your smart know it all ass better hope your right there is no definate evidence either way,but look at revelations and the way the world is today believe by choice anyone that ridicules Christians are empty and nazi's were 25 yrs ahead of us and started our nasa they say they got techknowlegy from demonic channeling laugh if u want but these guys were evil but not silly supersticious idiots
@dudev I do have a very HIGH IQ :D I can draw a map of every state every country tell you about almost every religon where it origanated I can tell you about almost everything,BUT when it comes to faith in God i don't know I go by my feeling and my personal experiences and I do know every life form is a design and energy does not die it changes forms,A Russian scientist even claims vegitation(trees grass ect:) share a soul athiest just act arrogant and mock believers
Well, personal experience is not reliable evidence. And reasonable people --atheists included--require verifiable evidence before they believe in something extraordinary. Also, which god? There are thousands of religions, as I said before. And they contradict one another.
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence" --C. Hitchens.
@dudev yes but are you sure there is no God and everything we do and every thought & feeling is just a waste and is a meaningless existanse??I like truth too and even thogh I believe i feel like smacking the shit out of these ppl that claim to be a prophet and act like they are some chosen one I love to learn and wonder about life I don't claim to know anything I choose to believe and i don't care if anyone thinks it's foolish
I don't claim to know there isn't a god -100%. I'm just sure there's no good evidence for one. I'm 99% sure, and like a good skeptic, I leave the door open for the possibility. If new evidence comes along, I'll look at it.
cremation is such a waste of all that remains.... being buried is a far more generous way of leaving nutrition for the rest that will surely follow, in my lowly opinion that is ;)
@dudev there needs to be more immediate casual foreplay and sex between men and women. if anything, men should be having casual foreplay and sex with women as quickly as within the first 24 hours that they meet, if not withinb the first 12 hours that they meet.
Christians are a curious lot. They apprently spend all their life preparing for the day of their death and their entry into heaven but when the day nears they will fight "tooth and nail" to avoid dying. Maybe deep down inside they really don't have that much faith after all !
I was joking. But seriously, there's no good evidence for the existence of any god. So your silly little threat of the rapture is meaningless to me. It just makes you sound gullible and obnoxious.
@myFriends4eva Actually, the Rapture was not even thought up intil 1600 A.D, which was because some guy had some dreams about people flying in the air, and then he guessed(and alot of other people did) when it would happen, they always went outside, spent all their life savings, and waved in the air the entire day, never came, they were upset with the person who predicted it, but in reality, they should only be mad at themselves for being dumb enough to believe it. Peace~<3 =P
@Alexgoodman2 and you poor fagot wanting sex money and other greedy substance u shall rot in hell with all your other brothers and sisters ill say this again you believe in what u want i will believe in what i desire so fuck you. and i am brainwashed ur brainwashed by the devil himself and ur just another unwanted soul in this world waiting to burn in the eternal fire of hell so please leave me be
Feel that hypocritical Christian love. You're a pathetic and deluded individual who's living in fear of fairy tales. And if anyone questions your belief you threaten them with the story of hell. I really hope you don't breed.
No need to whine like a child. If you don't want to get called out on your comments don't leave any. In the real world, adults debate ideas, they don't hide behind the assumed authority of religion.
@myFriends4eva BURN LITLLE MONKEY BUUUURRRNNN IN HEEEELLLLLLLLLL CUT OPEN CHRISTAN
KILL A CHRISTAN I AM RE-CARNATION OF THE OUR LORD SATAN. NOW BOW DOWN AND BUUURRRNNNNNNN. IM GOIN TO KILL JESUS CHRIST AND THIS TIME HE'S NOT GETTING UP.
There are thousands of religions; maybe you'll be punished for not believing in the right one. Think about it. You're probably only a Christian because you come from a family of Christians, or because you were born in or lived in a Christian community. Odds are your religion is the wrong one, if there is a god.
Don't judge everyone by your twisted view of life. You're projecting your own sinful nature on to others. Your religious beliefs may keep you from being an immoral asshole, but there are many decent people in this world who don't need fear and fairy tales to lead them by the nose. They actually think about the consequences of their own actions --they're not mindless Christian drones. And if you're just going to repeat yourself in the comments, piss off.
@martinbeco What energy? All energy I have is chemical energy. My consciousness is not some special type of energy that will keep on living in some form. My brain is my consciousness and it runs on glucose. In a remote way like car runs with petrol. Both need fuel in some form but that energy doesnt transform into something else.
@Asured So what's the use? Don't worry and live the way you like! I don't really know what happens when you die anyway. All I know is I shouldn't worry because all life ends. And, either way I don't pay much attention to anyone who tells how I should live as long as I respect the current law; and even that is questionable.
@martinbeco I'm sorry as my post ended up more aggressive than it should have. Numerous times I've encountered that kind of "energy" talk and I just don't understand it. Finally I bursted and you just happened to be the target. But I agree, we might never know what happens when we die so let's just be happy without worries about it.
@dudev Your soul isn't a supernatural fairytale. It's simply "you" (individual) & the breath within you.
After someone dies, people generally refer to him or her as "the body of". It's simple observation that the body remains, but who that person was, doesn't. .
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But if you consider yourself without a soul than really you're just as dead during life as your body will be after you breathe your last.
So, you're arrogantly attempting to define something that has no fixed definition? Religious people can't even provide a consistent definition of god, let alone the soul. And spare me the standard religious talking points.
@dudev You can watch a secular news broadcast or read a secular newspaper and if there's a tragedy like a plane crash & 50 people die (for example), they may well phrase it as, "50 souls perished (or were lost).
I'm not being arrogant. It's a pretty well used term inside and outside of religion. Even in the 21st century.
Yes, we all know the word "soul" is sometimes used in a poetic sense. So what? Is that evidence for the soul's existence. The answer is no. Christianity specifically refers to an everlasting soul, which is a supernatural thing. So quit waffling and try to make a point. Reasonable people want evidence, not religious double-talk.
@dudev Oh so now you can define it. I think you're the one who's being arrogant. It's used generally a bit more than just poetically.
I haven't really said anything religious, so I don't see how double talk comes in (unless that's your pat response?). I've made points & am waiting for a good response.
@dudev Christianity does refer to an everlasting/eternal soul. But it's really not a supernatural thing, rather an answer for mortal humans, which is what we are. It's a valid topic.
I might not believe in an afterlife if I didn't think I could influence people after I die. But I know I can. Who I am (my soul) can continue after I die in this physical world. Living on after we die is really a part of human nature. Whether leaving our mark on this world or simply having offspring.
No, you pointed to people having memories of the dead as evidence of an afterlife, which it isn't. And the burden of proof isn't on me; it's on those claiming there is an afterlife.
@dudev How can I have memories of people who lived & died before I was born? What I'm pointing to is the simple reality that we're born into a world continually influenced by people who have long since died. Many we can directly name & many (the majority) we cannot name, but regardless still influence the fabric of human society.
As far as burden of proof, you made this video (not me) basically claiming no afterlife, so proving it is on you.
"As far as burden of proof, you made this video (not me) basically claiming no afterlife, so proving it is on you."
