On December 24,2006 at 8 o'clock in the morning, a young 14 year old boy by the name of Scott Jackson was found dead.Doctors couldn't come up with the cause of his death.His mother checked his emails to see if she could figure out what happened.Turns out he was still signed into myspace.She found he had gone to sleep after he read and didn't repost a chain letter.if you don't repost this to 6 videos a girl with no face will kill you tonight. sorry don't wanna die
stats fuckattack? nl shortstops-the riot 2nd best obp(.390)behind furcal(.448)-check your shit-the riot on base enough?the riot tied 2nd bb w/ reyes(nym) behind ramirez(fla) 52-46 the riot 4th in h nl ss the riot gs-95 gp-99 13 game hit strk til week ago on base 43 of 46 games the riot's ave right now .317 as high as .326+ fielding @ .972 hardworking evryday guy with numbers yeah it sux. get ur shit straight THE RIOT IS ON!!!
he also has been caught stealing more so than jose reyes, or willy taveras, and has less than 1/3 the number of steals. hes less than 50% which brings his OBP down to 368.or lower
hah the mack attack.. your saying he has no arm your full of shit. hah. just from that i doubt your a cubs fan meaning you probaly dont watch all of there games so stfu.
-Leading all players in MLB in times caught stealing. He has 15 Stolen bases, 9 CS for a 60% stealing percentage. Terrible.
-He is second for most errors for a shortstop in MLB (11) And all those errors don't take into account his terribly weak arm and poor choices or throws he consistently makes.
-He is ranked 150 of 160 players in terms of Slugging percentage.He is one of the 10 least powerful players in baseball.
you are wrong grim gardner i theriot is a decent player. He is not great i will say but he is decent. Theriot is getting better if u look at this years stats hes already got 13 steals. his average is near 300 as well. I wll say he has little power and a weak arm though
do you people know what role players are? thats what theriot is, he does the little things. wait, he gets on base terribly? is there such a thing? if you get on base, you get on base- any way possible. david eckstein world series mvp? didnt hit for power, both him and theriot hustle, do the little things, such as move a man over and get on base, they dont stikeout much and play good defense, role players are how teams win... i hate to say it but look at how the white sox won it all
Theriot plays BAD DEFENSE! Come on now. Weak arm and no range.
He has an avg of .266. An OBP of .326, both of those are VERY below average for shortstops. He can't take a walk. Weird how you said he was good at it, but it's OK, you obviously don't know anything, anyhow. I don't care how you think he plays.
He hits very badly in the clutch, so when it matters, he tends to fail.
Eckstein got on base well for his team, Theriot doesn't.Stop being ignorant.
wrong,especially with that last sentence-you must not be an athlete. skill only gets you so far. without hustle, skill is fruitless.
ok a 266 ave looks bad, but it really isnt too bad for having played 150 games. he cant take a walk? well his walk total was good enought for 3rd on the team.
he only struck out 50 times! had nearly 30 stolen bases. a fielding percentage of .980, committing only 8 errors which was least among starting shortstops who played as many games as he did. bad defense!?
Yes, and showing that you used "Fielding Percentage" just shows how little you know. IF a player stands still, and only gets balls that roll to him, his fielding percentage is 1000%. It's a very dumb stat. There are LEGITIMATE stats such as Range factor and Rate2, which factor how much RANGE a player has, and arm strength. He is rated 22nd of 28 competing shortstops.
A .326 OBP (Which is the result of walks) is very very poor. The avg. OBP for shortstops was .350.
as for all those stats you listed. they're actually good for a first year starter (he's not a power guy so dont expect him to hit hr's).
he's 28, he's only 28, and you know the height and peak of his career is in the next 5 years. if you don't believe me, look why the cubs signed fukudome, he's 30. he doesnt strike out much, he stays healthy, he does all the little things that arent included in the stats that you can only appreciate if you watch the games.
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Yes, that's DEFINTELY what you want as a player. To be an average minor leaguer, and get to the pros at 28 years old. Fukudome is an amazing fielder who will be in the running for Gold gloves while hitting MANY doubles and 15ish homers, Theriot is a sub-par fielder. Fukudome also walks a LOT, Theriot's .326 OBP shows you that he doesn't walk.
Do not compare Fukudome to Theriot. Fukudome has been good his entire career, Theriot has been an average minor leaguer and a very poor Major leaguer.
Those numbers might be good a for a 22-23 year old call-up player,not a 28 year old.Theriot has absolutely no potential to be good.He has never had good plate discipline at any level
(THAT DOESN'T CHANGE WHEN YOU'RE ALMOST 30!). He has never been an above average fielder, and last year was in the bottom 5 of all shortstops defensively.On top of that,it's dificult to find more than 3 shortstops who hit worse than him.He's good for nothing, and the fact that you LIKE him shows how little you know.
hey dumbass he is batting 310 he is sparkplug and he is making millions and playing for a championship contending team and what are you doing. So Shutt
wrong again, theres rags to riches stories all over the league with players improving once they get into the biggs, ryne sandberg hit .247 in 138 games at single A level-hello 2005 hall of famer. basically who cares about minor league stats, and why are you bringing that up?
look for all of his stats to increase. listen, if the cubs wanted defense they wouldnt have traded away caesar izturis, ryan theriot gets the job done. range to range stat is bullshit, he only committed 8 errors, come on now. he's a role, spark plug player fit perfectly in this lineup both offensively and defensively. thats how the yanks won it with, guys like scott brocious, chuck knoblauch, and paul o neil, stop looking at stats -stats are overrated, actually watch cubs games, damn.
Yes, and unless you watch every single minute of every single game, you don't know the story. And yes stats DO tell the whole story. The stat that says "He hits very poorly when runners on base, when trailing, and late in the game" is a fact. Spark plug is not a stat, and the fact that he gets on base at a terrible % is a fact.
