrongdoing, and I would never assent to human sacrifice (even though it wasn't really sacrifice) as a means to that end anyway.
GBart 2 years ago
If God exists, then my free will and therefore my responsibility does not. I have no choices if my future is already known to my creator.
I am, however, responsible to my fellow human beings, as they are the only conscious beings I know to exist, and my choices affect them.
I do not believe we are under such a celestial tyranny as the bible suggests, and I would not acknowledge or assent to its authority or my responsibility if we were.
GBart 2 years ago
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
sir I FEAR FOR Your fate
whatever you beleive wont change what is true
how proud are you this confirms your father is the devil repent and be born again
valu777 2 years ago
"sir I FEAR FOR Your fate"
What? Getting a phd in physics, living my life to the best of my ability, an then dying, hopefully a long time from now? Why is that scary? It sounds great!
"whatever you beleive wont change what is true"
That's why I only believe things that are true - that means not god.
"this confirms your father is the devil"
Thanks. Christians are so wonderful and loving.
"repent and be born again"
Repent of what? I was born right the first time.
GBart 2 years ago
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
For, from the very creation of the world, His invisible perfections--namely His eternal power and divine nature--have been rendered intelligible and clearly visible by His works, so that these men are without excuse.
Sir You Have No Excuse
Repent Means Turn To God Your Maker The maker Of heven & Earh Turn Away From Sin Jesus The Name Above All Names
valu777 2 years ago
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."
The wise man hath said it out loud.
"have been rendered intelligible"
Negative. I talk mention the argument from design in my Pascal's Wager video. You don't think for yourself at all, do you?
"Sir You Have No Excuse"
Excuse For What?
"Repent Means Turn To God"
Then Repenting Is Not Possible Since God Does Not Exist
"Jesus The Name Above All Names"
It Was Actually Joshua. All Human Names Are Equal, Including His.
GBart 2 years ago
Ok You Win
Let It Be To You Acording To You
You Blood Is On Your Own Head
There Is Only 520 weeks every 10 years
the day you die you will know
all my love and prayers to you
In Jesus Name The Name Above All Names That At His Name Every Knee Shall Bow Every Toung Will Confess That Jesus Is Lord
Even You Will Do It One Day!
valu777 2 years ago
"the day you die you will know"
The day I die I will know nothing, by definition. Death is when my brain ceases to function.
"all my love and prayers to you"
Ok, all my magic spells and incantations to you.
"Even You Will Do It One Day!"
I would sooner go to Hell.
Stop exhorting this nonsense and let people enjoy their lives while they still can.
GBart 2 years ago
who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations."
just letting you know that your sin will also curse yor children what will you say to them when they ask why you caused all their problems
when you see this rember its all your fault
valu777 2 years ago
"just letting you know that your sin will also curse yor children"
This is why the Bible is ridiculously immoral and it would be horrible if it were true.
"what will you say to them when they ask why you caused all their problems"
You mean if I see them in hell? I'll explain the Problem of Free Will to them, proving that God is an evil sadistic asshole and there was nothing any of us could have done.
Hopefully they'll be smarter than you and I won't have to explain it.
GBart 2 years ago
phd in physics
as kou know in physics there are always laws
when there are laws there must be a lawmaker
that make sence do you say
then its simple just ask god to reveal himself to you
if he dose he is real if he dosent then he is not
seek him and you will find him
cheers peter
valu777 2 years ago
"if he dose he is real if he dosent then he is not"
I did ask God to reveal himself to me. A long time ago. The silence was deafening.
"when there are laws there must be a lawmaker"
This is a different definition of "law". The physical laws are not arbitrary.
Even if the laws are due to an intelligent agency, then how is it that intelligence came to exist? Intelligence can't be the first cause. How would you know if it is aware of human life or cares, or even if it still exists now?
GBart 2 years ago
Besides, there would still have to be a set of "physical" laws to which that intelligence would belong, or else existence itself wouldn't make sense.
