Guilty Gear 2 Overture - Mission #12

[AccepteThisUserName]

Dizzy ROCKS !!!!!! I like her SO much !

[thePRINNacle]

Don't you guys love it that: Ky and Sol are in one place talking and NOT hearing "Noontide" in the background? Looks like people DO change! :D

[TheAnaz41745]

Just stop complaining and accept that she is Dizzy! There's already enough proof as it is.

Rather than arguing about who she is, they better make sure that she's okay and back to normal so we can see who she is, and if she is Dizzy then they better be!

Sorry if anyone is offended but as a player who main and liked her, the thought of her in pain is really making me angry. I hope you guys understand.

[FemaleYouko]

I don't think the maiden of the grove is Dizzy since no one knows for sure. For all we know that could be someone else that Ky kiske married. So we'll have to wait and see until the next game comes out.

[Cypher0120]

@FemaleYouko

It doesn't get any more direct than the Memorial Book with their relationship being a mutual loving relationship. It certainly isn't one-sided, and there really is no other candidate that even comes close to Dizzy.

Even the artbook has the maiden of the grove having wings and a tail.

[FemaleYouko]

@Cypher0120 True the gear does look like Dizzy and may have the wings and the tail, but like I said it could be a new character or it could be a Dizzy clone. We'll have to wait and see until Guilty Gear 3 comes out and hopefully it will explain. So for now, I'll keep on looking for evidence.

[Cypher0120]

@FemaleYouko

What are the chances that Ky finds a Gear who would look nearly identical in features to Dizzy within the span of two to three years, have the same backstory (important) with the forged bounty that Ky himself helped with in GGX, and a son?

Considering their endings in Accent Core plus, a new character or clone is highly unlikely.

[LEGOMANIAC419]

4:59--NANIIIII?!?

[CowChan789]

I KNEW THEY WOULD BE TOGETHER!!!! 8D

DizzyxKy fan lol

No matter how much you deny it

Sin is the damn proof

and if you observe more closely you see a friggin tail and she is discolored

END OF STORY

[Str8Murder]

As for you jap>eng fanboys-- can it. The dubs did perfectly. Better by far compared to the dubs for the first guilty gear.

And I think the idea of a Ky/Dizzy relationship is beautiful. If you followed the story, you can see they had been setting it up since Guilty Gear X. Both share great personalities and they learned a great deal from one another. Their characters evolved directly because of each other. And after the way Accent Core ended-- its no wonder.

[Aelita59]

this is confusing @_@

[TerrorScorpion]

Hell Yeah, japanese version is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

The english version's dubbers didn't passed down the right atmosphere on the cutscenes, if you know what I mean.

They've changed the way of talking of the characters too much.

Also, Ky's dubber has a gay voice.

[LEGOMANIAC419]

5:00--NANIIIIIIII?!?!

[theJJ88]

In Guilty Gear, Sol killed Justice.

In Guilty Gear X we were introduced Dizzy, who was daughter of Justice. Rumours of Sol being father as he couldn't finish her. They feign Dizzy's death.

In Guilty Gear 2 Ky Kiske is married to daughter of Justice, and as you can see, "frozen lover" has wings, tail, mini skirt and familiar pose [see 2:00 , 3:20]. Sin is son of Ky Kiske and he calls Sol Badguy "old man". Ky trusted that Sol would take care of Sin.

Heaven or Hell - Let's Rock.

[iMeta4]

And where to find more of this information?

[iMeta4]

And where to find more of this information?

[danceljoy]

Head to Dustloop. Dig the old posts in the "GG2 Overture Released" and "Guilty Gear Stories" threads.

[iMeta4]

Thanks. And I did not realize I double posted.

[KarmaIAm]

Has this came out in the US yet? I haven't seen this game around before and its in Japanse so, maybe not?

[Cypher0120]

It`s out a few monthis ago in North America.

[Cypher0120]

Anyone seen the new Memorial book?

Especially the character relationship chart where it shows a line between Ky and Dizzy with a heart in between?

More proof for this pairing perhaps?

[DizzyFanJp]

Additionally, it is described that Ky and Dizzy are rapports in the memorial book. It might be a setting that was added in the future.

(The translation software is used. )

[featherwhick]

you guys are stupid no offense but his wife is justice they even say the name justice the game creator said it was justice etc etc if it were dizzy her hair would have been blue and it wasnt

[Cypher0120]

No offense but his wife is a reproduction of Justice. The interview with the game creator, Daisuke Ishiwatari, said she's Justice's daughter etc, etc, etc..., and her hair can still not be clearly seen in that scene.