Also, if you weren't completely ignorant, you would know he played about half the year at short, the rest was spread out. Fielding % is a very poor stat, wise up.
A very few stats are overrated, but when a guy hits for a bad average, has a very bad on base percentage, is an awful hitter with the game on the line, it can be proven.How does that "fit into a lineup"?He doesn't have to range to get to balls that AVERAGE shortstops can get to, to go along with his weak throwing arm.You are a flawed viewer, stats are not flawed.A "spark-plug" would be a guy who gets on base very well, hits for a solid average, and can work a count(He does None of those things).
Seriously man, he was statistically one of the worst overall hitters in baseball.He hits a poor batting average, and cannot take pitches/work a count or walk.He hits very badly with runners on base and late in the game(Not Clutch). He was well below average defensively. He is not some 24 year old rookie here. He's 28 years old,who has shown NO SIGNS of ever being good(Which is why I brought up the minors numbers)and in an entire pro year,was bad at literally everything that matters in baseball.
do you people know what role players are? thats what theriot is, he does the little things. wait, he gets on base terribly? is there such a thing? if you get on base, you get on base- any way possible. david eckstein world series mvp? didnt hit for power, both him and theriot hustle, do the little things, such as move a man over and get on base, they dont stikeout much and play good defense, role players are how teams win... i hate to say it but look at how the white sox won it all
Theriot does not get on base often, he gets on base at a very low rate.David Eckstein got on base at a VERY HIGH rate.Eckstein also hit for a high average. Theriot hits for a very low average.
Theriot has no power or any kind, can't hit for average, takes very few walks, can't work a count. He also hits very poorly when it matters (With runners in scoring position, and late in the game). He plays bad defense as well.
ha ha ha i noticed that right after i posted it... my bad... but anyways i don't see theriot playing over derosa... but theriot will still see game time.
either way the cubs need to hold on to him... he is goin to develope into a great player
I'm sorry, but you are one of the fans who see him make a "flashy play" or steal a base, and you think he's good. He can't hit or field, Period. If you knew stats, you would know this. He's hasnt been a good player since college, and in his minor league time, he's been average to below average.
If he was good in the pros last year, or even AVERAGE, then MAYBE he could be good, but since he was the second worst SS in baseball last year, I don't know what you like about him. Bad, bad player.
hes amazing and so nice! i got to meet him twice at the cubs convention this year and he was so nice! also one day after a game his kid was running around the field and hes like little and hes so cute!
ohh really; you are so lucky . when you meet him what did you ask him ? what did he say? how was he nice?. ohh yeah i saw that game. Houston (his son) was wearing a theriot shirt he looked so cute.
yeahh that game! well its kinda hard to talk to them cuz sometimes the people are rushing you so at the signing part when i got the baseball signed we just said hi. but then at the photo boot we said hi (again, lol) and how are you and stuff, but he was so cute with the little kids.
why waz he so cute with the little kisd? omg i love theriot. im trying to make another theriot video but im waiting for more picture of ryan theriot in the 08 season.
well he was nice to everyone. but little kids seem to have a charm on everyone. there so cute! but yeah he is so nice to everyone. yeah make another video i like this one. can you make one of geovany soto? or derek lee? or alfonso soriano? or jaque jones?(did they trade him i forgot i heard they did though). or.......idk lol
yeah sure ill make another one of ryan theriot and well well which one you think would be a better video with d-lee,soriano,soto or jones? and unfortunately they did trade jacque jones.
sorry jobroluver353 is my other one i didnt relize i logged on it. lol. umm but yeah soto. and i cant think f a song right now. can you do like an hip hoppy upbeat song though?
yeahh that game! well its kinda hard to talk to them cuz sometimes the people are rushing you so at the signing part when i got the baseball signed we just said hi. but then at the photo boot we said hi (again, lol) and how are you and stuff, but he was so cute with the little kids.
yeahh that game! well its kinda hard to talk to them cuz sometimes the people are rushing you so at the signing part when i got the baseball signed we just said hi. but then at the photo boot we said hi (again, lol) and how are you and stuff, but he was so cute with the little kids.
yeahh that game! well its kinda hard to talk to them cuz sometimes the people are rushing you so at the signing part when i got the baseball signed we just said hi. but then at the photo boot we said hi (again, lol) and how are you and stuff, but he was so cute with the little kids.
it's really "amazing" ;-) how you know this about theriot but the truth is that even if you write us a 100 pgs on how ryan "suck" theriot fans wouldn't change their minds on how they think bout him. but thank you for the details wich make no differance to me they are just words that don't matter. whats the point on writing 20 comments on how theriot suckz if theriot fans are not going to chage minds these comments just help us to waste time writing a comment back about how theriot don't suck.
Yeah nobody that is a ryan theriot fan cares wat u say. Yeah u may have every detail on theriot about why he is a bad player but what are you going to do with that argue with theriot fans about how he is bad your not going to change our minds even if you say theriot has a batting average.
it's really "amazing" ;-) how you know this about theriot but the truth is that even if you write us a 100 pgs on how ryan "suck" theriot fans wouldn't change their minds on how they think bout him. but thank you for the details wich make no differance to me they are just words that don't matter. whats the point on writing 20 comments on how theriot suckz if theriot fans are not going to chage minds these comments just help us to waste time writing a comment back about how theriot don't suck.
It's fine. You can like whoever you want to. All that comment shows is that you aren't realy Cubs/baseball fans. A real Cubs fan would want the best players out there at the given time. Since the Cubs have one of the worst shortstops (If not worst) offensively and defensively, I want someone ANYONE, better.
It's just plain stupid to ignore every fact about him that tells you he isn't good, and he's very poor. Theriot fans are a whole new level of idiocy. They aren't real cubs fans.
