#34 Hydrogen HHO Zero Cell EFIE CALIBRATION 2007/09/01

[ZeroFossilFuel]

You know what? I'm going to approve this comment just to show the world what an ass you are. This video series is a chronicle of my experiments to produce HHO and put it to the most effective use. Keep your rude comments to yourself, sit back and watch as I contribute to making our planet green again.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY WITH THE POTENTIAL TO ALTER THE COURSE OF ALL HUMANITY FOR BETTER???

[webwarrior007]

Since what date is your hit counter on the new website? You are doing a great job. Will be donating soon, as I do not have the time to do the research myself.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Good question, Don't remember. A couple of months maybe?

[eandatoo]

I have been taking notes from your videos and studying how the zero cell is constructed. I'm really interested in building one for myself. The principle seems very straight-forward. I'll keep watching for more updates. This is awesome!

[eandatoo]

You are very wise to conceal your identity. The government doesn't take kindly to the possibility of losing their stranglehold on us. Keep up your research. You represent hope for us all.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Hey, look. I don't mind paying my fair share to fund public services. But the Gov't is going to have to create new revenue models to keep it afloat. Pay by the mile is being toyed with but using GPS to track it is too intrusive. Wireless odometer readings at designated checkpoints may be a compromise, like utility companies do now to take meter readings of KW/Hr usage only in reverse.

[pnbestone]

hello, Great work. I saw this video in Canada that they can run 100% HHO gas on an engine. Anyway, why can't we built a tank that storage the hho gas that can run about 3 hours on an engine and then swap it when it is running out? This way while we wait for HHO gas ran out on the tank running we can produce it the second one. So can we do that ZFF?

Current that how the gas engine are like that. Since car can only run about 3-5 hours before we can refill.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Hydrogen can be compressed without oxygen and transported safely because without oxygen, it's not combustable. It is then mixed with air at the point of combustion.

Hydrogen compressed WITH oxygen (HHO) is a time bomb waiting to level an entire city block.

Bad Idea.

[pnbestone]

IC. So can we just compress only Hydrogen without oxygen? Can you do that?

[adrian1167]

Since it's calibrated is there any chance of over lean running with this efie? I am not sure if I should go with an efie or just go with the wideband o2 sensor and controller I allready bought?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I'd say try what you bought first. I also think it is possible to go over lean with the EFIE if you're not careful.

[viking1au]

Don't grt angry with Youtube; it is the best thing since the 'net was invented; we get to see people like you & I enjoy it. This is all great stuff; keep it going. I am not having probs. watching you.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Actually, I have zero beef with YT lately. Hah! Get it? ZERO beef? -sigh- They've straightened out quite a bit.

[viking1au]

Hey, I looked at the Angelfire site & cant find you. Did you go ahead with it? If so, please send a link.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Honestly, I don't know why people have so much trouble finding it.

zerofossilfuel*angelfire*com

[viking1au]

Weird. I just got an email saying I have a response from ZFF re effie calibration. #1, no I havent. #2, I did not ask about this. Does YT have another gremlin???????

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Probably

[hardypanchal]

wow, how many plates r u using on the cell, i wanna see what 1.2 liters per minute looks when it bubbles!! that would be sick if you had a video of it producing 1.2 LPM. I dont think a lotta people have seen such an advanced cell at work, that vid where you measure it n show 1.2lpm would get a lotta views too!

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Good comment. I'll shoot some video of it making 1.2LPM in the car.

[leatherman64]

Great vids, am really interested in your work but the address that you gave I cannot get to it, could you post that address.

Thank you

[ZeroFossilFuel]

If you refer to Live Video, disregard. YT is doing a much better job these days. I will continue to mirror at LV but not as often.

[bccritters]

YouTube has done this to others like John AArons of hydrogen tap. ironically i have only heard of it from zero-point people.

[LITINNY]

HI efie CALIBRATION.. I AM TRYING TO GET MY EFIE DEVICE SET TO ITS LEAN SETTING... SO WHAT SETTINGS ARE YOU USING or RECOMEND THANKS LITINNY

[Voice0fEnergy]

Congratulations on your success!

And thank you for sharing. :-)

[y0uturd]

First off, Zff: you are my hero. I was just wondering if you were planning on doing any meyer-like mods to your cell (tubes/pulsing/etc).

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Tubes no. PWM, RF, Microwaves, UV, Magnetic fields, yes to all.

[allianceofsteel]

all engines are just air pumpts, restrict air, restrict power..... gains are nullified.

[hydrogenassist]

Do you think that you would get the same effect of gasoline usage if you reduced the input of air into the engine. Wouldn't the oxygen sensor sense that the fuel mixture is to rich and reduce the fuel into the engine. Thoughts!

