Emissions Test: Car vs. Truck vs. Leaf Blower

[darinsargent25]

I want this video on my Hurricane II phone.

[siljan1208]

you should rev the Ford at the same RPM as the Fiat and then make your measurements, you are comparing two vehicles with different engine sizes. The Fiat is probably at 4-5000 rpm and the raptor at around 2000 rpm at a speed of 75mph. The Fiat is a European city car which is made for inner city speed limits not highway driving.

[josif888]

Measure the air speed from the leafblower and rev the ford till the exhaust air speed reaches the leafblower speed then measure the emissions. FAKE! :P

[drfrisker]

a two stroke uses oil, of course it is going to have worse emissions

[tdogg965]

I live in Maryland . Our emission test consist of plugging into the vehicles computer , if you have a logged code , you fail , no codes you pass . Doesn't matter what the vehicle is emitting or not .

[Pegde]

don't support the downsizing of the engines. V8 is a good way to go!

[CerebrumPedere]

I would take the Raptor and run over the car thus making it a Flat 500

[jmzw20]

Interesting that the Fiat 500 is only registered as LEVII in CA, while the Raptor's V8 is ULEVII. The Raptor also uses Air-Fuel Ratio sensors and 2 catalysts (one per 4 cylinder bank, I'd imagine), while the 500 uses an O2 sensor (or lambda, narrow-band) and 1 catalyst.

HCs are important, but they aren't the whole story. The carbon monoxide coming out of the Raptor suggests more fuel is being burned than the Fiat 500's. HCs can be removed by a complete engine burn and good catalytic converters

[TheScLaurens]

You Americans are so arrogant and naive, of course the Fiat 500 is better for the environment than a big V8.

Penis size doesn't grow with engine size.

Nor does intelligence.

NO WONDER you people can't win any wars convincingly...

@ InsideLineVideo: this was an Idiotic video. The Fiat 500 is even greener than that stupid Prius.

[1vdn992]

@TheScLaurens We can't win a war, why don't you start one with US and see what happens, ASSHOLE

[TheScLaurens]

@1vdn992 Go cry like a baby. You wouldn't even have an army if it wasn't for the german, french and belgian scientists that came to usa during the second world war.

[TheArfdog]

@TheScLaurens You mean all the Jewish German, French, and Belgian scientists... because you didnt' want them. LMAO. We are American, we welcome all.

[WOTGSXR]

@TheScLaurens You can't argue facts pal, nice stereotype towards Americans though. I will admit it was a nice try, too bad penis size doesn't increase will bullshit opinions or you would be one hung mother fucker

[WOTGTP98]

@TheScLaurens why you so butthurt little guy? sorry your little fiat sucks dick AND makes you look homo. Doesnt matter how big the motor is. If it has good technology it can still be incredibly clean. Obviously fiat just hasnt caught on. But its okay. Take your anger out on the who United States. See who gives two shits

[bubbafatt]

@TheScLaurens This is not a troll ... this is not a troll. I have to say in terms of actual fuel used (economy) hell yea the 500 is so much better then the v8 in the raptor. but the problem is the engine technology in the fiat. i don't know about the fiats engine but ford has been continually upgrading and re designing the technology in the engine making it more efficient in terms of the processing the fuel to use more of it. i think fiat should look into better and cleaner engine tech

[TheScLaurens]

@bubbafatt if you have to live with the emissions of the ford you're death in 2 days. CO is the killing factor. All the other gasses don't hurt the envirnoment so much as CO. Become a scientist or read a science website or magazine and you'll see... Why do you think all european car magazines don't test or publish other emission gasses except for CO and CO2.... because these are the most pulloting... NOx and NMHC are nutrients for algae, and other sea plants. It doesn't matter to test these...

[bubbafatt]

@TheScLaurens Unlike the rest of these assholes, you actually provide a factual argument that deals in fact and not penis size. I appreciate the facts you have supplied. though i would not go out and buy a ford truck for the simple reason. That i am not some sister loving, bucktoothed, trailer trash, dick obsessed, redneck like most of the prior commentators, and trucks are not my life.If indeed someone reads this and falls into only one of these categories, i apologize for the stereotyping.Not.

