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  • FYI, your comments will be approved if they are appropriate and sincere. If your comments are appropriate and have not been approved, it simply because I didn't get to your comments yet. Creating video is not my professional occupation (my occupation is being a good mother and a holistic wellness practitioner), so I seek your patience just in case you are wondering what happened to your comments :-)

  • I'm taking both Japanese and ASL so by mixing two things I love ypu get JSL. <3

  • @samusofaether Great! "Ganbatte!"

  • How do you do a double character, like ookii or kakkoii?

  • @phoenixheart6 You ad small "tsu つ" after the consonant that is represented by double - the sound represented by a pair of consonants means you ad a sort of an aspiration sound (not quite the same with the English sense of aspiration but you can get by with it).

  • @kohyin I mean how do you sign it.

  • @phoenixheart6 If you look at the video carefully, it will show you how to sign small "tsu".

  • @phoenixheart6 I did look at it carefrully. I'm talking about a dobule vowel sound

  • @phoenixheart6 OK. I thought you were talking about the double consonant sound. For the double vowel, it's easy. Sign as you write. Just to make clear, this video is just for a finger signs for spelling words. Actual JSL sign language is much more involved using the hands and arms as well as facial expressions just as ASL does. I only remember the finger spelling part of JSL. It's been over 30 years since I learned JSL as a volunteer high school student...

  • @kohyin I guess that just means you do it twice. Just wondering because in ASL, I've seen them move the letter to the side when there's a double.

  • @phoenixheart6 I am not a JSL specialist and even though I learned it once, it's been quite a while since I learned it and used it. I checked it with NHK Minnano Shuwa site. Actually, you move an index finger (downward). I will add the link to NHK Minnano Shuwa site on the Video information because this editor won't allow me to add a hyper link.

  • Culinan. Net is a colaborative network of people who want to share signs.

    Let's make the Sign Language Shine !!

    -------- culinan.net ----------

    Find on the top of the homepage the english flag to switch the whole website in English.

  • ARIGATO HAJIMEMASHITE!

  • Graciiias!!

  • @catalina7119 de nada!

  • Here in Brazil, we have a different language . it's called "LIBRAS" ( Brazilian Sign Language ), I guess JSL is very hard ... It's my opinion...

  • I can't speak japanese, but I think about learning it.

    I just wanted to ask a question to somebody who already does so:

    How much time does one need to actually be capable of communicate in written and oral form even about complex stuff.

    Because if I start learning Japanese I wanna speak a good and not just somewhat good, and I agree that someone never stops learning a language, but about how much learning does it take to speak Japanese well enough that I could make a living there?

  • @Nederdien If your ultimate goal is to live in Japan and live well, consider obtaining a high professional skill. Knowing Japanese helps but won't get too far. Remember that all the natives speak Japanese fluently there. Your chance is not to compete with the natives with the skills that they are good at but with the skills that average Japanese don't have.

  • @kohyin

    Well, I am not trying to outspeak native speakers - but I don't want to end up having spent a lot of time learning Japanese and then just being able to say stuff like "Hello, my name is ..."

    I guess it would be good if I could read novels in Japanese ...

  • @Nederdien Sory, I thought your goal was to make a good living in Japan. If your goal is to read novels in Japanese, then I would recommend taking a college Japanese courses. There are bunch of language learning tools in the market, but I haven't seen one that teaches how to read novels. I took Spanish courses at a college and learned to read poems and novels in Spanish in the fourth semester.

  • Wow, so much more complicated than the ASL alphabet.

  • @cdsayitaintso not really japanese alphabet is longer thats all and its pretty easy learning it, im doing it right now m but u really need th accent more than the memorization and its all fun to learn

  • My teacher told me tsu pronounce as "ju", but here it sounds like "zi"; and the last hiragana should've been "wo", but here it sounds like "o". I don't understand this. Could a japanese poster please help me varify which sounds are adquate?

  • @AdvertChild98 - the "tsu" つ sounds like "tsu". If you pronounce the "ts" part of the plural English word that ends in "t" such as "mats" and ad "oo" う sound (such as in "tool"), it is very close to our "tsu".

    "w" of "wo" を is there only to distinguish it from "o" お, but the sound is exactly the same. Please don't ad the English "w" sound to "wo". I know that Roman-ji is very confusing. It is not a set of phonetic symbols and does not necessarily represent actual sounds. Learn Hiragana!

