Such enthusiasm! I feel the complete same way... Sagan, deGrasse Tyson, Dawkins... Forget religion, why limit yourself into believing that the phenomenal surroundings were created by some man 2000 years ago... To quote Neil deGrasse Tyson "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos, that makes me want to grab people in the street and say 'Have you heard this?!'" So inspiring and thrilling to know that I am made of 'Star Stuff' from millions of years ago! More
You and and Theists and Atheists are so stupid you think you are smart I got a better belief for you don't follow belief or disbelief follow Apathetic agnosticism
@saiyanmage Are you stupid I only posted my comments on 3 of her videos go fuck a tree atheist and than you will see how powerful being a Apathetic agnostic is
@saiyanmage I've seen you are a imbecile and you should stop trying to force me to be atheist, unless I see proof that disbelief or belief is true than I will never believe either.I am and always will be unless I see proof a Apathetic agnosticism
Almost every atom in my body is was manufactured in a star?? Sorry, but I'll have to correct you. First, none of the atoms were manufactured in stars; but most of the elements were created in stars, by combining these atoms created just after the Big Bang. Also, about 60-65% of the elements in our bodies are hydrogen, which all date back to the Big Bang. Pretty much all of the rest were manufactured in the hearts of stars though! sorry to correct you on that. Great video though
@caffingdu Sure, I should have stated that differently. Around 90-93% of our mass is from elements other than hydrogen, so that`s a good enough majority for me.
@CompletelyLovely yup, me too. by the way, i also made an error in my last comment, which someone corrected me on. I said that no atom has ever been manufactured in a star, which is TOTALLY wrong, and that error is MUCH more inexcusable than the error I pointed out in your video. don't know what i was thinking. so i'm a bit embarrassed, as a physics major. In trying to correct your small error i made an big error haha
@caffingdu wrote: "none of the atoms were manufactured in stars; but most of the elements were created in stars".
Actually, the term "elements" refers to different kinds of atoms. A periodic table lists the different kinds of elements, and describes the different structures these different atoms have.
"First, none of the atoms were manufactured in stars; but most of the elements were created in stars, by combining these atoms created just after the Big Bang"
you lost me there; no atoms were made in stars... yet, most elements were made in stars. I'm pretty sure the elements created in stars were created in atomic form. I.e. atoms were created in stars.
Perhaps I'm just reading that wrong? it sounds like you're contradicting yourself.
We are made of dirt, which comes from stars and is ubiquitous. Life is still a grind for some of the best of us don't fucking kid yourself or until life shoots you down, you'll piss off and grieve scores of people who don't share the ease with which you pass through existence.
Carl Sagan's great and all but seriously, life is never not going to keep being shitty and yet preferable to outright death for some people. your pie-in-the-sky flippancy about it merely mocks their suffering. plzxcuse
@nerdyharry 1. The stars/dirt thing is about how religion thinks on such a small space/time scale. Obviously dirt is made of stars. 2. My life is FAR harder than yours. I am sure of that. I just know how to enjoy the good bits and not wallow in self pity. If the world sucks any more than it needs to, it's because of attitudes like yours that seek out to bring down anyone who appears happy. Luckily your negative bullshit is impotent around these parts, and I'm going to have a glorious day.
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@CompletelyLovely 1. This does not change the fact that religion guessed right about us being a form of dirt, nothing material about us is of any value beyond our ability to enjoy it or use it to serve others.
2. I don't know you, and so I never claimed my life was harder than yours. know what I'm sure of though? Its not as empty. I don't care if you are an orphaned war amp rape victim, you're like a nauseatingly-in-love yuppy couple touring a holocaust, in one woman. And *that* brings ME down.
@nerdyharry Haha, it's super funny that you think my life is empty. As if joyful people can't be deep! That's good stuff. My joy actually comes from the fact that my life is so rich and fulfilling.
@CompletelyLovely Ah. I misworded myself. I meant your life isn't as empty as some people's lives are forced to be. I recall typing "just look at you" after that sentence before thinking of something better and running out of characters. Didn't edit tho [my life isn't THAT empty].
In conclusion: your joy, is cloying. And no thank you, I won't enjoy it down there, next time I visit either there or your videos. Harumph.
@CompletelyLovely I love your videos so much I watch them whenever I go to Youtube. Seriously, you're what's convinced me to keep going, the idea that there's actually entertaining, nice and intelligent people out there in the world. I've had to deal with a lot of discrimination from idiots, Creationists and various other people for my interests in the same subjects, but the fact that there's someone like you putting awesome stuff on YT is one thing that makes me feel happy. Thanks for that :D
@nerdyharry I think you should just go and kill yourself mate. I know that I'd commit suicide if I were as despondent and miserable with the world as you are.
@CompletelyLovely Great commentary about where we come from! And Carl Sagan will always be greatly missed, especially on Carl Sagan Day! Love all your videos and your warm and positive attitude to, well, everything! 380 positive people out of 386 just goes to show that negative vibe merchants like @nerdyharry are well in the minority!
@ScientificThinker only because you're killing us off with your happy-go-luckiness. . . and if you couldn't face a all-consuming crisis without killing yourself, maybe you're not what should be the majority, as I may well walk out of it with some rare and hard-won wisdom about the building of a theory of other minds. how the fuck do i troll if i'm dead? you now appear less capable of empathy than a suicidal person. remember not to take all that privilege for granted, captain.
@nerdyharry Hey, I'd never kill myself mate. Life and the Universe are far too awesome and full of wonder to ever even contemplate that. I was merely suggesting suicide as an option for yourself.
You should know you can't reason with christians , they're unreasonable. I do find it amusing that they claim to be "joint heirs with christ" . (the crucifixions should begin immediately ! )
Awesome line: "I don't believe that a man died 2,000 years ago so that I could live forever. I don't believe I'm that special. I believe that the evidence shows that stars died billions of years ago so that I could live for one brief beautiful moment on a pale blue dot."
In some respectsm science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any religion has looked at science and concluded, 'This is better than we thought'! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed'? Instead they say 'No, no, no! My God is a little god, and I want him to stay that way".
Hate these short, limiting posts, but they're better than nothing! I was also going to say that it is as difficult to prove the non-existence of a god or gods as it is to prove the existence. I'm sure that you have seen lovely Miss CompletelyLovely's video where she says that it's a waste of time praying for her. Well...I have the same sentiment regarding trying to prove or disprove religious or non-religious beliefs: Why waste the time? Life would improve ie we simply all got along.
@EdKesokram probably because religion affects the lives of most people, religious or not, on this planet, often in negative ways. Don't buy into the fake 'it's a private belief' nonsense - nothing could be further from the truth (and being far from truths is religion's trademark)
@dubbleplusgood Actually, my religious beliefs are entirely self-made, so I don't feel compelled one way or another to accept or reject anything just because someone tells me to do so. At one time I was married into a VERY powerful Mormon family, and to this day think they are wonderful people though we are night and day regarding belief differences. I have seen way too many things in my life to think nothing exists after death, but don't believe any "God" has anything to do with our survival.