GBart 2 years ago
yes true so the question is who is that intelligence
valu777 2 years ago
not just physical laws relating to life. but universal laws that deal with coherence for logic like being able to distinguish if those are meaningful statements you are making or are those non-meaningful statements you are making. if non-meaningful why are you even asking questions? if meaningful then the knowledge that exists must come from someone that is not subject to the limits of time and capacity in relation to knowledge. you must have an infinite reference point for unseen laws ie Logic
erchomai1 2 years ago
The transcendental argument is really weak, and it would only get you as far as Deism if it worked. No, physical laws are not bound to minds. Minds can only describe them. They are simply properties the universe has.
Besides, needing an infinite reference point for "unseen laws" (which are only really defined through their seen effects) is a law which itself would need another mind outside that other mind, ad infinitum.
You can't define something into existence with ambiguous wording.
GBart 2 years ago
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These are all question that Hovind, Ham and Comfort have all answered already....
OnlyJesusSaves 2 years ago
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OnlyJesusSaves 2 years ago
Yep. It's south of Denton. If you're ever in the area shoot me an email. My husband (Emilio) and I would love to take you out for ice-cream, coffee, or whatever and talk about these things more. :-)
I know you're a student so I'm sure your totally busy but what do ya say??
fishwithtrish 2 years ago
Stewart, are you ever in the Keller area??
fishwithtrish 2 years ago
tripsnicks -
There is substantial disagreement about just how serious the evidential problem of evil is. Your contention that "there are no serious thinkers who hold this problem" is not compelling and you are trying to dismiss it far to easily.
Suffice it to say we aren't going to solve it on youtube.
soopahsoopah 3 years ago
god chose the foolish things to confound the wise
the message of the cross is foolishness to those that are perishing
valu777 2 years ago
Perfectly said Stuart
Katalyzt
Katalyzt 3 years ago
again, it only needs to be demonstrated that a greater good is plausible in the end. Since we don't know what could possibly result from allowing certain evil.
Again, Alvin Plantinga has sufficiently dealt with this and there are no serious thinkers who hold this problem.
tripsnicks 3 years ago
Stewart
you are assuming in your premise that you can identify "evil" without an objective standard.
If you can't validate your premise then the rest doesn't follow.
You presume too much.
tripsnicks 3 years ago
Stuart,
So sorry for the spelling error--didn't know how to spell your name. :-) Thanks for posting comments here. I'm glad you stopped by. Did you get to check out the post on my blog yet and some of the comments??
Trish
fishwithtrish 3 years ago
the law of God is righteous psalm 119:172
eugenerush7 2 years ago
Look, someone put it in a book, that means it's true!
GBart 2 years ago
If you have a problem with evil, and you have not repented of your sin and trusted Christ, then you have a problem with yourself because you ARE evil, by nature, and by your rebellion towards your creator.
bereansearch 3 years ago
God allows evil to exist, because if He did not, He would have to destroy the whole world (save the Christians) the world is evil (system opposed to God) it is in His mercy that He allows evil to continue and is longsuffering to those who have not believed yet and those who will not.
bereansearch 3 years ago
Trancendent=completely outside of and beyond the world
World=kosmos, system opposed to God (because of the fall)
Still God manifests Himself in the world, through the things He has made, and His Word, and the power manifested by His Holy Spirit.
God is everywhere in the world, but does not originate from it.
bereansearch 3 years ago
Stewart
4) You have been given much light (answers), and as such you are accountable for it.
Most people don't want truth.
Most people want relief.
But if you seek the truth and not play games, you will find the truth.
I will pray for you, and I hope the best for you.
fredstime/darcytirsia
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(Trish... Thanks and God bless).
fredstime 3 years ago
Stewart
1) In the Book of Isaiah of the Old Testamen, there is a prophecy of things to come: Isaiah 61, verses 1-2 in particular. In the New Testamen in Luke chapter 4, verses17-20 Jesus did something remarkable... He left out a part of Isaiah's verse, and then he sat in Moses' seat.
Jesus did not repeat "The day of Vengence of our God" because that time is not yet. Therefore God will bring vengence and judgement for evil. He did at the cross, and He will in the end.
fredstime 3 years ago
Stewart
2) Did you know that everything God started in Genesis will perfectly end in Revelation?