  • Clarification:

    When looked up on a chart or graph, and a lot of times, when seeing a Japanese person write their own language in the Latin alphabet, you will see this as follows:

    sa si su se so, ta ti tu te to

    za zi zu ze zo, da di du de do

    When pronounced, under English spelling rules, these syllables are as follows, respectively:

    sa shi su se so, ta chi tsu te to

    za ji zu ze zo, da ji zu de do

    The written language conforms to the spoken language, not the other way around.

  • Why does she say gya gyu gyo twice? The second time its chi, so it should be cha chu cho, but i hear gya gyu gyo again. O.o Wth?

  • @MurdocLC she doesn't. Maybe there was a streaming problem? After ぎゃ ぎゅ ぎょ gya gyu gyo is じゃ じゅ じょ and ぢゃ ぢゅ ぢょ both set pronounced exactly same.

  • @kohyin Wait wait wait. I thought about it really carefully.

    Ahaaaa! Damn it, i got confused by じ and ぢ, forgot that ぢ is same as じ, thus making all the や ゆ よ the same with chi".

    How do u type ぢ btw? Since there's two ji.

  • @MurdocLC

    di for ぢ, and ji for じ. My qeustion is how are you typing the hiragana if you didn't know?

  • @kohyin di dosent excist, but if it did it would be di yeah.

    I just copied u. But oh, how stupid of me, i should just type "di". *facepalm*

  • @MurdocLC

    I don't understand what you mean by "di doesn't exist". Is your keyboard not standard American keyboard? If there is alphabet "d" and alphabet "i", then you can type "di".

    ???

  • @kohyin No, haha, I mean di dosent excist in japanese. Its da ji zu de do.

  • @MurdocLC I see!

  • @kohyin there isn't a streaming problem. they are read the same just as yew, you and u are read the same.

  • what...s that at HA? the hand looks deformed.

  • @MoQuake it's pointing index finger and middle finger pointing outward.

  • sorry, but where's the others? errm, there's kya, but what about kyu and kyo? and, there's po, but, what about pa pi pu pe? I tried your site but, my pc won't read the signs.

    also, what about if I wanted to use gya etc.?

  • @shiawase168ne If you look at the video carefully, you will find answers to your questions. I type both in English and in Japanese on my web site. You might have to change the text encoding to view Japanese characters. I use iWeb to create my web page and that could be the cause for your pc not reading my Japanese letters? I am not sure...

  • 今は手話でアタシの名前が出来る~~よし!

  • kanagrams is a great way to learn kana (hiragana and katakana). This way seems silly to me.

  • kanagrams is a great way to learn kana (hiragana and katakana). This way seems silly to me.

  • Is there a chance that you can upload the signs with the k, with the s... etc.?? (in the same video, only slower and a little ''break'' between them?) So its easier to learn because there are more letters in the Japanese ''ABC'' then in the English one. So the sign language is more difficult.... I would LOVE to learn this language!! (L)

  • I'll make flash cards and upload them on my web site when I have time. It's a time consuming work and I have very little time right now... I suggest you to search other channels and web sites that teach Japanese Sign Language. You can find a few links on my web site as well. Good-luck

  • Thank you for this video... I have been learning Japanese for a few months and I already know the hiragana and katakana characters. I like to use sign language with my friends. Some of them are also learning some Japanese. They say that the characters and pronunciation are hard, but I think they are easy. So instead of speaking and writing Japanese, they decided to use Japanese sign language. So we all found this video and it helped us learn the JSL.

  • Thank you for your kind comment. I am happy to know that you and your friends find this video helpful.

  • please we would also like to see a big face on the screen of the person pronouncing the stuff because that gives better clues on how to spell.

  • Wow that's amazing! I'm going to be studying to become an interpreter in the fall and it's really interesting to see the difference between ASL and JSL.

  • I took an JSL course at the local community center when I was a high school student, as I was very much into communicating with people with different languages, cultures, and backgrounds. I learned some ASL for children so to communicate with my son when he was still a baby. No matter what language it is, it's fascinating to see similarities and differences in how we communicate throughout the world.

  • Yeah, definitely. I love the different languages hope to learn quite a few.

  • for me hiragana is a lot easier to write

  • Maybe another way for me to describe the Japanese "u" sound is : shorter and mixed with a bit of "a". But maybe I'm just hearing things =] Anyway, thanks for the videos, great work !

