There is no reason at all to compare Import vs. Domestic.It's all about preference, one is not cooler than the other and your dick is not bigger cause your engine is. SO GET THE FUCK OVER IT!
Nether car could beat my built 87 3/4 4x4 suburban it has 3 turbos, 1 blower,nos & meth inj, oh & 5 inter coolers. That puts an end to which ones better.;)
@mopodriver which one would you drive then? given the opportunity to have either of these cars given to you free of charge. i think we both know your going to choose the superior terminator. if not your a moron.
my cousins got a round track racecar. stock motor,besides header. cold air intake,falken tires. weighs about 1900. 1 seat,roll cage. EVERYTHING has been cut out interior wise. the piece that goes from left side to ride at the bottom of the back window was cut out also. in between tailights was all cut out. aluminum bumpers weigh in about 8 pounds,and cost him $14. but,bumper cover fits over it. light as you can get it.
i own a inline pro turbo'd s2000.my wife ownS a o3 svt cobra.my car was chosen 4 looks.ill be selling it to get either a 350z and add a turbo or..a 370z.stock vs stock..hands down i used 2 get raped.now i rape my wife.THAT LIL SLUT..lol.a prelude stock or even turbo'd on a stock block still wouldnt beat a03 04 cobra.look.i love imports cause they are just imo nicer..if i had a 2012 gt-r than id talk mad shit..muscle is easier to build.I LOVE IMPORT.I ALSO LOVE AMERICAN..nissan tech
Super old video of a sick Prelude. Built by Tony with the help of his crew at Notorious Motorsports. Smile and suck it up, we had many cars that have humbled the V8 ego. Many teary eyes in the crowds on those nights. Plus Tonys Z28 is sick also. A man of many talents. V8 or 4 banger. Take your pick . A real driver. And to steelcity, it is a super clean street car, not full blown drag car like was stated earlier. I miss the Notorious, maybe one day the need will arise and I will reopen.
everyone can bitch about import or muscle, sure. But the bottom line is when you get smoked you get smoked. Props to the Lude. I owned a 95 5.0 and sunk a LOT of money into it, the gearing was much like a 3rd gen Lude in the end with all the power i only did about 120mph but i'd get there fast. One day someone in a fucking ACURA left me in his rear view. I have respect for anyone that can build a "2000lbs trash can" economy car to smoke an american muscle car.
@BecomingxThexCorey integra was a built for racingluxury puropses, i don't se how that is econimcal, i think that peice of shit ford was more econmical
What's up with people pouring cash into their fwd economy cars? That's about all that prelude is good for, racing from a roll. Give me a stock cobra any day over that 2000 pound trash can
@sweettits92 That is the exact method of the Hot Rod movement -- broke younger people take their shitty/base cars and soup them up with more powerful motors. How did that basic historical truth elude you?
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@jgizzy That's beautiful man, let me just say it that's a beautiful way to word that. That's what it's all about, hot rodding the underdogs and blowing the doors off of cars people would think you never could. That's one nasty prelude man, and this is coming from a mustang man lol.
@jgizzy would've been full of win if properly linked xD just saying.
and thank you for trying to stop import vs domestic it's really annoying for people like me who genuinely enjoy cars regardless of what country the company is from. I <3 my bb2 (4th gen prelude si) and my z/28
You're welcome budddy, we need to fight this us-vs-them disease that's in our car culture, it's illogical and a cousin to racism -- I call it Ricism :-P
Z28 huh, what year? Three different times I was close to buying a 4th gen Camaro. An LT1 one, a 3.5 one (eww), and an LS1 -- all automatics though cuz that's all we have up here...
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@sweettits92 hey retard did it ever occur to you that a stock '01 prelude is faster than an audi a4 with the 2.0T, the consensus that honda makes piece of shit cars just wreaks of ignorance, sweet tits.
@sweettits92 lol your name already is fucked up thats why you would chose a car like a fucking shitty cobra.. a prelude would shit on that car all the time ;)
@Demolutionguy A Cobra (especially 03-04!) is not shitty, nor would "a Prelude" shit on that car all the time...geez people, stop with this domestic vs import bullshit....It's almost as pathetic is Democrat vs Republican debates.
@jgizzy so true...everyone is entitled to their own opinion and liking. besides the real car racing is taken place on a TRACK by CAR ENTHUSIAST right or wrong. the streets dont matter the track does however
@krazyA916 My 'right people'? What the hell do you mean by that? I may lean to the right a bit, but there's no need to get all political here. And 'there wrong'? I don't understand what you're saying.
@jgizzy lol thanks. like, my lude is a racecar,for round track. so no seats and lightened up as much as possible. weighed it a few weeks ago and its only 1800. but,doors and stuff are all sheetmetal and stuff. so alot lighter.
@jgizzy my cousin is also putting the h23 vtec in a 91 prelude. hes got the motor mounts and stuff. the older ones handle alot better than the newer ones,and hes doing that.
No whine from the cobra...that dont sound right at all....either way you're talking about almost as much power in a car that is much lighter...I'm not shocked....mod that cobra the the extent that prelude has been, and lose a little weight and the tables would be so turned its not even funny!
@boostedraptor its an 03 cobra. I am a mustang guy it has the proper front bumper and rear bumer but more importantly it has the correct rocker panels which aren't that easy to track down to put on a non cobra.
Guy below me fuck you seriously stop hating! You don't spend 25k to beat a cobra Honda's are really good cars without any modifications a stock Honda with a vteck engine would woop the shit out of you're ride
@MrMustangFan87 Actually he probably spent around $3000 to beat that cobra.. I like cobra's also don't get me wrong but you can spend alot less on a civic and make it go a hell of alot faster then a cobra..
@SketchyMa420 $3000 are you serious??? That Civic probly has a TT ,full exhaust ,tuned ,tires ,intake, gutted interior ,and a lot more.....There is no way anyone can put 3k into a Civic and beat a Cobra
@MrMustangFan87 Okay maybe more then $3000. Probably around 5-6... (B16 Engine) $1800, (Turbo, wastegate, bov, piping, etc.) $2000, (Tune) $500, (Chassis) $1500, (Pistons, Cranks) $750... With a price around $6000.. Also you said "That civic probably has a TT".. I hope you don't mean twin turbo cause quite honestly I haven't seen to many 4cyclinder twin turbo civics around ;)... dumbass
@SketchyMa420 u can smoke a lot of cars with a little civic for cheap but you have to remember that the weight is a big part and i bet that that prelude is stripped down and weighs less than 2000 and 350hp in a 2000lb car is going to be beast.. but also the honda is just another honda this mustang is not just another mustang its a Cobra thats why its a lot more than the Honda.
@MrMustangFan87 you totally know shit about cars. Why are u crying ? the prelude spank that cobra. The thing about fast Honda's you don't have to spend 25k to smoke a simple mustang.
