Killing Joke - Change

[The911fella]

im 47, still listen to these...and this was my favourite track to dance to...what a top band,,,they should make a comeback

[kieron63]

@The911fella

They still goin strong mate. Original band touring new album March.

[The911fella]

@kieron63 just seen theyre on in March in Manchester....happy days...whoop whoop!!

[jrh2063]

omg, some peeps still do not see how Killing Joke created a genre on their own. Never mind all their songs being ripped off (well I guess that is a compliment to KJ to get ripped off - probably the biggest musical compliment ever).Killing Joke is legend (speaking as a professional musician as well). Awesome music creativity and ofc Geordie Walker is a legend guitarist, I really hope KJ gerts recognised one day for being a legend and

[90038jhon]

great song. wonderful. who cares who ripped whom off, this is great stuff

[ColdOasisU2]

that riff (it similar to may other riffs) but it reminds of the song by LCD Sondsystem looking for my edge or something like that

[TheDamned999]

Double A sided for me

[casestudyification]

Excuse my ignorance, but what's with all the INXS comparisons?

[ciaobella65]

Agreed, Agreed, Agreed



[posyanne64]

Oh awesome !!

[TGvision]

"Change," which was the B-side to "Requiem," totally rips off

"Me and Baby Brother" by War, but it's great! See for yourself:

Me and Baby Brother WAR.wmv

watch?v=U4n551Bsn7o

[bucklemunki]

chicken war dance.pre-cursor to Dnb ...

[KurtMcGowan]

I fucking love this song x

[musicman89503]

Let's face it, Killing Joke is a kick ass band. I'm just sorry to have never seen them in concert. I've never heard any cover of a Killing Joke song (thank God). I also would not compare INXS to Killing Joke it's apples, and oranges.

[dlloyd121]

He made me think it was cool to wear a boiler suit

[MrSKINFLICK]

I have "Change" as a DEMO-SINGLE which they sold at their concerts in the early 80s - NO JOKE. The sound and the riff-master-solo is much much better ! Some demos get neglected by record companies + i suppose it made them so pissed off that they pressed the demo single for sale at the concerts !

[cat22ctkings]

When Killing Joke was on stage, THEY TOOK OVER!!!

I remember a concert of them in the early 80's in Holland.

The crowd went INSANE!!

Indeed they are under appreciated........

[cleveroonie]

i had this on 12" vinal - thanks for letting me hear it again - sounds awesome played loud as it should be

[JasonBNYC]

I LOVE Killing Joke and this is an awesome song . . . but it is a pretty blatant ripoff of this

youtube.com/watch?v=Wf5d0x-NtV­o

[HoosierMF]

@JasonBNYC You're totally right. And to think they tried to sue Nirvana for plagiarism

[pawnoir]

@JasonBNYC Oh my God ! You are absolutely right !

(I'm myself a big fan of Killing Joke)

[feralpriest]

inxs???????????? hahahaha thats cheered me up no end.....KJ along with Discharge, conflict et al inspired lame metal fans to invent thrash...IMO.

[hag1100]

class

[ENDEUARABIA]

ye Change and we have had Constant ''change'' / Novelty and nothing changes

That' the Frankfurt School for you

[MrLennongrad]

great sound and how pretty from crusher

[zap2566]

classic,still got the 12 inch version,actually tried to sell it months ago but the 2ndhand rcord shop said, "nah mate,its wortless!"..............some have no taste or knowledge.

[whitehorsemunching]

only, there was darkness, no light, and there was screaming...... revulsion was the act of the day - so, brave brothers, think on. what it must be like to tear yourself from parts that Allah can not even think of, and then, if you even get to heaven, what it must be like to ascend with those you have murdered.? (?)..... question....

[whitehorsemunching]

I have never 'liked' killing joke, 'like' was never an option. Either 'in' or 'out'. Love or hate - too bland..... every time i descend into madness, k.j. follows/leads me, along with bible revelations. - hello, god is here to fuck it all up for you - and then, there is damaged parts of britain, and

i am still recovering from a flash that was not atomic, but, the next step.....

*cough* Hell has descended unto, yay, my brothers and sisters, unto an earthly plane.

[michaelgeorgewatson]

MAGIC

[nancy18901]

infectious!