You're just one of the dumb fans who doesn't really understand how stats work, so you just say "THIS PLAYERS REAL GOOD BECAUSE I SEE HIM MAKE GOOD PLAY"!
Ignoring the fact that not only can he not get on base well,but that he is one of the 3 least powerful people in baseball(He hits the least doubles, triples and homers)
Try to like good players, like DeRosa, because he can hit, take walks, AND play good defense. Or Pie, who plays AMAZING defense.
Theriot is a very poor offensive shortstop. Can't walk, or take pitches, or hit for average, or hit for triples doubles or home runs and hits badly in the clutch. He is a bottom 3 offensive shortstop. His defense can be proven to be slightly below average. He was never a good defender in the minors, and he never hit well in the minors. He's 28 yrs old. He's not a good player. He's not getting any better. He is a very poor player. The Cubs need to find a shortstop and fast.
It's fine if you "like" Theriot, because he is a Cub, but if you say he is good, solid, or even average, that is a complete lie. He is a well below average player. He's hurting the team offensively and defensively. The only spot he should be batting is 8th.(Better yet the bench)((Even better yet, off the team forever))
No one can argue Theriot's good parts with stats and facts. Do you know why? It's because he doesn't have anything good about him. He makes a few flashy plays and looks like he tries hard and you love him. When I see a player who is bad in every phase of baseball.
Oh Thank you Jesus. Someone to argue with. Theriot hit .266 with a .326 OBP, which is very very bad. He has no Home-run power, and hits for every few doubles and triples. His fielding can be shown to be below average as well. So basically, the only thing he gives you is 28 Stolen bases, which is not good enough to start someone, if all they offer is moderate speed.
Seriously, try your best to give me a real argument with facts and stats. You cant. No one can. Because there are NO positives about him. He's 28, so he's not some young talent. Why do people like him? It seriously makes Cubs fans look ignorant. I'm a cub fan, and if anyone is one too, you should dislike Theriot and how he sucks at everything except speed (Wow, 28 SB, thats SO special)
He's 28, and has never been a good minor leaguer, so guess what, he's NOT getting any better. He was never supposed to be any good, and his skills and stats show he isn't. He's statistically a bottom five shortstop in baseball. Get off his bandwagon, he's very bad. He's the very worst player on the cubs, next to Mike Fontenot.
Come on, I want a viable argument to why he's good. The Stats say he's bad. Maybe you "feel" he's good, but he's not. He's not going to get any better. He won't be the starter come May, hopefully sooner. Seriously, stop liking this scrub. But really though, '08 is the year, but we need to get Theriot off the team or on the bench.
Yes, I love all your facts to prove your opinion. It makes me take you seriously. He provides above average speed, that is ALL. Thats not good enough to qualify him to be a starter. Sorry, but Lou will not be starting him come May, and that is a fact. Theriot was the Cubs only choice last year, and once he shows hes not improving, he will be replaced.
Hes great defensively, which is important at the SS position, unlike Cedeno...hes got speed, good batting average, and a great contact hitter...thats what u want at the ss position
well if theriot sucked as much as you said wich he don't mike fontenot would of been a choice and no im not kidding. i've seen fontenot play ss. THERE IS ONLY ONE DEROSA HOW COULD HE PLAY ALL OF THE POSITIONS AT ONE TIME(EXPLAIN YOURSELF.)
IF LOU WANTED 2 THEY COULD OF PUT: D-LEE AT FIRST, FONTENOT AT SECOND A-RAM AT THIRD AND DEROSA COULD OF EASILY PLAYED SHORT. BUT LOU DECIDED TO PUT THERIOT.
Derosa is the best out of Fontenot and Theriot. No comparison. Yes, and obviously Lou made a poor decision, because Theriot's stats when compared to other shortstops, was BOTTOM 3. Which is what I'm saying. He's not even good enough to be called average. And at his age, to be THAT below average with no signs of improving...is not a good thing.
Mike Fontenot will never, ever be a major league starter. He would be lucky to stay a back-up. And Theriot as a starter is just sickening. There's a reason they didn't get in the pros until they were 27. And dude, we're on the same side still. Cubs fans, brother. So we're still cool. I just dont get why people like a well below average player.
i think ryan theriot is a good player for the time he has had in the majors. i think hes going to get better. but i think hes already good cuz he brings alot of energy to the team i think we should keep ryan theriot besides he made some awsome plays this year. and i think he rocks!!!!
We're all cubs fans here, but I'm pretty sure his play will push him to the bench before the end of the first month. If we get Brian Roberts (Fingers Crossed) I'd want Derosa at short. I'd rather have a SS with skill and talent than one with energy.
dude it seems that you dont know anything about baseball theriot is awsome i think youre jelouse because hes hot and your probably not but yeah go cubs
Whats good about him? His batting average was .266, the WORST of every starter on the Cubs. He gets on base TERRIBLY. His .326 OBP isnt slightly below average, it's GOD-AWFUl. His range at shortstop can statistically be shown to be very small. Hes a bottom 4 Shortstop in ALL OF MLB. Im a cub fan, guys, and I dont want a 28 year old, with zero upside, who was very bad. I want the Cubs to win, and I don't want some loser in there. (Even if he's a favorite)
well i think theriot plays a good shortstop .and if he was not a good player then why did lou pinella put him as a starter.? and if he was not a good player i think they would of probably have him in the bench already.
Who's gunna replace him that the Cubs have? Cedeno??! Fuck no. I'm saying, the Cubs need to make a move quickly. They dont want to be left with one of the worst SS in baseball. Seriously, why do you like him? Because he makes a few good plays and he "Tries his heart out!"? I dont get it. His stats are bad, he doesn't hit well with runners on, or in the clutch. You'd think people would hate him. But your ignorant. Seriously, persuade me please.