@Chinkstas You are completely fucking stupid if you think a Civic with just 3k put into it would beat an 03 Cobra....thats just it a "SIMPLE MUSTANG" ....This is one of the fastest Mustangs theyve made ,its pure muscle ....anyone who thinks a 3k civic can beat a Cobra needs to just stay away from a keyboard and go to a drag strip for once in their lives
@MrMustangFan87 He spent around 13k on this build. He also made everything custom, and did everything the right way. Why hate? Why not respect the great job he did? And a stock cobra costs about 35k at that time...prices shouldn't be an issue. He spent 1/3 the price of a cobra and ate it.
@LuvMehSi 35k are you crazy??? I can get an 03 Cobra right now for around 18k and its got around 600hp ,I can get a 94-98 Cobra for around 6k ......Idk what state you live in but I suggest you move cause those people are trying rip you off......these prices have been the same in Tennessee since about 2005 and they might be dropping soon
funny as hell...couldn't help but notice the handling difference when looking head-on at the cars when they are side-by-side; You can tell that poor Prelude was never meant to have that much power. Nonetheless, it still put the power to use by beating the Terminator...
That sure looks like a sonic blue terminator to me. Sure the guy could have bought the front bumper cover, side skirts, hood, rear bumper and spoiler and put them on a non 03/04 terminator, but i doubt it. And that prelude is pretty loud. If he doesn't have his cobra pullied or anything, it's not that far fetched that the whine could be drowned out.
@TotalTQ thats why my 2 liter 4 banger put a modified 2010 camaro ss 6.2 liter v8 to shame? "theres no replacement for displacement?" yeah there is, a turbo. end of discussion.
@suckmy4cylinder end of discussion? no son, you just opened it up. if you take displacement, and put a turbo on it, won't it be faster than the smaller displacement with a turbo? owned ricer.
@TotalTQ yeah how long is your v8 going to last under boost? also, how will you gain traction with that radical of a tq increase? while you're still trying to hook up my little sr20det will already be down the track, not to mention how much money will you have to pour into your 350 to hold any boost?
@suckmy4cylinder who said 350?? and a v8 is generally built tougher because more people use them for drag racing. and it will hook up fine with the right driver.
@TotalTQ stock s14 and s15 sr20dets are built to handle 28psi, with that being said stock bottom end will hold 550whp. lets see you throw 28lbs of boost on ANY v8 with stock pistons, crank, etc. it won't handle it.
@suckmy4cylinder right because that motor is BUILT to be put into rice burners. also, the sr20rocketricers are probably expensive to ship, buy, and tune. i could pull a 302 out of an explorer with GT40P heads and turbo it to 15psi. and with a bigger motor, you won't need 20 psi because it is more displacement, a given for more power. why don't i see any top fuelers with 4 bangers?
@TotalTQ sr20dets are only 1200 for red tops and 1500 for the black tops, take that shitty 302 out and put it in what? how long would it hold that 15psi? i know you'll need a rebuild in about 10k miles if you plan on running that much boost in it.
@suckmy4cylinder I may need a rebuild in 10k miles, which i know it will go more. And take your ricer, it won't last as long. do the math. 8thousand RPM vrs 5500. Which has a higher probability to throw a rod? or break itself? The ricer because it is made weaker, spins faster, more boost.
@TotalTQ i don't like v8s because once they're making mad power you have to set up the suspension one way and pretty much one way only, track or drag, and you have to tune it for that as well, with a 4 cylinder with desant power you can have fun at the track or the strip...they're more versatile, also on the way back from virginia with my sr20det going 100mph the whole way back, i averaged 28mpg...lets see you do that with your v8
@TotalTQ also, if you really want to "go there" how would that application be usable on anything other than a drag strip, say if you were to get it to hook up? you couldn't use it anywhere else, bc you'd end up sideways around every corner... heavy ass front end+ tq+light rearend=??? do you need a lesson in physics?
@suckmy4cylinder do you need a lesson in design and arodynamics? make weight in the back. roll cages aren't light, wide tires. son you're going to have to try a lot harder.
@TotalTQ okay, well lets go to power to weight ratio, lets say you take the new camaro thats 3800lbs curb weight or a new stang thats 3500lbs curb weight, correct? maybe gut it down to 3200lbs or so? okay now curb weight for the nissan silvia s14 is 2600lbs gut it down to 2200lbs, with nothing but a boost controller on the silvia s14 it will be at 260rwhp thats a $30 part. hmmm the new camaro is 3500lbs gutted and we'll throw a lightweight driveshaft on it it should put it around 350rwhp...
@suckmy4cylinder you keep talking chevys. fine. take a foxbody mustang, and strip it to 2,500lbs cobra motor, and you're putting down 500hp. take a f250 diesel 7.3, diesels power doesn't drop off like a gasoline so the diesel will be making max power throught the rpm range. you're just giving me what ifs not exact answers. what if i take a top fueler dragster with a supercharged V8 and crush your 4? 0-100 in 1.1 seconds.
@TotalTQ well what if you take a 2jz(supra tt engine) and put it in a corolla gts stripped down to 1600lbs, with nothing but a bigger turbo and injectors you can be at 800rwhp...bye bye mustang?
@suckmy4cylinder Then you have that same issue. one a Supra 2JZ isn't going to fit in a Corolla. Two you have too much weight as you described before. So to answer your question, no bye bye Mustang. Because, the Mustang will be cheaper, open to more mods.
@TotalTQ supra 2jz will fit into ae86 corolla gts, several people have done it, and yeah wheelie bars, or just throw it in a 240, also you think a cobra engine is cheaper than a 2jz? well get a sc300 engine and just beef the internals, or hell do what the guys at jgy did and throw an rb25det in a foxbody or put that in a 240... they have a 90 mustang with a 95 rb25det skyline engine in it running 700rwhp...still bye bye mustang?
@suckmy4cylinder Ok so what if you put the DOHC 5.4 from the GT in a stripped down mustang? Bye Bye corolla. Why talk about hypothetical and situations like this?
@suckmy4cylinder Your missing my point. Why talk about stuff like that? How about we put a top fuel dragster against that 3.7? Its a stupid argument. Also Idk how much Hp or Torque the 3.7 has but the DOHC 5.4 makes 550 hp and close to the same torque.
@Benchimusprime 3.7 puts almost 500 awd hp down nissan makes great drivetrains...just think of the launch, and yeah i get your point, top fuel dragster > any import in a drag race. hands down. you win there. but i wasn't trying to discuss super cars or any of that. i was simply stating that 4 cylinders aren't as junk as all v8 lovers seem to think about.
@suckmy4cylinder True, but for anything done to a smaller motor to gain a performance boost, the same can be done to a V8. Say there are to motors: a 4 cyl and a V8. They are essentially the same, save for the four cylinder difference. Same bore, same stroke, as close to the same cams as can be used, same compression, etc. Sure, you can put a turbo on the 4 cyl to make it faster, But put a turbo on the V8 and the V8 will be faster.
@Benchimusprime This is very true. Then it basically boils down to weight, engine bay space, and fuel mileage. I drive a turbo Prelude, but I'd be more than happy to drive a turbo C4 Corvette.
@suckmy4cylinder True, you can replace displacement with Forced induction but you can always put forced induction on the V8 too. If your going to build a motor from the ground up to make as much power as possible, a bigger motor is always a better starting point as it will have more potential.