  • Thank you very much for your input. As a native Japanese speaker, I cannot know how our sounds appear to non-native speakers, and it is very fascinating and educational for me to hear about the observations like yours. Gives me different perspectives about my own language as well as my own understanding of "sounds". Thank you again. :)

  • I've just noticed that the japanses "u" sound is closer to the german "ü" rather than the spanish "u". That's funny because the other four vocals sounds quite close to spanish vocals.

  • Interesting. When I learned German, the "ü" sound was one of the hardest one to get it, and since I no longer speak the language, I am not sure if I'd every got that sound right. To me, it was a lot easier to learn Spanish "u" sounds as I felt it sounded just like Japanese "u" and no Spanish speakers so far told me that my "u" sounds funny, but it might be that Spanish speakers I met so far were just nice to me not to point out my funny accents...

  • :D

    I like learning English!

    But I have a question about pronounce. I'ts diifficult for me to tell the differenc between m and n. R and L, help?

  • I am a native Japanese speaker, so I don't distinguish R and L very well either, but as for the pronunciation, tongue is up in the air and back in the mouth for R, and tongue is touches the root of front teeth for L. As for hearing the difference, I don't. I only know by the spelling of each word. So, only advice I can give is to increase vocabulary.

  • :D

    I like learning JSL!

    But I have a question about Katakana. I'ts diifficult for me to tell the differenc between SO and N. help?

  • Yes, it's a hard one even for Japanese children at first, especially when they are printed. Once you learn enough vocabulary, you will distinguish easily by the context. Another way is to pay attention to the strokes: ソ(so) - the long line is drawn downward from the right of the short line, ン(n) - the long line is drawn upward from the position under the short line.

  • Ah, Yes I see that now! Thank you very much :D Arigatou

  • KATAKANA only contains straight lines. and the word KATAKANA in capitals only has straight lines. thats how i remember it. HIRAGANA has curves. i have'nt explained that verywell but thats how i differenciate between them

  • That's a great tip!

  • katakana is getting difficult i recognize some, hiragana was easy because they look like pictures but katakana im stuck any tips?

  • I suggest making flash cards. I uploaded a list of hiragana, katakana, and romaji on my home page for you. You can cut and paste the letters. Go to "Library" page of my home page.

  • Why did she say "hu" instead of "fu"?

  • there are a few ways to romanize the japanese syllabary, and some people choose to use "si" "ti" "hu" and "tu", etc.

    it's just a matter of preference, and here in japan you're just as likely to see "sinjyuku" as you're likely to see "shinjuku"

    "sinjyuku" is soooo ugly, hahaha

  • They pronounce fu like hu

  • she didn't ^_-

  • how do you wright the L in katakana? if they don't use the lettre L, then what should i replace this L?

  • The name of the letter "L" in English would be "el" so, we would write 「エル」if we have to, but we usually use the alphabet letter "L" for it.

    If you are talking about the sound "l" such as "la li lu le lo" or "ra ri ru re ro", then they are written ラリルレロ. They say neither "l" nor "r" sound exist in Japanese language, and ラリルレロ are supposed to sound between "la li lu le lo" and "ra ri ru re ro".

  • I know for sure that it is not "ra ri ru re ro". To me "la li lu le lo" sound closer to ラリルレロ, but I am Japanese and my English pronunciation of "L" sound may be wrong. When Californians say "water", the "ter" part of the word "water" sound a bit like "ラー and if I were to write down the sound in Katakana, I would write ワラー.

  • wow interesting!

    SUGOI

  • Arigato!

  • can someone help me, im trying to learn japanese and i dont know which one of the hand writings im supposed to learn? hiragana or katakana?

  • It'll be good to learn both eventually, but I recommend you to start with hiragana.

  • i have learned hiragana but learning katakana. but i have no driving force unless i'm in a classroom with my hilarious japanese teacher

  • would be easyer if they were just words

    like kanji, spelling out a whole word

    seems like it would take a while

    But this is what ive been looking for for several years, i must try to learn them

  • oh my god....sanksrit/hindi its much easier to learn!!!

  • yay! yubimoji~!

    i fond a chart which explains how to put the "voiced" markings in, also how to do the smaller characters.... it's in the way you move your hand...

  • ありがと ございます !finally found this ;)

    thank you very much ;D

  • woah, 3 words: WAY TOO FAST!

    jeez, guess i'll just have to find a book on jsl...