@dubbleplusgood Actually, my religious beliefs are entirely self-made, so I don't feel compelled one way or another to accept or reject anything just because someone tells me to do so. At one time I was married into a VERY powerful Mormon family, and to this day think they are wonderful people though we are night and day regarding belief differences. I have seen way too many things in my life to think nothing exists after death, but don't believe any "God" has anything to do with our survival.
@dubbleplusgood Actually, my religious beliefs are entirely self-made, so I don't feel compelled one way or another to accept or reject anything just because someone tells me to do so. At one time I was married into a VERY powerful Mormon family, and to this day think they are wonderful people though we are night and day regarding belief differences. I have seen way too many things in my life to think nothing exists after death, but don't believe any "God" has anything to do with our survival.
@Nuron666 Why should atheists - or anyone else - feel compelled to prove the existence of anything to someone else whether it be gods, unicorns,The Man in the Moon, etc? I don't need to "prove" what I believe is true to gain credibility with you any more than you need to prove your beliefs to me. I don't care if you or anyone else believes in a purple cow orbiting the earth and sending blissful signals to those who are righteous as long as they don't harm me or others. Live and let live!
I love this. I made a toast to Carl Sagan at my wedding reception, just a month ago now. I tried to make the same point you make here, but I like the way you put it better. Cheers, and happy Carl Sagan Day to you! (And to all of you!)
Happy Carl Sagan Day! Happy Neil Degrasse Tyson Day! Happy Richard Dawkins Day! Happy Christopher Hitchens Day! Happy Sam Harris Day! Happy AronRa Day! Happy Zomgitzcriss Day! Happy QualiaSoup Day! And last but never least, Happy CompletelyLovely Day! (that last one is a holiday I can get behind)
Hydrogen MAKES helium through heat and pressure and the splitting and re-fusing of atoms together when compressed together through vast pressures of its own weight. Then the star takes the helium and fuses it together to make carbon then after that, the carbon is pressed together to make other elements up to iron. After iron is made it takes too much energy to further make anything past iron, so then supernovas make all the rest of the elements. The gases still rule the universe, though.
The unimaginable density in 'unity' and even in the moment after the big bang would have produced a level of gravity much stronger than any black hole that expansion would have be impossible. Even if it didn't, don't fiercely commit yourself to a belief that requires just as much faith as the Abrahamic religions. Also consider the uniqueness of the cosmological constants, and if they had differed by only a fraction of a fraction then we wouldn't be here. Also consider the complexity of DNA...
Total human biomass : ~Half a trillion metric tons. This is only 1 billionth of a billionth of a Sun-like star. We are unique and lucky kind of matter. Statistically, all of us have inside us a molecule that once lied within Cleopatra, Napoleon or Carl Sagan.
CL, you're in danger of having few of us guys actually listen to your compelling messages because most of us are only admiring you, and yes - most likely letting a few unholy thoughts enter our minds, as well! Keep these videos up and you can bet that eventually you're going to be an internet star-who is made of stardust! Your contents of stardust, helium, hydrogen and all the rest came together to make a wonderful, thoughtful person, so KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
I love the enthusiasm! I wish at least half of the people I met were as enthusiastic as you were! I don't know how anyone can stand in the face of the beautiful truth around us and not feel humbled by this big beautiful Universe!
When my daughter was 5 or 6, we had her outside hunting for Easter Eggs. She kept finding eggs and bringing them to me and say the most random stuff. We got to egg 11 and she looked me square in the eyes and said "We are made of star dust." She was vehemently adamantly. Then she ran out and found egg12 and came back with "chocolate is good for the soul." We sat on the porch and ate Reese's Cups. Everything was right int the world at that moment in time.
You wrote of the significance of our origins, our past. I have written of the potential of our future, your words reminded me of that writing and a passage from Carl Sagan's book "Cosmos". In a poetic sense as Carl Sagan puts it, "we are a way for the universe to know itself".
Atheists have not given a straight answer. They need to say there is no such thing as a GOD and then prove it.
You have to prove beyond any doubt that God doesnt exist only then the religious types will change their ways.
Also you must learn to stick to the subject which is GOD. We are not talking about fictional characters like Unicorns, Father Christmas, Dragons etc...
@Nuron666 No. You are completely wrong. There is no difference, AT ALL, between gods and unicorns. None. They both have no evidence to support them. They both do not explain any natural phenomena. They are both entirely imaginary.
There is no way (and no reason) to prove the non-existence of something. However, without any evidence that something does exist, there is no reason to accept that it does exist.
Also? "prove beyond any doubt" is a meaningless statement in science.
@MisterDataJack we can prove beyond any doubt that Unicorns do not exist. The majority of people in the world will be willing to accept that there is no such thing as a UNICORN.
But when it comes to GOD the creator. This character is much harder to prove, mainly because every civilisation since the beginning of time have been bought up belieing in this GOD character. They have all been told God is invisible and cant be seen etc...
@Nuron666 You are simply oozing logical fallacies, here. You cannot, ever, "prove beyond any doubt" that something doesn't exist. If you think you can, you don't know how to think. Seriously, logic works, and there are rules.
What the "majority of people" believe or accept has no bearing on truth. None at all.
There are many, many things that can be supported by evidence but cannot be "seen".
Gods are imaginary. Zeus, Ra, Odin, Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah, etc. All were made up to explain nature.
@MisterDataJack By "gods are imaginary" I suppose you mean, to the best of our knowledge, correct? But I just want to point out not all Gods can be brushed off as imaginary. If by imaginary you mean, confined only to one's imagination and having no basis in reality...that seems an unfounded leap in logic to me. The concept of whether the universe had a creator or not is a philosophical concept that has been argued back and forth, its an uncertainty. Just ask Stephen Hawking :D. Anyways good day
@radscorpion8 All gods are equally supported by evidence - that is to say, not at all. They are all equally imaginary.
"Creator god" may be a philosophical concept, but it is also a nonsensical one. Why must the creator of the universe be a god? Or even sentient? Adding unsupported attributes to an event is sloppy thinking, It violates Occam's Razor.
What Hawking thinks about this is not important (but, incidentally, he does not believe in a creator god). What matters is evidence.
@Nuron666 Again, you only think this, because you do not know how to think properly. One cannot ever disprove the existence of anything beyond a doubt. That is not possible.There is no fence siting - only understanding how logic and reality work.
I do not believe _anything_. I accept as true that which is supported by evidence. Leprechauns, gods, unicorns, fairies - there is no evidence for any of them. Therefore, They are all as likely as each other. Why accept any of them?
@MisterDataJack once again I told you that unicorns, Fairies, Leprichauns etc.. can be proved to be false, because we can trace their origins back to the time in history.
You cannot compare "GOD" with any of these other work of fiction.
All the other work of fiction that you have mentioned can be proved to be man made.
@Nuron666 Yes, you keep telling me that, and you keep being wrong. There is no difference between fairies, roman deities, and Jewish/christian deities. None. All of them were made up to explain natural phenomena, and all of them failed to do so
You cannot disprove the existence of anything, sorry. You simply can't. That is not how logic works. If there is no evidence at all for the existence of something, that is a compelling reason to not accept it exists, but it is not "proof" that it doesn't
@Nuron666 Personal gods (Ra, Odin, Yahweh, Allah, etc.) are identical to Fairies - Made up.