@suckmy4cylinder Well Im done talking about it anyway. I couldnt care less about cars actually, V8 or not. I prefers trucks to cars and pulling shit to racing.
@TotalTQ yeah, but when mods are under $30kor so, 4 cylinders can more than keep up...but you saying top fuel dragsters no, they don't stand a chance, the fastest v8 runs 3s fastest 4 cylinder ever 5 seconds, yeah 1/4 mile theres undeniable proof there. if thats your arguement, then my point was missed, i love 4 and 6 cylinders because of the versatility of them. you can take them on a road track, or drag strip...have them set up for both...v8s not so much, not saying you cant.just less likely.
@Benchimusprime v8s aren't as cost effective. you're going to need alot more money for it to be able to handle boost, as to where there are plenty of 4 cylinders and 6 cylinders that were built to handle boost, most of which weren't released in the us.
@Benchimusprime okay, well if you want to take one to a drag strip, you only have $3800 to spend, and "you" couldn't do any internal work to it yourself, you *have* to take it to a shop. what would win? 3800 for frame and everything... i'd get a s13 shell for $500, s14sr20det for $1500 intercooler/exhaust for $600 boost controller for $30 thats $2630 right there... ebay gt28rs turbo $300 250 shot of nitrous $500 for the kit and injectors, and spend $100 to tune it. itsa 10sec car if it hooks up.
@suckmy4cylinder I never said it would be cheaper. I said the larger motor has more potential, I never said it would be cheaper to unlock said potential.
@suckmy4cylinder Better yet, use the 67 Shelby Cobra with the DOHC 427. That car is made 600 hp and close to the same amount of torque 45 years ago! In a 2300 lb car!
@Benchimusprime okay so lets see, a foxbody would be a good frame yes? the trouble would be finding one for cheap, with a rear end that would hold the power...lets say you find one for $800, then you need an engine...ford or chevy? doesn't matter to me...we'll put a 302 in it 302...found a cheap one on craigslist for $800 now you needa rear end...ford 8.5 should do...$500, we're at $2100..ebay turbo kit $1200, exhaust kit $300 boost controller $30...@7psi should be a 12 second car..good try.
@suckmy4cylinder this is wrong. i know guys running an exhaust and a set of 373s that are breakin 12s. a stock motored turbo 5.0 in a fox should be 11s no problem.
@fasst0385 was saying stock rear end...not like you couldn't do that to the import either or anything...besides you wouldn't be able to get any traction. read the rest of the shit.
@fasst0385 yeah with 373s its not going to hook up easy...not only that i was pricing this without a trans btw, find a 5.0 trans thats put together for less than 600...? either way, i'm going on a value, the point is the four cylinder to a certain point shouldn't be under estimated...most ppl that talk shit on here don't even have a "muscle car" they might have a stang or "know somebody" that has something. tired of people talking shit that don't even know what theyre saying
@TotalTQ although i think my buddies mk2(gt40 kit car) is one of the few exceptions, with the 400m putting down 800lbft tq to the wheels, he eats new ford gts 1/4 mile and the speed way and hes n/a...he also smokes the shit out of my sr20det, although i'm only at 374lbft tq and about 1/10th of the money in my car, i keep up with him to 80, and his shit handles better, although thats a supercar, more comparable to a gtr...to each his own.
@TotalTQ its all hypotheticaly speaking on youtube, hell you have no idea who i am, all you know is we're simply stating what you could do with cars, my buddy has a 400m with 800lb feet of tq in a mkII(thats a gt40 kit car) and its fucking fast as shit...i'm not saying v8s are all shit, they're simply better n/a or supercharged, i love my 4 cylinders, power to weights all day over, you could argue with me saying why not import frame + v8 = win and both be happy...but nobody likes seeing this.
Why is the cobra blue in this vid, but in the vid he put in the annotation, you can tell the cobra is either red or orange? Soooo how are you supposed to tell that the blue cobra is supercharged? I believe it is, but hes not showing proof that it is. And Im a prelude owner btw. look at my name.
@tgprelude Two different Cobras. But the overwhelming insinuation from many viewers was that this Cobra is not an 03/04 Terminator and besides not hearing the whine, it "only makes sense since this Prelude couldn't really beat a Terminator." So by showing another video of this same prelude beating an obviously 03/04 Cobra, it puts to rest the charge that this the race was 'rigged' or my title was purposely misleading in order to raise this car's performance ability higher than it should be.
@jgizzy Ahhh got ya. I was wondering why you did that. I know your lude can beat a terminator. This is tony baker's 3rd gen correct? You dont know me but Ive seen plenty about your car on the forums. I know it is beast. Lol. Last I heard you werent boosting the b20's anymore??
@tgprelude No actually my lude cant get out of its own way :-p
Yes this is Tony's Prelude in both videos -- I just posted them so they wouldn't get lost in the internets. They were taken around 2004. I am on PreludePower and my username is car_boy_16. I assume you're on there too? Tony is still running his B20 strong as far as I know from an April 25th post.
@tgprelude Click the link that is in my description. You can hear it from the owner himself about what this car is. Since the thread is from 2004, the link doesn't work any more, but it is the same video.
@chevelleguy1970 And if it was a real 03 cobra, even with the stock eaton you woulda heard that SC whining like a lil ricer bitch who lost his stickers hahaha
@MrSort11 fuck your damn VTAK shit.. ricer... any way.. dude.. it has a damn engine swap.. its not even a lude anymore!! so fuck that.. i wanna see an H22 stock beat a cobra.. stock
@xmodrock Your logic is retarded. It doesn't have ANY engine swap. It has the factory engine (not ALL Preludes had the H22, btw) which Honda people refer to as the "piece of shit" B20A5. That is a 119ci Non-VTEC turd designed in 1986 that put out 135hp stock. The owner added a turbo to his factory engine, put in forged pistons and rods, and that's about it for 'building'.
@xmodrock all mustangs do now is make noise and dont move and the lude is the car not the engine and dont say that preludes suck with their vtec just caouse you cobra lost.
@MrSort11 are you kidding? have you seen the new boss 302? 444HP out of 302 cubes.. its fast as all hell.. :-) i think you need to look up your facts.. us americans now have our own version of your VVVTAAAKKK lmfao ricer.. and the engine makes the car.. :-)
@xmodrock Yeah the Boss Mustang is one bad ass car, no doubt! It even smokes the GT500 is just about every aspect, and embarrasses Germany's champion - the M3. But let's not 'dis' VTEC itself, because that camshaft technology did change the automotive world, and without it this new 5.0 engine would probably have quite a few less ponies under the hood than it does today.
@xmodrock VVT has been around for a very long time, starting application in steam engines in the 1800s. The valves were timed in order to control dynamic steam compression (more steam pressure = more power -- controlled by variable timed valves). I gotta say, I do not know what American invented it in the 1920s, but there were quite a few different manufacturer who had their own type of variable valve timing but most were unreliable, too expensive, and too complex. Honda fixed all that in 1980s.