[liennto]

ive got this 7 inch... requiem other side.......... in the crate party starter

[misternylon]

I was on a 100 thousand strong rally against the bomb in Trafalger square in October 1980 and had actual shivers up my spine when they played this live.

Never seen a crowd move like a sea before, it was truly awesome.

[CaptainFootos]

I certainly commented on this before, but I still gotta say it again... This vid is the hot shit. The BEST KJ-fanvid I ever saw. Long live the JOKE!

[FACTUNTHJU]

great quality sound

its great when people upload quality

thanks

[rescorza71]

best Killing Joke song ever

[CRAPCANNONS]

Did LCD Sound System lift this? 2:15

/watch?v=I_j8BG-ybng

[Maximillion666]

Why do i feel like i'm losing my edge :P Points for anyone who gets that joke

[tnoo17]

to the kids from...france...

lcd baby

[Noonanio]

Ha Thats life in the shadows for ya! I know I am not the first to spot the irony in your remark - when KJ lifted the hook from the War Classic 'Me and Baby Brother'...

[reduxAo1]

@jmiester25

I used to be a roadie for KJ back in the 80's. Highly original, but could I suggest that there is more than a passing resemblance between Change and this track from the 70's? War - Me and Baby brother 1974

[leftylion]

saw them in 1981 I think, awesome, scary fcks

[nicelydestroyed]

VeryCO0l!

C l a s s i c :D

[WilfulDays]

Change ..is good :)

[erictheviking871]

i love killing joke but this and requiem are still the best for me , may be because it has significent memories for me , but that 12 inch got some rotation back then .

[stoneygraved]

fuckin awesome! If there's one band they influenced & this track fully i reckon - is Nomeansno....

[robashito]

awesome work and yes, props to Killing Joke.

[ant0nee0]

.

NOW

.

[jeffdeanable]

INXS. Sheesh.

[nerfstuntman]

Love the riff at 1:15-1:17 - heard that in maybe '82 or '83 and I was hooked!

[hoptonmitch]

Fuckin sound

[keilan303]

0:17 fucking love that sound

[nerfstuntman]

@keilan303

Love the riff at 1:15-1:17 - heard that in maybe '82 or '83 and I was hooked!

[MagnificantS]

awesome song and good video... rhythm is simply perfect

[donna4dean]

Thanks for putting this on - my hubby (an old punk) has been trying to find this for ages (after wearing vinyl out ages ago) So I finally get to hear it!! Influential in the dance vein I might add!!

[Loobs666]

Ladys and Mentalmen...may I present the 1973 version of this track.... War "Me And Baby Brother". I'm still in 2 minds to which is the better Version. They're both top!

[tinmachine27]

You are right on with that! I like war's better. Thanks for bringing that to my attention

[SuperSkidude]

good job with the vid. Don't often watch the picture only ones but you kept me interested.

[kylahullu666]

This song is almost too good to be real :D

[SomeVeryWittyName]

Does nobody else die of happiness at :07 ?

[jeffdeanable]

Not bad.

[shadex2]

not bad? NOT BAD?

*tony the tiger voice* IT"S GrrrrrREAT!

lol

[jeffdeanable]

Where are my manners...? A good song, to be sure. Unique band. The video visuals were pretty good, as well. Keep it up. I liked the use of the various badges. Killing Joke, yeah.

[davandk]

F'ing love this song. KJ KJ is a great album. I remember buying the rec... I mean cd.

[jackiecrowe]

I haven't heard this in years it's AWESOME

[karziflora]

One of the most innovative/influential band in rock/metal music...and this song can resurrect a skeleton!!

[soukous70]

Killing Joke is one of the most underappreciated bands from this era. I catch a lot of s**t about this opinion,but my opinion is that the band INXS basically took their sound and made a more 'happy' commercial version of it,and became superstars. I never respected INXS because of it. Disagree? Compare the two.

[rp61wasinnocentok]

I TOTALLY disagree, that band don't sound anything like Killing Joke,

even with the happy twist on board.

The comparison is laughable...

I also disagree with your comment about KJ not being appreciated.

Maybe around the time of their first few years as a band,

but I think even that may be debatable.

But certainly in the last 10-15 years, they've been sited by many as one of THE major bands to have had influencial qualities.

And quite right too,

they're in a league of their own...