I'm not making a new claim, I'm just dismissing one that religious people have already made without a shred of evidence to back it up. You twisting it around and placing the burden on me is like a sleazy car salesman telling a potential buyer that they have to prove the car runs. Sorry, but that's childish logic, and it's typical of believers.
@dudev I didn't say you were making a new claim. But still you produced this video not me, so in essence you're the car salesman. Why should I buy into your video?
It's no suprise however that you reply to that rather than the point I was making.
You haven't made a coherent point. You're rambling on about memories of dead people. My memories of my dead grandfather are in my head and from my perspective. He's dead and has no afterlife as far as he's concerned, and as far as the evidence goes.
And as some atheists say--"We're not selling anything new, we just not buying what you're selling." Since there's no evidence for an afterlife, the burden is always on those who claim there is one. Atheism has the default position.
@dudev I haven't said anything about memories of a dead person. I'm talking about how a person can still have influence after they have died. In some cases a person has more influence after they've passed than they did during their life. I'm sharing simple observations that you are just avoiding.
As far as atheism goes, there no grand rule that an atheist has to reject the concept or expectation of an afterlife. Atheism isn't the default position. It's just simply your personal opinion.
None of what you're talking about is an afterlife in the generally used sense of the word. It's merely the influence of past events on the present or future. And it has nothing to do the world's religions which preach an eternal afterlife of a disembodied soul --a supernatural entity.
"no grand rule that an atheist reject...an afterlife"
DUH! But atheists try to be good skeptics, and no reliable evidence for an afterlife exists. That's not opinion.
@dudev At this point humans cannot observe whether we (our individual self) continues after we die. We simply lack the ability. However we can observe that an individual can continue to influence after they die. Not events, but who that person was in life & what they expressed or contributed. And right that's not generally used in the sense of the word "afterlife", but we can observe it & in doimg so that should lend itself more in favor that an after life is more possible than not.
Your limited point has nothing at all to do with my video, which addresses the "afterlife" purely in the supernatural and religious sense of the word. So I don't understand why you even bothered commenting in the first place.
And your example has nothing to do with an individual's mental or "spiritual" existence. The fact that influential events continue after a person dies is not life. You're reaching like a drunken poet. Or song writer.. cough, cough.
@dudev Most human cultures through history have their own concepts of an afterlife. And though it is tied to religion, it's also a philosophical topic & as I stated before a valid topic considering we're all mortal.
But i'll agree that your video (as well it seems, your view in general) are of very limited and narrow parameters on the subject. Better that I present my ideas to someone who allows themselves to think outside of the box rather than placing themselves in one.
"I haven't said anything about memories of a dead person."
"How can I have memories of people who lived & died before I was born?"
Try being coherent and consistent, and get to the point. Are you talking about past events influencing the future, or "past lives", or "reincarnation", or what?
@dudev "Are you talking about past events influencing the future, or "past lives", or "reincarnation", or what?"
I'm kinda amazed that you still aren't comprehending what I've been trying to express. Not sure if you're just wrapped up in wanting to stereotype me first rather than get what I'm saying. But your previous reply is closer to actually answering me. Let me try to put it to you again.
one time i believed in religion, then i turned 11 and got just a little too old for fairy tales. then i turned 16 and saw how fucked up the world is and how little God or Religion has done to better anything, then i turned 17 and converted my own father to atheism on logic and reason alone, not even poking fun at the bible, now i actively bash religion and will argue your faith away or give up if you are too stupid to let go of your delusion.. so umm great video man.
Only true christians are going to heaven people who breath and bleed the true word of God. Not people who sin and and think its ok all they have to do is go to church on Sunday and repent. So to all the so called christians saying I'll prey for all the non belivers prey for yourselves and walk the talk everyday even when your alone and stop being such a hatefilled judgemental group for Gods sake make him proud tho say I am thier father and these are my children.
Only true christians are going to heaven people who breath and bleed the true word of God. Not people who sin and and think its ok all they have to do is go to church on Sunday and repent. So to all the so called christians saying I'll prey for all the non belivers prey for yourselves and walk the talk everyday even when your alone and stop being such a hatefilled judgemental group for Gods sake make him proud tho say I am thier father and these are my children
So you get to start going back up the chain of life all over again. Your first choice will be the plant kingdom or the animal kingdom. After being an amoeba it gets better.
When you finally become a pig again, pray that some one that knows God eats you because every one knows that you are what you eat. By then your spirit will be part of the good within that person to help finally get it right. <]:)}
Common man`s reasons why god does not exist A) total absence from from natural events, No sig of a god before, during or after natural events. B)The total absence of favoritism towards believers. Even church steeples need lightning rods for protection against god.C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept suffering of the guilty, but little children
Everyone misses the real irony here. An atheist actually believes as christians do that there in fact is an after life. Only difference is christians look forward to heaven and atheist get caught in a infinite cycle that ends in the intestines and results in being crapped out, just to start over. I have heard of different theories of hell, but this is new. I guess you atheist have lots to look forward to, enjoy.
@dudev I do know, thats why your crying like a 2 year old. If you can't take a little jab stop posting videos. Atheist can't take there own medicine, thats why you're crying about nothing. Learn to laugh. by by
Look around the comments, there are hundreds of jabs. You're a pathetic amateur. And I am laughing; the video is comedic. You're the one who's crying about having your religion mocked.
@dudev The fact you keep replying is proof enough for me that you are sore. I was having fun, you didn't like it now you're crying. I know i'm right on. So go on crying big boy we both know i'm right. If you really feel the way you say, you wouldn't bother, but thats not the case IS IT!! Now run along or hurry up and call me some names so you feel better than run along.. BY by Jr.
You're delusional. My videos are full of negative comments. All you did was re-state the video. How is that making fun? And you're telling me to "run along" on my own video channel?
@dudev You're the one who's crying about having your religion mocked. Who is crying about there religion being mocked? not me. I hate religion jr, lol you need some new material.
Are you one of them spiritual Jesus freak fucks? Is Jesus in your little heart? Did he reveal himself to you in the bathroom, while you were spanking yourself?
@TheDarwinReport Another brilliant comment from an atheist. Ones inability to articulate a point of view is usually displayed by profanity. It really reveals a low IQ. You should consider that before posting in the future. On the bathroom comment, sounds like you're deflecting? Don't post your vile temptations for the world to see, go see a shrink.
Stop dancing like a little girl. DarwinReport asked you for evidence, too. And again you avoided giving any. You claim the supernatural exists. Is personal experience all you have to offer?
Great video, It deals with the physical body and sounds like something that could happen. Only problem is, christians don't believe there body goes to heaven when they die but rather there soul. The body will be resurrected on the last day. Just thought I would clear that up. By the way you don't want to miss this.
@dudev If I have to explain, than you're not to bright. Because you say I constructed a fantasy it must be true, typical atheist logic. You're a real bright one.
You haven't said anything to explain. You just re-stated what's in the video. And if you have any evidence of your religion, please feel free to present it. If you have the guts to have your beliefs challenged, that is.
@dudev You'er really a bright one, what natural evidence for the supernatural would you suppose I offer? Think about it. Other than my personal experience or the experiences of billions?
@PhalanxPerception Personal experiences with the supernatural are either flat out lies or symptoms of mental illness, e.g., delusions, hallucinations, etc.