  • I recommend you to pause the video where you feel as though you need to stare at it longer. Yes, it would be very beneficial for you to invest on some books as well. Afterall, this is just a tool to help your study. I didn't expect anyone to learn Hiragana, Katakana, and Japanese sign language by just looking at this video clip.

  • thanks for the advice

    i was looking online for a book on JSL but i couldn't find anything at all! do you have any advice as to where i could find one?

  • Check Kinokuniya Bookstore. They are inside Mitsuwa Market (I live in California). Also the check NHK's Minnano Syuwa site.

  • I thought that ハ means eight (hachi)? so why is it ha in katagana?

    Also, why is は used as wa? For Example in konnichiwa

    こにちは。 Shouldnt it be こにちわ?

    Can anyone answer my queries? 

  • Katakana ハ (ha) looks similar to the kanji for the English word eight 八 (hachi). However, as you can see they are not exactly the same.

    は is a member of a group of words in Japanese called particles. Without going into great detail, particles are connecting words that are used to basically section off pieces of sentences. As for the origin of the particle は and where the pronunciation as wa originated I am uncertain.

  • The word こんにちは (English: good afternoon, or hello) when broken down is こん (kanji = 今 meaning now), にち (kanji = 日 meaning day) and the particle は. In Japanese classes the particle は is translated as "as for". So if we literally translate the word こんにちは it would be "as for the day now".

  • Also, は is pronaunced "wa" when the word before it is the subject, like: watashi no akusento wa warui desu. (my accent is bad)

    Accent, or "akusento" is the subject of the sentence.

  • @ebonyofold I didn't think the phrase こんいちは was presented as kanji... I thought it remained hiragana.

  • @ebonyofold konnichiha... i thought it was konnichiwa?

  • @ChristinaWolfle It's written in hiragana as "konnichiha", but there is a rule that makes "ha" to be pronounced as "wa" that is when "ha" is used as a particle at the end of a noun as a subject/object indicator.

  • ah i found it.. thank you very much :)

  • thnx. and ive got a quesion. ive been reading a few easy children books in hiragana and alot of the time i come across

    some hiragana like "su" (sorry dont no how to type in the actual japanese hiragana)

    and it would have like a quote mark above the character so like su"

    (but not romaji).

    all i know about the " thing is that it changes the sound from like 'su' to 'mu' for example. but the question is, how do i know which soundings to add to what charater?.

    thanx alot

    Jackmyster

  • The (") sound set is in this video clip. It is right after the basic sound set. You can download "Hiragana List" from my blog site (go to my profile to find the link). It's free of charges.

  • write now im learning katakana. its kinda hard though coz ive learnt hiragana but yea, katakana and hiragana have the same soundings so i kinda get mixed up. but i guess the best way is to practise, practise aaaannnd some more practise

  • Yes, my son still gets confused with the two. He learned Katakana before he mastered Hiragana at the Japanese school he used to go. I would have liked him to master Hiragana first, but that was not the way the school taught.

    I recommend you to focus on Hiragana first. Once you are very comfortable with Hiragana, there will be less confusion. Katakana is mostly used only for foreign sounds, onomatopoeia, and mimesis. Good luck with your study. がんばってね。

  • This was very helpfull thanks a lot's

    Continue please, uplading videos.

  • I had some technical troubles opening YouTube earlier and started a channel on MetaCafe. I have more Japanese learning videos over there.

    The direct link is on my profile page.

  • This is so cool. I have been trying to learn Katakana. But it is so hard.

  • Thank you for your encouraging comment.

  • thank you for uploading! ^_^

    learning this is as useful as learning gibberish 8D now I can talk in code with my friends xP

  • Thank you for your comment. What's gibberish 8D?

  • gibberish is.. a language?? like.. a slang kinda language that I hear teens often using. 8D looks like a face if u turn your head to the left =P

  • Sorry. I guess my brain was stack... now I see what you meant. Silly me. I know what gibberish is, and the 8D certainly looks like a face! I sometimes get needle point view that puts me into total brain comma.lol

  • whats the hand gestures for?

  • the hand gestures are called sign language. this set of sign language is called Japanese Sign Language. the ones shown this video clip is equivalent of the alphabet signs in American Sign Language. in this vieo clips, two sets of Japanese writing systems called Hiragana and Katakana are shown along with the Japanese Sign Language.

  • that is enjoy i learn more cultures in japan :D i smile with you all time i love japanese language forever

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