[hardypanchal]

even if you put restriction on the air intake, the exhaust downstream sensor is still going to "think" that there's too much air going into the intake as the only biproduct of burning HHO is steam which has a lot of oxygen. so you need to control the air fuel mixture yourself manually. you can set it so its not trying to put more gas in and instead of the gasoline, you can use HHO.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

And a brief update on the EFIE. I've been running at 150mV offset initially. Not nearly enough. MPG gains are barely noticable at this setting. Reason? If you examine the O2 sensor voltage curve chart you will see there's a large voltage swing within a very tight mixture range at 14.7:1. A tiny offset has almost no impact on mixture. 300-450mV is the range I will now be focusing on. My HHO output is 1.2 LPM @22A input, 13.6V or 300W.

[hardypanchal]

So from this vid what zero's trying to say is that you have to get the mixture of gas,HHO and intake air at the same ratio that your car usually runs on with just gas, think of HHO as gasoline but going in thru air intake. So the mix should be like %HHO=petrol... IntakeAir+petrol= IntakeAir-amountofHHO+petrol+H­HO.

[flahr1]

What about testing with a lawn mower engine? No fuel injection mods and you can use a gravity feed clear tube fuel tank to make acurate measurements of fuel consumption with gas versus hho. And you won't blow up your nice honda intake manifold :)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

As soon as I start getting some decent donations, MAYBE I could get a sacrificial engine somewhere.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Either way produces the same result. But you're right about one thing. The motor compensating with mixture is not measureable as voltage fluctuation with a DMM. The motor is struggling to keep the o2 voltage constant. What's needed is a scope on the o2 sensor, connect the HHO feed tube and measure the spike before the lag time of the ECU has time to compensate.

Or you can just go trial and error like I ended up doing. 200mV right now.

[CarbideTip]

Great work. Thank you for all the info.

What are you using as a check valve?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

$3.99 at Autozone gadget, has two 1/8" inlets and one 1/4" outlet. Better flow than the little check valves.

[terrygus1]

give im hell can`t wait for more from you thanks for your help keep up the good work. a fellow follower,Terry.

[MrCarbJB]

ZFF, tried to go to the site that you posted but it's not letting me go there. Try posting it on your first page under comments as it is the only one that will allow you to post it.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

The link is valid. zerofossilfuel*angelfire*com

[MrCarbJB]

Well ZFF, I was able to get there but not sure what it is all about as I didn't see any of your videos there. Have you tried Live Video website? There is not as much traffic there as here, though. But it may be what you are looking for, I don't know.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Not yet. I still have to build it. Only just so many hours in the day.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Saw a video of yours at Live Video. Do you like the service? What is the maximum upload size and time limit on a free account?

[MrCarbJB]

Well ZFF, I just noticed this response as YT didn't notify me

that you had responded. Well the Live Video service seems to work ok but not as much traffic there as here though. And if there is a limit to the size of the vids is more than I know as I've seen several that have been over an hour long. And I'm not sure either if there is a total limit.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

LV imposes no limits on the number of videos or albums. Also no limit on time, just size per file, 100MB for regular accounts, 200MB for director. Both flavors are free. And it's reliable.

YT definitely has greater market share though. That's the only hesitation I have. Maybe once I mirror I'll post to both. There's no need formore than 10 minutes per clip at either service anyway.

[MrCarbJB]

Yes, that was my idea too to post on both. If nothing else to have a backup anyway.

[ColinWatters]

Can you tell us what the ratio of HH0 to Air is going into the engine? It looks like it makes 1L of HH0 per min so the ratio must be only 2000:1 or so?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

The goal is 100% HHO, Zero Fossil Fuel.

[dulcajack]

Great Work!!!

[december105]

angelfire????

[overunitydotcom]

Great video, ZFF !

Many thanks for putting a link up to overunity dot com on your angelfire site.

I will link back to you. Please keep us updated,

how you can convince your oxygen sensor in your car to consume less gasoline !

Many thanks and looking forward to see more of your great success!

Regards. Stefan.

[hoekf]

oooh...the ZFF gas-o-meter V2 ! fantastic ! good to see you back here BTW, great stuff !

[kingrs]

Hello ZFF,

I have done a lot of work on the Joe cell, one of the things I did see was a pulsing of the electrolyte like a breathing action.

[strapped9]

The comment section has been a problem for many videos. Is there any way I could buy two of these efie's from you? Sure would save me a headache.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Plans will be free. Donations are welcome. Units for sale are not possible without piercing my veil of anonymity, so no, I will not sell them.

[awaken69]

i think you should not measure the output of the O sensor not while switching the power to the HHO cell on or off, as this already influences the O sensor output only by the needed power to drive the HHO cell. instead, leave the HHO cell always on during measurement, and only switch the HHO gas to the motor on and off..