[silentspecter47]

From AX08, the makers of GG said that overture is like a alternate time line or parallel world from the 2D fighting series right after X...Well I'm hoping that it would be someone else that is frozen since I'm more of a SolXDizzy fan...I got taken in after sol showed off a soft side after his battle with Dizzy...

[Cypher0120]

Tsk, tsk....if you were reading the most recent interviews, Overture is not an alternate timeline or parralel world. It takes place after X2 for sure. The fifty question interview to be exact.

[Destronus]

The only question is. if it was Dizzy, how did she get frozen

[Cypher0120]

She began to disappear because of Valentine's magic. Ky used the Thunderseal to freeze her...well, converted it into something that would stop her from disappearing.

[Destronus]

It looks like dizzy but with no tail and the wing color are opposite to Dizzy's original black to white from right to left wing color, which this one has white to black from right to left wing.

[Cypher0120]

Mmm....the artbook has a much clearer pic of her. She had a tail there at least. Also the fifty question interview....

[DizzyFanJp]

i`m ane of japanese fan of Dizzy.

i`m disappointed at the idea that

Dizzy and ky will get married.

That no doubt makes their fans disappointed.

I can`t agree with such foolish thing.

what do you think of this?

[OrgXIII4U]

Wait. So Dizzy is Ky's wife? I thought that was her Actually, a lot of fans over here agree with it. I personally understand it, and actually like the idea. Ky and Dizzy are two of if not the most pure-hearted and genuinely good characters in GG. Honestly, it makes a lot of sense that the two would fall in love and get married. I like the idea.

[OrgXIII4U]

May I ask you a question? What does Ky say at 4:04 that stops Dr.Paradigm from wanting to kill her? And what does Ky say at 4:53 that causes Izuna and Dr. Paradigm to be so surprised?

[Cypher0120]

His son with That Woman.

[EternalMelody]

So you don't think that Sol is a good guy?

[OrgXIII4U]

Doesn't Ky say 'Dizzy' at 0:18 and 1:10?

[AJ15ist]

In 0:18, it's Vizuel.

[djjonwong]

something just hit me...I wonder how Jam is gonna take this...

[Cypher0120]

Saying to herself, "Shouldn't have fabricated that bounty..."

[djjonwong]

you notice, Sol did not seem to be shocked or even alittle surpised. I expected a "I'm impressed" whistle from Sol. no, he just stands there look'n badass.

[ReiKusanagi]

From what I've seen and such... in a AC+ ending Dizzy does end up living with Ky... and who to say they wouldn't hit it off. And I also heard that the X games were canon sidestories (I believe the exact details of AC+ endings might tie into this to a point; that and later games)

That 5 years alot can and has happened. I do think it's Dizzy myself.

[Cypher0120]

The new interview in gamefaqs confirms that the X series are canon. What I want to see is Ky's harem because...just because.

[Hyperion2102]

...pause at 2:04,her tail and wings can be seen clearly....

IMAO she is Dizzy!!!

[OrgXIII4U]

1:16 is a pretty good picture too. 5:50 is a good shot of her wings. 3:21 is probably the best shot of her though.

[helltoast]

Someone, somewhere in the game, says that Ky's lover is 'the daughter of Justice', and, IIRC, and I do since I'm a die-hard GG fan, Dizzy is Justice's daughter. Unless she has a sister.

[Cypher0120]

Well, daughter of Justice...approximately eight years old...fabricated bounty.....immense power...

What does that evidence point to?

[lionid]

era hora ky la puta que te pario eras un reprimido en el juego pero bien que le das ahora a dizzy jajajaja

[buntado6]

3:06, I think I see a tail...

[Cypher0120]

That's a skirt. Curiously enough, Dizzy was wearing something similar to that in the anime-ish promotional trailer for GGX...

[buntado6]

... WHAT A SMALL WORLD THIS IS!!! I know who you are, or at least, I know that you write fanfics!

[Cypher0120]

So...can you give me ideas on how to start a Testament/May fanfic? And/or a Ky/ABA one? ^_^

[buntado6]

Shh........ srry, I am not good at making historys :(

[buntado6]

I dont know you but from 0:51 to 1:03 the wings are completly visible...

[xfmaxgreedx]

It better not be Dizzy. It's Ride the Lightning not Ride the Dizzy. Damn you Ky! You better have not stolen my Dizzy!

