peter joseph funded zeitgeist. he has worked in advertisements and the stock market. this is a non profit therefore i cant imagine joseph being as rich as he was before he started this.
A bunch of Alex Jones sheeple and Peter Joseph sheeple who think they're so much smarter than the masses, even though they have a very hard time figuring things on their own, AND THEY'RE MISSING PURE COMEDY GOLD EVEN IF IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES.
@SlipAllCityToy Do you realize how hypocritical you sound by saying that? It speaks of pure arrogance to just lump everyone who listens to Joeseph or Jones into a collective pile of sheeple. You're so enlightened to tell us what you've figured out from your own research and a direction to take in a broken society? You're clearly smarter than the masses of alternitive media hordes. If anything here is "pure comedic gold" it's your comment.
No, I didn't say that listening to AJ or PJ makes them sheeple, I listen to them both, I was talking about the comments.
This video is hilarious, and the people that are blindly obsessed with either one of them are clearly missing the pure hilarity, because the video is about them arguing, which I guess creates kind of a idiocracy-feeling to it.
I'm glad that you found my comment funny, but you have a weird way to react to funny things, I think.
@SlipAllCityToy Oh I see, I thought you were just making a blind insult to their listeners, my apologies. I see people making comments like this all the time but they're usually misled by mainstream media. I find it to be a good rule of thumb to be open and objective to all forms of media. It's the ones who think Fox, MSNBC, CNN and so forth can do no wrong that bother me.
Actually, Alex's notion that competition is the natural state of human behavior is nonsense for the most part. The only reason the human species, or any other species which we're aware of have survived this long is precisely due to NOT competing and working collectively. Yes, I said it "collectively". That means 'together as a group'. Period. This is a non-issue. So, the notion that competition is a good thing, which it may be true in chess, simply has nothing whatsoever to do with human sustain
Alex Jones gets completely owned, for no other reason than he's right. You know the truth when you hear it. You don't need any convincing of the truth.
When you think of every race in the world, you know that deep down inside, a biased religion, will not work for us...what we need to accept is that these stories in the bible only put out metaphorical truths. We need to abide by the "moral values" of the stories but we shouldn't be square about it. Its time for change. The tradition needs to evolve, universally.
Peter Joesph's idealism will come to fruition soon. Generally speaking the Earth's shifts will decide our future. We will be forced to make changes. It will happen because of what's ABOVE & BEYOND. Simple as that.
@zoulkyud Unfortunately, you are right. The Venus project is impossible due to the core nature of humans. All people can't be peacefull at all times, that is, for long periods of time.. Yet, I don't think it's a fraud, it's just a useless hope, a someones idea or perspective of the perfect world that, however, can NEVER be accomplished..
@TheBeastAC correct. its in the dna to survive. thats why even if they take away 99% of the crime, that 1% that goes rampart and can form crimes be unstopable since there is no police in the venus project proves this.
the only way is to change genes so that violence is impossible, and even THEN you need machines that are hardwired in the brain and cant be removed that check people incase they do something that is harmful to others. the road to hell is paved with good intentions, this machine f-
A society that believes in total peace is non-existent. Anyone internally or outside of this society could conquer and destroy it. Look at the native Americans for example and many other historically peaceful cultures. They are destroyed when outsider seek to do them harm.
The venus project is impossible on so many levels.
The point of it all is that I like Alex Jones and Peter Joseph who have alternative ideas instead of business as usual. Although I don't agree with everything that Alex Jones and Peter Joseph say, I do appreciate their intellectual stimulus. Instead of fighting each other. I suggest Alex Jones, Peter Joseph, Short Changed, Truth Seekers, Anonymous,. Gerald Clemente, David Ike, Judge Napolitano, and others should unite and collaborate, which would be much more beneficial.
@VerseInfinitum it wont let me thumbs up your comment.. So instead ill just say its the point im trying to get across to all the people being divided over pety differences, confusion and miscommunication.
Alex is kind of a disinformer, but i think he may be right about global warming though, so many versions and opinions about it, hard to know who to believe in.
@TheDarkFenix Well they all agree the ocean gyres will slow down around 60% if not more, limiting heat distribution. This equates to global climate instability, (hot regions hotter, cold regions colder, major monsoons in already wet areas and longer, worse droughts in others) and all that fun stuff. There are variations, but only on what regions will get hit the worst, which hopefully will never become a reality anyway.
