She never said that to Tuomas. She informed the band that she would do one more album and one more tour, then try a solo album and tour. Hell, Tuomas and ALL of the other members had their own bands on the side as well, but when Tarja wants to try it, they fire her.
Yeah, go ahead and believe their bullshit.
Tarja, Tuomas, and Emppu founded the band in 1996. NW is NOT NW without her, same as if they lost either Tuomas or Emppu. Hell, Jukka is pretty irreplaceable too.
SHE was a huge factor in their success. If she hadn't paved the way, NW would still be playing in tiny nightclubs in Kittee, and nobody here would be arguing about them because nobody here would have heard of them.
"She told Toumas she did not wanted nightwish anymore"
No, she told the band in Dec 2005 that she would be recording one more album and do one more tour with Nightwish, then she was going to try a solo album.
Perhaps if the guys weren't being such assholes to her she might have rejoined the band after a few years.
Regardless, there was absolutely NO good reason to fire her behind the stage of this concert, and no reason to drag her name and reputation through the dirt afterwards.
Tarja is the only singer that Nightwish had.if you are a true fan of nightwish you will give a chance to anette.your choice:past or present and future...
*cry* she was so good! The new singer is so... shes just the same as so many other singers, its not Nightwish anymore. Tuomas is still tres sexy though hehe. I dont know if NW will survive the change now.
I agree with Geth, Tarja was good BUT there are better out there! I doubt that the new singer will hurt the band. I think that it will expand Nightwish to other places that aren't so big on nightwish!
Prove it. What exactly did she do that makes you say that? What exactly did Tuomas say in his letter that proves what he's implying is true?
Tuomas makes the accusation, but never mentions what he's talking about. Reason for that is that he knew that accusation would cause the fans to lose respect for her, even without any evidence or facts. Fact is, it's a lie.
Read the fucking letter again, it doesn't say she DID cancel, Tuomas simply ACCUSES her of WANTING to cancel.
The concert in question, the show at the Rockefeller in Oslo on September 5, 2005, was performed as scheduled, even though they sold the tickets to the show before even asking if Tarja could add it to her schedule, as it was not on the original schedule.
She performed the fucking concert. Get your facts straight, bitch.
And lips, as I said, shithead Tuomas never even spoke to her about that concert, and twisted the words of her husband in order to make idiots like you hate her (and/or to spread bullshit about her).
I HAVE tried to like the new NW, but even ignoring all the hate towards Tarja on many of those videos, I can NOT stand Anette's voice in live performances.
Studio recordings of her aren't bad, although I highly doubt I'd ever buy DPP and play it in my car, whereas I'd have no problem listening to any older NW album while driving around town or on the highway.
They really screwed up when they fired her, and should have taken the advice of those who told them they should talk it over.
On top of all that, Tuomas never even spoke to Tarja about it, his manager, Ewo, emailed her husband.
After being a bit shocked that they added the concert without asking Tarja, he said that she had free time that day with nothing else scheduled.
Ewo then asked what she did in her free time, and Marcelo replied that she would hang out with friends, rehearse for her Christmas concert, go to the movies, etc.
Tuomas and Ewo then used THAT, which was an answer to a question as to what she did in her free time, and twisted it into a "reason for the cancellation", where;
A) The show was NOT cancelled
B) The answer was to the question of what Tarja did in her free time
C) Neither Tuomas nor Ewo spoke to Tarja, so how would either of them know what she WANTED?
Is this sort of idiotic bullshit that pisses me off, and makes me wonder how fucking stupid people are in the world to hate a person because someone posts some bullshit lie about them.
I bet you never even read the fucking letter, you just believe what someone else told you. If you DID read the letter, go back to school and study up on reading comprehension.
You find End of an Era to be AWKWARD? Hell, have you EVER seen Anette perform? She performs like she's never been onstage before, whereas Tarja has HUGE stage presense and acts like a total pro.
In fact, End of an Era is probably one of the BEST concerts ever captured on video.
You seem like a huge Anette fantard, and have no qualms about bashing Tarja just because it makes you feel like a "true fan".
Im not talking about the concerts. Its pretty clare that Tarja is better performer.
Im talking about the treat they had to each other on the documental, they didnt even talk, moments together were so weird, the guys joking around, and Tarja and Marcelo sitting on a corner. How can that be a happy band or whatever? I think they will never find anybody like tarja, for you to know... but it was time to let her go and to people stop bitching anette.
