jersey central got it's coal from the Lehigh Vally (as did the Reading) Anthracite mining produced waste coal called Culm. it burns much cleaner but also slower, releasing it's energy over a longer period of time. This required a larger firebox than the soft coal burners in order to keep the steam up. so a rail super named Wootten designed the Wootten Firebox a larger wider grate which to burn more culm. But it was so wide it blocked the crews view forward. So they put the cab in front of it.
Could be quieter and more wanted...but that's not what they do HERE in Okc. Looks like nobody wants to go to burned-out Texas which is where it MAINLY goes....we need trollies here, but o-noooooo....! Bitches.
Camelbacks came about through of the use of Wooten fireboxes. Which burned waste anthracite coal. When originally built the cab was centered for clearances due to a smaller loading gauge then in use. However, as clearances became larger the RR's could have pushed the cabs back but that would have cost money so was rarely done. The government eventually passed a law stopping further production because of safety. The PRR tried them and dumped them on LIRR till scrapping
Classic CNJ Camelbacks! You have to love those man-killers. Note how many people are involved in these fan trip switching maneuvers. The engineers perched on the window sill would send OSHA into orbit!
I haven't seen Camelback Steamers for some time. Wonderful video.
ATSF1927 4 months ago
jersey central got it's coal from the Lehigh Vally (as did the Reading) Anthracite mining produced waste coal called Culm. it burns much cleaner but also slower, releasing it's energy over a longer period of time. This required a larger firebox than the soft coal burners in order to keep the steam up. so a rail super named Wootten designed the Wootten Firebox a larger wider grate which to burn more culm. But it was so wide it blocked the crews view forward. So they put the cab in front of it.
monsoon11317 5 months ago
wut was the advanntage of a camelack loco anyway? I've always wanted to ask but never got the chance to
trainguy3 5 months ago
Could be quieter and more wanted...but that's not what they do HERE in Okc. Looks like nobody wants to go to burned-out Texas which is where it MAINLY goes....we need trollies here, but o-noooooo....! Bitches.
Licmycat 5 months ago
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bebtozoltan55 1 year ago
Camel backs are stange....
AlcoholicSemenStain 1 year ago
Im so glad you added these vids I had the VHS set and it got ruined so its hard finding these VIDS!
pianomanmaestro 1 year ago
There's something magic about steam engines.
bikeguy98 1 year ago
Must have been deadly to work on these engines, engineer perched near the hot boiler, no space, no air. Aye
papoocanada 1 year ago
@papoocanada Yes - nothing romantic about the camelbacks if you had to work on one every day!
boazrg 1 year ago
@boazrg
Yes, and nothing romantic about those days if you were working in those days.
kennjohnsen 9 months ago
@kennjohnsen Nothing romantic about the railroad's today either. It is still tough hard dirty work.
CSXtrackworker 7 months ago
@papoocanada they are insulated, you know. it's not perfect, but it's hundreds of degrees, either..
notalott 1 year ago
I have this video. Dan Chandler is a awesome narrator.
thomasVSstewie 1 year ago
Thank you so very much for sharing..............Beautiful, beautiful memories!!!)))
Jlingoa 1 year ago
I hav this on VHS
thomasVSstewie 1 year ago
i have this on a dvd
shininghappyperson7 2 years ago
steam was awsome
rebeljim300 2 years ago 2
Camelbacks came about through of the use of Wooten fireboxes. Which burned waste anthracite coal. When originally built the cab was centered for clearances due to a smaller loading gauge then in use. However, as clearances became larger the RR's could have pushed the cabs back but that would have cost money so was rarely done. The government eventually passed a law stopping further production because of safety. The PRR tried them and dumped them on LIRR till scrapping
StanierBlack5LMS 2 years ago
cool 774! Don Wood tried to saver her, but was unable too.
jimbo2317 2 years ago
So did GMH.
notalott 2 years ago
I have this box set .Lots of cool old steam in the five disk set.
RealIndianPrince 2 years ago
Fascinating video of vintage US Steam, thanks for sharing..5*...Bob
robmasterman 3 years ago
Why did they built camelbacks? For a larger firebox?
SouthernRR4501 3 years ago
Yes - some eastern railroads burned anthracite
waste, not much more than coal dust. A huge
grate area was needed if the dust was not going
to be sucked straight up the stack. They had
the idea [not really true] that the big firebox
dictated a cab in the centre for the engineer.
Martin
v8pilot 3 years ago
Wow, very cool footage indeed!
mj1234321 3 years ago
Classic CNJ Camelbacks! You have to love those man-killers. Note how many people are involved in these fan trip switching maneuvers. The engineers perched on the window sill would send OSHA into orbit!
PRR5406 3 years ago
Great footage, thanks for uploading!
Baldwindiesels 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing this video...my first experience of trains was at the CNJ terminal in Jersey City in the late 1950's. Dean in Cincinnati
dherbert53 3 years ago
That diesel looks like a CLC/ or F.M H-12-44
TrainmasterCurt 4 years ago
The cab diesels are most likely Baldwin "Babyface" double ender DR-6-4-20. The hood units are FM H15-44s.
nepete7 3 years ago
So that's what a camelback looks like in action!! How cool, i am thankful that i can still see steam in Manitoba on the Prairie Dog Central
TrainmasterCurt 4 years ago