[jmiester25]

@rp61wasinnocentok the only thing that pisses me off is when bands cover Killing Joke and they get more recognition than Killing Joke.

[rp61wasinnocentok]

@jmiester25 No-one can ever account for the injustices that go on in the music business.

It happens right across the board, real artists do all the work and go through hell, while the next latest pretty wannabes are pathetically worshipped by the blinkered moral majority.

[Loobs666]

@jmiester25  how about when Killing Joke totatly ripped of War's track "Me and Baby Brother"....listen to the Bass Line ;-)

[jmiester25]

@Loobs666 what song did they do that with?

[Loobs666]

@jmiester25 As I said, just you tube the band 'War' and the track 'Me and baby Brother'.... top Bass line! Quite similar!

[SonicIntruder77]

@jmiester25

At least Killing Joke get paid when their songs are introduced to a wider audience. By Metallica covering Discharge, Diamond Head, Mercyful Fate & the Joke they’ve earned these bands some money as well.



[toutlemond]

@jmiester25 not from me they dont

[kieron63]

@jmiester25

and nick their riffs eh Kurt?

[jmiester25]

@kieron63 ha yeah. fuck it up like Dead By April did.

[geoffhead111]

@rp61wasinnocentok fairly unkind tirade at a bloke who was just asking for opinions. thats the trouble with the net, people hide behind their keyboards. if you wouldnt say it in person, dont say it online

[rp61wasinnocentok]

@geoffhead111 What tirade are you going on about?

I can't see anything remotely to what you've said. I wish people would actually point out stuff when they mention something like this instead of making people having search for something that isn't there.

Hide behind a keyboard? Not me, i'll say it to your face anytime, just name the place and time.

[geoffhead111]

@rp61wasinnocentok i dunno i cant find the fuck but you were being fairly unkind, or there again, if you werent, take it from me i didna mean it. as for time n place, well i live in katoomba

[VernianProcess]

@soukous70 INXS started in 77. Killing Joke in 78. INXS started as one of the many Australian Punk/New Wave acts, along with artists like The Moodists, The Saints, and The Boys Next Door. It wasn't until they released their second album that their sound changed to a more commercially accessible style. Even then songs like Don't Change, and Just Keep Walking were still very grounded in the artsy side of the scene.

[unclemort1960]

@soukous70 they were certainly a influence on groups like faith no more,using funk /rock and electro rhythms

[tht707]

@soukous70: Hmm… No. INXS have their originality. Listen the very first albums.

Of course, Killing Joke have been a lot more original.

[kraeckelium]

@soukous70

Appreciated by the intelligent public, that's important. Let this be proof that the average person is inpatient and to stupid to understand.

[burolampenkap]

Good song... I hear some !!!

[dogsonholiday]

I rmember hearing this at a party the week it came out. Didn;t understand it but it played all night and scared the bejesus out of me. Still sounds amazing. Such discipline and brutality, those turnaround drums fills are strokes of genius. The riff was possibly nicked from War's 'Me and Baby Brother" ... So many bands have taken this and run with it, but none every scared me morally like KJ.

[Rotulette]

Very good. Which software did you use?

[rp61wasinnocentok]

I don't know if I should be embarrassed to say it but,

I did this with windows movie maker.

[Rotulette]

Don't think you should :P

I'm a newbie in video. Will try it, thanks.

[theModernGypsy]

@rp61wasinnocentok Windows Movie Maker?!?! I'm highly impressed!!! Me, at 43 years old, not only was I listening to Killing Joke back in the 80's, I was "living" the era... in NYC, it was hard to escape it! Bravo for a job well done!

[jmiester25]

@rp61wasinnocentok its the only program that logically works for slideshows. moviemaker is hard as fuck to use for stuff like this.

[rp61wasinnocentok]

@jmiester25 I hear what you're saying mate.

And it is hard, it takes a hell of a lot of cuts to do this kind of shit but i'm just so used to it now. But if I get an idea for something I want to do, having the imagination and knowing how to get around stuff helps a lot.

[louxien]

Assault music!!!

[Arthounot]

Nicely done man!

[KristiiS]

AWESOME!!!!

[erixoff]

Wow ! It sounds so up to date... or simply not outdated.

[cwphunky68]

The great artists, like Killing Joke, are timeless.