Creator gods are entirely unnecessary, as they don't add anything to our understanding. We know how the diversity of life came to be on Earth. We know how the Earth &rest of the solar system formed. We know how the Universe has changed over time.
We don't know what started the Universe, nor do we know exactly what started life. But to posit an angry guy who likes the smell of burnt flesh did it is wrong
@Nuron666 That is how science works. These are theories (as opposed to hypotheses) because they are supported by all of the evidence, make accurate predictions, and have no unnecessary attributes (i.e., are parsimonious).
Having an "element of doubt" is simply part of understanding. Doubt-free certainty is for children and religious fanatics.
@Nuron666 There is no such thing as evidence against the existence of gods - or fairies, or ghosts, etc. There is a definite _lack_ of evidence for them, but that is not the same thing.
Unfortunately, even some atheists are steeped in magical thinking. Bill Maher with his idiot alt med nonsense; libertarians with their, well, complete inability to understand rational arguments; etc.
I think sloppy thinking will be with us for a while, because it is far easier than critical thinking.
@Nuron666 The people don't change (much), but society does. No more routine human or animal sacrifice, for example. Or witch burnings. Also, regulated meds and food help protect against some woo dangers. Not perfect, but getting better.
@MisterDataJack yes the old rituals have gone. Christianity has improved, but you still have the Islamics who are multipyling, colonising countries, Many billions of Muslims are migrating to European countries and they are producing millions of kids and indoctrinating them.
The trouble with Atheists is, they are not producing enough kids, so many western countries are bringing in foreign cultures, religions like Islam which opposes the Athiest way of thinking. Placing a holt in Atheism progress
@Nuron666 Actually, christianity didn't improve, per se. It was defanged by the secular liberal democracies that emerged from the Enlightenment. Islam has yet to experience that.
In my opinion, children grow up to be secularists because they are properly educated, and not neccessarily because they have secular parents. Many of those European Muslims may have atheist (or, at least, moderate Muslim) children. Or one would hope.
@MisterDataJack but is secularism really taking over through education. From what I have seen, religion is becoming more and more popular. Not just the old Muslim, Christian lot. We now have new age spiritual type of religions, scientology, buddhism etc...
Down in London where I live there are more Mosques then Christian Churches. All built within a 50 year period since the opening of the borders to 3rd world migrants.
@Nuron666 Agreed, there are a lot of new mosques in London. And that is a problem - because Islam is more out of control than christianity is today. And you are also right about the new age woo crowd (fortunately, though, they don't advocate curtailing the rights of other like the damn christians and Muslims do).
But I still think the evidence points to more of Europe becoming secular _despite_ the influx of immigrants with their religious nonsense. Education breeds secularism. Fact :)
@MisterDataJack history shows us, throughout the last 1400 years, Muslims have been colonising country after country right across Africa, Asia, Europe by using a simple tactic. They move in and they out breed the natives and eventually they become the majority. They then become influencial with the way the government is run.
This is already happening in the UK, Sweden, France, Holland, Norway etc..
I just think the secularists have underestimated this desert religion.
Muslims created secularism and atheism, to control the disgruntled uneducated masses more easily.
This is how ISlam controls the atheists. They give you dogma, you eat it, then you become a slave of Islam, while thinking you're some sort of "freedom person".
Nope. Allah is still your lord, dear fanatic. And only Muslims benefit from Atheism and Secularism.
Muslims feared one thing. Christian Crusaders of pure heart and True Faith.
@Nuron666 You forgot, licking their purple lips and dirty moustaches.
Inquisitions and Crusaders scared Islam more than it scared the rest. Or so history here in Europe goes about it.
Personally I approve of the Arian Christian Inquisitions and Crusaders, less than the Catholic ones, which are more pro-muslim, and pro-secular, than the other White christian religions of Europe.
The turkish tribes created WEsternology and Secularism to infiltrate the other worlds easily.
So peacefully, since they already lost by war. Their tactics seem to work. They only need a few people to be traitors, and they are the corrupt law creators or law voters, who are probably more related to ISlamic people than to europeans or whites.
What you find is, when people become wealthy and edcuated, they start adopting a liberal way of thinking
Specially children of wealthy parents. If you go and look at the universities, its the students who come from wealthy families who are more likely to embrace socialism and atheism.
And these students then move into politics and become rulers of governments and some take over positions in the media. These are not some invisible foreigner
\You're confusing society with corruption. These people aren't capable or educated, they use the lies of university to steal a role that was made for them.
Politics is a family corruption game. \Outsiders have no part in it. Party corruption is itself a socialist movement, and it's created by non-white minorities alone.
White people don't bother with politics it's obsolete to us, and useless.
@Soveraine you need to investigate when all these events like immigration, racial equality, sexual revolution, etc.. began to take over.
It was the 1960's. The flower power generations, hippies, Rock bands, Actors, Media presenters, civil rights protestors etc. Nearly all of them were white middle class Europeans. The young generation at that time with their university education changed the face of Europe.
@Nuron666 Racial equality created by the idiot yankees when you stopped pretending like you don't love niggers.
You released those niggers from the zoos and cotton fields, and for what? To use them as cannon fodder against Europe.
WW2 happened because a bunch of non-whites, who were subhuman by Nazi standards, realised you aren't white. And all of you will be thrown out of Europe, and seen as the savages and lowlifes you are.
So you used 1945 to infiltrate agents from outside Europe, and use
@Nuron666 As an excuse to great worthless propaganda like fagtors, cock bands, chippies, racial equality nonsense.
It was your fear that created this. Your lowlife agents of propaganda, who infiltrated Europe, after the 1945, and is the true source of this corruption.
The cancer is non-whites, minorities like bolivians, egyptians, jennifers and other non-white ethnics, who are racist against Whites.
You created this. You made this happen, yourselves. Europe is both the Target and the Excuse.
@Nuron666 Underestimating the racism, xenophobia, intolerance and white supremacism of white europeans, is truly foolish of you.
Europeans don't just "change". Whites are unable to change since before Christian ages. There's no way they'd all suddenly allow mortals and other subhuman nonwhites to "immigrate".
All the countries of Europe, who are filled with non-white immigrants, are unhappy with them. If Hitler had won the world war, Europe would be White and Free again.
@Nuron666 SExual revolution? What does that mean? This concept is unknown to me.
Is it like bestiality or animal brothels? The type that are a success in atheist countries, like Denmark or something like that?
I heard about that from american christians. I used to think they were joking, and making fun of the atheist sheeple, but then I saw their links, and saw it's true.
The Jewish religion of Atheism, is very weird, to say the least. And Europe is their main target, they fear White Europe.
@Nuron666 What "society" in Europe created them? I have never heard of any society here to create them.
Unless you mean the Jacobin (jewish) attempt to create the Polish republic, which failed, but created a revolution in France?
Again, these are all Western corruptions, originated by non-europeans. Like Napoleon or his turks, the turkish Mammelucks from Egypt, the jewish Jacobins and their Frankist allies from Russia.
Only the small factions benefited from Secularism, because they stole tax.
@Nuron666 Europeans never allowed immigration or believed in multiculturalism.
It was only the Westernised, Secular, Colonial Impires, like Spain, France, Britain, that used such Dogma to incorporate slaves as labourers and mercenaries from the non-white minorities in their distant colonies, beyond the seas.