Like, maybe girls just like him they think hes cute. And maybe you just like him cus he looks cool or something. But with his skill, he should be a bench player. You need to start being a REAL cubs fan. Theriot hurts the Cubs. And I wouldnt even be mad if people didnt make "tribute videos" about someone who is the very worst player on his team.
I am a giant Cubs fan, but Ryan Theriot is an awful player. He doesn't do anything a major league starter should. I have no idea why so many Cubs fans are in love with him. He should be a backup for any other team. He doesn't hit well, he doesn't get on base well, and his defense is average at best. "But hes so fast and scrappy!!!" Please. We need to get a new Shortstop and fast.
glad he's a cardinal now. :)
sendme68 9 months ago
time to buy a cardinals jersey
EightAvalanche 1 year ago
daymmnn!!! hes hott!!!!!!!!
twilightt1414 2 years ago
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jayybeee12 2 years ago
I know and hes becoming a power hitter. =] Hes really good=]
verocubs 2 years ago
good
claydog420 2 years ago
THE RIOT HOMERS AND CUBS BEAT FLORIDA
JayeCWSpade 2 years ago 2
I know!! It was awesome!!=] Grand Slam=]
verocubs 2 years ago
that was awesome! i turned on the tv to the game and soriano walked, then theriot hit a grandslam!
nickjoekevinallmine 2 years ago
im getting theriot's autograph on a jersey that he wore
GoCubsGo008 2 years ago
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Futbolis4Real 2 years ago
1:59 hes da man
and who cares if he doesn't hit home runs he hits over 300 consistently
theriot31cubs 3 years ago
Did u get his autograph??
SantaFe3751Fan 3 years ago
he really isn't having a good year, look im a cubs fan you just nee dto look at his stats
dharmainitiative1 3 years ago
Wat r u talking about. He is having a better year this yearthan last year.
verocubs 3 years ago
he is 110% better then you will ever be dharminitiative1
chicubsown2 3 years ago
well ok. umm your obviously one of those people who dont know baseball, but act like they do.
GoCubsGo343 3 years ago
i know a #2 hitter thats hitting above .300 and stealing bases is horrible lmfao your a smart guy arent ya
cubsfanlee25 3 years ago
you sayin a any hitter who hits above .300 is bad
theriot31cubs 2 years ago 2
what about a tribute for his doubleplay partner Mike Fontenot?
mrsuavelukez12 3 years ago
I'm working on that.
verocubs 3 years ago
what about DeRosa. DeRosa plays a huge part in every win too. but Fontenot is good.
GoCubsGo343 3 years ago
Fontenot hits HRs when you least expect it
but I agree w/ you w/ DeRo
mrsuavelukez12 3 years ago
ryan THE RIOT!!!!!
YankeeMetFan197 3 years ago
yo cool vid and whats the song i forget the name
YankeeMetFan197 3 years ago
It's called Riot time by powerman 5000
verocubs 3 years ago
ok thnx man:)
YankeeMetFan197 3 years ago
stats fuckattack? nl shortstops-the riot 2nd best obp(.390)behind furcal(.448)-check your shit-the riot on base enough?the riot tied 2nd bb w/ reyes(nym) behind ramirez(fla) 52-46 the riot 4th in h nl ss the riot gs-95 gp-99 13 game hit strk til week ago on base 43 of 46 games the riot's ave right now .317 as high as .326+ fielding @ .972 hardworking evryday guy with numbers yeah it sux. get ur shit straight THE RIOT IS ON!!!
wastedcathy 3 years ago
he also has been caught stealing more so than jose reyes, or willy taveras, and has less than 1/3 the number of steals. hes less than 50% which brings his OBP down to 368.or lower
dharmainitiative1 3 years ago
hell yeah!!!!
verocubs 3 years ago
I love the riot!!!!!!!
trptmaster06 3 years ago
hah the mack attack.. your saying he has no arm your full of shit. hah. just from that i doubt your a cubs fan meaning you probaly dont watch all of there games so stfu.
yeahGuy15 3 years ago
wow ur jealous of Ryan being the best shortstop out there so do us all a favor and shut up k
brunettepitchr27 3 years ago
Ryan Theriot is a completely and utterly average shortstop. It's the people like you that I'm pissed at. The people who think he's a great player.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
socks fan...tisk tisk
spancreas 3 years ago
I love Ryan theriot and mark derosa!
brunettepitchr27 3 years ago
Ryan Theriot at the all-star break:
-Leading all players in MLB in times caught stealing. He has 15 Stolen bases, 9 CS for a 60% stealing percentage. Terrible.
-He is second for most errors for a shortstop in MLB (11) And all those errors don't take into account his terribly weak arm and poor choices or throws he consistently makes.
-He is ranked 150 of 160 players in terms of Slugging percentage.He is one of the 10 least powerful players in baseball.
-Worst STARTER on the Cubs so far.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
GREATEST SS OF ALL TIME
MontanaEmpire21 3 years ago
ryan is now one of the nl league leaders in battin average so i dont know why you say he cant get on base...
WuTangClanFan19 3 years ago
you are wrong grim gardner i theriot is a decent player. He is not great i will say but he is decent. Theriot is getting better if u look at this years stats hes already got 13 steals. his average is near 300 as well. I wll say he has little power and a weak arm though
jimunite 3 years ago
ya there is a roit cummen go cubs
lilhytdawg 3 years ago
I want to have His Baby!!! He's fucking gorgeous... Not to mention a southern boy. UGH! I LOVE IT!!
ijolie85 3 years ago
Yup love him!!
verocubs 3 years ago
do you people know what role players are? thats what theriot is, he does the little things. wait, he gets on base terribly? is there such a thing? if you get on base, you get on base- any way possible. david eckstein world series mvp? didnt hit for power, both him and theriot hustle, do the little things, such as move a man over and get on base, they dont stikeout much and play good defense, role players are how teams win... i hate to say it but look at how the white sox won it all
STPnRAZOR 3 years ago
Theriot plays BAD DEFENSE! Come on now. Weak arm and no range.
