Permaculture for Humanity

[NavyBlueSTL]

Imagine everyone working to help each other and the earth. That is my dream. I never want to profit off of others. I want to benefit from my own hard work. Thanks for the video.

[mmmga]

"If we can really understand the problem, the answer will come out of it, because the answer is not separate from the problem"

[711shamonkey]

larry is a badass!

[peakmoment]

Climate change a hoax? Not to the U.S. Military, who are making plans because of it. See "Climate Concerns Spur Changes in U.S. Military" on ipsnews-dot-net dated April 30, 2010

[LeijaTurunen]

"Though the problems of the world are increasingly complex, the solutions remain embarrassingly simple."- YES!!! Great interview! Thank-you! :)

[estoboy29]

iv got an idea to fix food and mat issues.place a pvc system over a building and run water through it, and let grow hemp for the first year to produce the materials needed to get eco friendly. fill our streets with hemp pots full of veggies and blast them with our lovely supersoakers. whos for that future?

[baubosophia]

My concern is the time to build up capacity. Fruit and nut trees take years to bear. People need time to build skills, build soil, test and grow out stock. Meanwhile the the fascist bill HR 2749 just passed Congress. It still has to go to the Senate. You better get busy and stop this monster!! The Food Safety Enhancement Act of 2009 basically turns American agriculture over to Monsanto. They can make it illegal to have a garden if they want to. Bye, bye CSAs and farmers' markets.

[survivalpodcasting]

It is funny how so many Al Gore worshipers buried my last comment because I said Global Warming is a lie. I think most did not read the entire comment and how it defended permaculture. I have been practicing permaculture for a LONG time even though I think man made warming is a lie. The fact that people hate on statements like this shows the depth of dogma and ignorance of those that embrace this voodoo theory in spite of any and all evidence, such as the last three years of falling temps.

[peakmoment]

Independent scientist James Lovelock states that the primary indicator of global climate change is not temperature but melting of polar and glacial ice, both of which are melting far faster than scientific models had predicted. Does it matter whether or not it was human-made? What matters is that it is happening and the consequences could be dire.

[survivalpodcasting]

@peakmoment, Yes man made or not matters because the claim it is is being used to sell the population on complete destruction on the economy. I guess we should ignore period of time just 500 years ago when the Vikings had massive numbers of sheep grazing on the hills in Greenland?

Look I am for alternative energy, promote permaculture on my show, etc. The myth of CO2 based global warming is going to backfire in time. Great ideas don't need a fear myth to sell them, they stand on their own.

[peakmoment]

@survivalpodcasting: again, it's not the temperature fluctations (sure there was a mini-ice age in the 1700s) but the hugely increased CO2 in the atmosphere, more than the systems can absorb.

The CO2 rise correlates directly with burning fossil fuels (and of course with population rise). The graphs are alarming. Last time Earth had this much atmospheric CO2, all absorption systems failed and it took 100,000 years to get back in balance.

[survivalpodcasting]

CO2 has a "saturation limit" The first CO2 molecules matter a lot, but extra ones have less and less effect. Carbon levels were ten times as high in the past but the world still slipped into an iceage. Carbon today is a bit-part player. The carbon thats already up in the atmosphere absorbs most of the light it can. CO2 only soaks up its favorite wavelengths of light and its close to its saturation point. Again I would love to be on your show and give a fair and common sense opposing view.

[survivalpodcasting]

In addition In 1985, ice cores extracted from Greenland revealed temperatures and CO2 levels going back 150,000 years. Temperature and CO2 seemed locked together. It was a turning point—the greenhouse effect aptured attention. But in 1999 it became clear carbon rose and fell after temperatures did. By 2003 we had better data showing the lag was 800 ± 200 years. CO2 was in the back seat. If carbon is the cause why do historic records show that temps rose before the carbon levels rose?

[demedici2012]

There are scientific evidences that reveal that CO2 levels and temperature oscillated with minimal differential until the start of the industrial revolution, CO2 levels skyrocketed.

[Axbent]

@peakmoment the question is if the graphs are correct!? /user/m3553ng3r#p/u/13/fr5O1Hs­TVgA

[wheelori814]

@peakmoment the last time we had this much co2 was in the mideival ages when there werent any vehicles and such. its a natural cycle and we need to figure out what will be best grown and where because of this new cycle (new to us) look back to that time and there might be answeres.

[peakmoment]

@wheelori814, there's a stunning graph in wikipedia titled "Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere", showing the dramatic spike in CO2 concentrations since the industrial age began. CO2 concentrations are now far higher than even the highest concentrations during the last 400,000 years. The graph shows clearly that the recent spike is not like the previous spikes.