I hate ricers, but i love tuners and muscle cars, so naturally i love this video, a muscle car vs a tuner. I own an 03 Mach1 but this honda is the shit if it dyno'd at 350whp then DAMN thats sick. And to the ricers, notice this, does the honda have a body kit? spoiler? neons? stickers? no because he spend his money ALL under the hood and thats the way it should be. Unless your either building the shit out of the motor or swapping in a REAL motor (not all vtec motors are fast) your still slow
@dadeuceisloose I cant because it's not my car. It belongs to Tony Baker. You can find him on Preludepower under the name TonyBaker12. Since this video is so old, his new setup has changed significantly.
gayyyyyyyyy video. i didnt hear any whinning from a s/c in this video. yeah sure the video to click on at the end has a s/c obviously, but we would of heard it in this video too then. probably two different cobras. people deck them out to be something they're not. who caressssssssssssss
@paisa1990 That makes no sense. There was no engine swap with this Prelude, it is using the factory 120 cubic inch non-vtec "bastard" b20a5 they came with since 1987.
@jgizzy that b20 did come in the 3rd gen, but the turbo did not. Props for beating the stang. the Honda crap has a bad rep around here the folks who drive them act like they the shizz.
@paisa1990 Yeah I understand that. We have our share of douchebag car guys up in Minnesota too. There's not much in life that a person can do except to rise above the import-vs-domestic fight. It's the same stupidity as the dipshits doing the useless Democrat-vs-Republican show. This car, as you can see, isn't built by a guy who thinks body kits and wings are going to make him cool, he is a true builder who also dabbles with a quicker 3rd gen Camaro.
There is no reason at all to compare Import vs. Domestic.It's all about preference, one is not cooler than the other and your dick is not bigger cause your engine is. SO GET THE FUCK OVER IT!
ejcraft2003 2 weeks ago
THIS is what youtube is supposed to be, hence why its from 2006 when YT didnt suck
67mustangreg 1 month ago
That prelude could have 1000 hp, but i still wouldn't drive it.. looks like a damn piece of shit and sounds like it to go with it.. lol
ukeBrent29 1 month ago
@ukeBrent29 Exactly, that honda is one ugly mf'r and slow factory, it would be lucky to outrun a V6 mustang...
There's nothing like grandma's import with a fart can...
COLT45keith 3 weeks ago
Nether car could beat my built 87 3/4 4x4 suburban it has 3 turbos, 1 blower,nos & meth inj, oh & 5 inter coolers. That puts an end to which ones better.;)
madwooky 2 months ago
@madwooky prelude is better cuz i got a b21a1 3rd gen
redgateproductions 2 months ago
@madwooky pics or vids or it doesnt exist....?
dbl0ck13 1 month ago
cobra, fucking shiit :D, Prelude <33 :P
mopodriver 2 months ago
@mopodriver which one would you drive then? given the opportunity to have either of these cars given to you free of charge. i think we both know your going to choose the superior terminator. if not your a moron.
yfz450mikey 1 month ago
@yfz450mikey Well, the old v8 cars have dreams, but the cobra is a piece of shit.
mopodriver 1 month ago
@yfz450mikey and it's pathetic when the $ 1,500 car to win the second of many thousands more expensive car
mopodriver 1 month ago
@jgizzy this is my favorite song :D
TheMuscleHamster77 2 months ago
my cousins got a round track racecar. stock motor,besides header. cold air intake,falken tires. weighs about 1900. 1 seat,roll cage. EVERYTHING has been cut out interior wise. the piece that goes from left side to ride at the bottom of the back window was cut out also. in between tailights was all cut out. aluminum bumpers weigh in about 8 pounds,and cost him $14. but,bumper cover fits over it. light as you can get it.
KARsandJTsUSERNAME 2 months ago
That Prelude is a freaking sleeper. It weighs less than 2800 lbs so just 300whp can kill a V8.
elr456 2 months ago
FORD = Found ON Road Dead and they circled the problem.
lilreece8990 3 months ago
Looks like fords should just stick to making econmy cars LOL!
TheAfghan72 3 months ago
Rice Rice Baby
3jeez 3 months ago
Let the race do the talking!!!!!
kevo261 3 months ago
i own a inline pro turbo'd s2000.my wife ownS a o3 svt cobra.my car was chosen 4 looks.ill be selling it to get either a 350z and add a turbo or..a 370z.stock vs stock..hands down i used 2 get raped.now i rape my wife.THAT LIL SLUT..lol.a prelude stock or even turbo'd on a stock block still wouldnt beat a03 04 cobra.look.i love imports cause they are just imo nicer..if i had a 2012 gt-r than id talk mad shit..muscle is easier to build.I LOVE IMPORT.I ALSO LOVE AMERICAN..nissan tech
bizzy361 3 months ago
so thats what a 600hp 1 ftlb tq lookes like starting from a 40mph roll....man it might be to much for me so ill stick to my lightning
mooyah36 3 months ago
Super old video of a sick Prelude. Built by Tony with the help of his crew at Notorious Motorsports. Smile and suck it up, we had many cars that have humbled the V8 ego. Many teary eyes in the crowds on those nights. Plus Tonys Z28 is sick also. A man of many talents. V8 or 4 banger. Take your pick . A real driver. And to steelcity, it is a super clean street car, not full blown drag car like was stated earlier. I miss the Notorious, maybe one day the need will arise and I will reopen.
Schwalier74 3 months ago
everyone can bitch about import or muscle, sure. But the bottom line is when you get smoked you get smoked. Props to the Lude. I owned a 95 5.0 and sunk a LOT of money into it, the gearing was much like a 3rd gen Lude in the end with all the power i only did about 120mph but i'd get there fast. One day someone in a fucking ACURA left me in his rear view. I have respect for anyone that can build a "2000lbs trash can" economy car to smoke an american muscle car.
BecomingxThexCorey 3 months ago
@BecomingxThexCorey integra was a built for racingluxury puropses, i don't se how that is econimcal, i think that peice of shit ford was more econmical
TheAfghan72 3 months ago
No, the girl got in the Prelude. Bitches like winners not losers.
msk1911 3 months ago
and in the end the girl still got in the cobra haha
Takeoverartist1987 3 months ago
What's up with people pouring cash into their fwd economy cars? That's about all that prelude is good for, racing from a roll. Give me a stock cobra any day over that 2000 pound trash can
sweettits92 4 months ago
@sweettits92 That is the exact method of the Hot Rod movement -- broke younger people take their shitty/base cars and soup them up with more powerful motors. How did that basic historical truth elude you?
Let me assist you, you will like this article: editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=435974
jgizzy 3 months ago 6
@jgizzy That's beautiful man, let me just say it that's a beautiful way to word that. That's what it's all about, hot rodding the underdogs and blowing the doors off of cars people would think you never could. That's one nasty prelude man, and this is coming from a mustang man lol.
admiraljimmy 3 months ago
@jgizzy would've been full of win if properly linked xD just saying.
and thank you for trying to stop import vs domestic it's really annoying for people like me who genuinely enjoy cars regardless of what country the company is from. I <3 my bb2 (4th gen prelude si) and my z/28
GoDalethirty3 2 months ago
@GoDalethirty3
You're welcome budddy, we need to fight this us-vs-them disease that's in our car culture, it's illogical and a cousin to racism -- I call it Ricism :-P
Z28 huh, what year? Three different times I was close to buying a 4th gen Camaro. An LT1 one, a 3.5 one (eww), and an LS1 -- all automatics though cuz that's all we have up here...