He has an avg of .266. An OBP of .326, both of those are VERY below average for shortstops. He can't take a walk. Weird how you said he was good at it, but it's OK, you obviously don't know anything, anyhow. I don't care how you think he plays.
He hits very badly in the clutch, so when it matters, he tends to fail.
Eckstein got on base well for his team, Theriot doesn't.Stop being ignorant.
Skill beats hustle every time.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
wrong,especially with that last sentence-you must not be an athlete. skill only gets you so far. without hustle, skill is fruitless.
ok a 266 ave looks bad, but it really isnt too bad for having played 150 games. he cant take a walk? well his walk total was good enought for 3rd on the team.
he only struck out 50 times! had nearly 30 stolen bases. a fielding percentage of .980, committing only 8 errors which was least among starting shortstops who played as many games as he did. bad defense!?
STPnRAZOR 3 years ago
Yes, and showing that you used "Fielding Percentage" just shows how little you know. IF a player stands still, and only gets balls that roll to him, his fielding percentage is 1000%. It's a very dumb stat. There are LEGITIMATE stats such as Range factor and Rate2, which factor how much RANGE a player has, and arm strength. He is rated 22nd of 28 competing shortstops.
A .326 OBP (Which is the result of walks) is very very poor. The avg. OBP for shortstops was .350.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
-.266 average (Very poor)
-.326 average (Very, Very poor)
-.346 slugging % (Making him the 3rd least powerful player in all of baseball)
-Averages the least amount of pitches per plate appearance on the team (2 pitchers have more pitches per at-bat than him)
-Stolen bases are the single most overrated stat in baseball.
-The 22nd best fielding shortstop(Obviously, well below average)
-Already 28, and was a very average minor leaguer(every decent pro has been a good to great minor leaguer)
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
as for all those stats you listed. they're actually good for a first year starter (he's not a power guy so dont expect him to hit hr's).
he's 28, he's only 28, and you know the height and peak of his career is in the next 5 years. if you don't believe me, look why the cubs signed fukudome, he's 30. he doesnt strike out much, he stays healthy, he does all the little things that arent included in the stats that you can only appreciate if you watch the games.
STPnRAZOR 3 years ago
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Yes, that's DEFINTELY what you want as a player. To be an average minor leaguer, and get to the pros at 28 years old. Fukudome is an amazing fielder who will be in the running for Gold gloves while hitting MANY doubles and 15ish homers, Theriot is a sub-par fielder. Fukudome also walks a LOT, Theriot's .326 OBP shows you that he doesn't walk.
Do not compare Fukudome to Theriot. Fukudome has been good his entire career, Theriot has been an average minor leaguer and a very poor Major leaguer.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
Those numbers might be good a for a 22-23 year old call-up player,not a 28 year old.Theriot has absolutely no potential to be good.He has never had good plate discipline at any level
(THAT DOESN'T CHANGE WHEN YOU'RE ALMOST 30!). He has never been an above average fielder, and last year was in the bottom 5 of all shortstops defensively.On top of that,it's dificult to find more than 3 shortstops who hit worse than him.He's good for nothing, and the fact that you LIKE him shows how little you know.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
hey dumbass he is batting 310 he is sparkplug and he is making millions and playing for a championship contending team and what are you doing. So Shutt
UP
saintsdabest 3 years ago
He's making 400,000 dollars this year, just so you know, dipshit.
But I'm sure he'll be making the most in baseball once he signs his big contract.
Who doesn't wanna build a team around a soon-to-be 29 year old terrible defensive, terrible base-running, least powerful shortstop in baseball??
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
There are 25 shortstops in baseball that are EASILY better than him. The other ones are up for debate.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
wrong again, theres rags to riches stories all over the league with players improving once they get into the biggs, ryne sandberg hit .247 in 138 games at single A level-hello 2005 hall of famer. basically who cares about minor league stats, and why are you bringing that up?
STPnRAZOR 3 years ago
look for all of his stats to increase. listen, if the cubs wanted defense they wouldnt have traded away caesar izturis, ryan theriot gets the job done. range to range stat is bullshit, he only committed 8 errors, come on now. he's a role, spark plug player fit perfectly in this lineup both offensively and defensively. thats how the yanks won it with, guys like scott brocious, chuck knoblauch, and paul o neil, stop looking at stats -stats are overrated, actually watch cubs games, damn.
STPnRAZOR 3 years ago 2
Yes, and unless you watch every single minute of every single game, you don't know the story. And yes stats DO tell the whole story. The stat that says "He hits very poorly when runners on base, when trailing, and late in the game" is a fact. Spark plug is not a stat, and the fact that he gets on base at a terrible % is a fact.
Also, if you weren't completely ignorant, you would know he played about half the year at short, the rest was spread out. Fielding % is a very poor stat, wise up.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
A very few stats are overrated, but when a guy hits for a bad average, has a very bad on base percentage, is an awful hitter with the game on the line, it can be proven.How does that "fit into a lineup"?He doesn't have to range to get to balls that AVERAGE shortstops can get to, to go along with his weak throwing arm.You are a flawed viewer, stats are not flawed.A "spark-plug" would be a guy who gets on base very well, hits for a solid average, and can work a count(He does None of those things).
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
Seriously man, he was statistically one of the worst overall hitters in baseball.He hits a poor batting average, and cannot take pitches/work a count or walk.He hits very badly with runners on base and late in the game(Not Clutch). He was well below average defensively. He is not some 24 year old rookie here. He's 28 years old,who has shown NO SIGNS of ever being good(Which is why I brought up the minors numbers)and in an entire pro year,was bad at literally everything that matters in baseball.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
well, clearly we've made our points and are sticking to them. perhaps another one of these, say... all-star break
STPnRAZOR 3 years ago
Alright, but just so you know, my points are based on facts, statistics, and opinions of major league baseball talent scouts.
