2.o is great! there are also those who feel that 2.0 has commercialized the net to the point where the internet 'belongs' to google/yahoo/youtube et al. and smaller html sites are no longer 'central' to the net
i like learning about the evolution of the net, because it is changing so fast! great vid !
There was one company able to do ti with a special card, but yes we would need to make some more development on internet technology before it would be reliable and fast enough.
I belief in "trends" but there are hard limits. Some form the top of my head:
transmission (hard limit): Maybe for some World of Warcraft clone this is not that bad but for shooter or race games.... probably everything highly competetive.
It will be hard to lower the ping because router just "are there" and I see no real room for optimiziation without recreating some protocols
Compression (soft limit: processing power): I'd be interested how they gonna encode in real time the HD output for e.g. 100 gamer. I know there is this company and I really have to look how they do it. You know how long it takes to encode your videos.
I'll pull a Number out of my ass: they have to render the game, lets say the use a state of the art graphics card for that. Then encode it, which most modern graphic cards can do too: they require 2 cards where I would have required one
I have similiar thoughts as you: what will happen? and one thing you did not mention at all:
SEX. This is what drives *every* new technology.. From the first pictures to the cinema to whatever we will come up in 2000 years *g*.
The first Internet basically provided some social interaction and lots of porn to download (I was there back then.... using a 56 k flex modem to download Videos the size of stamps)
Sex may be too "strong" of a word. "Social interaction" is better: IMHO this was the first time rather small number of people with special interests (computer geeks, role players, whatever) could meet and discuss. E.g. I was a big anime nerd back then and met lots of local people who were into anime too via the net... How would you know the guy/gal there on the street has the same interests as you?
Stupid youtube did not post comment because I had a website in ti :(
Introducing Web 2(dot)0:
I think we find this mostly in easy to use tools:
A website to create and maintain is highly complex, but go to blog(dot) com and get your blog which is very easy to keep up to date. Videos on a Homepage were donloadable files... with youtube you can put them into the web easyly.... WHy? becuase youtube provides the tool (flash program) to do so.....
I think the (kind of) social interaction and tools which can be used by a critical mass of people is more important than whatever technology can provide (faster CPU, faster Internet connection)
Do these need to be mutually exclusive? With this increased connectivity you can see great possibility for more immersive social connections. There is a proposed simulated reality where it would be like you were in the same room. You also haven't seen the real possibility of networking for this to be probable. Look at audio technology where multiple machines can be digitally linked fibreoptically for virtually instantaneous networking.
We currently use a network format designed to be cheap, not effective, and there is a number of very sophisticated networking technology that could make the amount of data needed and transfer speed very possible. This prototype at the convention was one such example.
No, not mutually exclusive but I think you emphasize the technological aspect too much. Take the sms of your mobile which was never intended for wide usage.
Cloud computing is what you described.... I don't think this will be "the next big thing" to be honest.....
There was an article in a magazine some time ago "sex drives technology". I subscribe to the theory that whatever promises sex (social interaction is just a "step towards the goal") in some way will be pushed to the (consumer) market.
Things like documents at central server etc... the technology is available and used in companies. Lets face it: they don't need such a thing like a platform independent application because they use homogeneous software environments.
Thanks, very good video. What do you think the privacy considerations are of having information stored on a server like Google Docs? There is also an issue of corporate control. If you keep your documents on Google docs they are controlled by Google. Centralization of was one of the things campuses were trying to get away from with the replacement of the dumb terminal by the PC. With the PC everyone can compile and run code with a mainframe and a dumb terminal a priesthood controls what runs.
Agree'd, Luckily PC games are still 50USD rather than the X360/PS3 games being 60USD. But Games are being made for consoles which is the opposite of how it was in the late 90s early 2000s
What is that a picture of on that poster behind you?
luv2increase 2 years ago
Thanks for the video. Great overview for the test I'm taking tomorrow.
jaydstein 2 years ago
2.o is great! there are also those who feel that 2.0 has commercialized the net to the point where the internet 'belongs' to google/yahoo/youtube et al. and smaller html sites are no longer 'central' to the net
i like learning about the evolution of the net, because it is changing so fast! great vid !