[FATALFURYKID]

He Vapor Thrusted her all night long. lol

[Cypher0120]

By the way, I smell a shipping war about to happen. With the combatants being Ky/Dizzy, Dizzy/Testament, Ky/Jam and most importantly Ky/Sol shippers.

[GuiltyGearGirl]

About? It's been going on for months already. I think the SolxKy fans are the most upset. Yaoi fangirls can be scary. I should know, I support SolxKy. We're kinda in denile/hoping it's an alternate time line. But hey, KyxDizzy i my second favorite pair so... *shrug*

AC plus also hints a lot at KyxDizzy.

[Cypher0120]

Still no sign of any Ky/ABA fans though. Wah...

[MissNothingness]

Looks like Dizzy, I mean I clearly make out the wings and maybe? her tail. Not sure, but I think Maiden of the Grove is enough to lean toward the idea that its Dizzy. And I agree with Cypher, Kanojyo means lover or girlfriend so I imagine no marriage as well.

[Cypher0120]

Slightly wrong but it's Maiden of the Shaded Tree. Who is somehow related to Justice with a bounty on her head years ago that was taken but not confirmed. *crossing my fingers for her to be ABA* (Well not really.)

[MissNothingness]

If the info on wiki is correct (which is really questionable >_>) the key valentine is looking for is the "child of justice who married/lover of Ky Kiske and also the son of Ky Kiske." also I think it helps that Valentine is a copy of Justice and she is seeking them out. I think it's pretty safe to say that it is Dizzy.

[Cypher0120]

Never really translated as the child of Justice...just as "Justice's reproduction." If Aria is Justice's copy, why not just call th other a copy as well. Therefore reproduction could really mean child. Did Justice had a second child?

Then there's the aforementioned fabricated bounty...

And Accent Core plus' endings. The cute one with Dizzy and Ky...or the creepy one with lots of apparently mindless Dizzy clones being mass-produced...

[DizzyFanJp]

ディズィーがカイと結婚とか、ふざけんなよ石渡。

ＧＧ2はむかつく

[Cypher0120]

Huh?

[Cypher0120]

Just a thought but Ky and kokage no kimi (likely Dizzy.) are not technically married. Sin is after all an illegitimate son. Ky is the father, a gear's the mother, no...there was no official wedding for them.

[Cypher0120]

Since the X series are still canon according to Ishiwatare's interviews...I found a little something...again.

Playing through Dizzy's story in XX, I see her trying to keep her name a secret. (Before the fight with Slayer.) And That Man saying later on that she's the "Hope of the world" far beyond his expectations. This seems to point to kokage no kimi being Dizzy?

[maiyamay]

maybe.....

[maiyamay]

Since i don't play overture,where is sin by that time???

[Cypher0120]

Sin is doing stuff in mission 11...fighting Valentine's servants and probably losing to Valentine.

[maiyamay]

thanx!!!! I appreciated it.

[maiyamay]

hey guys....still working on about kokage no kimi??? She exactly doesn't look like dizzy so much...she looked more 'matured' than BEFORE...she's frozen,right??? and why is that so???

[Cypher0120]

Frozen for her safety because she started to sublimate in front of Ky. The Thunderseal was used to keep her there otherwise she'd disappear completely and Valentine would find the key. (I wonder why the sublimation didn't affect Sin though?)

[xfmaxgreedx]

I think because Sin is hybrid with human and gear. It's why I think it's not dizzy because she's a human/gear hybrid too. I don't think Sol was affected either because he was a prototype so he was an exeption. Just like the time Justice couldn't control even though she is suppose to be able to control all Gears.

[Cypher0120]

Wait, I think I got it. Just like how Dr. Paradigm's gear friends were brainwashed, Sin was also brainwashed because none of them were known of at the initial sublimation. Valentine knows about Sin's mother though. Besides, if it is Dizzy, it makes sense for her to be affected. Half of her is still Gear. But Sin is more human than Gear...somewhat.

[buntado6]

And yeah, I see the skirt now

[manjomethunder]

moreover, she is the child of Justice, and those genes somehow have something to do with the Key. And Sin has those genes as well since he's her child

[Cypher0120]

And the main point of interest, the bounty on her head that was claimed without proof. We know who really claimed that, right?

[Cypher0120]

So, I compiled the information about kokage no kimi...