Your points are based on the games you watched.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
do you people know what role players are? thats what theriot is, he does the little things. wait, he gets on base terribly? is there such a thing? if you get on base, you get on base- any way possible. david eckstein world series mvp? didnt hit for power, both him and theriot hustle, do the little things, such as move a man over and get on base, they dont stikeout much and play good defense, role players are how teams win... i hate to say it but look at how the white sox won it all
STPnRAZOR 3 years ago
Jesus Christ, do you know what OBP is??
Theriot does not get on base often, he gets on base at a very low rate.David Eckstein got on base at a VERY HIGH rate.Eckstein also hit for a high average. Theriot hits for a very low average.
Theriot has no power or any kind, can't hit for average, takes very few walks, can't work a count. He also hits very poorly when it matters (With runners in scoring position, and late in the game). He plays bad defense as well.
I'm SO glad he hustles, though...
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
hate to tell you guys but if we get brian rodgers from the orioles... Theriot is benched
BuyUSAsEthanolKilOil 3 years ago
Jesus.
-It's ROBERTS.
-ROBERTS is a second basemen, Theriot is a crappy shortstop.
I really wish Lou would start DeRosa at shortstop and ROBERTS at 2nd, but he won't, because he likes crappy players like Theriot.
DeRosa is 1000 times better offensively and MUCH better defensively, but I guess that wouldn't matter.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
yeah sure watever and it's brian roberts. yeah i hate if they bench theriot.
verocubs 3 years ago
ha ha ha i noticed that right after i posted it... my bad... but anyways i don't see theriot playing over derosa... but theriot will still see game time.
either way the cubs need to hold on to him... he is goin to develope into a great player
BuyUSAsEthanolKilOil 3 years ago
I'm sorry, but you are one of the fans who see him make a "flashy play" or steal a base, and you think he's good. He can't hit or field, Period. If you knew stats, you would know this. He's hasnt been a good player since college, and in his minor league time, he's been average to below average.
If he was good in the pros last year, or even AVERAGE, then MAYBE he could be good, but since he was the second worst SS in baseball last year, I don't know what you like about him. Bad, bad player.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
hes amazing and so nice! i got to meet him twice at the cubs convention this year and he was so nice! also one day after a game his kid was running around the field and hes like little and hes so cute!
lovethecubs98 3 years ago
ohh really; you are so lucky . when you meet him what did you ask him ? what did he say? how was he nice?. ohh yeah i saw that game. Houston (his son) was wearing a theriot shirt he looked so cute.
verocubs 3 years ago
yeahh that game! well its kinda hard to talk to them cuz sometimes the people are rushing you so at the signing part when i got the baseball signed we just said hi. but then at the photo boot we said hi (again, lol) and how are you and stuff, but he was so cute with the little kids.
lovethecubs98 3 years ago
why waz he so cute with the little kisd? omg i love theriot. im trying to make another theriot video but im waiting for more picture of ryan theriot in the 08 season.
verocubs 3 years ago
well he was nice to everyone. but little kids seem to have a charm on everyone. there so cute! but yeah he is so nice to everyone. yeah make another video i like this one. can you make one of geovany soto? or derek lee? or alfonso soriano? or jaque jones?(did they trade him i forgot i heard they did though). or.......idk lol
lovethecubs98 3 years ago
yeah sure ill make another one of ryan theriot and well well which one you think would be a better video with d-lee,soriano,soto or jones? and unfortunately they did trade jacque jones.
verocubs 3 years ago
ughh that sucks. he was good. they always trade people in my tops. ummm i say soto ( i got to meet him to he was nice.)
jobroluver353 3 years ago
yeah i now that sucks. ok ill made one of soto but i need to find a song first.
verocubs 3 years ago
sorry jobroluver353 is my other one i didnt relize i logged on it. lol. umm but yeah soto. and i cant think f a song right now. can you do like an hip hoppy upbeat song though?
lovethecubs98 3 years ago
yeahh that game! well its kinda hard to talk to them cuz sometimes the people are rushing you so at the signing part when i got the baseball signed we just said hi. but then at the photo boot we said hi (again, lol) and how are you and stuff, but he was so cute with the little kids.
lovethecubs98 3 years ago
yeahh that game! well its kinda hard to talk to them cuz sometimes the people are rushing you so at the signing part when i got the baseball signed we just said hi. but then at the photo boot we said hi (again, lol) and how are you and stuff, but he was so cute with the little kids.
lovethecubs98 3 years ago
yeahh that game! well its kinda hard to talk to them cuz sometimes the people are rushing you so at the signing part when i got the baseball signed we just said hi. but then at the photo boot we said hi (again, lol) and how are you and stuff, but he was so cute with the little kids.
lovethecubs98 3 years ago
It's great that he was good with kids and all. It's just too bad that actually doesn't matter in the game of baseball.
He can't hit. Not for contact, or for doubles triples or Home runs. He has TERRIBLE plate discipline, he rarely walks.
He also is a below average fielder, with no range at shortstop and a very weak arm.
Im sorry if he's a really nice person, he still can't play baseball well. He's just a guy who hustles, but a guy without any skill.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
im not even gonna say anything to that
lovethecubs98 3 years ago
I know. Because if you understand how baseball works, then you realize he's extremely shitty.
Very bad batting average. Very bad on base percentage.(He never walks, or works a count)
Absolutely no power. And hits very poorly when it matters(Thaat can also be proven with stats)
Shitty hitter.
Well below average defender. And at 28, very little chance of improving very much.