[bubbafatt]

@TheScLaurens I would not , Buy a fiat 500 also for the fact that, A. I might be a stereotypical fat american that might not fit behind the wheel. B. Dont care for the looks.

and lastly C. I am in lust with the Citreon DS3 racing.

[TheScLaurens]

@bubbafatt like the DS3 racing

Prefer Renault Clio RS.

How is it possible you know Citroen? They are not sold in usa.

[bubbafatt]

@TheScLaurens I remember my first citroen on this racing game called Need for Speed 2. SE I believe on the outback map (the 2CV).(Based on the austrailian outback.) It was this horrible looking thing in the game. Out of the game it looks somewhat better.. When i first heard of the DS3 racing, it was on the news portion of top gear. Short story is i had to adjust my pants when they showed it (kidding). Thats when i fell in love. Although the Clio RS is quite good looking also.

[theonlylolking]

@TheScLaurens We were trying to stop the violence in Iraq. Ever war when it came to taking over land or stopping enemies the USA has won. Any war that has nothing to do with one of those things we do not do so well in.

[DualofChaos]

I will now show this to any one who thinks that V8's are killing the world. Tiny little fiats and all other econoboxes are the antichrist

[jerbrerizz94]

The problem here is pussy ass tree hugging hippies only read rhetoric that strengthens their fictional intellect toward their opposition. I really want to see the Ford go up against a Subaru that so many weak wristed types drive. You would think that Subarus run on pixie dust and rainbows when you debate these zealots.... Hopefully they will read this story from the newspaper in the coffee shop while their pounding their bleeding hearts agenda on an ipad sipping overpriced coffee...

[sspope]

This video proves that there is no replacement for displacement.

[2008calander]

One of those things that sad but true. They even probably used new leaf blowers as well. Not the old dirty pieces of shit every landscaper uses.

[FateCarver]

I wonder if I can order that as an extra package on my raptor? (leaf blower trim) Sweet! =D

[1vdn992]

Carbon dioxide CO2 and carbon monoxide CO are sometimes confused. They are quite different in their effects on humans.

Carbon dioxide CO2 is present in the atmosphere today at 385 parts per million (by volume) or 0.039 percent. 50 years ago it was 280 parts per million. The increase is caused by people burning things, especially fuels - coal, oil, and natural gas, especially coal. Burning wood also puts CO2 in the atmosphere.

[1vdn992]

Almost all life is dependent on plants getting CO2 from the atmosphere. That's where the carbon in wood and leaves comes from.

Human and animals breathe in air, take some of the oxygen from it (air is 20 percent oxygen), and breathe out a mixture that includes CO2 obtained by combining part of ones food with oxygen.

[1vdn992]

Air can be about 5 percent CO2, from a stuffy room, before people become uncomfortable. According to the Wikipedia article, amounts above 800 ppm are considered unhealthy, amounts above 5,000 ppm are considered very unhealthy, and those above about 50,000 ppm are considered dangerous to animal life.

Carbon monoxide CO, unlike CO2, is a bad poison. CO is produced by incomplete combustion, i.e. when there isn't enough oxygen to make CO2, you get CO.

[Evolution20v]

CO2 are completely safe for humans and animals, you produce it every time you breath out or fart. Its all the other gases and particles that are toxic.

[1vdn992]

You'd have to drive a Raptor 235 miles — stopping every 505 seconds and doing cold restarts — to emit the same level of hydrocarbons as simply idling the two-stroke leaf blower for less than 10 minutes.

[1vdn992]

Clearly, engine displacement plays little part in the concentrations of these pollutants. Consider that the Fiat 500 produced more than double the NOx and more than three times the hydrocarbons of the truck.

[1vdn992]

A close look at the vehicles' underhood emissions labels sheds further light — the Fiat 500 is classed as LEV-II, whereas the Raptor in California trim is ULEV-II. The Raptor's emissions control equipment is simply more capable. It's only in the production of carbon dioxide (CO2) — not yet directly regulated by EPA or CARB — where the Raptor is the higher emitter.