I guess the MSN link has to be copied and pasted for some reason, but the link URL is correct. Gotta paste it into Google search.
jgizzy 2 months ago
@jgizzy 1979 that has all '81 body parts. It's probably getting sold though.
We have a 1968 Chevelle too. Idk if you already saw it but I left a profile msg on preludepower
GoDalethirty3 2 months ago
@sweettits92 hey retard did it ever occur to you that a stock '01 prelude is faster than an audi a4 with the 2.0T, the consensus that honda makes piece of shit cars just wreaks of ignorance, sweet tits.
domeracer666 3 months ago
@domeracer666 anything is faster than a stock 2.0t a4 there garbage
dbl0ck13 3 months ago
@sweettits92 lol your name already is fucked up thats why you would chose a car like a fucking shitty cobra.. a prelude would shit on that car all the time ;)
Demolutionguy 3 months ago
@Demolutionguy A Cobra (especially 03-04!) is not shitty, nor would "a Prelude" shit on that car all the time...geez people, stop with this domestic vs import bullshit....It's almost as pathetic is Democrat vs Republican debates.
jgizzy 3 months ago 13
@jgizzy except import vs domestic is much more important
nickmorganmusic 3 months ago
@jgizzy so true...everyone is entitled to their own opinion and liking. besides the real car racing is taken place on a TRACK by CAR ENTHUSIAST right or wrong. the streets dont matter the track does however
lilreece8990 3 months ago
@jgizzy yeah your right people should just all agree that import cars are faster..if they dont then there wrong. point blank.
krazyA916 2 months ago
@krazyA916 My 'right people'? What the hell do you mean by that? I may lean to the right a bit, but there's no need to get all political here. And 'there wrong'? I don't understand what you're saying.
jgizzy 2 months ago
@jgizzy i meant. "yeah your right", people should just all agree
krazyA916 2 months ago
@krazyA916 Ohh! lol sorry man, I was reading that in a very different way. Gotcha
jgizzy 2 months ago
@krazyA916 yes your very right haha
yfz450mikey 1 month ago
@sweettits92 FORD = Fucker Only Rolls Down hill...get a honda :))))
CirrusLX 3 months ago
@sweettits92 sir. mine weighs 1800. and it beat a COBRA. the lude only gets about 20 mpg.
KARsandJTsUSERNAME 2 months ago
@KARsandJTsUSERNAME Try 2700lbs for your 91 Prelude -- funny ass videos btw, the ice cream cone "grab" had me rollin
jgizzy 2 months ago
@jgizzy lol thanks. like, my lude is a racecar,for round track. so no seats and lightened up as much as possible. weighed it a few weeks ago and its only 1800. but,doors and stuff are all sheetmetal and stuff. so alot lighter.
KARsandJTsUSERNAME 2 months ago
@jgizzy my cousin is also putting the h23 vtec in a 91 prelude. hes got the motor mounts and stuff. the older ones handle alot better than the newer ones,and hes doing that.
KARsandJTsUSERNAME 2 months ago
@KARsandJTsUSERNAME Are you on PreludePower? I'm Car_boy_16 on there.
jgizzy 2 months ago
@jgizzy im not,but i might make on later,il add you
KARsandJTsUSERNAME 2 months ago
heavily modded prelude beats barely modded cobra
Storm7289 4 months ago
No whine from the cobra...that dont sound right at all....either way you're talking about almost as much power in a car that is much lighter...I'm not shocked....mod that cobra the the extent that prelude has been, and lose a little weight and the tables would be so turned its not even funny!
Burgeezy 4 months ago
that prelude is so uglyyy lmaoo
Sel3151 4 months ago
not an 03 cobra, its before the 03 - 04 or youd here the s/c whinning for sure
boostedraptor 5 months ago
@boostedraptor its an 03 cobra. I am a mustang guy it has the proper front bumper and rear bumer but more importantly it has the correct rocker panels which aren't that easy to track down to put on a non cobra.
NitroGadvRules 5 months ago
In the end that prelude is still a FWD Car which = Fail.
106MMTurbo 5 months ago
@106MMTurbo and in the end you just watched a FWD car BEAT a RWD V8 so the only fail I can see is your judgement.
insatiableTy 5 months ago
I was told that Cobras never lose, it is just a myth. What is going on here? I do not understand.
dobbins2550 5 months ago
@dobbins2550 hahahaha
J90lude 3 months ago
looks blue to me
MrPhantompants 6 months ago
Guy below me fuck you seriously stop hating! You don't spend 25k to beat a cobra Honda's are really good cars without any modifications a stock Honda with a vteck engine would woop the shit out of you're ride
paterson1919 6 months ago
@paterson1919 LMAOO your on drugs!!
QuietStorrm860 6 months ago
@paterson1919 lol stock hondas with vtec at most do 15's hahah
83estrada 5 months ago
You probly spent over 25k to beat an almost stock Cobra....way to go honda owners!!! You really showed us how to waste money
MrMustangFan87 6 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 Actually he probably spent around $3000 to beat that cobra.. I like cobra's also don't get me wrong but you can spend alot less on a civic and make it go a hell of alot faster then a cobra..
SketchyMa420 5 months ago
@SketchyMa420 $3000 are you serious??? That Civic probly has a TT ,full exhaust ,tuned ,tires ,intake, gutted interior ,and a lot more.....There is no way anyone can put 3k into a Civic and beat a Cobra
MrMustangFan87 5 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 Okay maybe more then $3000. Probably around 5-6... (B16 Engine) $1800, (Turbo, wastegate, bov, piping, etc.) $2000, (Tune) $500, (Chassis) $1500, (Pistons, Cranks) $750... With a price around $6000.. Also you said "That civic probably has a TT".. I hope you don't mean twin turbo cause quite honestly I haven't seen to many 4cyclinder twin turbo civics around ;)... dumbass
SketchyMa420 5 months ago
@SketchyMa420 u can smoke a lot of cars with a little civic for cheap but you have to remember that the weight is a big part and i bet that that prelude is stripped down and weighs less than 2000 and 350hp in a 2000lb car is going to be beast.. but also the honda is just another honda this mustang is not just another mustang its a Cobra thats why its a lot more than the Honda.
83estrada 5 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 you totally know shit about cars. Why are u crying ? the prelude spank that cobra. The thing about fast Honda's you don't have to spend 25k to smoke a simple mustang.