[wheelori814]

@peakmoment there are tons of stunning graphs, and the one i look to be most credible is the co2 in the ice caps. It shows that we have had this much co2 before and it was at the LAST ICE AGE. Once again before the industiral age. The scientist that were talking about global warming were caught in a big lie, if you havent heard about that you should catch up on current events. The earth has been cooling for the past 5 years

[Hashishin13]

@peakmoment If it isn't temperature related then CO2 concentrations mean nothing at all, the % of CO2 RELATIVE TO EVERYTHING ELSE in the atmosphere is minimal. Even if it tripled it would be under 1% of the air, we are in no risk of suffocation. As you said in another comment the latest graph says this is the highest in 400,000 years, well our species is one million years old, if it didn't kill us then it definatly won't now.

[baubosophia]

Well, yes, I think we can count on dire consequences. Depopulation and rewilding are part of the UN plan. The truth matters because it matters that humanity get up off its knees, stop believing the lies coming from the top of the pyramid and find new more positive ways of being human. Let's just start with the premise that 90% of what you & I "know" is incorrect. Wake up! What do you REALLY want to do this morning?

[gobbism]

larry is on twitter too

[racinkc]

good to see. permaculture is the future. build community with food and learn to take care of eachother. god speed.

[LarkaSojourn]

Is this Larry Santoyo's channel / if not can you direct me to his YT or Website? Please?

[peakmoment]

Peak Moment channel has a broad range of guests and topics around personal and local community self-reliance and resilience, the end of cheap oil, financial survival. If a guest has a website, we put at at the end of the description (top right beside the video.) Larry's is earthflow-dot-com

[baubosophia]

This is my favorite of the Peak Moment series. I wish I could make this required viewing for everyone. 5% is a rosy projection for % of population needed to grow food. But it may be possible once a system is well established with mature plants. The arrival (in 2011 according to Halfpast Human) of the first tabletop "free"energy machines would help. I agree with him that it is a way of life - a way of relating to everything & everyone. It is the antithesis of the dog-eat-dog world.

[polyzygote]

"5% is a rosy projection for % of population needed to grow food"

less than %2 of the population are farmers now, and horticulture is much more productive than agriculture, so i don't think it is an unreasonable figure. 5 knowledgeable gardeners working full time i think could feed 100. there would be others involved in storage, distribution, & preparation of course.

[baubosophia]

Most temperate perennial crops are fruit. The big exception = nut trees. But nut trees take 15 years or so to produce. We need protein, complex carb and oils. Also, building up a soil can take a decade. What I'm saying is I agree with you BUT there is quite a lead time to get to that place. If the present food production system collapsed tomorrow it would take 10 to 20 years to get to where most people practiced little or no food growing, yet everyone could have a healthy diet.

[polyzygote]

"Most temperate perennial crops are fruit"

there are many exceptions to this rule, often little known and quite surprising. there is a truly excellent book called 'perennial vegetables' by Eric Toensmeier which details many of these for temperate zones, which i highly recommend.

even w/o the ideal of perennials though i think that many small scale high intensity, ecologically sound annual gardens could quickly be taken care of by 5% of the population. humans adapt very quickly

[polyzygote]

here's just part of a list of temperate perennial veggies from his site for your interest:

Welsh onion, ramps, garlic chives, groundnut, udo, asparagus, Turkish rocket, camass, wild hyacinth

good king Henry, chicory, sea kale, jinenjo, Chinese yam, sunchoke, daylily, wood nettle, lovage, musk mallow, ostrich fern, watercress, water celery, fuki, pokeweed, giant Solomons seal, rhubarb, sorrel, arrowhead, scorzonera, skirret, Chinese artichoke, dandelion, linden, nettles

[glukkan]

well i think the whole point is that the only reason 2% of the population is feeding the rest of the world is because of cheap oil. Peakmoment is looking at how people are preparing for a world beyond cheap oil.

[PowerForGood]

A bunch of incorrect assumptions underly this video. In truth, man can either evolve his technology and prosper in that way, or he can devolve back to the stone ages, have diseases, die young, become less plentiful, etc. (logical conclusion of this guys suggestions). Fossile fuels are not a problem! They have not peaked. There is no global warming! Real solutions: Drill in America. Build nuclear power plants, use electric trains(from nuke power), etc. Gardens are great but this is ridiculous.

[peakmoment]

Technology is not energy. Energy is necessary for all life, while technologies require energy.

The EIA has acknowledged we've reach peak oil. Global climate chaos (not just warming) is acknowledged by the vast majority of scientists (many deniers were paid by corporations to assert their position). Even uranium has peaked.

But the alternative is not to go back o the stone age! Medieval or Renaissance Europe lived fine with less energy -- and spent far fewer hours working than we do.