So "empires" led by Jews, including Charles the Fifth, the Jewish king of Spain, and Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, allowed influx of non-whites into Europe.
@Nuron666 As for the Reczpospolita of the Polish Lithuanian Common wealth, you have the Mongols to blame for that.
The golden Horde's yurta and Codes of Dogmatic Atheism, were kept from the Asians who invaded Europe, by the Polish turks.
The Polish sarmatians immediately used the Atheist laws of their Turkish family from Mongolia and Asia, to create the Secularist nonsense that apparently shaped even Achmedistan.
So you have the Turks to thank for that. And they're all Asians. Thank them now.
@Nuron666 Or blame, if that's what you were after.
Atheism was never a european faith. It was infiltrated as Ideology and Dogma, by jewish and other non-white "revolutionaries".
They belonged to the Illuminist cult. They weren't white, or even native europeans. They were semites, turanoids and other subhumans, from the Colonies of France, Britain or Spain.
It was those colonists from outside Europe, that created all the corruption of Illuminism, Atheism and Secularism.
Such enthusiasm! I feel the complete same way... Sagan, deGrasse Tyson, Dawkins... Forget religion, why limit yourself into believing that the phenomenal surroundings were created by some man 2000 years ago... To quote Neil deGrasse Tyson "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos, that makes me want to grab people in the street and say 'Have you heard this?!'" So inspiring and thrilling to know that I am made of 'Star Stuff' from millions of years ago! More
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Did you ever think of pursuing a career in the sciences? We need all the help we can get in the endeavors of discovery and practicality.
Plasmon19 3 weeks ago
Outstanding vid. Well done!
sailcat9 4 weeks ago
Get a new computer already @_@
saiyanmage 1 month ago
You and and Theists and Atheists are so stupid you think you are smart I got a better belief for you don't follow belief or disbelief follow Apathetic agnosticism
icey778 1 month ago
@icey778 Get laid please. I've seen your comments on her channel page and every freaking video there is. Sheesh!
saiyanmage 1 month ago
@saiyanmage Are you stupid I only posted my comments on 3 of her videos go fuck a tree atheist and than you will see how powerful being a Apathetic agnostic is
icey778 1 month ago
@icey778
Yes, you can bark loud. We've all seen it. Now run along ^^
saiyanmage 1 month ago
@saiyanmage I've seen you are a imbecile and you should stop trying to force me to be atheist, unless I see proof that disbelief or belief is true than I will never believe either.I am and always will be unless I see proof a Apathetic agnosticism
icey778 1 month ago
@icey778
When did I ever say I was forcing you to do anything? I'm just saying you sound really annoying.
saiyanmage 1 month ago
@icey778 What is a tree atheist?
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icey778 1 month ago
Hey, you.
Love your vids and the way you express yourself. [And yes, I love Sagan too.]
Make something new soon, K?
theblue92 1 month ago
I love your passion for science.
RedSkyNord 1 month ago
Is there an audio problem or do I have to fiddle with my speakers?
xUberfail 1 month ago
@xUberfail Audio problem. Sorry!
CompletelyLovely 1 month ago
@CompletelyLovely her geek is so strong its distorts the recording process ; )
pandorachild 1 month ago
"I believe what the evidence shows - that stars died billions of years ago so that I could live for one brief beautiful moment on a pale blue dot."
That bit got me - the mix of fact with the emotional overlay of Sagan's view of Earth. Nice one girl, nice one :)
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Wonderful post! Love your passion.
13aBOC 2 months ago
Twas a great, concise and refreshing speech. Thanks you CL.
Knr911 2 months ago
To be fair science also says that dirt is made of stars :P
ZaeroZ 2 months ago
You should remove the religious trolling here. : )
winterstellar 2 months ago
I WANT TO HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH YOUR BODY
AveragePope 2 months ago
Almost every atom in my body is was manufactured in a star?? Sorry, but I'll have to correct you. First, none of the atoms were manufactured in stars; but most of the elements were created in stars, by combining these atoms created just after the Big Bang. Also, about 60-65% of the elements in our bodies are hydrogen, which all date back to the Big Bang. Pretty much all of the rest were manufactured in the hearts of stars though! sorry to correct you on that. Great video though
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@caffingdu Sure, I should have stated that differently. Around 90-93% of our mass is from elements other than hydrogen, so that`s a good enough majority for me.
CompletelyLovely 2 months ago
@CompletelyLovely yup, me too. by the way, i also made an error in my last comment, which someone corrected me on. I said that no atom has ever been manufactured in a star, which is TOTALLY wrong, and that error is MUCH more inexcusable than the error I pointed out in your video. don't know what i was thinking. so i'm a bit embarrassed, as a physics major. In trying to correct your small error i made an big error haha
caffingdu 2 months ago
@caffingdu wrote: "none of the atoms were manufactured in stars; but most of the elements were created in stars".
Actually, the term "elements" refers to different kinds of atoms. A periodic table lists the different kinds of elements, and describes the different structures these different atoms have.
markdzima 2 months ago
@markdzima sorry, you're right. I don't know what I was thinking. must of been thinking of protons or something and had a brain fart.
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@caffingdu
"First, none of the atoms were manufactured in stars; but most of the elements were created in stars, by combining these atoms created just after the Big Bang"
you lost me there; no atoms were made in stars... yet, most elements were made in stars. I'm pretty sure the elements created in stars were created in atomic form. I.e. atoms were created in stars.
Perhaps I'm just reading that wrong? it sounds like you're contradicting yourself.
TheRealityofNature 1 month ago
You're gourgeous and intelligent.
Cheers from Brazil
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forcadopensamento 2 months ago
Carl would be proud.
LyceumRecordz 2 months ago
Though I'm not an atheist, I wish there were more people like you. Nice glasses.
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Carl Sagan wasn't an atheist, he was an agnostic.
lost4468yt 2 months ago
Beautiful thoughts, beautifully expressed.
I heart Carl Sagen too.
mananachronism 2 months ago
...oh you !
docatomics 3 months ago
Jesus didn't die for you, the Singularity and His Sons the Stars died for you.
Finiras 3 months ago
That clip from Pale Blue Dot never fails to bring tears to my eyes. :-)
Cihl280777 3 months ago
We are made of dirt, which comes from stars and is ubiquitous. Life is still a grind for some of the best of us don't fucking kid yourself or until life shoots you down, you'll piss off and grieve scores of people who don't share the ease with which you pass through existence.
Carl Sagan's great and all but seriously, life is never not going to keep being shitty and yet preferable to outright death for some people. your pie-in-the-sky flippancy about it merely mocks their suffering. plzxcuse
nerdyharry 3 months ago
@nerdyharry 1. The stars/dirt thing is about how religion thinks on such a small space/time scale. Obviously dirt is made of stars. 2. My life is FAR harder than yours. I am sure of that. I just know how to enjoy the good bits and not wallow in self pity. If the world sucks any more than it needs to, it's because of attitudes like yours that seek out to bring down anyone who appears happy. Luckily your negative bullshit is impotent around these parts, and I'm going to have a glorious day.
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@CompletelyLovely 1. This does not change the fact that religion guessed right about us being a form of dirt, nothing material about us is of any value beyond our ability to enjoy it or use it to serve others.