Chinkstas 5 months ago
@Chinkstas You are completely fucking stupid if you think a Civic with just 3k put into it would beat an 03 Cobra....thats just it a "SIMPLE MUSTANG" ....This is one of the fastest Mustangs theyve made ,its pure muscle ....anyone who thinks a 3k civic can beat a Cobra needs to just stay away from a keyboard and go to a drag strip for once in their lives
MrMustangFan87 5 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 He spent around 13k on this build. He also made everything custom, and did everything the right way. Why hate? Why not respect the great job he did? And a stock cobra costs about 35k at that time...prices shouldn't be an issue. He spent 1/3 the price of a cobra and ate it.
Peace bro, and try not to troll next time.
LuvMehSi 4 months ago
@LuvMehSi 35k are you crazy??? I can get an 03 Cobra right now for around 18k and its got around 600hp ,I can get a 94-98 Cobra for around 6k ......Idk what state you live in but I suggest you move cause those people are trying rip you off......these prices have been the same in Tennessee since about 2005 and they might be dropping soon
MrMustangFan87 4 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 I said "costs around 35k AT THAT TIME" the video was shot in 04.
LuvMehSi 4 months ago
@LuvMehSi 5 years ago would be 2006 which is what i said on the prices. 18k was in the prices
MrMustangFan87 4 months ago
@MrMustangFan87the actual race was in 04. Read the actual thread, from the people who actually raced. K? Stop trolling.
peace
LuvMehSi 4 months ago
@tapmasterflex You're a complete dipshit. *deleted*
jgizzy 6 months ago
@jgizzy YA BUT UR A FAGGITT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH plus my vette will rape you , u mad bro?
tapmasterflex 6 months ago
funny as hell...couldn't help but notice the handling difference when looking head-on at the cars when they are side-by-side; You can tell that poor Prelude was never meant to have that much power. Nonetheless, it still put the power to use by beating the Terminator...
Chris17psi 6 months ago
This video is my favorite out of all the racing videos on Youtube, perfect patch up, perfect song. Amazing
truetoheart44 7 months ago
That sure looks like a sonic blue terminator to me. Sure the guy could have bought the front bumper cover, side skirts, hood, rear bumper and spoiler and put them on a non 03/04 terminator, but i doubt it. And that prelude is pretty loud. If he doesn't have his cobra pullied or anything, it's not that far fetched that the whine could be drowned out.
mechsuit80 7 months ago
i hear no whine, thats probably a 99-02 cobra...the one in the link is orange or red...either way good job beatin it, 4 banger ftw.
suckmy4cylinder 7 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder 4 bangers suck.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ thats why my 2 liter 4 banger put a modified 2010 camaro ss 6.2 liter v8 to shame? "theres no replacement for displacement?" yeah there is, a turbo. end of discussion.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder end of discussion? no son, you just opened it up. if you take displacement, and put a turbo on it, won't it be faster than the smaller displacement with a turbo? owned ricer.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ yeah how long is your v8 going to last under boost? also, how will you gain traction with that radical of a tq increase? while you're still trying to hook up my little sr20det will already be down the track, not to mention how much money will you have to pour into your 350 to hold any boost?
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder who said 350?? and a v8 is generally built tougher because more people use them for drag racing. and it will hook up fine with the right driver.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ stock s14 and s15 sr20dets are built to handle 28psi, with that being said stock bottom end will hold 550whp. lets see you throw 28lbs of boost on ANY v8 with stock pistons, crank, etc. it won't handle it.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder right because that motor is BUILT to be put into rice burners. also, the sr20rocketricers are probably expensive to ship, buy, and tune. i could pull a 302 out of an explorer with GT40P heads and turbo it to 15psi. and with a bigger motor, you won't need 20 psi because it is more displacement, a given for more power. why don't i see any top fuelers with 4 bangers?
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ sr20dets are only 1200 for red tops and 1500 for the black tops, take that shitty 302 out and put it in what? how long would it hold that 15psi? i know you'll need a rebuild in about 10k miles if you plan on running that much boost in it.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder I may need a rebuild in 10k miles, which i know it will go more. And take your ricer, it won't last as long. do the math. 8thousand RPM vrs 5500. Which has a higher probability to throw a rod? or break itself? The ricer because it is made weaker, spins faster, more boost.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ i don't like v8s because once they're making mad power you have to set up the suspension one way and pretty much one way only, track or drag, and you have to tune it for that as well, with a 4 cylinder with desant power you can have fun at the track or the strip...they're more versatile, also on the way back from virginia with my sr20det going 100mph the whole way back, i averaged 28mpg...lets see you do that with your v8
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@TotalTQ wow with heads done you're expecting to only be running at 5500rpms?
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@TotalTQ and yeah you're right you won't see any top fuelers with 4 bangers.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@TotalTQ also, if you really want to "go there" how would that application be usable on anything other than a drag strip, say if you were to get it to hook up? you couldn't use it anywhere else, bc you'd end up sideways around every corner... heavy ass front end+ tq+light rearend=??? do you need a lesson in physics?
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder do you need a lesson in design and arodynamics? make weight in the back. roll cages aren't light, wide tires. son you're going to have to try a lot harder.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ okay, well lets go to power to weight ratio, lets say you take the new camaro thats 3800lbs curb weight or a new stang thats 3500lbs curb weight, correct? maybe gut it down to 3200lbs or so? okay now curb weight for the nissan silvia s14 is 2600lbs gut it down to 2200lbs, with nothing but a boost controller on the silvia s14 it will be at 260rwhp thats a $30 part. hmmm the new camaro is 3500lbs gutted and we'll throw a lightweight driveshaft on it it should put it around 350rwhp...
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder you keep talking chevys. fine. take a foxbody mustang, and strip it to 2,500lbs cobra motor, and you're putting down 500hp. take a f250 diesel 7.3, diesels power doesn't drop off like a gasoline so the diesel will be making max power throught the rpm range. you're just giving me what ifs not exact answers. what if i take a top fueler dragster with a supercharged V8 and crush your 4? 0-100 in 1.1 seconds.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ well what if you take a 2jz(supra tt engine) and put it in a corolla gts stripped down to 1600lbs, with nothing but a bigger turbo and injectors you can be at 800rwhp...bye bye mustang?
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Then you have that same issue. one a Supra 2JZ isn't going to fit in a Corolla. Two you have too much weight as you described before. So to answer your question, no bye bye Mustang. Because, the Mustang will be cheaper, open to more mods.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ supra 2jz will fit into ae86 corolla gts, several people have done it, and yeah wheelie bars, or just throw it in a 240, also you think a cobra engine is cheaper than a 2jz? well get a sc300 engine and just beef the internals, or hell do what the guys at jgy did and throw an rb25det in a foxbody or put that in a 240... they have a 90 mustang with a 95 rb25det skyline engine in it running 700rwhp...still bye bye mustang?
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Ok so what if you put the DOHC 5.4 from the GT in a stripped down mustang? Bye Bye corolla. Why talk about hypothetical and situations like this?
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@Benchimusprime put the twin turbo 3.7 from the gtr in a 240, bye bye mustang?
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Twin turbo the new Mustang 5.0 and bye bye 240?