She's a gear who married Ky and gave birth to Sin. (This sounds odd.)She has Justice's gear cells and is her "reproduction." Rumoured to have great power, a bounty was placed on her head a long time ago. Someone claimed it but had no proof. She is the key to the Cube. Sol seems not at all surprised when Dr. Paradigm identified her as the key. That's basically it other than her name means "maiden of the grove."

[Angeldodo]

lol we just need to wait for the next overture to come... ,who knows maybe She appear in the next game

[Cypher0120]

Well, it won't be an Overture 2. Overture preludes something...Aria maybe. So the next title would be Guilty Gear....Concerto? Intermedio? Requiem? Eh, let's just wait.

[Angeldodo]

look closely in full screen you can see that is  not a tail is the skirt and Dizzy `s hair is long as hell why is short there? that`s not Dizzy

[Cypher0120]

Which is why it's probably not the Dizzy we're familiar with. (Unless Dizzy cut her hair in the five year time skip. The sublimation could have removed her tail...)

I'd say she's an alternate "Dizzy" to fit with the story.

By the way, May still exists right? She was in the original Guilty Gear after all. Unless Testament killed her...

[dollargig]

Who knows, maybe Accent Core Plus might shed a little light on this subject.

[Angeldodo]

-.- i saw that vid like more then 100 times and u know i dont see any tail is the skirt that looks like a tail because of the light but she dont have tail

[elguxxx]

If you look closely around seconds 34 to 39, she seems to have a tail... plus the wings... one would think she is dizzy.

They dont want to make that clear to us right now... thats why the colours are different from the original.

Besides, for the people who are asking what happened to the jelly fish and so on... a lot can happen in 10 years...

Well.... anyway, for the moment we will have to speculate, until something that tells us what happened in between comes out.

[Cypher0120]

5 years only. Not 10. I see no tail and there are other people who could be considered "winged" (though they're not gears.)

Millia when using that overdrive, I-No and her damned megalomania...

Never assume anything even if it implies.

[NGMK]

At 4:37 you can see tail. And wings coming out from back (not head or spheres... ¦3 ). Ky confesses that she is a GEAR.

Moreover Doc. called her a "backup" of Justice! lol

Though the funniest thing is that Sin is their child (that explains the name...)

[elguxxx]

Well... about the tail, you are right... It is a skirt... A friend of mine made me notice not so long ago.

"Winged" beings,as you call them, can be found through out that world, but for the moment we only know on winged gear. Unless Millia or I-no are gears (they've never mentioned that before), well I would assume it is dizzy.

[elguxxx]

By the way, assuming is not wrong as long as you and the others know it's a hypothesis and not a truth. There is no perfect information in this world, so "assuming" is something everyone constantly does. Believing that to be absoultely true with no doubt is totally different.

[Cypher0120]

True enough.

Anyways, Millia`s no gear. She`s using a forbidden beast like poor Zato. (Could she have died as a result?)

No one knows what I-No is but she should still exist. If she didn`t, Ky wouldn`t have survived the holy wars I think.

[Cypher0120]

Still, this Gear is the offspring of Justice. Plus wings.

[dollargig]

I don't think Millia died, but at least Zato is instead of her (but he still needs more character, maybe a bit more cynical) oh and because of I-No alone, Ky would be dead any way but since That Man exsist and gave I-no her orders (like how a pimp treat a ho :P) Ky will still exist. But I wonder what the fuck happen to Axl, Potemkin, Chipp, May, Faust, Millia and the other characters of the series. And what happen to Za.., oh right burning or freezing in hell.

[Cypher0120]

I blame all this confusion on the time travellers: I-No, Axl, Raven, and That Man. (Though Raven and That Man probably travels with I-No anyway.)

[Cypher0120]

Just a thought but, isn't that what Dizzy was wearing in the GGX anime-ish intro movie. The shot when she was in the grove saying: "Don't Gears have the right to live? All I wish is to live here quietly..."

[dollargig]

Thats a maybe on that question.

And how did Axl mess up the time line? Was it for being in the first game or did it happen somewhere outside the GG universe?

[Cypher0120]

I just think Axl may accidentally changed a few things. He IS an unwilling time-traveller after all.

[iamgunther]

Angel wings! It is Dizzy. This game has all of the key players in the Sol vs. that man storyline, being Sol, Ky, Justice, and That Man. If Dizzy was here, that would complete it with the exclusion of I-No and Testament, who should have been in this game, dammit! 3D Badlands would kick ass!