@gupsphoo I guess I must be certifiable then. I've got almost 35 years of regular experience with what some people would call the "supernatural". I've never asked anyone to take my word for it. Just to do their own experimentation. Then again, at least I try not to blatantly insult people for not believing what I do.
"blatantly insult people for not believing what I do."
Skeptics like myself aren't insulting people for believing in the supernatural. We're insulting them for not thinking rationally and for not having reasonable standards of evidence. Your personal experiences are worthless to me as evidence. And people have been trying to test the supernatural for centuries --there are no consistent reliable results to show that anything supernatural exists.
@dudev Claiming that someone is delusional is insulting, believe it or not. I understand that certain claims are difficult to test and I would never ask someone to believe based on my word or anyone else's. Just try not to be insulting. Personal experience my not be sufficient evidence for someone else, but if you clearly saw a "Bigfoot" run past you, you might be inclined to believe in "Bigfoot" in spite of the lack of evidence. If someone called you a lunatic, repeatedly, you might be insulted
@dudev (Part 1) Exactly what experiences have I even put forth? When I do, feel free to scrutinize. Just don't be insulting about it. BTW, here's my personal experience. I'm a magician. I've seen physical results over and over again due to spellwork. I see and feel the flow of "Manna" every single day. "Magic" is frustratingly difficult to prove. I've come up with a hypothesis for why this is, and an experiment to provide evidence for it. Unfortunately, it's going to be time consuming.
@dudev (Part 2) The problem lies with observation. The number of observers seems to have a direct affect on results. My experiment relies on documentation PRIOR to observation. Unfortunately, there are other factors involved. "Magic" is not actually an easy process if you want results. It requires genuine need. Desire is not enough. It also relies on "Karma". Another unproven principal. So needless to say, this is going to take some time. However, my point is, not all of us are irrational.
@dudev What I did was tell you my observations. I also told you what I intend to do to PROVIDE evidence. Obviously a discussion with you is pointless. Insults are not a good substitute for conversation or debate. Why don't you go learn some people skills. For the entire 30+ years I've practiced magic, I've taken a scientific viewpoint on the subject. Magic is NOT faith based. It's results based. Rather than insulting people who disagree with you, why don't you do your own experiments? I did.
"I've taken a scientific viewpoint on the subject."
Have you thought of sharing your results with the world? Because if your research is not repeatable or peer reviewed, then it's not science. If the magic spell only works for you under special conditions or it's anecdotal in nature, it can never be science. That would make it personal experience. What you should asking yourself is --How can scientists analyze my work? I know, I know, science is a demanding mistress.
@dudev Dude, did you even read my reply? When I'm able to do the experiment, that's exactly what I intend to do. Magic DOES work only under certain conditions, that fact doesn't make it "not science". I agree anecdotal evidence, is not. Which is why I'm working on the documentation. That's been my whole point all along. I'm working on proving this through science. Meanwhile YOU'RE reciting dogma. While most scientists today would agree with your conclusions, they would prefer my methods.
If those conditions only work for you, or are subjective, then it's not science. That obviously what I meant. The problem is that you're making the claim that magic is real before you have provided the evidence. You don't fit the evidence to the conclusion. And what you call dogma, scientists call reasonable conditions.
@dudev I didn't find it obvious, but if that's what you meant, then fine, I agree. I don't normally make a habit of proclaiming my belief in magic to people who don't already have some experience with it. The only reason I started this conversation was that Gupsphoo said, "Personal experiences with the supernatural are either flat out lies or symptoms of mental illness, e.g., delusions, hallucinations, etc." I found that insulting. Actually, I just realized it wasn't you who had said it.
"Personal experiences with the supernatural are either flat out lies or symptoms of mental illness, e.g., delusions, hallucinations, etc"
Well, I agree with Gupsphoo. You're mighty arrogant to think that you have the evidence for magic, while all the scientists throughout the ages never came upon it. I can only conclude that you have a disdain for science or a conspiratorial view of it.
@dudev Well then your assumptions would be wrong again. I have kept up on science news through various sites, magazines and various peer reviewed journals for quite a few years. Starting back in high-school. I'm far from a conspiracy nut and I respect skepticism. Just not rudeness or reliance on dogma.
In my experience, people with pseudo-scientific claims often make the rudeness accusation in order to avoid having to answer questions. If you think I'm difficult and confrontational, then wait until you defend your claims to hard-core skeptics or real scientists.
The fact that you keep saying "dogma" makes me suspicious. If the only way you can defend your claims is by redefining science, then your claims are probably worthless.
@dudev Science is about inquiry and discovery. All you keep doing is reciting the same insults (Dogma). You refuse to even open your mind to the possibility. I have a lot of friends who are atheists and skeptics. I respect skepticism. Do you watch "The Atheist Experience" out of Austin? Often Matt Dillahunty will address personal experience. He simply says, personal experience may be good evidence for the individual. Just not for anyone else. I don't find THAT insulting in any way.
Science is about standards of evidence and methodology. You can do all the inquiry you want, but if you have no standards, then you may as well make up the results.
I'm open to anything that's supported by good science. And Matt is right. But you keep asking others to believe by repeatedly mentioning your magical experiences.
Like I said, if you have to change science to fit your claims of magic, then your claims are probably worthless.
@dudev I HAVEN'T asked you to believe ANYTHING. I'm simply saying don't be a rude asshole about it. That's the last time I'm going to clarify that to you. I've stated my observations. Believe what you want. If you had simply said, I'm not going to believe you until I see evidence, I would have dropped it. I respect that point of view. It was the implication that I'm either a liar or insane that I took offence at. I haven't tried to change science either. I'm not sure where you're getting that.
You've repeatedly asked me to believe because you keep mentioning your 'experience with magic'. You're mouthing off in the public square. That's asking people to believe. And for your personal anecdotes or untestable observations to be evidence, scientists would have to change what constitutes good science. Finally, I don't think you're a liar or insane. I think you're a credulous self-indulgent airhead.
Sorry, but my people skills don't include humoring people. It's not an insult if I call out someone on their claims. You made a bold assertion about magic, and I don't know of any evidence supporting magic. If you wanted an audience to just nod and agree with you, you came to the wrong place. Science challenges people, it doesn't just accept things as true. Clearly, you think the act of disagreement is an insult.
@dudev Again, I was referring to "Gupsphoo's" comment as being insulting. I have absolutely no problem with anyone who simply says, I've never seen any evidence for it, therefore I don't believe. I wouldn't respect ANYONE who just took my word, or anyone else's word for it. I went into this, at the age of ten with the attitude, that I will try it. If I don't get results, it's obviously not true. Many people do believe it, so I'll start out with an open mind. My results were subtle at first.
You're playing a silly little game, jumping from one side of the fence to the other. On the one hand, you say you're researching magic scientifically, then you say you've been doing magic since you were a child. And only you have this evidence. Sounds like an argument from personal experience --with a worthless IOU note for the evidence.
@dudev You're building straw-man arguments now. I have studied magic since the age of ten. I am now 44. For many of those years, I simply studied what worked and what didn't. For a long time, I had no idea why magic was so difficult to prove, when it was so obvious to me. I recently had an epiphany regarding the connection between observation and the success of magic. Really, I should have seen it a long time ago. This observation gave me the idea for the experiment. I've honest with you.