Compare the first 3 chapters of Genesis and the last 3 chapters of Revelation and you will see that everything God started will end:
God created heaven and earth/ There will be a new heaven and earth. The darkness He called night/ There will be no night there. God made the sun and the moon/ The Heavenly city will not need the sun or the moon. The day you eat you shall die/ No death there. etc
fredstime 3 years ago
Stewart
3) Psalm chapter 18 verse 26 says, "With the pure you will show yourself pure; and with the fraudulent you will show yourself devious."
Stewart let me tell you what God is saying in the above verse. You want to play games with Him, and act like He isn't there. Well, He'll play games with you and give you reasons for not believing Him.
I know He is knocking on the door of your heart.
But, you are saying to God, "I hear you knocking but you can't come in."
Read it and weep!
fredstime 3 years ago
The only thing that I can say is that God cannot place those limits upon himself that he does Humans...our 5 senses etc...if he were to make us exactly the same as He then wouldn't we be God? The laws of physics that apply to us cannot apply to a deity...we were made in His image but not exactly like Him...
Zonebone 3 years ago
POE (Problem of Evil) there are no philosophers who use this argument against the existence of God . A. Plantinga dealt in detail with it diffusing it sufficiently.
2 parts of the POE. The logical & emotional aspect. I suppose he is pointing to the logical . Logically there is no problem.
1 see above
2 it only needs be shown, it is plausible that a greater good is poss. as a result of the evil. (Perfect example: the cross. very evil; however it resulted in the salvation of millions)
tripsnicks 3 years ago
he uses the transcendent nature of logic to argue against a transcendental being (God). If logic is not transcendental then it is subjective thus there is no logical problem. If logic is transcendental then it is universal and atheism is false.
He is arguing with presuppositions but his worldview cannot support those. He is using a Christian worldview that supports laws of logic and transcendental rules to support his own worldview.
tripsnicks 3 years ago
Logic is the science of identifying what is and its converse: that which is cannot be what it is not. A rock on a world is a rock on a distant world even if humans cannot identify this axiom. This rock wouldn't cease to exist, or become a leaf if consciousness never came to be. It would be what it is. If god doesn't exist, logic remains non-subjective. Stop depending on gods for objectivity. Logic is a much better source.
MicheasTheMighty 2 years ago
Micheas are you saying we create laws of logic? such as the law of identity you've described?
tripsnicks 2 years ago
We don't create laws of logic. Even if all the humans in the world came to a consensus that up is down and absurdity is reasonable, up wouldn't be down and absurdity wouldn't be reasonable. Laws of logic are ipso facto. Human acknowledgment of them does not necessitate their existence. Reality necessitates their existence, whether or not humans are left in the dark, ignoring them. You're putting the intellectual cart before the horse.
MicheasTheMighty 2 years ago
when you are at a source of authority it will be circular
tripsnicks 3 years ago 2
1) Who (or What) came before time/space is greater than time/space, because it can exist outside of time and space. It is not subject to the same restrictions that we are. We deduce our experiences using our 5 senses, and as such we are bound by them.
darcytirsia 3 years ago
2) Evil, suffering, and other fun topics(excuse my sillyness):
In the book of Job we see that God never does answer Job. As a matter of fact God starts to ask Job some questions, such as "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth (Job chapter 38, verse 4)?" I know most people do not want to hear this, because we want answers. And the Big Man upstairs better give them to me to my satisfaction or I will be upset! (Usually thought by many, but said by few).
Be Blessed
darcytirsia 3 years ago
Yes, God invented time and space so God can traverse it. Secondly, the question of evil can only be asked if there is an ultimate standard for good and evil otherwise there is not evil. However, God can see the end from the beginning and has a Will that we do not know. Yet, although evil exists because of freewill God reconciled the evil within through his offering of Jesus Christ. The many evils will be ultimately judged and be dealt with on Judgment day. No evil will be forgotten.
lamase24 3 years ago
1.Time and space are dimensions that God made; having made them implies that He would not have to be bound by something He made.
2.God does not want robots to serve Him, He gives us free choice. Should we choose to do evil (as we all have done), God is also rich in mercy and commands us to repent. This does not mean that evil will go unpunished; He has appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness.
Cloud9999Strife 3 years ago
Defiently! Trish, I'll email u and I want u 2 give him my phone number. I'll talk to him.
geisler78 3 years ago
Yes man can keep Gods law
eugenerush7 2 years ago