2. I don't know you, and so I never claimed my life was harder than yours. know what I'm sure of though? Its not as empty. I don't care if you are an orphaned war amp rape victim, you're like a nauseatingly-in-love yuppy couple touring a holocaust, in one woman. And *that* brings ME down.
nerdyharry 3 months ago
@nerdyharry Haha, it's super funny that you think my life is empty. As if joyful people can't be deep! That's good stuff. My joy actually comes from the fact that my life is so rich and fulfilling.
CompletelyLovely 3 months ago 5
@CompletelyLovely Ah. I misworded myself. I meant your life isn't as empty as some people's lives are forced to be. I recall typing "just look at you" after that sentence before thinking of something better and running out of characters. Didn't edit tho [my life isn't THAT empty].
In conclusion: your joy, is cloying. And no thank you, I won't enjoy it down there, next time I visit either there or your videos. Harumph.
nerdyharry 3 months ago
@nerdyharry You're a dick.
AlphaBetaParkingLot 3 months ago
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@nerdyharry
Dude... Get a fucking life! Lol.
saiyanmage 3 months ago
@CompletelyLovely I love your videos so much I watch them whenever I go to Youtube. Seriously, you're what's convinced me to keep going, the idea that there's actually entertaining, nice and intelligent people out there in the world. I've had to deal with a lot of discrimination from idiots, Creationists and various other people for my interests in the same subjects, but the fact that there's someone like you putting awesome stuff on YT is one thing that makes me feel happy. Thanks for that :D
MajickDemoniack 1 month ago
@nerdyharry I think you should just go and kill yourself mate. I know that I'd commit suicide if I were as despondent and miserable with the world as you are.
@CompletelyLovely Great commentary about where we come from! And Carl Sagan will always be greatly missed, especially on Carl Sagan Day! Love all your videos and your warm and positive attitude to, well, everything! 380 positive people out of 386 just goes to show that negative vibe merchants like @nerdyharry are well in the minority!
ScientificThinker 2 months ago
@ScientificThinker only because you're killing us off with your happy-go-luckiness. . . and if you couldn't face a all-consuming crisis without killing yourself, maybe you're not what should be the majority, as I may well walk out of it with some rare and hard-won wisdom about the building of a theory of other minds. how the fuck do i troll if i'm dead? you now appear less capable of empathy than a suicidal person. remember not to take all that privilege for granted, captain.
nerdyharry 2 months ago
@nerdyharry Hey, I'd never kill myself mate. Life and the Universe are far too awesome and full of wonder to ever even contemplate that. I was merely suggesting suicide as an option for yourself.
ScientificThinker 2 months ago
@ScientificThinker Oh you'll have to excuse me I didn't know you had asperger syndrome. mmmmmate.
nerdyharry 2 months ago
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nerdyharry 3 months ago
Wait. Does this mean that turds are also made from stars, and are all beautiful and lovely?
Nylonbeast 3 months ago
We are stardust , we are golden , we are caught in the devils' bargain , and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden.
Crosby, Stills , Nash and Young
TheIAMINU 3 months ago
i like this vid.
fukkensully 3 months ago
Will you marry me?
TheBinary123 3 months ago
So do you not understand that dirt comes from stars as well?
AtheistWomyn 3 months ago
You should know you can't reason with christians , they're unreasonable. I do find it amusing that they claim to be "joint heirs with christ" . (the crucifixions should begin immediately ! )
TheIAMINU 3 months ago
Great cooments from a lovely atheist woman with a keen intellect.
scoopmaster23 3 months ago
without headphones, i can't even understand the audio
:(
Wittgensteinism 3 months ago
What do you think of the occupy calgary thing?
TheInfernalSpark 4 months ago
Awesome line: "I don't believe that a man died 2,000 years ago so that I could live forever. I don't believe I'm that special. I believe that the evidence shows that stars died billions of years ago so that I could live for one brief beautiful moment on a pale blue dot."
GodVlogger 4 months ago
That was beautiful :)
awesomeguyrocks1 4 months ago
I like to remind my bio students;
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."- Aldous Huxley
saxmanchiro 4 months ago
In some respectsm science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any religion has looked at science and concluded, 'This is better than we thought'! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed'? Instead they say 'No, no, no! My God is a little god, and I want him to stay that way".
Carl Sagan
-Pale Blue Dot
(One of my many favorites).
Eldrave20 4 months ago
nicely done :)
ndjarnag 4 months ago
Ah, but you forget, dirt is made of stars too.
Astillion 4 months ago
You're hot
blithe111 4 months ago
You're completely lovely :)
JackeShanTwo 4 months ago
I think you are amazing.
koochkooch 4 months ago
Hate these short, limiting posts, but they're better than nothing! I was also going to say that it is as difficult to prove the non-existence of a god or gods as it is to prove the existence. I'm sure that you have seen lovely Miss CompletelyLovely's video where she says that it's a waste of time praying for her. Well...I have the same sentiment regarding trying to prove or disprove religious or non-religious beliefs: Why waste the time? Life would improve ie we simply all got along.
EdKesokram 4 months ago
@EdKesokram probably because religion affects the lives of most people, religious or not, on this planet, often in negative ways. Don't buy into the fake 'it's a private belief' nonsense - nothing could be further from the truth (and being far from truths is religion's trademark)
dubbleplusgood 4 months ago
@dubbleplusgood Actually, my religious beliefs are entirely self-made, so I don't feel compelled one way or another to accept or reject anything just because someone tells me to do so. At one time I was married into a VERY powerful Mormon family, and to this day think they are wonderful people though we are night and day regarding belief differences. I have seen way too many things in my life to think nothing exists after death, but don't believe any "God" has anything to do with our survival.
EdKesokram 4 months ago
@dubbleplusgood Actually, my religious beliefs are entirely self-made, so I don't feel compelled one way or another to accept or reject anything just because someone tells me to do so. At one time I was married into a VERY powerful Mormon family, and to this day think they are wonderful people though we are night and day regarding belief differences. I have seen way too many things in my life to think nothing exists after death, but don't believe any "God" has anything to do with our survival.
EdKesokram 4 months ago
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@dubbleplusgood Actually, my religious beliefs are entirely self-made, so I don't feel compelled one way or another to accept or reject anything just because someone tells me to do so. At one time I was married into a VERY powerful Mormon family, and to this day think they are wonderful people though we are night and day regarding belief differences. I have seen way too many things in my life to think nothing exists after death, but don't believe any "God" has anything to do with our survival.
EdKesokram 4 months ago
@Nuron666 Why should atheists - or anyone else - feel compelled to prove the existence of anything to someone else whether it be gods, unicorns,The Man in the Moon, etc? I don't need to "prove" what I believe is true to gain credibility with you any more than you need to prove your beliefs to me. I don't care if you or anyone else believes in a purple cow orbiting the earth and sending blissful signals to those who are righteous as long as they don't harm me or others. Live and let live!
EdKesokram 4 months ago
I love this. I made a toast to Carl Sagan at my wedding reception, just a month ago now. I tried to make the same point you make here, but I like the way you put it better. Cheers, and happy Carl Sagan Day to you! (And to all of you!)