@dudev What's your point? I was studying the ART of magic. Finding out what worked and what didn't. Learning what others were teaching me and sifting out what I couldn't confirm on my own. My scientific study of magic is different than studying the use of it. You can study the physics of hang-gliding all you like. However to fly one, you'd better study what works before you jump off a cliff.
"Which will be eaten by an Evangelical Christian, who will pray for a cure for food poisoning." *picture of a coffin* I don't wish death to anyone, no matter how deluded they are, but I have to admit, I found that hilarious! :D
hmm I want my molecules to end up in an apple tree in a protected forest, so I can live for ever and help feed the little critters. Or for my molecules to end up in a wheat field so that they could some day be made into ramen noodles. RAMEN!
"I" am not going anywhere. When I die, the metastable data that makes up my consciousness will unravel as the neurons die off. Ah, well. Too bad there's no backup disc for life.
@dudev LOL, good1, but you missed the part where you are crapped out in the form of diarrhea, cleaned up a bit and sent back to the sea where the whole cycle starts again. all i'm saying is, don't be satisfied taking out only one of the sheep, when you could possibly take out 100's of em.
So a complex god just popped into existence all by his little self? Or did his complexity holiness always exist? You really didn't think your argument through, did ya? Not only have I looked at a leaf, I've studied biology. Your cheap appeal to emotion is typical of believers.
"Cool story bro, your gonna be dirt.. That's pretty much all you are right now anyway.. Dirt that us Christians get to walk on and laugh at."
Is that a Christian thing to say? If someone disagreed with Jesus, would he insult them and gloat with pride that he was above them and could walk all over them? If you're not at least supporting the morality behind Christianity, you're just giving blind obedience to a god whose existence you don't question because you're afraid.
your smart know it all ass better hope your right there is no definate evidence either way,but look at revelations and the way the world is today believe by choice anyone that ridicules Christians are empty and nazi's were 25 yrs ahead of us and started our nasa they say they got techknowlegy from demonic channeling laugh if u want but these guys were evil but not silly supersticious idiots
deanrps 1 month ago
@deanrps
"your smart know it all ass better hope your right"
There are more than two choices. There are thousands of religions.
dudev 1 month ago
@dudev I do have a very HIGH IQ :D I can draw a map of every state every country tell you about almost every religon where it origanated I can tell you about almost everything,BUT when it comes to faith in God i don't know I go by my feeling and my personal experiences and I do know every life form is a design and energy does not die it changes forms,A Russian scientist even claims vegitation(trees grass ect:) share a soul athiest just act arrogant and mock believers
deanrps 1 month ago
@deanrps
Well, personal experience is not reliable evidence. And reasonable people --atheists included--require verifiable evidence before they believe in something extraordinary. Also, which god? There are thousands of religions, as I said before. And they contradict one another.
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence" --C. Hitchens.
dudev 1 month ago
@dudev true but im going on my feelings and maybe a little fear instilled in me
deanrps 1 month ago
@deanrps
Fear and feelings, two things that are not on the path to truth.
dudev 1 month ago
@dudev yes but are you sure there is no God and everything we do and every thought & feeling is just a waste and is a meaningless existanse??I like truth too and even thogh I believe i feel like smacking the shit out of these ppl that claim to be a prophet and act like they are some chosen one I love to learn and wonder about life I don't claim to know anything I choose to believe and i don't care if anyone thinks it's foolish
deanrps 1 month ago
@deanrps
I don't claim to know there isn't a god -100%. I'm just sure there's no good evidence for one. I'm 99% sure, and like a good skeptic, I leave the door open for the possibility. If new evidence comes along, I'll look at it.
dudev 1 month ago
I bet if religion never existed we would be so far ahead tech wise. Such a large waste of time.
SergeantBean67 1 month ago
cremation is such a waste of all that remains.... being buried is a far more generous way of leaving nutrition for the rest that will surely follow, in my lowly opinion that is ;)
frackcha 3 months ago
atheists are so clueless.
mrtadreamer 3 months ago
@mrtadreamer
How do we get a clue when religion is all empty faith?
dudev 3 months ago 2
@dudev there needs to be more immediate casual foreplay and sex between men and women. if anything, men should be having casual foreplay and sex with women as quickly as within the first 24 hours that they meet, if not withinb the first 12 hours that they meet.
Steveman27 2 months ago
@Steveman27
non sequitur
dudev 2 months ago
Christians are a curious lot. They apprently spend all their life preparing for the day of their death and their entry into heaven but when the day nears they will fight "tooth and nail" to avoid dying. Maybe deep down inside they really don't have that much faith after all !
oldirishladdie 4 months ago
hahahahahahah made me lol at "then ill be eaten by a conservative christian" bahahahah awesome vid.
roont 5 months ago
there is no such thing as heaven so no body will be going.
trampledone 6 months ago
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myFriends4eva 7 months ago
@myFriends4eva
No, you're going to see when the high-priest Cthulhu comes to judge you for believing in a false god. Cthulhu has no mercy for non-believers.
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myFriends4eva 7 months ago
@myFriends4eva
I was joking. But seriously, there's no good evidence for the existence of any god. So your silly little threat of the rapture is meaningless to me. It just makes you sound gullible and obnoxious.
dudev 7 months ago 13
@myFriends4eva Actually, the Rapture was not even thought up intil 1600 A.D, which was because some guy had some dreams about people flying in the air, and then he guessed(and alot of other people did) when it would happen, they always went outside, spent all their life savings, and waved in the air the entire day, never came, they were upset with the person who predicted it, but in reality, they should only be mad at themselves for being dumb enough to believe it. Peace~<3 =P
smartandstupid37 7 months ago
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myFriends4eva 7 months ago
@myFriends4eva
Then why did you post your original, preachy comment? And thanks for the permission to believe what we want, you condescending twat.
dudev 7 months ago
@myFriends4eva Well, if you force your rapture bs to me, im going to try as hard as i can to show you it is all just a lie =P
smartandstupid37 7 months ago
@myFriends4eva, you poor brainwashed human being.
Alexgoodman2 6 months ago
@Alexgoodman2 and you poor fagot wanting sex money and other greedy substance u shall rot in hell with all your other brothers and sisters ill say this again you believe in what u want i will believe in what i desire so fuck you. and i am brainwashed ur brainwashed by the devil himself and ur just another unwanted soul in this world waiting to burn in the eternal fire of hell so please leave me be
myFriends4eva 6 months ago
@myFriends4eva
Feel that hypocritical Christian love. You're a pathetic and deluded individual who's living in fear of fairy tales. And if anyone questions your belief you threaten them with the story of hell. I really hope you don't breed.
dudev 6 months ago
@dudev same to you bitch
myFriends4eva 6 months ago
@myFriends4eva
"so please leave me be "
No need to whine like a child. If you don't want to get called out on your comments don't leave any. In the real world, adults debate ideas, they don't hide behind the assumed authority of religion.
dudev 6 months ago
@myFriends4eva YEAA ROCK DEVIL HORNS!!!!