[KurtMcGowan]

@cwphunky68 I totally agree. I mean ok that eighties song may be about... the eighties but the subject and the message of the song are still very relevant!

[djgeel]

I have beeen a part of a small rock band from France and we have the great honor to be the guest band for one of them show,

i will never forget.

Long live to Killing Joke !!!

[colinmcclellan]

Exeter 1980 and Elephant Fair 1986 , at their best when Youth was playing for them

[mikaelbjerknes]

i saw them in hellfest, Clisson France. great liveband .:)

[posyanne64]

Just tremendous.... strong sound matching vocals xx

[Trgr66]

I saw KillingJoke ikn Oslo in 86, no band had played louder in oslo before. I was f.... great! Killing Joke still RULE

[PaulaHewson]

interesting music

[iwoulddonothing]

just got bored n browsed 4 "joke" or something, n i ended up here..lol, took me a while to realize that "killing joke" is a band/watever, well t music's not bad

[justifieddamage88]

this video is great !!!

[howard22]

in the 80's there was shitty glam metal and then there was cool shit like killing joke, the clash, the cure, the dead kennedys etc.

[rp61wasinnocentok]

Dude, it was the 70's we had all that glam.

THEN we got all the cool shit.

Sorry to pick you up on that, just keeping things neat & tidy like.

[therealzerostar]

im certain both the dammed and and killing joke debute in the 70s mean while mtoley crue glam rock pioners debuted in the eary 80s sorry

[ChrisV82]

Motley Crue didn't pioneer glam rock. T-Rex and David Bowie (and maybe Alice Cooper) did in the early 70s.

[colibri1]

And Motley Crue's look was lifted from early 70s New York Dolls. That early 70s obsession was why late 70s/early 80s bands like the Crue were considered part of a heavy metal "revival" at the time - they were considered to be reviving looks and sounds from the early 70s.

[sex6cult9revolution]

I didn't mean to give you a thumbs down - I was trying to scroll down and agree with you (Damned began in 76 and Killing Joke in 78/79), but I accidentally click the down thumb. Oops! Sorry!

[keilan303]

Any complete geeks out there who could tell me what sort of reverb they are using on the snare at 0:18? I fucking love that sound, its intense! Can't tell if its a spring or a plate, could be the spring verb in a Roland RE-201? (sounds like they use on of these on the vocals....) Wonder what they were smoking when they thought of putting those sounds to tape, very haunting....great contrast to the funking grooves of this tune...is this the one note riff that they first jammed when they formed??

[noworldorderforme]

I seem to recall an interview with them in a 80's UK music tech magazine and the Roland 'Space Echo' being mentioned. As for what they were smoking, I think Mr. Coleman's mind just works in weird ways without the aid of any chemical stimulants whatsoever. Oh, and here's a question for the KJ obsessives out there. I've got a single by a seventies Irish band called 4 Be 2, where the bassist is credited as one "Martin 'Pig Youth' Glover", any relation?

[IHadAPheo]

4 Be 2 with Jimmy Lydon!!, oh my!!, I have an old 45 single of them doing "Silent Night". I have have not thought of them in 28ish years. Thanks for bringing back memories of my youth at the Continental in Buffalo

IHAP

[ikeano29]

classic tune. ahead of its time

[gerontodon]

Brilliant piece of work like all your other video creations.

I don't understand all of the comment below, but I'm not going to ask.

[rp61wasinnocentok]

lol!

I've seen it already and I don't get it myself.

You get all shapes here XD

Maybe they'll see this and enlighten us.

[beelzabubba]

Great job with the video chopping and making something concievable for us "unbelievers".... The power that created the universe.... Hello......

Keep the sunny side up...

[NausicaSaudran34]

awesome, thanks for posting this track, looove this :)))

[ignominious79]

never fucking heard of them

[TheHell2Come]

now you have

hope you enjoyed

[rp61wasinnocentok]

Either they're being funny or they come from somewhere like Kuwait :)

[TheHell2Come]

well, they always get the last laugh

[HarryUpHarry]

you suck camels

[brightmanonfire]

that's your problem dumass

[ignominious79]

learn to spell, dumbass

[craigguthrie16]

LOL! 10/10 on that comeback

[teamvmg]

learn to spell dumbarse

[HarryUpHarry]

lol - you hate his ignorance

[sirsartana]

I still blast this album.....classic

[Trooperxp]

first industrial metal band, if you ask me

[insidefeever]

throbbing gristle

[Trooperxp]

throbbing gristle is the first industrial band

this, i think, is the first industrial METAL band

[colibri1]

Do you remember what metal meant at the time this song was released? I doubt Killing Joke would have wanted anything to do with that category in the early 80s. Today, the meaning has expanded, but back then it sort of meant hard rock with roots in 70s stadium rock.