TheHjalmur 4 months ago
Happy Carl Sagan Day! Happy Neil Degrasse Tyson Day! Happy Richard Dawkins Day! Happy Christopher Hitchens Day! Happy Sam Harris Day! Happy AronRa Day! Happy Zomgitzcriss Day! Happy QualiaSoup Day! And last but never least, Happy CompletelyLovely Day! (that last one is a holiday I can get behind)
dubbleplusgood 4 months ago
It's unfortunate that we currently only have this pale blue dot to live on. I would like to stretch out to the stars.
Jonstern1983 4 months ago
Now That's inspirational! : )
Thereminator101 4 months ago
Hydrogen MAKES helium through heat and pressure and the splitting and re-fusing of atoms together when compressed together through vast pressures of its own weight. Then the star takes the helium and fuses it together to make carbon then after that, the carbon is pressed together to make other elements up to iron. After iron is made it takes too much energy to further make anything past iron, so then supernovas make all the rest of the elements. The gases still rule the universe, though.
baldone46 4 months ago
I think I'm in love.
Leprechaun1984 4 months ago
good locking AND smart. and happy so it seams... those is the best of girls... :)
fattigbonddrang 4 months ago
@fattigbonddrang you forgot uber-sexy. if she wasn't in friggin' calgary *sorry babe, just can't hack it*, i would so.... ;)
dubbleplusgood 4 months ago
@dubbleplusgood word!
fattigbonddrang 4 months ago
The unimaginable density in 'unity' and even in the moment after the big bang would have produced a level of gravity much stronger than any black hole that expansion would have be impossible. Even if it didn't, don't fiercely commit yourself to a belief that requires just as much faith as the Abrahamic religions. Also consider the uniqueness of the cosmological constants, and if they had differed by only a fraction of a fraction then we wouldn't be here. Also consider the complexity of DNA...
D0KTOR7 4 months ago
Religion says that we're made of dirt - and so, in fact, does science. Science also says, however, that dirt happens to be made of star stuff.
The Earth is a big chunk of dirt, and if abiogenesis and evolution means anything, it is that we grew out of the Earth.
discordic 4 months ago
I'm made of star stuff too)
MrStardust85 4 months ago
This is so stupid.
avril14thlove 4 months ago
Heather, I was an atheist until I seen your vids, now I think god may exist!!! You RAWK!
mrbig4872 4 months ago
Why are there still religions? It's just so obvious that the god(s) don't answer prayer.
RuinSonic 4 months ago
Well said, Heather!
letmeplaymystrat 4 months ago
I can hardly hear you...
540merlin 4 months ago
And I thought it was Joni Mitchell..."we are star dust, we are golden.." Was this not about 1969 or so?
Lifeiscurious 4 months ago
I would love to see Cosmos again on TV.
hargieboo 4 months ago
Good video, but the volume was waaaaaaaay low
BENY0HAMA 4 months ago
Are you going to start molting in to a Moby song?
TheLummer66 4 months ago
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Total human biomass : ~Half a trillion metric tons. This is only 1 billionth of a billionth of a Sun-like star. We are unique and lucky kind of matter. Statistically, all of us have inside us a molecule that once lied within Cleopatra, Napoleon or Carl Sagan.
Neueregel 4 months ago
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Neueregel 4 months ago
CL, you're in danger of having few of us guys actually listen to your compelling messages because most of us are only admiring you, and yes - most likely letting a few unholy thoughts enter our minds, as well! Keep these videos up and you can bet that eventually you're going to be an internet star-who is made of stardust! Your contents of stardust, helium, hydrogen and all the rest came together to make a wonderful, thoughtful person, so KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
EdKesokram 4 months ago
You are just completely lovely :)
AnImmortalEra 4 months ago
I love the enthusiasm! I wish at least half of the people I met were as enthusiastic as you were! I don't know how anyone can stand in the face of the beautiful truth around us and not feel humbled by this big beautiful Universe!
tonymuyo 4 months ago
you need to smoke some weed...
arnoldnavarro21 4 months ago
Great video!
canbuyu 4 months ago
I butterfly lovely....
realpqleur 4 months ago
maybe Jesus was a star...ehh? Ever think about that??? :D Good videos keep them coming :)
finalxcx 4 months ago
Awesome commentary!
DangerousTalk 4 months ago
your right, you are pretty rapable,,, i mean pretty
TakeADumpOnYourChest 4 months ago
Boobs made of stars.
amjan 4 months ago
When my daughter was 5 or 6, we had her outside hunting for Easter Eggs. She kept finding eggs and bringing them to me and say the most random stuff. We got to egg 11 and she looked me square in the eyes and said "We are made of star dust." She was vehemently adamantly. Then she ran out and found egg12 and came back with "chocolate is good for the soul." We sat on the porch and ate Reese's Cups. Everything was right int the world at that moment in time.
kelliko70 4 months ago
You're a star!!!
ekhaat 4 months ago
Lovely, completely
LJonYT 4 months ago
I really loved this!
AGNOSTICEXTREME 4 months ago
You wrote of the significance of our origins, our past. I have written of the potential of our future, your words reminded me of that writing and a passage from Carl Sagan's book "Cosmos". In a poetic sense as Carl Sagan puts it, "we are a way for the universe to know itself".
Plasmon19 4 months ago
Beautiful tribute. My favorite so far. Thanks!
GoneApostate 4 months ago
When are you going to move to the UK and become my wife?
January is a good time for me!
rarrmonkey 4 months ago
We cannot be completely sure whether a GOD does not exist.
There is always a possibility.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 And that is a completely pointless thing to say. We can't be completely sure there are no unicorns, either. So what?
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack the point I am trying to make is.
Atheists have not given a straight answer. They need to say there is no such thing as a GOD and then prove it.
You have to prove beyond any doubt that God doesnt exist only then the religious types will change their ways.
Also you must learn to stick to the subject which is GOD. We are not talking about fictional characters like Unicorns, Father Christmas, Dragons etc...
So dont try and change the subject matter.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666
Okay, prove me to me that a giant pink armadillo does not live on the ocean floor...
oh you can't do it? He must exist then!!!
scubasloth8 4 months ago
@scubasloth8 look we are not talking about pink Armadillos, Ghosts and Goblins etc...
We are talking about the existence of a GOD. God the creator.
God the being that every single civilisation has been worshipping since the beginning of time.
Does this being exist, YES or NO?
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666
Most atheists don't say there is no god. We just dismiss it as an unprovable speculation.
AspiringPotato 4 months ago
@AspiringPotato there is the problem.
The fact that atheists are unwilling to say there is NO GOD allows religious folks to remain in their position.
Atheists need to be more clear. There needs to be certainty for atheists to have any credibility.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 No. You are completely wrong. There is no difference, AT ALL, between gods and unicorns. None. They both have no evidence to support them. They both do not explain any natural phenomena. They are both entirely imaginary.
There is no way (and no reason) to prove the non-existence of something. However, without any evidence that something does exist, there is no reason to accept that it does exist.
Also? "prove beyond any doubt" is a meaningless statement in science.
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack we can prove beyond any doubt that Unicorns do not exist. The majority of people in the world will be willing to accept that there is no such thing as a UNICORN.
But when it comes to GOD the creator. This character is much harder to prove, mainly because every civilisation since the beginning of time have been bought up belieing in this GOD character. They have all been told God is invisible and cant be seen etc...