[Cypher0120]

You know, if it is Dizzy (or more likely an "alternate timeline" Dizzy), wouldn't it look cute though? Ky, the Sacred Knight. Dizzy, the princess of the Gears.

Then again, Eddie calls Sol and Dizzy the demon knight and demon princess.

I still prefer Ky/Dizzy than Ky/Jam. Or Ky/new character.

[2244P]

I doubt the girl in ice is Dizzy because "officially she's dead" but is living with the Jellyfish Pirates and there's no hint Dizzy and Ky like each other. The other thing is she's now the leader of the Jellyfish Pirates and is fighting in a war that takes place 100 years later which is shown in her ending of GGX Plus.

[Cypher0120]

Ah, but Dr. Paradigm said that 'Kokage no Kimi' had a bounty on her head a few years ago. Someone claimed to have killed her but there's no proof. Then the good old Doctor thought Ky captured her. That's all I've got.

They really should make everything clearer in the game rather than let us speculate.

Oh, Ky's ending in GGX seems to hint something but that probably never happened.

[2244P]

You mean the part Ky was showing Dizzy different places of the human world in the GGX Plus ending? I'm sure it's just out of chivalry since Ky's an ex-knight. If Ky and Dizzy really do become together, I don't think their relationship fits. I liked the Ky and Jam relationship better.

[kazumaryuho]

maybe well only they know i'm just stating my opinion

[kazumaryuho]

oh well i don't know any other gear thats female then

[2244P]

Solaria from GGX Lightning The Argent novel and Valentine from GG2: Overture.

[jambkool]

Solaria had very long hair and elf ears. Valentine is a copy of Justice I think.

[Cypher0120]

I don't know if this is true but someone said that in an interview, Daisuke mentioned that after Guilty Gear X, the storyline branches off into this and X2. Can someone please clarify?

[ebere213]

No point in bothering to speculate if it's dizzy or solaria. The way i see we will figure it out when accent core plus is released, and if that doesn't explain it. Then we can count on daisuke's love for guilt gear game revisions. I just have a feeling that a "Guilty gear 2 Overture: Accent core" or a "Guilty Gear 2: Overture plus" will come along some day that will explain everything.

[Cypher0120]

Sounds a lot like Dizzy to me. If that's the case, what I want to know is what happened to Testament, Jam, and the Jellyfish.

[geardorako]

its not dizzy. testament, jam, the jellyfish etc no longer exist and are considered to be only side stories, with overture being the main plot.

[Cypher0120]

Ah, but they do still exist. Well...the ones that appeared in the novels and Drama Cds. Makes me wonder if that woman's Dizzy or Solaria?

[jambkool]

Wasn't Solaria created by the Blackard Organization in the novel? Still don't know what she looks like though.

[Cypher0120]

This is what I gothe translations in dustloop.

1) She is a Gear.

2) She was also affected by the disappearance/annihilation incidents. (Explains the missing tail I think.)

3) She is the "key" that Valentine is looking for, Justice's backup.

4) Sin is her and Ky's son.

6) She is called kokage no kimi/maiden of the grove.

7) Dr. Paradigm says that she is the offspring of Justice.

[envy400]

4. That explains Sol smaking Sin alot. XD

[flaminski]

4) Sin is her and Ky's

who's sin can any one explain :(

[NamelessChibi]

Flag Boy. (Check out the other Videos.)

[NeroBlackheart666]

That is not Dizzy, that thing does not have a tail. Case closed. (I hope)

[kazumaryuho]

yes but she has wings and justice only had one offspring that looked human and had wings explain that

[kazumaryuho]

and i saw the tail if you look close enough you'll see it she also has the bow on her head that only dizzy wore her hair sticks up probably from the ice seal and the maiden of the grove is also a hint when you fight dizzy you fight her in a grove in guilty gear x2 THAT IS DIZZY i know my favorite guilty gear character when i see it

[assisindrifter742]

I think your right....

[Savin877]

I still think this is all utter crap. I dont mind a new game, but dont throw away every single character we have come to love and keep only Sol and Ky.

[jambkool]

Wait, girl has wings I think. Is that Dizzy? Nah...but I did hear someone talk about Justice there

[DTJAAAAM]

From what I've read, people initially thought it was Dizzy as well. The person is supposedly a new clone of Justice.

[jambkool]

Guess I should call her Dizzy no. 2 then. Hehe.

[RiXeD]

Oh god your so funny and intelligent!

Now GTFO.