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ then we're back to the 2jz 240...anywho. i'm done.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder I will take you saying you're done, that I won, and that I am right.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ no, i didn't realise i was talking to 2 people.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Your missing my point. Why talk about stuff like that? How about we put a top fuel dragster against that 3.7? Its a stupid argument. Also Idk how much Hp or Torque the 3.7 has but the DOHC 5.4 makes 550 hp and close to the same torque.
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@Benchimusprime 3.7 puts almost 500 awd hp down nissan makes great drivetrains...just think of the launch, and yeah i get your point, top fuel dragster > any import in a drag race. hands down. you win there. but i wasn't trying to discuss super cars or any of that. i was simply stating that 4 cylinders aren't as junk as all v8 lovers seem to think about.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder True, but for anything done to a smaller motor to gain a performance boost, the same can be done to a V8. Say there are to motors: a 4 cyl and a V8. They are essentially the same, save for the four cylinder difference. Same bore, same stroke, as close to the same cams as can be used, same compression, etc. Sure, you can put a turbo on the 4 cyl to make it faster, But put a turbo on the V8 and the V8 will be faster.
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@Benchimusprime This is very true. Then it basically boils down to weight, engine bay space, and fuel mileage. I drive a turbo Prelude, but I'd be more than happy to drive a turbo C4 Corvette.
Hayamate 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder True, you can replace displacement with Forced induction but you can always put forced induction on the V8 too. If your going to build a motor from the ground up to make as much power as possible, a bigger motor is always a better starting point as it will have more potential.
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@Benchimusprime read my comments to total tq, i've spent more than enough time stating this.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Well Im done talking about it anyway. I couldnt care less about cars actually, V8 or not. I prefers trucks to cars and pulling shit to racing.
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder My point is, V8's have more potential.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@TotalTQ yeah, but when mods are under $30kor so, 4 cylinders can more than keep up...but you saying top fuel dragsters no, they don't stand a chance, the fastest v8 runs 3s fastest 4 cylinder ever 5 seconds, yeah 1/4 mile theres undeniable proof there. if thats your arguement, then my point was missed, i love 4 and 6 cylinders because of the versatility of them. you can take them on a road track, or drag strip...have them set up for both...v8s not so much, not saying you cant.just less likely.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@Benchimusprime v8s aren't as cost effective. you're going to need alot more money for it to be able to handle boost, as to where there are plenty of 4 cylinders and 6 cylinders that were built to handle boost, most of which weren't released in the us.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Depends how they are built.
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@Benchimusprime okay, well if you want to take one to a drag strip, you only have $3800 to spend, and "you" couldn't do any internal work to it yourself, you *have* to take it to a shop. what would win? 3800 for frame and everything... i'd get a s13 shell for $500, s14sr20det for $1500 intercooler/exhaust for $600 boost controller for $30 thats $2630 right there... ebay gt28rs turbo $300 250 shot of nitrous $500 for the kit and injectors, and spend $100 to tune it. itsa 10sec car if it hooks up.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder I never said it would be cheaper. I said the larger motor has more potential, I never said it would be cheaper to unlock said potential.
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Better yet, use the 67 Shelby Cobra with the DOHC 427. That car is made 600 hp and close to the same amount of torque 45 years ago! In a 2300 lb car!
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@Benchimusprime okay so lets see, a foxbody would be a good frame yes? the trouble would be finding one for cheap, with a rear end that would hold the power...lets say you find one for $800, then you need an engine...ford or chevy? doesn't matter to me...we'll put a 302 in it 302...found a cheap one on craigslist for $800 now you needa rear end...ford 8.5 should do...$500, we're at $2100..ebay turbo kit $1200, exhaust kit $300 boost controller $30...@7psi should be a 12 second car..good try.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Whats your point?
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder this is wrong. i know guys running an exhaust and a set of 373s that are breakin 12s. a stock motored turbo 5.0 in a fox should be 11s no problem.
fasst0385 6 months ago
@fasst0385 was saying stock rear end...not like you couldn't do that to the import either or anything...besides you wouldn't be able to get any traction. read the rest of the shit.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@fasst0385 yeah with 373s its not going to hook up easy...not only that i was pricing this without a trans btw, find a 5.0 trans thats put together for less than 600...? either way, i'm going on a value, the point is the four cylinder to a certain point shouldn't be under estimated...most ppl that talk shit on here don't even have a "muscle car" they might have a stang or "know somebody" that has something. tired of people talking shit that don't even know what theyre saying
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@TotalTQ jgycustoms.(om check out the stang.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@TotalTQ although i think my buddies mk2(gt40 kit car) is one of the few exceptions, with the 400m putting down 800lbft tq to the wheels, he eats new ford gts 1/4 mile and the speed way and hes n/a...he also smokes the shit out of my sr20det, although i'm only at 374lbft tq and about 1/10th of the money in my car, i keep up with him to 80, and his shit handles better, although thats a supercar, more comparable to a gtr...to each his own.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@TotalTQ its all hypotheticaly speaking on youtube, hell you have no idea who i am, all you know is we're simply stating what you could do with cars, my buddy has a 400m with 800lb feet of tq in a mkII(thats a gt40 kit car) and its fucking fast as shit...i'm not saying v8s are all shit, they're simply better n/a or supercharged, i love my 4 cylinders, power to weights all day over, you could argue with me saying why not import frame + v8 = win and both be happy...but nobody likes seeing this.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Eh, I'd like a Domestic car personaly because I live in America. But seeing a 350 Civic would be nice, I will give you that.
TotalTQ 6 months ago
@suckmy4cylinder Who cares about street racing? Drag racing is the only racing that matters.
Benchimusprime 6 months ago
@TotalTQ just do the math.
suckmy4cylinder 6 months ago
Why is the cobra blue in this vid, but in the vid he put in the annotation, you can tell the cobra is either red or orange? Soooo how are you supposed to tell that the blue cobra is supercharged? I believe it is, but hes not showing proof that it is. And Im a prelude owner btw. look at my name.
tgprelude 7 months ago 6
@tgprelude Two different Cobras. But the overwhelming insinuation from many viewers was that this Cobra is not an 03/04 Terminator and besides not hearing the whine, it "only makes sense since this Prelude couldn't really beat a Terminator." So by showing another video of this same prelude beating an obviously 03/04 Cobra, it puts to rest the charge that this the race was 'rigged' or my title was purposely misleading in order to raise this car's performance ability higher than it should be.
jgizzy 7 months ago
@jgizzy Ahhh got ya. I was wondering why you did that. I know your lude can beat a terminator. This is tony baker's 3rd gen correct? You dont know me but Ive seen plenty about your car on the forums. I know it is beast. Lol. Last I heard you werent boosting the b20's anymore??
tgprelude 7 months ago
@tgprelude No actually my lude cant get out of its own way :-p
Yes this is Tony's Prelude in both videos -- I just posted them so they wouldn't get lost in the internets. They were taken around 2004. I am on PreludePower and my username is car_boy_16. I assume you're on there too? Tony is still running his B20 strong as far as I know from an April 25th post.
jgizzy 7 months ago
@tgprelude Click the link that is in my description. You can hear it from the owner himself about what this car is. Since the thread is from 2004, the link doesn't work any more, but it is the same video.
jgizzy 7 months ago
@xmodrock I have an 89 lude with the 4ws b20a5 stock not all ludes came with the h22.
urskills 8 months ago
VTEC KING OF DRAG rustang king of garbage SPANKED!!!!!