CATHOLICS AND CHRISTANS TO THE LIONS!!!
AHHHHH !!!! HELLLLL FOR US ALLLL MUHAHAHAHAA
BURN CHRISTAN BURN HAHAHAH DIIIEIEEEEE!!!
Alexgoodman2 6 months ago
@Alexgoodman2 haha yall are so fucking amusing
myFriends4eva 6 months ago
@myFriends4eva BURN LITLLE MONKEY BUUUURRRNNN IN HEEEELLLLLLLLLL CUT OPEN CHRISTAN
KILL A CHRISTAN I AM RE-CARNATION OF THE OUR LORD SATAN. NOW BOW DOWN AND BUUURRRNNNNNNN. IM GOIN TO KILL JESUS CHRIST AND THIS TIME HE'S NOT GETTING UP.
Alexgoodman2 6 months ago
@Alexgoodman2 haha so u love burning i hope u get ur wish
myFriends4eva 6 months ago
@myFriends4eva
There are thousands of religions; maybe you'll be punished for not believing in the right one. Think about it. You're probably only a Christian because you come from a family of Christians, or because you were born in or lived in a Christian community. Odds are your religion is the wrong one, if there is a god.
dudev 6 months ago
@myFriends4eva DDDDDIIIIIIEEEEEEE LITTLE CHRISTAN BBBBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNN
Alexgoodman2 6 months ago
@Alexgoodman2 i thought u didnt believe in hell stupid bitch burn with all of ur brothers and sisters
myFriends4eva 6 months ago
@myFriends4eva
Don't judge everyone by your twisted view of life. You're projecting your own sinful nature on to others. Your religious beliefs may keep you from being an immoral asshole, but there are many decent people in this world who don't need fear and fairy tales to lead them by the nose. They actually think about the consequences of their own actions --they're not mindless Christian drones. And if you're just going to repeat yourself in the comments, piss off.
dudev 6 months ago 2
@myFriends4eva there is no such thing as satans hell.. there is only MMMYYYY HHHEEEELLLLLL AND YOU WILL BURN IN IT FOR EVA YOU FOOL MUHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Alexgoodman2 6 months ago
Funny! Though thought-provoking! still, the energy that a person was transforms into something; because energy is not created or destroyed.
martinbeco 7 months ago
@martinbeco What energy? All energy I have is chemical energy. My consciousness is not some special type of energy that will keep on living in some form. My brain is my consciousness and it runs on glucose. In a remote way like car runs with petrol. Both need fuel in some form but that energy doesnt transform into something else.
Asured 7 months ago
@Asured So what's the use? Don't worry and live the way you like! I don't really know what happens when you die anyway. All I know is I shouldn't worry because all life ends. And, either way I don't pay much attention to anyone who tells how I should live as long as I respect the current law; and even that is questionable.
martinbeco 7 months ago
@martinbeco I'm sorry as my post ended up more aggressive than it should have. Numerous times I've encountered that kind of "energy" talk and I just don't understand it. Finally I bursted and you just happened to be the target. But I agree, we might never know what happens when we die so let's just be happy without worries about it.
Asured 7 months ago
@Asured No harm done! None offense taken! Peace! I love thinking and reasoning. Anyone who makes me think has my attention.
martinbeco 7 months ago
Other than the song, What a lame video.
We all have a good idea where our body goes after we die, cremated or not.
Rather than having some atheist statement you just reaffirm the Bible stating our bodies return to dust.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
Yeah, but I didn't include a supernatural fairytale like the soul. And that's kind of the point of the video, dumbass.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev Your soul isn't a supernatural fairytale. It's simply "you" (individual) & the breath within you.
After someone dies, people generally refer to him or her as "the body of". It's simple observation that the body remains, but who that person was, doesn't. .
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But if you consider yourself without a soul than really you're just as dead during life as your body will be after you breathe your last.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev I wasn't talking about evidence or lack thereof.
I simply responded cause it seems you're ignorant of the basic concept & definition of what a soul is.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
So, you're arrogantly attempting to define something that has no fixed definition? Religious people can't even provide a consistent definition of god, let alone the soul. And spare me the standard religious talking points.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev You can watch a secular news broadcast or read a secular newspaper and if there's a tragedy like a plane crash & 50 people die (for example), they may well phrase it as, "50 souls perished (or were lost).
I'm not being arrogant. It's a pretty well used term inside and outside of religion. Even in the 21st century.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
Thanks for your pointless comments.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev
Wow, awesome reply.
Apparently......... atheism = ignorance is bliss?
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
Yes, we all know the word "soul" is sometimes used in a poetic sense. So what? Is that evidence for the soul's existence. The answer is no. Christianity specifically refers to an everlasting soul, which is a supernatural thing. So quit waffling and try to make a point. Reasonable people want evidence, not religious double-talk.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev Oh so now you can define it. I think you're the one who's being arrogant. It's used generally a bit more than just poetically.
I haven't really said anything religious, so I don't see how double talk comes in (unless that's your pat response?). I've made points & am waiting for a good response.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@dudev Christianity does refer to an everlasting/eternal soul. But it's really not a supernatural thing, rather an answer for mortal humans, which is what we are. It's a valid topic.
I might not believe in an afterlife if I didn't think I could influence people after I die. But I know I can. Who I am (my soul) can continue after I die in this physical world. Living on after we die is really a part of human nature. Whether leaving our mark on this world or simply having offspring.
Evidence for.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
"But it's really not a supernatural thing, rather an answer for mortal humans"
Tell that to the Christian churches that preach otherwise.
And your definition of a soul is unconventional and odd.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev My definition of a soul is in any dictionary.
You can't even address what I've said. DUMBASS
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
Dictionaries don't define words, they only give the common usage. I can find "unicorn" in the dictionary, too.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev i gave you evidence for an afterlife.
Give me evidence against.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
No, you pointed to people having memories of the dead as evidence of an afterlife, which it isn't. And the burden of proof isn't on me; it's on those claiming there is an afterlife.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev How can I have memories of people who lived & died before I was born? What I'm pointing to is the simple reality that we're born into a world continually influenced by people who have long since died. Many we can directly name & many (the majority) we cannot name, but regardless still influence the fabric of human society.
As far as burden of proof, you made this video (not me) basically claiming no afterlife, so proving it is on you.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
"As far as burden of proof, you made this video (not me) basically claiming no afterlife, so proving it is on you."
I'm not making a new claim, I'm just dismissing one that religious people have already made without a shred of evidence to back it up. You twisting it around and placing the burden on me is like a sleazy car salesman telling a potential buyer that they have to prove the car runs. Sorry, but that's childish logic, and it's typical of believers.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev I didn't say you were making a new claim. But still you produced this video not me, so in essence you're the car salesman. Why should I buy into your video?
It's no suprise however that you reply to that rather than the point I was making.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
You haven't made a coherent point. You're rambling on about memories of dead people. My memories of my dead grandfather are in my head and from my perspective. He's dead and has no afterlife as far as he's concerned, and as far as the evidence goes.