It was the band who chose to treat her that way, I don't think she asked them to ignore her and treat her like shit.
These are grown men acting like little boys, and thought nothing of mistreating a founding member of the band who was a huge reason why they were so successful to begin with, over petty jealousy, spitefullness, and ego.
They thought they could just dump her like a piece of garbage, and did.
Today, they are NOTHING close to what they were with her in the band.
Hey Melips you idiot, Tarja never cancelled a concert except for once when she was extremely ill. She performed a concert not long after her mom died, and came back to the stage after being sexually assaulted onstage in Mexico back around 2000.
So fuck you and your lying mouth about Tarja cancelling concerts to go to the movies. It's Anette that cancels concerts for nothing, she cancelled a lot of them in Oct last year for time off to perform with Pain, and walks off stages for no reason.
You can't even be honest about what you said here. It's not hard to scroll down through the comments and see what you actually said, in case you thought you could easily get away with a whopper of a lie.
This is a youtube pointless discussion about a girl who´s been out of nightwish for 4 years or something, and who´s never coming back...of course I want to get away, i´m so bored and sick of all this tarja/anette never ending war, created by all the tarja fans who cant resign to let her go...of nightwish. She´s not dead, she has an "album" or whatever, go click on her videos if you all hate nightwish so much.
What are you doing on a Nightwish video with Tarja if you dislike Tarja and the old NW so much? Go find a nice HEP HEP video to worship Anette on, in case you haven't noticed, Anette is NOT in this video.
Are stupid are you to find it odd that people speak about Tarja here, where Tarja is in this very video.
Jesus Christ Almight there are some seriously stupid people in this world, and you remind me of that each time you post to me.
You know I wont insult you back, because I dont feel like I have to.
I told you I dont hate Tarja for god´s sake, I said something bad about her, but I dont hate her, I dont hate anybody.
And I´m watching a NIGHTWISH video,
Nightwish is a band, not a singer. I just dont mind who is singing the lyrics. "Anette" wont go away even if some people complain, so why keep doing it?. We are not 5 years old.
this concert was the best of Nightwish
chopantura 1 year ago
I agree with Melips
. She told Toumas she did not wanted nightwish anymore, the band that made her famous.
She have an awesome voice...but screw her, I want to see if she´ll do as good as she did on nightwish
xPerryMx 2 years ago
She never said that to Tuomas. She informed the band that she would do one more album and one more tour, then try a solo album and tour. Hell, Tuomas and ALL of the other members had their own bands on the side as well, but when Tarja wants to try it, they fire her.
Yeah, go ahead and believe their bullshit.
Tarja, Tuomas, and Emppu founded the band in 1996. NW is NOT NW without her, same as if they lost either Tuomas or Emppu. Hell, Jukka is pretty irreplaceable too.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
SHE was a huge factor in their success. If she hadn't paved the way, NW would still be playing in tiny nightclubs in Kittee, and nobody here would be arguing about them because nobody here would have heard of them.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
"She told Toumas she did not wanted nightwish anymore"
No, she told the band in Dec 2005 that she would be recording one more album and do one more tour with Nightwish, then she was going to try a solo album.
Perhaps if the guys weren't being such assholes to her she might have rejoined the band after a few years.
Regardless, there was absolutely NO good reason to fire her behind the stage of this concert, and no reason to drag her name and reputation through the dirt afterwards.
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vigrestad93 2 years ago
the song on 4.12 is called high hopes
greetz
Gmorkful 2 years ago
what's the name of th song at 4:12 please tell me!!
CissaCheshire 2 years ago
this is a song by Pink Floyd. Its name is High hopes ;)
rebekakiss 2 years ago
too bad tarja left :(
thunderess9 2 years ago
whats the name of first song?
Relili2006 3 years ago
it's name is "Dark Chest Of Wonders"
lyneesww 3 years ago
holy shit!!!!! I hadn't had the chance to watch this video before.... and now I'm about to drop some tears...
enkelix 3 years ago
I wish i had been there that night...:(
myrtoulova 3 years ago
Beautiful
V4mpIr3L4dY 3 years ago 2
I LOVE THIS VIDIO!!!! it is great! she has an amazing voice! i wish i could hav seen her in concert.
musiclover6789 3 years ago
This video is GREAT!
tomsimon92 3 years ago
Tarja is legend!
What is the name of the song at 3:08. it is wonderful!
annielouscarlett 3 years ago 2
the song's name is "the siren".
prymavere 3 years ago
Tarja is legend!