BSERIOUSVTEC 8 months ago
@BSERIOUSVTEC No VTEC on this Prelude. Old-school DOHC
jgizzy 8 months ago
@chevelleguy1970 And if it was a real 03 cobra, even with the stock eaton you woulda heard that SC whining like a lil ricer bitch who lost his stickers hahaha
Shawnpmetal 8 months ago
Now thats a 50,000 FAIL
TheBoss00000 8 months ago
the preludes came with a H22 didn't they? so the lude needed an engine swap and turbo kit to beat a cobra with what? a throttle body... oh dear
xmodrock 8 months ago
@xmodrock yea but the h22a have vtec and that will really help in a race.
MrSort11 8 months ago
@MrSort11 fuck your damn VTAK shit.. ricer... any way.. dude.. it has a damn engine swap.. its not even a lude anymore!! so fuck that.. i wanna see an H22 stock beat a cobra.. stock
xmodrock 8 months ago
@xmodrock Your logic is retarded. It doesn't have ANY engine swap. It has the factory engine (not ALL Preludes had the H22, btw) which Honda people refer to as the "piece of shit" B20A5. That is a 119ci Non-VTEC turd designed in 1986 that put out 135hp stock. The owner added a turbo to his factory engine, put in forged pistons and rods, and that's about it for 'building'.
jgizzy 8 months ago
@xmodrock all mustangs do now is make noise and dont move and the lude is the car not the engine and dont say that preludes suck with their vtec just caouse you cobra lost.
MrSort11 8 months ago
@MrSort11 are you kidding? have you seen the new boss 302? 444HP out of 302 cubes.. its fast as all hell.. :-) i think you need to look up your facts.. us americans now have our own version of your VVVTAAAKKK lmfao ricer.. and the engine makes the car.. :-)
xmodrock 8 months ago
@xmodrock Yeah the Boss Mustang is one bad ass car, no doubt! It even smokes the GT500 is just about every aspect, and embarrasses Germany's champion - the M3. But let's not 'dis' VTEC itself, because that camshaft technology did change the automotive world, and without it this new 5.0 engine would probably have quite a few less ponies under the hood than it does today.
jgizzy 8 months ago
@jgizzy yea but lets not forget who invented it and when... it was invented in america in the 1920's.. google it
xmodrock 8 months ago
@xmodrock VVT has been around for a very long time, starting application in steam engines in the 1800s. The valves were timed in order to control dynamic steam compression (more steam pressure = more power -- controlled by variable timed valves). I gotta say, I do not know what American invented it in the 1920s, but there were quite a few different manufacturer who had their own type of variable valve timing but most were unreliable, too expensive, and too complex. Honda fixed all that in 1980s.
jgizzy 8 months ago
@jgizzy honda applied it... i believe chrysler simplified it and NEVER USED IT... cause chrysler sucks... and they still don't use it..
xmodrock 8 months ago
@xmodrock I never heard of Chrysler doing that. Weird. Can you offer me a link to read about this?
jgizzy 8 months ago
@jgizzy its on Wikipedia ;-)
xmodrock 8 months ago
@xmodrock you have to remember how thong the 1/4 mile is sure it maybe fast but how long does it take to build up the power
MrSort11 8 months ago
@MrSort11 build power? the boss 302 is all motor.. it doesn't wait for turbo spool like ur honda ;-) the boss don't even have a super charger
xmodrock 8 months ago
@xmodrock well give me the name of the boss so i can look it up
MrSort11 8 months ago
@MrSort11 He is talking about the all-new 2012 Mustang Boss 302. There is a more racy version of it even -- called the Laguna Seca Boss.
jgizzy 8 months ago
Props to both cars. Im a Huge Cobra fan! And its hard saying this to a Honda, but you got to give respect when and were its needed. PERIOD.
redrosecross 9 months ago
I hate ricers, but i love tuners and muscle cars, so naturally i love this video, a muscle car vs a tuner. I own an 03 Mach1 but this honda is the shit if it dyno'd at 350whp then DAMN thats sick. And to the ricers, notice this, does the honda have a body kit? spoiler? neons? stickers? no because he spend his money ALL under the hood and thats the way it should be. Unless your either building the shit out of the motor or swapping in a REAL motor (not all vtec motors are fast) your still slow
frozendrake 9 months ago
wow, not often do you see a small Honda beat a Cobra's ass, awesome!
95stangdude 9 months ago
Everytime a Mustang wins, they make excuses. Get over it. Grow up.
TheVidRater007 9 months ago
@dadeuceisloose I cant because it's not my car. It belongs to Tony Baker. You can find him on Preludepower under the name TonyBaker12. Since this video is so old, his new setup has changed significantly.
jgizzy 10 months ago
gayyyyyyyyy video. i didnt hear any whinning from a s/c in this video. yeah sure the video to click on at the end has a s/c obviously, but we would of heard it in this video too then. probably two different cobras. people deck them out to be something they're not. who caressssssssssssss
Mustang2160 10 months ago
@Mustang2160 wow your the only one who didnt hear the supercharger then
JD97897 9 months ago
@chevelleguy1970 Didn't you watch the whole 13 seconds? At 0:11, you can clearly see the integrated spoiler brake light when he applies the brakes.
jgizzy 10 months ago 2
@jgizzy I watched the video, about six times, and I spy no integrated spoiler break light. No offense.
TheSaneDrummer 9 months ago
well thats great now drop a supercharged 450 in the cobra to make things even:D
since the prelude went through a turbo/engine swap
paisa1990 10 months ago
@paisa1990 That makes no sense. There was no engine swap with this Prelude, it is using the factory 120 cubic inch non-vtec "bastard" b20a5 they came with since 1987.
jgizzy 10 months ago
@jgizzy that b20 did come in the 3rd gen, but the turbo did not. Props for beating the stang. the Honda crap has a bad rep around here the folks who drive them act like they the shizz.
paisa1990 10 months ago
@paisa1990 Yeah I understand that. We have our share of douchebag car guys up in Minnesota too. There's not much in life that a person can do except to rise above the import-vs-domestic fight. It's the same stupidity as the dipshits doing the useless Democrat-vs-Republican show. This car, as you can see, isn't built by a guy who thinks body kits and wings are going to make him cool, he is a true builder who also dabbles with a quicker 3rd gen Camaro.
jgizzy 10 months ago
@jgizzy thats the car love we need to see more off u know. i get yah. good 2 know there is still true gear heads out there. PEACE
paisa1990 10 months ago
@paisa1990 excuses
TheVidRater007 9 months ago
@TheVidRater007 get a life? kit
paisa1990 9 months ago
Cobra wins on looks alone. I was expecting Christopher Loyd to jump out of that Honda.
MustangJosh23 10 months ago
Love to see fords come in second
jonb5024life88 10 months ago 3