But whatever, I'm glad that you like such a terrible player. Go fall in love with Marquis then, too.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
it's really "amazing" ;-) how you know this about theriot but the truth is that even if you write us a 100 pgs on how ryan "suck" theriot fans wouldn't change their minds on how they think bout him. but thank you for the details wich make no differance to me they are just words that don't matter. whats the point on writing 20 comments on how theriot suckz if theriot fans are not going to chage minds these comments just help us to waste time writing a comment back about how theriot don't suck.
verocubs 3 years ago
Yeah nobody that is a ryan theriot fan cares wat u say. Yeah u may have every detail on theriot about why he is a bad player but what are you going to do with that argue with theriot fans about how he is bad your not going to change our minds even if you say theriot has a batting average.
go theriot!!!!!
verocubs 3 years ago
it's really "amazing" ;-) how you know this about theriot but the truth is that even if you write us a 100 pgs on how ryan "suck" theriot fans wouldn't change their minds on how they think bout him. but thank you for the details wich make no differance to me they are just words that don't matter. whats the point on writing 20 comments on how theriot suckz if theriot fans are not going to chage minds these comments just help us to waste time writing a comment back about how theriot don't suck.
verocubs 3 years ago
It's fine. You can like whoever you want to. All that comment shows is that you aren't realy Cubs/baseball fans. A real Cubs fan would want the best players out there at the given time. Since the Cubs have one of the worst shortstops (If not worst) offensively and defensively, I want someone ANYONE, better.
It's just plain stupid to ignore every fact about him that tells you he isn't good, and he's very poor. Theriot fans are a whole new level of idiocy. They aren't real cubs fans.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
Yeah, just because his evil "STATS" say he hits horribly,can't take a walk, and plays very poor defense,that doesn't make it true, right?
In your comments, you have't said WHY he doesn't suck. You ignore facts, and just go by the occasional game you see him in. How come he's good?
Does he hit the ball well?(No)
Does he have good plate discipline/good at taking walks? (Actually, really bad at both)
Is he a solid fielder(No, he's well below average)
And don't bring up how "Hard he tries".
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
You're just one of the dumb fans who doesn't really understand how stats work, so you just say "THIS PLAYERS REAL GOOD BECAUSE I SEE HIM MAKE GOOD PLAY"!
Ignoring the fact that not only can he not get on base well,but that he is one of the 3 least powerful people in baseball(He hits the least doubles, triples and homers)
Try to like good players, like DeRosa, because he can hit, take walks, AND play good defense. Or Pie, who plays AMAZING defense.
Instead of a guy who's bad at EVERYTHING.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
His first pic was hot
ChicagoChrisBreezy 3 years ago
yeah i know
verocubs 3 years ago
bayou basher up in the chi!!!!!!! 08's goin down
JRadFSU247 3 years ago
08 is our year!!!!
verocubs 3 years ago
Theriot is a very poor offensive shortstop. Can't walk, or take pitches, or hit for average, or hit for triples doubles or home runs and hits badly in the clutch. He is a bottom 3 offensive shortstop. His defense can be proven to be slightly below average. He was never a good defender in the minors, and he never hit well in the minors. He's 28 yrs old. He's not a good player. He's not getting any better. He is a very poor player. The Cubs need to find a shortstop and fast.
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
It's fine if you "like" Theriot, because he is a Cub, but if you say he is good, solid, or even average, that is a complete lie. He is a well below average player. He's hurting the team offensively and defensively. The only spot he should be batting is 8th.(Better yet the bench)((Even better yet, off the team forever))
TheMackAttack1 3 years ago
I like theriot
but is he really the answer for the everyday shortstop?
I dunno.. but I have my doubts...
DaCubFan1908 4 years ago
well in my opinion , he does have wat a ss should have.
but everybody is in titled to their own opinions.
verocubs 4 years ago
how is he new? this will be his 4th year on the cubs and hes been in the system for about 7
crazymadman12 4 years ago
yeah i know he went to the major leagues in 05 but he was new in the roster in 07.
verocubs 4 years ago
No one can argue Theriot's good parts with stats and facts. Do you know why? It's because he doesn't have anything good about him. He makes a few flashy plays and looks like he tries hard and you love him. When I see a player who is bad in every phase of baseball.
TheGrimGardener 4 years ago
how is he even close to being worst ss in baseball? u obviously don't know much about baseball
chitownballer86 4 years ago 2
Oh Thank you Jesus. Someone to argue with. Theriot hit .266 with a .326 OBP, which is very very bad. He has no Home-run power, and hits for every few doubles and triples. His fielding can be shown to be below average as well. So basically, the only thing he gives you is 28 Stolen bases, which is not good enough to start someone, if all they offer is moderate speed.
TheGrimGardener 4 years ago
Seriously, try your best to give me a real argument with facts and stats. You cant. No one can. Because there are NO positives about him. He's 28, so he's not some young talent. Why do people like him? It seriously makes Cubs fans look ignorant. I'm a cub fan, and if anyone is one too, you should dislike Theriot and how he sucks at everything except speed (Wow, 28 SB, thats SO special)
TheGrimGardener 4 years ago
he is 28 but he barely turn 28 fyi.
he barely got into the big leagues. so he is going to get better.
verocubs 4 years ago
He's 28, and has never been a good minor leaguer, so guess what, he's NOT getting any better. He was never supposed to be any good, and his skills and stats show he isn't. He's statistically a bottom five shortstop in baseball. Get off his bandwagon, he's very bad. He's the very worst player on the cubs, next to Mike Fontenot.
TheGrimGardener 4 years ago
If you can name 25 or more better players at the position of shortstop, thats why he's one of the worst.
TheGrimGardener 4 years ago
Come on, I want a viable argument to why he's good. The Stats say he's bad. Maybe you "feel" he's good, but he's not. He's not going to get any better. He won't be the starter come May, hopefully sooner. Seriously, stop liking this scrub. But really though, '08 is the year, but we need to get Theriot off the team or on the bench.