And as some atheists say--"We're not selling anything new, we just not buying what you're selling." Since there's no evidence for an afterlife, the burden is always on those who claim there is one. Atheism has the default position.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev I haven't said anything about memories of a dead person. I'm talking about how a person can still have influence after they have died. In some cases a person has more influence after they've passed than they did during their life. I'm sharing simple observations that you are just avoiding.
As far as atheism goes, there no grand rule that an atheist has to reject the concept or expectation of an afterlife. Atheism isn't the default position. It's just simply your personal opinion.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
None of what you're talking about is an afterlife in the generally used sense of the word. It's merely the influence of past events on the present or future. And it has nothing to do the world's religions which preach an eternal afterlife of a disembodied soul --a supernatural entity.
"no grand rule that an atheist reject...an afterlife"
DUH! But atheists try to be good skeptics, and no reliable evidence for an afterlife exists. That's not opinion.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev At this point humans cannot observe whether we (our individual self) continues after we die. We simply lack the ability. However we can observe that an individual can continue to influence after they die. Not events, but who that person was in life & what they expressed or contributed. And right that's not generally used in the sense of the word "afterlife", but we can observe it & in doimg so that should lend itself more in favor that an after life is more possible than not.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
cont..... And the example I'm using is just one of a few I could discuss. But it's a big one.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
Your limited point has nothing at all to do with my video, which addresses the "afterlife" purely in the supernatural and religious sense of the word. So I don't understand why you even bothered commenting in the first place.
And your example has nothing to do with an individual's mental or "spiritual" existence. The fact that influential events continue after a person dies is not life. You're reaching like a drunken poet. Or song writer.. cough, cough.
dudev 8 months ago
@dudev Most human cultures through history have their own concepts of an afterlife. And though it is tied to religion, it's also a philosophical topic & as I stated before a valid topic considering we're all mortal.
But i'll agree that your video (as well it seems, your view in general) are of very limited and narrow parameters on the subject. Better that I present my ideas to someone who allows themselves to think outside of the box rather than placing themselves in one.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
"I haven't said anything about memories of a dead person."
"How can I have memories of people who lived & died before I was born?"
Try being coherent and consistent, and get to the point. Are you talking about past events influencing the future, or "past lives", or "reincarnation", or what?
dudev 8 months ago
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@dudev "Are you talking about past events influencing the future, or "past lives", or "reincarnation", or what?"
I'm kinda amazed that you still aren't comprehending what I've been trying to express. Not sure if you're just wrapped up in wanting to stereotype me first rather than get what I'm saying. But your previous reply is closer to actually answering me. Let me try to put it to you again.
KapaMan00 8 months ago
@KapaMan00
And to say someone is ignorant of religious practices, which are solely based in fiction and faith, is the height of irony.
dudev 8 months ago
one time i believed in religion, then i turned 11 and got just a little too old for fairy tales. then i turned 16 and saw how fucked up the world is and how little God or Religion has done to better anything, then i turned 17 and converted my own father to atheism on logic and reason alone, not even poking fun at the bible, now i actively bash religion and will argue your faith away or give up if you are too stupid to let go of your delusion.. so umm great video man.
AcephalousPoultry 8 months ago
yep yo ass is going to hell
myFriends4eva 8 months ago
@myFriends4eva
First prove there's a hell.
dudev 8 months ago
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Only true christians are going to heaven people who breath and bleed the true word of God. Not people who sin and and think its ok all they have to do is go to church on Sunday and repent. So to all the so called christians saying I'll prey for all the non belivers prey for yourselves and walk the talk everyday even when your alone and stop being such a hatefilled judgemental group for Gods sake make him proud tho say I am thier father and these are my children.
beautysunlilly 9 months ago
Only true christians are going to heaven people who breath and bleed the true word of God. Not people who sin and and think its ok all they have to do is go to church on Sunday and repent. So to all the so called christians saying I'll prey for all the non belivers prey for yourselves and walk the talk everyday even when your alone and stop being such a hatefilled judgemental group for Gods sake make him proud tho say I am thier father and these are my children
beautysunlilly 9 months ago
@beautysunlilly
Blah, blah, blah. It's all empty faith. Sorry, but reasonable people need more than ancient stories to be convinced.
dudev 9 months ago
Nobody goes to Heaven when they die. Believers will go there at the resurrection. Read your Bible.
Cotronixco 10 months ago
@Cotronixco
No one goes to fictional places. The bible is fiction.
dudev 10 months ago
@dudev You have not been chosen to believe. If He chooses you, you will begin to learn.
Cotronixco 10 months ago
@Cotronixco
Thanks for the religious double-talk. Go peddle it somewhere else.
dudev 10 months ago
@Cotronixco
Thanks for the religious double-talk. Go peddle it somewhere else.
dudev 10 months ago
@Cotronixco God, "I don't want them all so I'll pick and choose for myself." Please tell this to the Christians who keep trying to save me!
jerrygreg2 8 months ago
People who are scared ot death buy the book they want so dearly to believe in..
but
It is still believing, hoping, praying..
life is short so ENJOY
racenemo 11 months ago
So you get to start going back up the chain of life all over again. Your first choice will be the plant kingdom or the animal kingdom. After being an amoeba it gets better.
When you finally become a pig again, pray that some one that knows God eats you because every one knows that you are what you eat. By then your spirit will be part of the good within that person to help finally get it right. <]:)}
variezn34gm 1 year ago
no one can go to a place that doesn't exist
skippydeenice 1 year ago
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Common man`s reasons why god does not exist A) total absence from from natural events, No sig of a god before, during or after natural events. B)The total absence of favoritism towards believers. Even church steeples need lightning rods for protection against god.C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. D) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept suffering of the guilty, but little children
lizazoon 1 year ago
Atheists Don't Go To Heaven
oh thank god :P
KINGofkings49er 1 year ago
The crab was an asshole, props to the fish for setting him right then helping you give the Christian food poisening. ;D
Petrivolve 1 year ago
This is what I want when I die...................much better than ending up in a 2nd rate themepark.
la2111 1 year ago
That was a great vid. But do worms eat ash?
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
They eat dirt, which contains ash.
dudev 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
You're the one claiming it's existence.
dudev 1 year ago
Everyone misses the real irony here. An atheist actually believes as christians do that there in fact is an after life. Only difference is christians look forward to heaven and atheist get caught in a infinite cycle that ends in the intestines and results in being crapped out, just to start over. I have heard of different theories of hell, but this is new. I guess you atheist have lots to look forward to, enjoy.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
"I guess you atheist have lots to look forward to, enjoy."
Is every believer a literalistic fool?
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev LOL, you can be sarcastic, but a christian can't? fool.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
You shouldn't play with sarcasm unless you know how to use it.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev I do know, thats why your crying like a 2 year old. If you can't take a little jab stop posting videos. Atheist can't take there own medicine, thats why you're crying about nothing. Learn to laugh. by by
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
Look around the comments, there are hundreds of jabs. You're a pathetic amateur. And I am laughing; the video is comedic. You're the one who's crying about having your religion mocked.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev The fact you keep replying is proof enough for me that you are sore. I was having fun, you didn't like it now you're crying. I know i'm right on. So go on crying big boy we both know i'm right. If you really feel the way you say, you wouldn't bother, but thats not the case IS IT!! Now run along or hurry up and call me some names so you feel better than run along.. BY by Jr.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
"I was having fun, you didn't like it"
You're delusional. My videos are full of negative comments. All you did was re-state the video. How is that making fun? And you're telling me to "run along" on my own video channel?