[1vdn992]

It's worth noting that the load on the dyno rollers is adjusted to reflect the aerodynamics and drivetrain loss of the vehicle being tested. So the Raptor is indeed being asked to work harder at a given speed than the Fiat, just as they'd do in the real world.

[1vdn992]

They also compared the 6.2L Ford to a 1.4L Fiat you morons, and what were the results?

[JETZcorp]

Two-strokes are superior to everything. They make massive power out of a tiny package and with relatively very few moving parts. Their emissions problem has been fixed with direct-injection, which makes them comparable to four-strokes in that category.

[2012GT500Supersnake]

long live the V8!

[GlaciusNLV]

Hurrr durrr the 2 stroke engine was the dirtiest. 2 stroke engines have 2 stroke OIL mixed in with the FUEL. What the fuck were you smoking when you thought up this concept?

[randomhero713]

Raptor sounds better than a leaf blower too

[mattcat234]

That was a pointless waste of time... Insideline find something better to do... I don't want lawn equipment tests from an automotive reviewer...

[miketothesupra]

they should see what Honda can do.

[asdfgoogle]

Or... add a catalytic converter to your leaf blower?

[bloximonkey]

Why is the leaf blower dirty? Isn't it just a big hair dryer?

[camaroman101]

@bloximonkey these tested were gasoline powered, not the electric ones

[bloximonkey]

@camaroman101 And why would anyone want those?

[camaroman101]

@bloximonkey more power and blowing capability *grunts like Tim Allen*

[oaeproductions]

i was hoping they would dyno the leaf blower :(

[Ch28Kid]

They did that on MythBuster. COPY CAT!

[zerx125]

@Ch28Kid Not really. The mythbusters onewas between motorcycles and cars not a leaf blower vs a v8.

[VinnyGuana]

this has nothing to do with life....

[MrTONYTONYM]

Alright lets produce V16 or V32 engines to save the planet!

[ronmann606]

Greenhouse gasses aren't on the list, I bet the Raptor would have by far the most

[PerformanceCars1FCH1]

@ronmann606 I am verry sure that CO (which they abriviated for C02) is infact a greenhouse gass. also Hydrocarbons are not only a green house gas they are toxic. The reason the raptor did so well is because it was able to burn the fuel more completely. 

[yliaDenaLtsaF]

@PerformanceCars1FCH1 CO is carbon monoxide, CO2 is cardon dioxide. CO is is much worse for the environment then CO2 I am pretty sure.

[ronmann606]

@PerformanceCars1FCH1 LOL @ "very sure". Everything you said is wrong. CO is highly toxic and not CO2, and is not a greenhouse gas. Traces of hydrocarbons aren't a greenhouse gas. I was just saying the Raptor is the worst for global warming.

[PerformanceCars1FCH1]

@ronmann606 Yep I was reminded of that. For some reason I forgot that Oxygen did not need to double bond to a Carbon. Chemistry fail :P

[asdfgoogle]

@ronmann606 Probably because it uses more fuel, huh? lol.

[wwaalltthheerr]

where did you get your conventional wisdom? Did you even attend a college? Because right about the last days of middle school you should have known that the bigger the engine -> the cleaner the exhaust emissions . And if you consider an amount of pollution per unit of power the number are even higher. That pick up truck per unit of power has lower emissions than Prius and yet Prius cannot pull a ton of shit to the dump site, and Ford does not require toxic batteries.

[regiyankee]

this is all bullshit so to save the planet we need more and bigger gasoline engines ? mother fuckers sold their souls to manufacturers

[undeadkillers]

@regiyankee No they're just implying that even with a big engine you can achive clean emissions.

[wwaalltthheerr]

@regiyankee no, you did not purchase your brain yet. The trains that have huge smoly diesel engines pollute less per unit of power and per lb. of weight they pull (deliver your tofu and couscous) than a fucking Prius. The so called clean vehicles do one unimportant thing and that's all- they take you to a green douchebag circle jerk once a week. Large engine trucks on the other hand can do that plus million other things ( that are actually necessary) and pollute less than Leaf or Prius.

[NegativeNumbers427]

Lets just get this straight.

If you have the Fiat, you should turn in your humanity and cry in a corner...