TheMackAttack1 4 years ago
no we dont theriot is awsome you dont know talen if it bites your ass!!!
djcubs 4 years ago
Yes, I love all your facts to prove your opinion. It makes me take you seriously. He provides above average speed, that is ALL. Thats not good enough to qualify him to be a starter. Sorry, but Lou will not be starting him come May, and that is a fact. Theriot was the Cubs only choice last year, and once he shows hes not improving, he will be replaced.
TheMackAttack1 4 years ago
Hes great defensively, which is important at the SS position, unlike Cedeno...hes got speed, good batting average, and a great contact hitter...thats what u want at the ss position
chitownballer86 4 years ago 3
theriot was not the only choice they could of putted in cedeño if they wanted 2. or derosa or fontenot even but lou decided to put him in.
verocubs 4 years ago
Cedeno is worse. And Derosa was playing every other position on the field. And Mike Fontenot? Are you kidding?
TheGrimGardener 4 years ago
well if theriot sucked as much as you said wich he don't mike fontenot would of been a choice and no im not kidding. i've seen fontenot play ss. THERE IS ONLY ONE DEROSA HOW COULD HE PLAY ALL OF THE POSITIONS AT ONE TIME(EXPLAIN YOURSELF.)
IF LOU WANTED 2 THEY COULD OF PUT: D-LEE AT FIRST, FONTENOT AT SECOND A-RAM AT THIRD AND DEROSA COULD OF EASILY PLAYED SHORT. BUT LOU DECIDED TO PUT THERIOT.
verocubs 4 years ago
Derosa is the best out of Fontenot and Theriot. No comparison. Yes, and obviously Lou made a poor decision, because Theriot's stats when compared to other shortstops, was BOTTOM 3. Which is what I'm saying. He's not even good enough to be called average. And at his age, to be THAT below average with no signs of improving...is not a good thing.
TheGrimGardener 4 years ago
Mike Fontenot will never, ever be a major league starter. He would be lucky to stay a back-up. And Theriot as a starter is just sickening. There's a reason they didn't get in the pros until they were 27. And dude, we're on the same side still. Cubs fans, brother. So we're still cool. I just dont get why people like a well below average player.
TheGrimGardener 4 years ago
i think ryan theriot is a good player for the time he has had in the majors. i think hes going to get better. but i think hes already good cuz he brings alot of energy to the team i think we should keep ryan theriot besides he made some awsome plays this year. and i think he rocks!!!!
verocubs 4 years ago
We're all cubs fans here, but I'm pretty sure his play will push him to the bench before the end of the first month. If we get Brian Roberts (Fingers Crossed) I'd want Derosa at short. I'd rather have a SS with skill and talent than one with energy.
TheMackAttack1 4 years ago
dude it seems that you dont know anything about baseball theriot is awsome i think youre jelouse because hes hot and your probably not but yeah go cubs
djcubs 4 years ago
Whats good about him? His batting average was .266, the WORST of every starter on the Cubs. He gets on base TERRIBLY. His .326 OBP isnt slightly below average, it's GOD-AWFUl. His range at shortstop can statistically be shown to be very small. Hes a bottom 4 Shortstop in ALL OF MLB. Im a cub fan, guys, and I dont want a 28 year old, with zero upside, who was very bad. I want the Cubs to win, and I don't want some loser in there. (Even if he's a favorite)
TheMackAttack1 4 years ago
Ok, nevermind. You're a girl. I have no use arguing sports with you.
TheMackAttack1 4 years ago
yeah go cubs go!!!!
well i think theriot plays a good shortstop .and if he was not a good player then why did lou pinella put him as a starter.? and if he was not a good player i think they would of probably have him in the bench already.
but go cubs. and go ryan theriot.the_riot
verocubs 4 years ago
Who's gunna replace him that the Cubs have? Cedeno??! Fuck no. I'm saying, the Cubs need to make a move quickly. They dont want to be left with one of the worst SS in baseball. Seriously, why do you like him? Because he makes a few good plays and he "Tries his heart out!"? I dont get it. His stats are bad, he doesn't hit well with runners on, or in the clutch. You'd think people would hate him. But your ignorant. Seriously, persuade me please.
TheMackAttack1 4 years ago
Like, maybe girls just like him they think hes cute. And maybe you just like him cus he looks cool or something. But with his skill, he should be a bench player. You need to start being a REAL cubs fan. Theriot hurts the Cubs. And I wouldnt even be mad if people didnt make "tribute videos" about someone who is the very worst player on his team.
TheMackAttack1 4 years ago
I am a giant Cubs fan, but Ryan Theriot is an awful player. He doesn't do anything a major league starter should. I have no idea why so many Cubs fans are in love with him. He should be a backup for any other team. He doesn't hit well, he doesn't get on base well, and his defense is average at best. "But hes so fast and scrappy!!!" Please. We need to get a new Shortstop and fast.
TheMackAttack1 4 years ago
omg why do u think i named myself RYANTHERIOT. My name is Mrs. Theriot! I luv ryan theriot!
ryantheriot2 4 years ago 2
hell yeah i love theriot 2.
verocubs 4 years ago
yeah!
ryantheriot2 4 years ago 2
hes is so cute and hes a good player.
verocubs 4 years ago
GO CUBS!!! RYan "the Riot" Theriot is the best playa ever!!!
CheeseandpPickels444 4 years ago
i think that too.
verocubs 4 years ago
nice
1GoPatriotsGo1 4 years ago
thank you
verocubs 4 years ago
ryan theriot rules hes my baseball idol
SuperRetardedLuigi 4 years ago 2
yeah ryan theriot rocks i love him 2.!!!!!!
verocubs 4 years ago
You awsome video go cubs go!!!!!
verocubs 4 years ago