...and Tuomas looks sooo good:)
annielouscarlett 3 years ago 6
What does Tarja say at 1:52 - 2:00?
iHaveATacoProduction 4 years ago
Hey hartwaal areena ! it would be great to see your hands in the air! come one ,everybody!
Lapsellinen 2 years ago
debile!!!!!
27natai 2 years ago
debileee!!!!
Lapsellinen 2 years ago
there are a lot of groups that lose cuality in concerts, but Nightwish not, garanty of quality ; )
Yionbiomega 4 years ago 2
I made this video. I edit this from the Helsinki concert. (End of an Era)
rebekakiss 4 years ago
woohooo you are the big man
Kobra39 4 years ago
where you get the vid from?
fro the dvd...or download it?
Oceanwhisperer 4 years ago
"Tarja is the best singer Nightwish ever had. no one can replace her.."
yeaaaaahhhhhhh
cyberdevilscorp 4 years ago 6
Tarja is the only singer that Nightwish had.if you are a true fan of nightwish you will give a chance to anette.your choice:past or present and future...
anushka14 4 years ago
i choose quality ...
nathaniell84 4 years ago 3
mazec
enafro 4 years ago
Tarja is the best singer Nightwish ever had. no one can replace her
dcccm 4 years ago 2
*cry* she was so good! The new singer is so... shes just the same as so many other singers, its not Nightwish anymore. Tuomas is still tres sexy though hehe. I dont know if NW will survive the change now.
serimouse 4 years ago 3
amen
Yionbiomega 4 years ago
a great vid. thanx it's like a sum up of the whole concert
faithfulover 4 years ago
they could have left her be in the band and simply add somewone with supriano voice that would be awsome having her with another woman, i reckon
lorisa7 4 years ago
they didnt like her attitude basically and aparantly she was only after money.
but now they have lost the best singer they will ever have
Ploppy116 5 years ago
how are you so certain? Tarja's good and all but there is better
Gethsemane22 5 years ago
there's no one better
Polonium36 4 years ago
I agree with Geth, Tarja was good BUT there are better out there! I doubt that the new singer will hurt the band. I think that it will expand Nightwish to other places that aren't so big on nightwish!
Squallx14 4 years ago
" aparantly she was only after money."
Prove it. What exactly did she do that makes you say that? What exactly did Tuomas say in his letter that proves what he's implying is true?
Tuomas makes the accusation, but never mentions what he's talking about. Reason for that is that he knew that accusation would cause the fans to lose respect for her, even without any evidence or facts. Fact is, it's a lie.
justanamehere 2 years ago
who cares?
a person (tarja) that cancel a sold out show bucause wants to go to the movies is not a nice person, is a bitch.
Im glad they fired her.
Melips 2 years ago
That is a lie, and it never happened.
Read the fucking letter again, it doesn't say she DID cancel, Tuomas simply ACCUSES her of WANTING to cancel.
The concert in question, the show at the Rockefeller in Oslo on September 5, 2005, was performed as scheduled, even though they sold the tickets to the show before even asking if Tarja could add it to her schedule, as it was not on the original schedule.
She performed the fucking concert. Get your facts straight, bitch.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
She wanting to do that just proves she had no respect to her fans.
Why should I respect someone that doesnt give a fuck about me?
Melips 2 years ago
And lips, as I said, shithead Tuomas never even spoke to her about that concert, and twisted the words of her husband in order to make idiots like you hate her (and/or to spread bullshit about her).
Yeah, you surely are a genius aren't you.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
and stop insulting me, you are acting like if im talking about your mother xD
Melips 2 years ago
I like Tarja, and I like the original NW, so when I see someone post the typical lies about her and call her a bitch, it pisses me off.
Same bullshit, different day.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
In conclusion:
We both think nobody will replace her.
But I think people should be open minded and give new NW a try.
So...why are we still arguin? =s
Melips 2 years ago
I HAVE tried to like the new NW, but even ignoring all the hate towards Tarja on many of those videos, I can NOT stand Anette's voice in live performances.
Studio recordings of her aren't bad, although I highly doubt I'd ever buy DPP and play it in my car, whereas I'd have no problem listening to any older NW album while driving around town or on the highway.
They really screwed up when they fired her, and should have taken the advice of those who told them they should talk it over.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
On top of all that, Tuomas never even spoke to Tarja about it, his manager, Ewo, emailed her husband.