[dickcheese663]

Complete combustion = more Power/Efficiency "Volumetric Efficiency" go out and smell a 1995 Chevy V8 pick up truck...gross smell and weak power compared to emissions and power of the Ford EcoBoost V6... but i'd still rather have a 1969 Ford Fairlane 500 fastback with a 460 Big Block blown to HELL or a 1971 Impala SS

[integrafreak1]

If i want to go green i'll buy a bike.

[tinleo333]

@integrafreak1 or a prius is the cleanest car

[sdlausen]

@integrafreak1 According to Mythbusters, bikes emit way more emissions than a conventional automobile. Look it up.

[integrafreak1]

1:10 those look like blackberry glasses!!

[davidRios622]

In cars is not important the size of an engine, but is important how you drive it.

[Ripside2]

Top gear said this in the Porsche 911 turbo review.

[jaretkady]

@Ripside2 And a Saab review!

[wwaalltthheerr]

@Ripside2 and BMW M5 vs. Prius : prius used more gas than M5.

[GhostCell07]

Leaf blowers are killing the planets polar bears. This is why we should all have V8s.

[wwaalltthheerr]

@GhostCell07 there are enough Polar Bears to provide every home in Canada with Polar Bear floor mat and there will be enough left to serve as lunch meat to every employee of every oil rig owned by Al Gore.

[tucfinland]

How about CO2 emissions?

[Slacking02]

so your gunna use a gas leaf blower as a turbo?

[soroboro8]

interesting.. 

[1vdn992]

R-i-g-h-t, a 6000 lb full size Ford pick-up with a 420 hp 6.2L engine puts out less pollution than a 15 lb 0.05L leaf blower, that's not impressive. All you flunkys need to go back to school.

[fackyoudude]

@1vdn992 Well, the reason for this is the blowers are less efficient. Car manufacturers actually have to utilize a lot of optimization (such as 4 stroke vs 2, and direct injection, etc.) for and in many sense. Long story short, this was expected. However, this also proved that ford raptor has better environmental tech on its ENGINE than the Fiat 500. u need to know more about critical thinking and research.

[1vdn992]

@fackyoudude A 5.0L Mustang GT with 412 hp gets 17 city and pollutes substantially less than a 4.0L BMW M3 with 414 hp that gets 14 city, is that a better comparison?

[fackyoudude]

@1vdn992 I would say no, because now you are comparing the CAR, not the ENGINE.However, if we were to compare the CAR, then yes, mpg is a good/fair indicator.

[1vdn992]

@fackyoudude "Now are you high or just stupid? An M3 against a Mustang GT? On a racetrack? Seriously, son, which one is it? High or stupid?"

4.0L BMW V8, CO2 Emissions, 1.20 lb/mile

5.0L Ford V8, CO2 Emissions, 0.96 lb/mile

Motor Trend, 2011 Mustang GT vs BMW M3

[fackyoudude]

@1vdn992 hmmm, I like ur corner of ignorant. u r compare the CAR as an unit. I just told you, the way this video is comparing is """ENGINE"""" or """"DRIVETRAIN"""" as a unit. So the image of the car is pointless. This is more about Emission Tech comparison. For the argument sake, the way you shit doesn't necessary = the way you eat, but ur overall behavior as a person (the whole car) is just as bad. get it? did you even pass high school?

[1vdn992]

@fackyoudude It looks like Ford knows how to build clean burning vehicles, the compact Fiat failed to burn as clean as Fords high performance pickup the Raptor, but that's not setup for real world use, actually an engine dyno would be a much more accurate way to analyze exhaust emissions, the vast array of other engineering variables aren't important at all, you're right, and comparing the Raptor to a smoky leaf blower that burns about as clean as your ass is just childish.

[dickcheese663]

@1vdn992 i know a bunch of peeps getting close to 30mpg's on the highway in both of those rad cars.

[DIPSH1TLOSER]

How much did ford pay you?

[TJPark01]

The test is seriously flawed. The majority of a car's pollution comes at cold start when the cats and everything else on the car is cold and inefficient.