[PowerForGood]

Technology is the product of the human mind. Technology has given us access to energy in many forms. Some forms of potential energy are extremely efficient; concentrated and we have the technology to utilize them (oil for instance). Others are limited in total output but are renewable (elevated water, wind, ethanol, etc.) Nuclear power is limitless. Fossil fuels have limits but we have not reached those limits yet (shale oil, etc). (propagandized statements by the EIA are not to be trusted)

[survivalpodcasting]

Global warming is a lie, that is true. The need to do more with less is still quite real. I watch peakmoment because I want people to take this type of action. The world governments are using global warming to create more taxes and it is a scam. That doesn't mean we won't run out of oil or that we won't benefit if more people follow the advice of permaculturists.

[PowerForGood]

I agree with everything that you wrote; thank you for replying.

[ekkar]

I know. It is especially impressive how the governments are organizing the melting of the ice caps, as well as permafrost, and glaciers, just to get at them taxes. Thank you for your THOUGHTFUL comments. This is the kind of CLEAR insights we need now in this desprate time of governmental tricks for taxes.

[baubosophia]

Climate change is real. Most of the planets have warmed and several appear to have had pole shifts. Currently the northern hemisphere is cooling. It warmed about 1 degree C (same as Mars) from the 1970s until a huge peak in 1998. The cause seems to be greatly increased volcanic activity esp. in the oceans. The jet stream has changed. Volcanoes belch out CO2, SO2, etc. Check out "Climate Depot" website. TPTB know all this; they're not telling us. EPA climate report suppressed... Fraudsters!

[survivalpodcasting]

Great points, there is massive evidence for climate change, there is almost NO REAL EVIDENCE for man causing it especially with CO2. The reality is CO2 rapidly reaches a saturation point where its' additional contribution to the greenhouse effect becomes almost meaningless. I would love to be a guest on Peakmoment to present the other logical side of this debate and how I think we can better spread the message of alternative energy, permaculture, peak oil, etc devoid of Al Gore Voodool

[polyzygote]

the polar ice caps and permafrost are melting as we speak. in less than five years it is expected that there will be no more summer ice left at the north pole. at this point denying climate change is just conspiracy theorizing. there has never been as great a scientific consensus in history. denial is quite natural though considering both the magnitude of the problem and the way human psychology works, as well as the massive corporate sponsored propaganda machine. good luck to you.

[neven01]

I like this guys message

It is or was and should be an instinctual drive to survive and to insure that your kin prosper self-sufficiently.

[misscarilynn]

hurray for the lovely, clear, thoughtful and systematic mind of Larry Santoyo! I would love to here him speak more and more. Such a sensible and fearless perspective. Thank you for this very refreshing out look and always for exposing us to deeper and deeper ways of experiencing the gift of our present! PMA! (positive mental attitude)

[zml59]

i love this way of looking at things.. glad to see this video.....

[simplespirit101]

Yes!

[onewholearth]

housing, water, food, energy, occupation the wholearth system.

[hguyw]

Wow! Permaculture needs to put this guy front and center! My biggest beef with permaculture is that it tends to attract way too many 'doomers'. By the time they get done reciting their litany of doom as justification for what they do, I just end up feeling it's all hopeless so why bother. I love Larry's message and I think it's one that permaculture MUST promote if it ever hopes to go mainstream.

[DKW2088]

It seems that our problem with agriculture is human laziness.

[quantumsolutions]

Listening to him I actually had a vision of thanking Monsanto CEO for pushing us to the edge so that we could rediscover all the beauty of taking it back into our own hands.

Truly Lovely. Thank you so much for this.

[99minerkc]

I had a vision of you hugging the very tree I had previously  on! o.O

[feralkevin]

Phenomenology. It's what's out there.

[theproducegarden]

good vid!

[yogiudo]

Don't forget about the financial oligarchy who expect to be supported and have no interest whatsoever in making any changes to their life style whatsoever and will use force to maintain their life style.

While it is fine and dandy to say the solutions are simply, they're less simple when you have to pay taxes.

[quantumsolutions]

You don't HAVE to pay taxes

That's a big trick. Ýou only have to pay if you submit to filing. Don't file. Or if afraid to do that (understood) transition to a simple life where you make less than the poverty limit. If apply these prinicples, don't need money.

Russia has passed law thanks to Anastasia Ringing Cedars books that land or goods sold from the land shall not be taxed. Wow!!

When mankind or Kind Man no longer submits to his own oppression (thieving of his monetary energies)

[kkob]

@yogiudo Then we should do nothing? The solutions are simple. The simplest is to stop being afraid and realize you *are* the government, if you want to be. Change is coming. We can adapt, or we can let those you speak of be the destruction of us all.

Up to you.

[yogiudo]

@kkob kkob: Stop perpetuating the meme that *we* are the government. We're not. That is so easily refutable that anyone with even the smallest remnants of living organic tissue in their brains knows it be completely and utterly false - Both logically and intuitively false.

[kkob]

@yogiudo I understand you are implying TPTB control all and always will, or that you are one of TPTB wanting to encourage the rest of us to give up, but I have a young son, so don't have that luxury.

[crewlla]

thats right people have to learn to adapt not the earth.