[Trooperxp]

i agree

[stich1967]

My god this has taken me back to indie club in Exeter circa 1984 used you go mad 2 this. Fucking graet

[coelacanth23]

killing joke hammersmith clarendon circa 1984; so packed the floors we bowing, people on the top of the entrance canopy; awesome

[stevespillage]

Such fine stuff!! I do love the Spiral Tribe remixes of this fine tune as well. Would any of you nice folks care to post them? Some shitty heroin addict stole mine and sold them to put a "glass dick" in his mouth.

[timross86]

Classic - its been too many years.

[teamvmg]

Can't believe that this track is 30 years old

It still scares little children today - if you play it at them loud enough!

[wilkesart]

fab brings back so many memmories

[beelzabubba]

Great audio.... the best i've heard

[dudeshutup2007]

i have their shirt

[xXxRav3rRawrBabyxXx]

really awesome!! :]

[CupidStunt0001]

This version on the new Killing Joke, peel sessions cd, is out of this world. Full blast in the car..drowning out all the rapshite music fans in theirs.

He he.. Brilliant!

Saw em at Forum on the 04/10/08,they still are the most powerful live band on the planet

[elgrano]

hell yea, great version, blasting that AND the live at the forum limited edition cd in my truck.

[tbonefinger]

Nice job on the video, rp61

[stevebeagle]

ahh, to be 19 again & living back in NYC ! in 1980

[RubyTwilite]

Amen to that Stevebeagle!

[tallpaddy]

I love this track-1980 but it's so up to date- it's full of the happy energy of youth- I hope the play it live on saturday night 4th Oct in London- Pandemonium and singles- I think it was a single but then again they had many singles- it could be a long night- hopefully...

[dseanc]

What a fuckin night, played all the greats, this one included,

[tallpaddy]

Yeah what a fucking night is right!

The best Killing Joke concert I've ever seen...I was at the front left of stage- the band were on top form and the audience lapped it up- great night...

[BeBopALula77]

En mi opinion una de las mejores canciones de killing joke

[japanesexxx]

huge sound

[Garrison2]

This album should be immortalized.

[felixcock]

i went into glasgow for past papers for my 'o' grades and came back with killing jokes first album instead,what an inspiration to my life.

[jangenk]

still absolutely amazing today

[libertyale]

My first song I ever heard from KJ on WHFS Dc area 1984. Went out and bought their first album that very day. This and Requiem changed my world. - Andy Zook

[giantplanet]

I bought this on 12 inch and Unknown Pleasures on the same day back in 1980 and they both sound as good today :)

[rp61wasinnocentok]

Nice one mate!

That very performance was uploaded on Dimedozen not long back. It was uploaded as

Trafalgar Sq CND Rally 26.10.80

Saw them 3 times myself between '80-'83

Awesome times indeed.

[wreaksrevenge]

Yeah, I was there too in Trafalgar Square with my mate, we were 14 year old scruffy little punks. Like you say, I've never forgotten it. best KJ song for me this one, and sounds as good now. Looking forward to seeing them later this year in London

[front131]

I was there too! (1980). One of the best ever.

[CaptainFootos]

The real shit! Can't wait to see the joke in Berlin in September. Hopefully they'll play that tune too, on the 1st evening - regards to all gatherers!!!

[GuerraLumbriga]

one of the best songs in the whole world

[pfonyt]

And we all need more songs like this, and to CHANGE this fu**in' world!

You see... You feel... You know... React... You're waiting (2x)...

CHANGE!

[fastbikeguy]

me and my missus used to dance our selves fuckin stupid to this when we were kids....what a great track...brings back memories

[mattejames1]

RIP RAVEN

[markrskinner]

Fantastic memories!

[pete396johnson]

first song i ever heard from this band saw them with the bush tetras at peppermint lounge years ago they kick ass

[COwens]

Great work here.