VenusSatanas 2 years ago
I don't think you can really "outsource" processing for fast games. There is just too much lag, especially if you want an HD video feedback
ric4567 2 years ago
There was one company able to do ti with a special card, but yes we would need to make some more development on internet technology before it would be reliable and fast enough.
TristanPEJ 2 years ago
I belief in "trends" but there are hard limits. Some form the top of my head:
transmission (hard limit): Maybe for some World of Warcraft clone this is not that bad but for shooter or race games.... probably everything highly competetive.
It will be hard to lower the ping because router just "are there" and I see no real room for optimiziation without recreating some protocols
ric4567 2 years ago
Compression (soft limit: processing power): I'd be interested how they gonna encode in real time the HD output for e.g. 100 gamer. I know there is this company and I really have to look how they do it. You know how long it takes to encode your videos.
I'll pull a Number out of my ass: they have to render the game, lets say the use a state of the art graphics card for that. Then encode it, which most modern graphic cards can do too: they require 2 cards where I would have required one
ric4567 2 years ago
I have similiar thoughts as you: what will happen? and one thing you did not mention at all:
SEX. This is what drives *every* new technology.. From the first pictures to the cinema to whatever we will come up in 2000 years *g*.
The first Internet basically provided some social interaction and lots of porn to download (I was there back then.... using a 56 k flex modem to download Videos the size of stamps)
ric4567 2 years ago
Sex may be too "strong" of a word. "Social interaction" is better: IMHO this was the first time rather small number of people with special interests (computer geeks, role players, whatever) could meet and discuss. E.g. I was a big anime nerd back then and met lots of local people who were into anime too via the net... How would you know the guy/gal there on the street has the same interests as you?
ric4567 2 years ago
Stupid youtube did not post comment because I had a website in ti :(
Introducing Web 2(dot)0:
I think we find this mostly in easy to use tools:
A website to create and maintain is highly complex, but go to blog(dot) com and get your blog which is very easy to keep up to date. Videos on a Homepage were donloadable files... with youtube you can put them into the web easyly.... WHy? becuase youtube provides the tool (flash program) to do so.....
ric4567 2 years ago
OK tl;dr:
I think the (kind of) social interaction and tools which can be used by a critical mass of people is more important than whatever technology can provide (faster CPU, faster Internet connection)
ric4567 2 years ago
Do these need to be mutually exclusive? With this increased connectivity you can see great possibility for more immersive social connections. There is a proposed simulated reality where it would be like you were in the same room. You also haven't seen the real possibility of networking for this to be probable. Look at audio technology where multiple machines can be digitally linked fibreoptically for virtually instantaneous networking.
TristanPEJ 2 years ago
We currently use a network format designed to be cheap, not effective, and there is a number of very sophisticated networking technology that could make the amount of data needed and transfer speed very possible. This prototype at the convention was one such example.
TristanPEJ 2 years ago
No, not mutually exclusive but I think you emphasize the technological aspect too much. Take the sms of your mobile which was never intended for wide usage.
Cloud computing is what you described.... I don't think this will be "the next big thing" to be honest.....
There was an article in a magazine some time ago "sex drives technology". I subscribe to the theory that whatever promises sex (social interaction is just a "step towards the goal") in some way will be pushed to the (consumer) market.
ric4567 2 years ago
Things like documents at central server etc... the technology is available and used in companies. Lets face it: they don't need such a thing like a platform independent application because they use homogeneous software environments.
ric4567 2 years ago
Thanks, very good video. What do you think the privacy considerations are of having information stored on a server like Google Docs? There is also an issue of corporate control. If you keep your documents on Google docs they are controlled by Google. Centralization of was one of the things campuses were trying to get away from with the replacement of the dumb terminal by the PC. With the PC everyone can compile and run code with a mainframe and a dumb terminal a priesthood controls what runs.
happyjesus123 2 years ago
these are good questions we should all think about.
TristanPEJ 2 years ago
Long live to PC games!!! down with consoles ;)
Baronesa1980 2 years ago
Agree'd, Luckily PC games are still 50USD rather than the X360/PS3 games being 60USD. But Games are being made for consoles which is the opposite of how it was in the late 90s early 2000s
kuzekira 2 years ago 2
give it time.
TristanPEJ 2 years ago
Indeed I shall.
kuzekira 2 years ago