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev That really hurts, lol. Is that your best? You can do better, I just know it.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
You haven't said anything for me to rebut.
dudev 1 year ago
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@dudev You haven't said anything for me to rebut. I'm talking about your childish comment on my profile page, that I don't even use by the way. lol
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@dudev You're the one who's crying about having your religion mocked. Who is crying about there religion being mocked? not me. I hate religion jr, lol you need some new material.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
You smell like a sock account, like some fool I previously blocked.
dudev 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
You had a dozen opportunities to say something of substance. You're just a troll.
dudev 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
Are you one of them spiritual Jesus freak fucks? Is Jesus in your little heart? Did he reveal himself to you in the bathroom, while you were spanking yourself?
TheDarwinReport 1 year ago
@TheDarwinReport Another brilliant comment from an atheist. Ones inability to articulate a point of view is usually displayed by profanity. It really reveals a low IQ. You should consider that before posting in the future. On the bathroom comment, sounds like you're deflecting? Don't post your vile temptations for the world to see, go see a shrink.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
Stop dancing like a little girl. DarwinReport asked you for evidence, too. And again you avoided giving any. You claim the supernatural exists. Is personal experience all you have to offer?
dudev 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception Sounds more like a form of reincarnation than "Hell". Unless of course you were aware of what was going on, the whole time.
seeqer66 1 year ago
Great video, It deals with the physical body and sounds like something that could happen. Only problem is, christians don't believe there body goes to heaven when they die but rather there soul. The body will be resurrected on the last day. Just thought I would clear that up. By the way you don't want to miss this.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
"christians don't believe there body goes to heaven when they die"
Duh you think so?
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev Just making fun of you, sorry that escapes you.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
I bet you think knock-knock jokes are highbrow.
dudev 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
How is re-stating the video, making fun of me? And FYI, we all get crapped out in the end. You've just constructed a fantasy to avoid the truth.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev If I have to explain, than you're not to bright. Because you say I constructed a fantasy it must be true, typical atheist logic. You're a real bright one.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
You haven't said anything to explain. You just re-stated what's in the video. And if you have any evidence of your religion, please feel free to present it. If you have the guts to have your beliefs challenged, that is.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev You'er really a bright one, what natural evidence for the supernatural would you suppose I offer? Think about it. Other than my personal experience or the experiences of billions?
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception
Someone else's personal experience isn't worth anything to me.
dudev 1 year ago
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@dudev Someone else's personal experience isn't worth anything to me. Hay, genius, than don't ask dumb questions.
PhalanxPerception 1 year ago
@PhalanxPerception Personal experiences with the supernatural are either flat out lies or symptoms of mental illness, e.g., delusions, hallucinations, etc.
gupsphoo 1 year ago
@gupsphoo I guess I must be certifiable then. I've got almost 35 years of regular experience with what some people would call the "supernatural". I've never asked anyone to take my word for it. Just to do their own experimentation. Then again, at least I try not to blatantly insult people for not believing what I do.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"blatantly insult people for not believing what I do."
Skeptics like myself aren't insulting people for believing in the supernatural. We're insulting them for not thinking rationally and for not having reasonable standards of evidence. Your personal experiences are worthless to me as evidence. And people have been trying to test the supernatural for centuries --there are no consistent reliable results to show that anything supernatural exists.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev Claiming that someone is delusional is insulting, believe it or not. I understand that certain claims are difficult to test and I would never ask someone to believe based on my word or anyone else's. Just try not to be insulting. Personal experience my not be sufficient evidence for someone else, but if you clearly saw a "Bigfoot" run past you, you might be inclined to believe in "Bigfoot" in spite of the lack of evidence. If someone called you a lunatic, repeatedly, you might be insulted
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"I've never asked anyone to take my word for it."
By mentioning your personal experience, you are asking people to take your word for it. And you're inviting them to scrutinize.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev (Part 1) Exactly what experiences have I even put forth? When I do, feel free to scrutinize. Just don't be insulting about it. BTW, here's my personal experience. I'm a magician. I've seen physical results over and over again due to spellwork. I see and feel the flow of "Manna" every single day. "Magic" is frustratingly difficult to prove. I've come up with a hypothesis for why this is, and an experiment to provide evidence for it. Unfortunately, it's going to be time consuming.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"I see and feel the flow of "Manna" every single day"
Prove it. If you can't, I don't want to hear about it.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev Again, working on it.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@dudev (Part 2) The problem lies with observation. The number of observers seems to have a direct affect on results. My experiment relies on documentation PRIOR to observation. Unfortunately, there are other factors involved. "Magic" is not actually an easy process if you want results. It requires genuine need. Desire is not enough. It also relies on "Karma". Another unproven principal. So needless to say, this is going to take some time. However, my point is, not all of us are irrational.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"However, my point is, not all of us are irrational."
I think you just demonstrated that you are irrational. You made several claims without any evidence.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev What I did was tell you my observations. I also told you what I intend to do to PROVIDE evidence. Obviously a discussion with you is pointless. Insults are not a good substitute for conversation or debate. Why don't you go learn some people skills. For the entire 30+ years I've practiced magic, I've taken a scientific viewpoint on the subject. Magic is NOT faith based. It's results based. Rather than insulting people who disagree with you, why don't you do your own experiments? I did.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"I've taken a scientific viewpoint on the subject."
Have you thought of sharing your results with the world? Because if your research is not repeatable or peer reviewed, then it's not science. If the magic spell only works for you under special conditions or it's anecdotal in nature, it can never be science. That would make it personal experience. What you should asking yourself is --How can scientists analyze my work? I know, I know, science is a demanding mistress.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev Dude, did you even read my reply? When I'm able to do the experiment, that's exactly what I intend to do. Magic DOES work only under certain conditions, that fact doesn't make it "not science". I agree anecdotal evidence, is not. Which is why I'm working on the documentation. That's been my whole point all along. I'm working on proving this through science. Meanwhile YOU'RE reciting dogma. While most scientists today would agree with your conclusions, they would prefer my methods.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
If those conditions only work for you, or are subjective, then it's not science. That obviously what I meant. The problem is that you're making the claim that magic is real before you have provided the evidence. You don't fit the evidence to the conclusion. And what you call dogma, scientists call reasonable conditions.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev I didn't find it obvious, but if that's what you meant, then fine, I agree. I don't normally make a habit of proclaiming my belief in magic to people who don't already have some experience with it. The only reason I started this conversation was that Gupsphoo said, "Personal experiences with the supernatural are either flat out lies or symptoms of mental illness, e.g., delusions, hallucinations, etc." I found that insulting. Actually, I just realized it wasn't you who had said it.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"Personal experiences with the supernatural are either flat out lies or symptoms of mental illness, e.g., delusions, hallucinations, etc"
Well, I agree with Gupsphoo. You're mighty arrogant to think that you have the evidence for magic, while all the scientists throughout the ages never came upon it. I can only conclude that you have a disdain for science or a conspiratorial view of it.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev Well then your assumptions would be wrong again. I have kept up on science news through various sites, magazines and various peer reviewed journals for quite a few years. Starting back in high-school. I'm far from a conspiracy nut and I respect skepticism. Just not rudeness or reliance on dogma.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"Just not rudeness or reliance on dogma."