[kaynd]

Unless someone understands the concept of ppm readings, this test is completely misleading. The V8 raptor can me a more refined engine, but still produces a grater total amount of emissions than a significantly smaller engine. eg what you find in the fiat 500.

[julingy]

lol. that video sure tells the whole story.... NAAT. lol now a whole bunch of rednecks are going to think there big trucks are environmental..... thats just what we need

[Evilliboba]

Interesting video.

Now I feel like going outside and take a run in my 302 V8 powered Mark VII that I took the catalytic converters off of. Smells like victory.

[MrLastDanny]

@Evilliboba YES!

[stegomon]

raptor=going green!!!!!!!!!!! sweeet :)

[09166410632]

take it to the state referee...

[ApexIXMR]

Wait 'till the government finds out about this test. They'll be regulating our lawn equipment.

[DoInIcKyS197]

That's cuz Ford is the shit..

[chispaculpable343]

of course so everybody just buy a v8 to be kind whit the enviroment hey how about a v12... fucking morons.

[EpiclyLost]

i give a redneck 4 hours to make a raptor leaf blower

[EngineeringExplained]

What a deceiving and biased test. Sure, the leaf blowers had poor emissions but there's no catalytic converter. Also, why does the test not mention CO2, ohhh, because obviously the FIAT did much better than the 6.2L Ford, and that would mean results that InsideLine didn't want to post about...

[toofast907]

@EngineeringExplained they actually posted the numbers @2:23

[EngineeringExplained]

@toofast907 Yes, they post the numbers, but they fail to include the largest part of emissions - CO2. Also, units would be nice. 0.276 doesn't mean anything without units.

[TeamEpsilonRacing]

@EngineeringExplained how about you go test it for yourself and make your own youtube channel and you can then post the CO2 results to satisfy yourself.....

[EngineeringExplained]

@TeamEpsilonRacing Or InsideLine could post them, as I'm sure they have the figures. I do have my own channel; it's educational to teach people about cars who have an interest and want some easy to follow explanations about them. Though I don't have the equipment nor the cars to do this test on my own. Ford has done a great job of improving their emissions, but this is the wrong way of presenting it.

[thekkl]

@EngineeringExplained Are you serious? That would be like if we had two cars and we were doing a power test to see which has more power and when mine wins you say it's a biased test because I have a supercharger.

Just because you can explain why the one that wins wins doesn't mean it's no longer a fair test. I mean, it's not like this is a test of skill or anything.

[EngineeringExplained]

@thekkl Perhaps you should learn up a little bit on combustion. InsideLine is claiming that the 6.2L has better emissions than the Fiat's engine which is more than 4 times smaller. Put fuel in, get CO2 and H2O out. That's the basics. The more fuel you burn, the more emissions you have. Now are you going to tell me that an engine 4 times larger burns less fuel? No. Ford did a great job, but don't think you're saving the planet by driving a 6.2L truck...

[theonlylolking]

@EngineeringExplained You can save the planet by buying diesel because it takes less fuel to make diesel. So much less that if you own a prius you are doing more harm to the environment than someone in a diesel.

[JaySee5]

What a stupid test! Why not make it equal and take out the catalytic convertors in the car and truck? You're also comparing 2 strokes to 4 stroke motors.

[1vdn992]

@JaySee5 Yeah, whutsa matta dem, thay dun cumpair a 0.05L 1 sillinder leef blowher to a 6.2L V8 Ford Truck Engine, dats jus STOOPID.

[garytherival]

Great idea and great video. Any chance you could show us the power output per unit emission for the engines? That would be an interesting comparison.

[MaxxPainII]

Wow , great vid. Cant believe the Raptor is that clean.

[MustanGT2003]

eat shit toyota prius

[ImHereToAnnoyYou]

Nonsense. The Fiat is obviously the cleanest when you're talking about Carbon Monoxide which is important. The fact that the Raptor made 5 parts per thousand less NOx's than the Fiat is of no consequence seeing as that's the same as the most polluting 2-stroke leafblower. Cleaner than the air going in? Yeah in non-monoxide hydrocarbons due to a cat. The Fiat produces 3x less CO2 than the Ford too

You wait and wait thinking "humm interesting..." then boom, they ruin it with silly interpretation.