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 You are simply oozing logical fallacies, here. You cannot, ever, "prove beyond any doubt" that something doesn't exist. If you think you can, you don't know how to think. Seriously, logic works, and there are rules.
What the "majority of people" believe or accept has no bearing on truth. None at all.
There are many, many things that can be supported by evidence but cannot be "seen".
Gods are imaginary. Zeus, Ra, Odin, Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah, etc. All were made up to explain nature.
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack By "gods are imaginary" I suppose you mean, to the best of our knowledge, correct? But I just want to point out not all Gods can be brushed off as imaginary. If by imaginary you mean, confined only to one's imagination and having no basis in reality...that seems an unfounded leap in logic to me. The concept of whether the universe had a creator or not is a philosophical concept that has been argued back and forth, its an uncertainty. Just ask Stephen Hawking :D. Anyways good day
radscorpion8 4 months ago
@radscorpion8 you can argue it up down left right inside outside all you wish. There's zero evidence supporting the 'argument'.
dubbleplusgood 4 months ago
@radscorpion8 All gods are equally supported by evidence - that is to say, not at all. They are all equally imaginary.
"Creator god" may be a philosophical concept, but it is also a nonsensical one. Why must the creator of the universe be a god? Or even sentient? Adding unsupported attributes to an event is sloppy thinking, It violates Occam's Razor.
What Hawking thinks about this is not important (but, incidentally, he does not believe in a creator god). What matters is evidence.
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack you say Gods are imaginary, man made nonsense to explain away the creation of the world, nature and so on.
But at the same time your also saying you cannot prove beyond any doubt the non existence of a God.
You seem to be undecided or your sitting on the fence.
You either believe in one thing or another.
If you want people to think logically then you have to be more clear
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 Again, you only think this, because you do not know how to think properly. One cannot ever disprove the existence of anything beyond a doubt. That is not possible.There is no fence siting - only understanding how logic and reality work.
I do not believe _anything_. I accept as true that which is supported by evidence. Leprechauns, gods, unicorns, fairies - there is no evidence for any of them. Therefore, They are all as likely as each other. Why accept any of them?
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack once again I told you that unicorns, Fairies, Leprichauns etc.. can be proved to be false, because we can trace their origins back to the time in history.
You cannot compare "GOD" with any of these other work of fiction.
All the other work of fiction that you have mentioned can be proved to be man made.
I keep telling you its only GOD you cannot prove.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 Yes, you keep telling me that, and you keep being wrong. There is no difference between fairies, roman deities, and Jewish/christian deities. None. All of them were made up to explain natural phenomena, and all of them failed to do so
You cannot disprove the existence of anything, sorry. You simply can't. That is not how logic works. If there is no evidence at all for the existence of something, that is a compelling reason to not accept it exists, but it is not "proof" that it doesn't
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@Nuron666 Personal gods (Ra, Odin, Yahweh, Allah, etc.) are identical to Fairies - Made up.
Creator gods are entirely unnecessary, as they don't add anything to our understanding. We know how the diversity of life came to be on Earth. We know how the Earth &rest of the solar system formed. We know how the Universe has changed over time.
We don't know what started the Universe, nor do we know exactly what started life. But to posit an angry guy who likes the smell of burnt flesh did it is wrong
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack yes scientists may have come up with a theory on how the earth and the rest of the solar system were formed.
But how accurate are these theories. There is always an element of doubt.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 That is how science works. These are theories (as opposed to hypotheses) because they are supported by all of the evidence, make accurate predictions, and have no unnecessary attributes (i.e., are parsimonious).
Having an "element of doubt" is simply part of understanding. Doubt-free certainty is for children and religious fanatics.
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack but isnt it in everyones interest to provide evidence in order to eliminate all those that blindly follow religion, God etc...
Once religions are destroyed then we can all live in peace.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 There is no such thing as evidence against the existence of gods - or fairies, or ghosts, etc. There is a definite _lack_ of evidence for them, but that is not the same thing.
Unfortunately, even some atheists are steeped in magical thinking. Bill Maher with his idiot alt med nonsense; libertarians with their, well, complete inability to understand rational arguments; etc.
I think sloppy thinking will be with us for a while, because it is far easier than critical thinking.
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
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Nuron666 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack So basically nothing really changes. Followers of religion will remain as they are.
The Human race make no progress.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 The people don't change (much), but society does. No more routine human or animal sacrifice, for example. Or witch burnings. Also, regulated meds and food help protect against some woo dangers. Not perfect, but getting better.
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack yes the old rituals have gone. Christianity has improved, but you still have the Islamics who are multipyling, colonising countries, Many billions of Muslims are migrating to European countries and they are producing millions of kids and indoctrinating them.
The trouble with Atheists is, they are not producing enough kids, so many western countries are bringing in foreign cultures, religions like Islam which opposes the Athiest way of thinking. Placing a holt in Atheism progress
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 Actually, christianity didn't improve, per se. It was defanged by the secular liberal democracies that emerged from the Enlightenment. Islam has yet to experience that.
In my opinion, children grow up to be secularists because they are properly educated, and not neccessarily because they have secular parents. Many of those European Muslims may have atheist (or, at least, moderate Muslim) children. Or one would hope.
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack but is secularism really taking over through education. From what I have seen, religion is becoming more and more popular. Not just the old Muslim, Christian lot. We now have new age spiritual type of religions, scientology, buddhism etc...
Down in London where I live there are more Mosques then Christian Churches. All built within a 50 year period since the opening of the borders to 3rd world migrants.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 Agreed, there are a lot of new mosques in London. And that is a problem - because Islam is more out of control than christianity is today. And you are also right about the new age woo crowd (fortunately, though, they don't advocate curtailing the rights of other like the damn christians and Muslims do).
But I still think the evidence points to more of Europe becoming secular _despite_ the influx of immigrants with their religious nonsense. Education breeds secularism. Fact :)
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack history shows us, throughout the last 1400 years, Muslims have been colonising country after country right across Africa, Asia, Europe by using a simple tactic. They move in and they out breed the natives and eventually they become the majority. They then become influencial with the way the government is run.
This is already happening in the UK, Sweden, France, Holland, Norway etc..
I just think the secularists have underestimated this desert religion.
Nuron666 4 months ago
@Nuron666 No. Those secularists ARE the muslims.
Muslims created secularism and atheism, to control the disgruntled uneducated masses more easily.
This is how ISlam controls the atheists. They give you dogma, you eat it, then you become a slave of Islam, while thinking you're some sort of "freedom person".
Nope. Allah is still your lord, dear fanatic. And only Muslims benefit from Atheism and Secularism.
Muslims feared one thing. Christian Crusaders of pure heart and True Faith.
No longer.
Soveraine 3 months ago
@Soveraine I agree with your comment when you say Muslims benefit from Atheism and Secularism.
At the end of the day, Secularists are basically a push over.
The Islamic colonisers must be rubbing their hands.
Nuron666 3 months ago
@Nuron666 You forgot, licking their purple lips and dirty moustaches.
Inquisitions and Crusaders scared Islam more than it scared the rest. Or so history here in Europe goes about it.