In my experience, people with pseudo-scientific claims often make the rudeness accusation in order to avoid having to answer questions. If you think I'm difficult and confrontational, then wait until you defend your claims to hard-core skeptics or real scientists.
The fact that you keep saying "dogma" makes me suspicious. If the only way you can defend your claims is by redefining science, then your claims are probably worthless.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev Science is about inquiry and discovery. All you keep doing is reciting the same insults (Dogma). You refuse to even open your mind to the possibility. I have a lot of friends who are atheists and skeptics. I respect skepticism. Do you watch "The Atheist Experience" out of Austin? Often Matt Dillahunty will address personal experience. He simply says, personal experience may be good evidence for the individual. Just not for anyone else. I don't find THAT insulting in any way.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"You refuse to even open your mind..."
Science is about standards of evidence and methodology. You can do all the inquiry you want, but if you have no standards, then you may as well make up the results.
I'm open to anything that's supported by good science. And Matt is right. But you keep asking others to believe by repeatedly mentioning your magical experiences.
Like I said, if you have to change science to fit your claims of magic, then your claims are probably worthless.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev I HAVEN'T asked you to believe ANYTHING. I'm simply saying don't be a rude asshole about it. That's the last time I'm going to clarify that to you. I've stated my observations. Believe what you want. If you had simply said, I'm not going to believe you until I see evidence, I would have dropped it. I respect that point of view. It was the implication that I'm either a liar or insane that I took offence at. I haven't tried to change science either. I'm not sure where you're getting that.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"I HAVEN'T asked you to believe ANYTHING."
You've repeatedly asked me to believe because you keep mentioning your 'experience with magic'. You're mouthing off in the public square. That's asking people to believe. And for your personal anecdotes or untestable observations to be evidence, scientists would have to change what constitutes good science. Finally, I don't think you're a liar or insane. I think you're a credulous self-indulgent airhead.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev ew shut up pleaze, ur dirty mouth just soiled my brain!
TheCitrustango 1 year ago
@TheCitrustango
It's always the pissers with no videos who have the biggest mouths. You're just a whiny little troll with nothing of substance to say.
dudev 1 year ago
@seeqer66 RIGHT ON!! SOMEONE HERE NOT INSANE> FINALLY
TheCitrustango 1 year ago
@seeqer66
Sorry, but my people skills don't include humoring people. It's not an insult if I call out someone on their claims. You made a bold assertion about magic, and I don't know of any evidence supporting magic. If you wanted an audience to just nod and agree with you, you came to the wrong place. Science challenges people, it doesn't just accept things as true. Clearly, you think the act of disagreement is an insult.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev Again, I was referring to "Gupsphoo's" comment as being insulting. I have absolutely no problem with anyone who simply says, I've never seen any evidence for it, therefore I don't believe. I wouldn't respect ANYONE who just took my word, or anyone else's word for it. I went into this, at the age of ten with the attitude, that I will try it. If I don't get results, it's obviously not true. Many people do believe it, so I'll start out with an open mind. My results were subtle at first.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
"My results were subtle at first."
You're playing a silly little game, jumping from one side of the fence to the other. On the one hand, you say you're researching magic scientifically, then you say you've been doing magic since you were a child. And only you have this evidence. Sounds like an argument from personal experience --with a worthless IOU note for the evidence.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev You're building straw-man arguments now. I have studied magic since the age of ten. I am now 44. For many of those years, I simply studied what worked and what didn't. For a long time, I had no idea why magic was so difficult to prove, when it was so obvious to me. I recently had an epiphany regarding the connection between observation and the success of magic. Really, I should have seen it a long time ago. This observation gave me the idea for the experiment. I've honest with you.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66
The operative words there being "I have studied magic since the age of ten". You have studied. No one else has confirmed or repeated your studies.
dudev 1 year ago
@dudev What's your point? I was studying the ART of magic. Finding out what worked and what didn't. Learning what others were teaching me and sifting out what I couldn't confirm on my own. My scientific study of magic is different than studying the use of it. You can study the physics of hang-gliding all you like. However to fly one, you'd better study what works before you jump off a cliff.
seeqer66 1 year ago
Hahahaha! This made me one happy Atheist.
"Which will be eaten by an Evangelical Christian, who will pray for a cure for food poisoning." *picture of a coffin* I don't wish death to anyone, no matter how deluded they are, but I have to admit, I found that hilarious! :D
oathkeeper27 1 year ago
Hell of a good video! I am subscribing you!
Zoric150 1 year ago
You have all this planned out to a scary specific degree :p
amandarandom89 1 year ago
At least we atheists accepted the truth, that religion is just an overcomplicated way of saying i'm afraid to die
ChaosMaster7 1 year ago
hmm I want my molecules to end up in an apple tree in a protected forest, so I can live for ever and help feed the little critters. Or for my molecules to end up in a wheat field so that they could some day be made into ramen noodles. RAMEN!
RavenBlaze 1 year ago
"I" am not going anywhere. When I die, the metastable data that makes up my consciousness will unravel as the neurons die off. Ah, well. Too bad there's no backup disc for life.
RyuDarragh 1 year ago
Hehe, cute. Keep up the lack of faith! XD
TriCorce 1 year ago
Athiests don't go to heaven? Big deal! Christians don't go to Valhalla!
wendighoul 1 year ago
YOUR ALL GOING TO FUCKIN HELL GOD DAMMIT!!!
MERCURHILLMANIAC 1 year ago
@MERCURHILLMANIAC
Again, I need proof to believe such nonsense. You don't have any. So piss off.
dudev 1 year ago 7
@dudev LOL, good1, but you missed the part where you are crapped out in the form of diarrhea, cleaned up a bit and sent back to the sea where the whole cycle starts again. all i'm saying is, don't be satisfied taking out only one of the sheep, when you could possibly take out 100's of em.
peace, lardo.
lardo444 1 year ago
@dudev have u looked at a leaf? i guess an explosion made every single line and detail in that leaf... hmmmm.... one SMART BOOM
TheCitrustango 1 year ago
@TheCitrustango
So a complex god just popped into existence all by his little self? Or did his complexity holiness always exist? You really didn't think your argument through, did ya? Not only have I looked at a leaf, I've studied biology. Your cheap appeal to emotion is typical of believers.
dudev 1 year ago
@MERCURHILLMANIAC see ya there!
RavenBlaze 1 year ago
"Cool story bro, your gonna be dirt.. That's pretty much all you are right now anyway.. Dirt that us Christians get to walk on and laugh at."
Is that a Christian thing to say? If someone disagreed with Jesus, would he insult them and gloat with pride that he was above them and could walk all over them? If you're not at least supporting the morality behind Christianity, you're just giving blind obedience to a god whose existence you don't question because you're afraid.
PhelanVelvel 1 year ago
1:29. you are going to hell you fooking douche for making me really hungry!!
kevin080592 1 year ago
You've pretty much owned every sing