[GeckoMoria94]

One of the crappiest things ive ever heard. Who paid you?!??

[wielkooki]

leaf blowers have no filters of co2 or something like that and emission of co2 is bigger than in smal fiat Im sure that after 2 years ford will have much bigger emission because of big engine

[dirtykkkoon]

Still a piece of shit in the open, and the drivers.

Just sayn

[2003SCT]

If they were to add Direct Injection to the 6.2 it would be even cleaner AND have less start-up emissions which is where the majority of bad stuff comes from...at start up.

[2003SCT]

I think the same comparison used to made with motorcycles (almost none of which had emissions equipment on them per usual) vs. a car with a catalytic converter. The assumption was that a bike with a tiny motor would be much better for the environment than say a car...but the inverse was true...bikes esp. 2 strokes are quite dirty and much larger displacement than something like a leaf blower. It was just a comparo to show how clean cars are now and how surprisingly dirty some things can be.

[cb7pwn]

this whole "lbs per mile" emissions thing is a JOKE, what does that even mean!?.. its all made up non sense to get us spending more money we DONT HAVE on crap like electric/ hybrid cars

[wildbloodydragon]

@cb7pwn Yeah lbs per mile sounds pretty dumb. lbs is a weight unit, not a mass unit.

Grams per mile or grams per kilometer sound better. It is used as a unit for the total mass of the smog emitted from the vehicle every mile.

Hybrid cars are a bigger hazard to the environment than any gasoline engine can possibly be.

[newengland72]

2-Stroke FTW.

[Mawerik024]

The 500 throws out marginally more NMHC and NOx but a whole lot less carbon monoxide, which is way more toxic. How can you say that "overall" the Raptor is less polluting than the 500?

[forrestang]

My goal is to become wealthy enough so that I can purchase a private jet, and allow it to idle on a runway for 24 hours/day.

[Srbabiruso]

@forrestang Yeah! Wasting money and pollution are awesome! Sick brooo!

[seroyer2]

@forrestang The Sultan of Brunei had a fleet of Rolls-Royces that he kept running 24 hours/day year round, just in case he had to drive some where.

[DJzSith]

Isnt the fat guy that Chuck retard from the dicovery show?

[gripracer]

this is some serious gearhead entertainment. awesome idea

[OtherVincentLee]

i am going to set my leaf blower on full throttle for a couple of hours.

[ratmtbola]

No shit, the tiny leaf blower has a higher percentage of CO2 in its emissions? WOW! Did you also consider the fact that the huge truck blows out like 50 times more emissions every minute than that tiny leaf blower?

[hkkhnyc]

***the conclusion is NOT how clean the Raptor is

but how pollute the leafblowers are

[Dccole3214]

@hkkhnyc Ya it is, didn't you hear him say there were less carbons coming out the pipe than were in the air.

[ILikeReallyBigButts]

Now they have to make a V8 Raptor powered leaf blower.

[dandzprod]

@ILikeReallyBigButts I'd buy it!

[wildbloodydragon]

@ILikeReallyBigButts . I wouldn't mind hearing THAT at 9am.

[PL3690]

@ILikeReallyBigButts OR a V8 2 stroke Ford Raptor..It will be a bit dirty though..

[InitialDAmine]

No seriously ! a 2 strock engine pollute more than a 4 strock engines!wow! not to mention that the cars has catalytic exausths where the leafblower does not The CO/CO2 and NOx emission that matters when it comes to polution yet you compare NMHC???! So what you want to say is that Ford raptor is a clean car, is that the conclusion you are trying to get? No seriously!

[MrOgusa]

take my v8 cleaning power leafs!!! when i say clean i mean it!!

[6alalio]

Someone ran out of ideas...

[driftoholik]

I can clearly see bigger CO2 emissions in Raptor..

[nightpwner]

That's awesome

[arashn89]

2500th!

[starksy17]

What a useless video.. we subscribe to you for car tests reviews and comparisons. not to see how much carbon dioxide we emit into the atmosphere when we cut the grass.

[FrencunoZeTroll]

17th!

[KaikovH]

first!

[yamenad]

@KaikovH So?