Personally I approve of the Arian Christian Inquisitions and Crusaders, less than the Catholic ones, which are more pro-muslim, and pro-secular, than the other White christian religions of Europe.
Soveraine 3 months ago
@Soveraine Christians now a days are not like those guys from the past.
So we really cannot rely on the Christians or the Atheists to save us from the Islamic colonisation.
Christianity is a dieing religion, specially in Europe.
These secularist NUMBSKULLS have well and truly screwed Europe and practically handed it over to the Islamics.
Nuron666 3 months ago
@Nuron666 You think they don't know this?
The turkish tribes created WEsternology and Secularism to infiltrate the other worlds easily.
So peacefully, since they already lost by war. Their tactics seem to work. They only need a few people to be traitors, and they are the corrupt law creators or law voters, who are probably more related to ISlamic people than to europeans or whites.
Soveraine 3 months ago
@Nuron666 Secularism or Westernisation is an Asian Cult.
It was forged in the atheist fires of Turkish Hordes, in Asia.
What else would you expect from it's followers?
Soveraine 3 months ago
@Soveraine I dont agree with you when you say secularism as being a Asian cult.
Secularism, Atheism are creations of European society. It may be a naive ideology. The intensions were good.
The only problem is, it has failed. They did not think about the consequences.
I am sure if these Europeans could turn the clock back to 1945. They would not have allowed mass immigration and multiculturalism
Nuron666 3 months ago
@Nuron666 Then why is there no proof of it, here in Europe?
Universities were home to homosexuals, jews, greeks and latinos. The minorities of non-white complexion that invaded Europe from Africa and Asia.
Normal white europeans had different beliefs. They had no contribution here to secularism or atheism, as far as I've studied European History.
Again. No white person here in Europe, who is of sane mentality ever agreed to extraeuropean immigrants or multiculturalism.
We were all Nazis.
Soveraine 3 months ago
@Soveraine If you look at European societies.
What you find is, when people become wealthy and edcuated, they start adopting a liberal way of thinking
Specially children of wealthy parents. If you go and look at the universities, its the students who come from wealthy families who are more likely to embrace socialism and atheism.
And these students then move into politics and become rulers of governments and some take over positions in the media. These are not some invisible foreigner
Nuron666 3 months ago
@Nuron666 'These are not some white locals.
They're non-white foreigners. Everyone knows that.
\You're confusing society with corruption. These people aren't capable or educated, they use the lies of university to steal a role that was made for them.
Politics is a family corruption game. \Outsiders have no part in it. Party corruption is itself a socialist movement, and it's created by non-white minorities alone.
White people don't bother with politics it's obsolete to us, and useless.
Soveraine 3 months ago
@Soveraine you need to investigate when all these events like immigration, racial equality, sexual revolution, etc.. began to take over.
It was the 1960's. The flower power generations, hippies, Rock bands, Actors, Media presenters, civil rights protestors etc. Nearly all of them were white middle class Europeans. The young generation at that time with their university education changed the face of Europe.
Europeans basically shot themselves in the foot.
Nuron666 3 months ago
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@Nuron666 Racial equality created by the idiot yankees when you stopped pretending like you don't love niggers.
You released those niggers from the zoos and cotton fields, and for what? To use them as cannon fodder against Europe.
WW2 happened because a bunch of non-whites, who were subhuman by Nazi standards, realised you aren't white. And all of you will be thrown out of Europe, and seen as the savages and lowlifes you are.
So you used 1945 to infiltrate agents from outside Europe, and use
Soveraine 3 months ago
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@Nuron666 As an excuse to great worthless propaganda like fagtors, cock bands, chippies, racial equality nonsense.
It was your fear that created this. Your lowlife agents of propaganda, who infiltrated Europe, after the 1945, and is the true source of this corruption.
The cancer is non-whites, minorities like bolivians, egyptians, jennifers and other non-white ethnics, who are racist against Whites.
You created this. You made this happen, yourselves. Europe is both the Target and the Excuse.
Soveraine 3 months ago
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@Nuron666 Underestimating the racism, xenophobia, intolerance and white supremacism of white europeans, is truly foolish of you.
Europeans don't just "change". Whites are unable to change since before Christian ages. There's no way they'd all suddenly allow mortals and other subhuman nonwhites to "immigrate".
All the countries of Europe, who are filled with non-white immigrants, are unhappy with them. If Hitler had won the world war, Europe would be White and Free again.
As for the other one
Soveraine 3 months ago
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@Nuron666 SExual revolution? What does that mean? This concept is unknown to me.
Is it like bestiality or animal brothels? The type that are a success in atheist countries, like Denmark or something like that?
I heard about that from american christians. I used to think they were joking, and making fun of the atheist sheeple, but then I saw their links, and saw it's true.
The Jewish religion of Atheism, is very weird, to say the least. And Europe is their main target, they fear White Europe.
Soveraine 3 months ago
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@Nuron666 What "society" in Europe created them? I have never heard of any society here to create them.
Unless you mean the Jacobin (jewish) attempt to create the Polish republic, which failed, but created a revolution in France?
Again, these are all Western corruptions, originated by non-europeans. Like Napoleon or his turks, the turkish Mammelucks from Egypt, the jewish Jacobins and their Frankist allies from Russia.
Only the small factions benefited from Secularism, because they stole tax.
Soveraine 3 months ago
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@Nuron666 Europeans never allowed immigration or believed in multiculturalism.
It was only the Westernised, Secular, Colonial Impires, like Spain, France, Britain, that used such Dogma to incorporate slaves as labourers and mercenaries from the non-white minorities in their distant colonies, beyond the seas.
So "empires" led by Jews, including Charles the Fifth, the Jewish king of Spain, and Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, allowed influx of non-whites into Europe.
Whites never did this.
Soveraine 3 months ago
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@Nuron666 Also 1945 was when Mohamericans, Asians and Africans invaded White Europe.
You people are the only reason masses of subhumans and nonwhites invaded Europe as "immigrants" after 1945.
Ever seen the documentary about Hitler giving speeches to the reich people, about Roosvelt and the jewish affinities of Achmedistan?
The jewish corrupt was prevalent in the lies of the West, including Achmedistan / Mohamerica.
You aren't white people, just jewified and halfbred with subhumans.
Soveraine 3 months ago
@Nuron666 As for the Reczpospolita of the Polish Lithuanian Common wealth, you have the Mongols to blame for that.
The golden Horde's yurta and Codes of Dogmatic Atheism, were kept from the Asians who invaded Europe, by the Polish turks.
The Polish sarmatians immediately used the Atheist laws of their Turkish family from Mongolia and Asia, to create the Secularist nonsense that apparently shaped even Achmedistan.
So you have the Turks to thank for that. And they're all Asians. Thank them now.
Soveraine 3 months ago
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@Nuron666 Or blame, if that's what you were after.
Atheism was never a european faith. It was infiltrated as Ideology and Dogma, by jewish and other non-white "revolutionaries".
They belonged to the Illuminist cult. They weren't white, or even native europeans. They were semites, turanoids and other subhumans, from the Colonies of France, Britain or Spain.
It was those colonists from outside Europe, that created all the corruption of Illuminism, Atheism and Secularism.
Do your research, now.
Soveraine 3 months ago