After being a bit shocked that they added the concert without asking Tarja, he said that she had free time that day with nothing else scheduled.
Ewo then asked what she did in her free time, and Marcelo replied that she would hang out with friends, rehearse for her Christmas concert, go to the movies, etc.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
Tuomas and Ewo then used THAT, which was an answer to a question as to what she did in her free time, and twisted it into a "reason for the cancellation", where;
A) The show was NOT cancelled
B) The answer was to the question of what Tarja did in her free time
C) Neither Tuomas nor Ewo spoke to Tarja, so how would either of them know what she WANTED?
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
Is this sort of idiotic bullshit that pisses me off, and makes me wonder how fucking stupid people are in the world to hate a person because someone posts some bullshit lie about them.
I bet you never even read the fucking letter, you just believe what someone else told you. If you DID read the letter, go back to school and study up on reading comprehension.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
I never said I hated her, I dont hate anybody, not even you fuckin ass hole.
She got FIRED, they didnt wanted to, but they did bcuz she became really annoying. You can tell how awkward everything was on the DVD.
She wanted to fly solo, deal with it.
Thats it.
Melips 2 years ago
You find End of an Era to be AWKWARD? Hell, have you EVER seen Anette perform? She performs like she's never been onstage before, whereas Tarja has HUGE stage presense and acts like a total pro.
In fact, End of an Era is probably one of the BEST concerts ever captured on video.
You seem like a huge Anette fantard, and have no qualms about bashing Tarja just because it makes you feel like a "true fan".
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
Im not talking about the concerts. Its pretty clare that Tarja is better performer.
Im talking about the treat they had to each other on the documental, they didnt even talk, moments together were so weird, the guys joking around, and Tarja and Marcelo sitting on a corner. How can that be a happy band or whatever? I think they will never find anybody like tarja, for you to know... but it was time to let her go and to people stop bitching anette.
Melips 2 years ago
It was the band who chose to treat her that way, I don't think she asked them to ignore her and treat her like shit.
These are grown men acting like little boys, and thought nothing of mistreating a founding member of the band who was a huge reason why they were so successful to begin with, over petty jealousy, spitefullness, and ego.
They thought they could just dump her like a piece of garbage, and did.
Today, they are NOTHING close to what they were with her in the band.
IDislikeCowards 2 years ago
Hey Melips you idiot, Tarja never cancelled a concert except for once when she was extremely ill. She performed a concert not long after her mom died, and came back to the stage after being sexually assaulted onstage in Mexico back around 2000.
So fuck you and your lying mouth about Tarja cancelling concerts to go to the movies. It's Anette that cancels concerts for nothing, she cancelled a lot of them in Oct last year for time off to perform with Pain, and walks off stages for no reason.
justanamehere 2 years ago
oh my god.
I said I love her, I said i miss her, but she´s is GONE.
Get the fuck over it.
Jesus...
Melips 2 years ago
"I said I love her, I said i miss her"
Uh, no. You wrote the following words;
"not a nice person, is a bitch.
Im glad they fired her. "
You can't even be honest about what you said here. It's not hard to scroll down through the comments and see what you actually said, in case you thought you could easily get away with a whopper of a lie.
justanamehere 2 years ago
This is a youtube pointless discussion about a girl who´s been out of nightwish for 4 years or something, and who´s never coming back...of course I want to get away, i´m so bored and sick of all this tarja/anette never ending war, created by all the tarja fans who cant resign to let her go...of nightwish. She´s not dead, she has an "album" or whatever, go click on her videos if you all hate nightwish so much.
Melips 2 years ago
Melips,
What are you doing on a Nightwish video with Tarja if you dislike Tarja and the old NW so much? Go find a nice HEP HEP video to worship Anette on, in case you haven't noticed, Anette is NOT in this video.
Are stupid are you to find it odd that people speak about Tarja here, where Tarja is in this very video.
Jesus Christ Almight there are some seriously stupid people in this world, and you remind me of that each time you post to me.
justanamehere 2 years ago
You know I wont insult you back, because I dont feel like I have to.
I told you I dont hate Tarja for god´s sake, I said something bad about her, but I dont hate her, I dont hate anybody.
And I´m watching a NIGHTWISH video,
Nightwish is a band, not a singer. I just dont mind who is singing the lyrics. "Anette" wont go away even if some people complain, so why keep doing it?. We are not 5 years old.
Melips 2 years ago
why did they fire her again??
sargingbanana 5 years ago