I cannot even begin to tell you how much of a fraud Alex Jones is. Keep in mind Light can be deceptive but sound never lies, and he sounds highly suspicious.
peter joseph is an idealist. I won't say his ideas are complete bullshit, but what if there's people who don't want to be part of his system and want to work. He has to deal with these problems
@AustereAustrian um, where does peter joseph say you have to stop working? you obviously did not watch Zeitgeist: Moving Forward. he says under his proposed system/ideas, people would VOLUNTARILY work for the betterment of the human species. please stop making comments when you haven't reviewed the material properly kthanks
@markuskentwood : Hello brother. I think that this interview regards the movie "Zeitgeist Addendum" and not the movie Zeitgeist: Moving forward. In Zeitgeist Addendum, if i havnt got the movies confused, he says something about that when people dont have to work, they will start thinking about other things instead.
I like both Alex Jones and Peter Joseph for the fact that they are striving to make the world a better place to live in.
. both of them can be "too much" at times. Peace n Love
lmao they're trying to position themselves at the top because their social structure is failing? Whatever happened to "the object of power is power" as he so eloquently quoted Orwell as saying in zeitgeist updated. No, tyranny asserts itself for the object of acheiving power. "if the people ever allow the banks to gain control of the money supply the banks that will grow up around them will deprive them of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conqu
im glad to hear he agreed with 90% of the movie, personlly i dont belive the point of religion is to belive in the magic space daddy. but the point of religion is philosiphy to question the meaning of existance to question the difference between right and wrong
@idasputum@vire70 the arguments used are erroneous. You are watching some debunking video from the Christian community. The Venus project is called what it is because it is based in Venus Florida - now, it does not take a genius to work that out.
As for new world order, do you know what that even is? Clearly you do not.
The zeitgeist movement is not in the mainstream news. TZM does however appear on independent news channels such as RT.
@vire70 the arguments used are erroneous. You are watching some debunking video from the Christian community. The Venus project is called what it is because it is based in Venus Florida - now, it does not take a genius to work that out.
As for new world order, do you know what that even is? Clearly you do not.
The zeitgeist movement is not in the mainstream news. TZM does however appear on independent news channels such as RT.
Lmao, Jones is a superstitious/religion sheltering dumbass who needs to improve his knowledge of the weak arguments presented in favor of a higher power/god. These religious scum sicken me.
Screaming louder and having the finger on the silence button while pushing the god envelope does not make a person right , Alex should grow up and learn the art of a fair interview...ie. ask a question and allow the other to answer without interrupting/ yelling down the mic or hitting the mute button on his guest. If you were listening as a person without bias for either guy, it was handled very badly by Alex.
Ya, anyone who starts talking about using science to fix the ills of the world is forgetting about all the times bogus "science" has been used to back up whacked out ideologies; such as claiming the world will end because of global warming and that one racial group is superior through belief in eugenics. This guy wants everything planned out for you. Alex is right, who is going to make these decisions? A text book or spread sheet can't be elected president.
@JamesRideout123 New Age mythology? I haven't heard him speak of any... unless you mean him promoting The Venus Project, which seems better to me than our current form of government.
@JamesRideout123 If by Satanist you mean Luciferian then yes. But Satanist as far as Anton LaVey then no. Two totally different things. As a non-believer I don't take part in "Luciferian" practices or "Devil Worship". However I know enough about these belief systems. LaVey's doctrine being interesting.
@ahhhhjjjj The very fact that you find LaVey interesting is evidence of how little you know about Satanic worship. I would not regard any cult that murders children as interesting. I might view it as repulsive. You should study Madam Blavatsky and what she represented. The New Age cults have their base in Satanic or false miracles.
@JamesRideout123 You completely misunderstood what I meant by interesting. It is interesting doctrine for what it is when compared to other religious and even theistic doctrines. I do not agree with Anton LaVey but I also don't agree with Hitler but if you're going to tell me that Nazi history isn't interesting then I think we are using two totally different terms. Why are you trying to sell me that New Age is Satanic? I don't care if it's a flaming Buddha I still don't believe what they believe
@JamesRideout123 In other words. I'm not a New Ager. The only new "age" I recognize is that of astronomical significance not astrological. New Ideology does just what Christian Ideology does: it removes personal responsible and eliminates well rounded progress. I don't in any way think that The Venus Project is New Age. It's goal is practical egalitarianism. It is an experiment is self sustainability.
@ahhhhjjjj No Roman Catholicism doesn't teach against being responsible it teaches that people should be responsible for their actions. It teaches that we should be merciful. Although God can at times be non-merciful to Sinners it never teaches that its disciples should be non-merciful. Where in Evolution is Mercy taught? The New Age is Satanic because it has its basis in false miracles. False miracles is Satanic doctrine. Jesus himself warned of false miracles.
@JamesRideout123 By Vicarious redemption? Throwing your sins onto to another? Where in Gravity is mercy taught? Where in Quantum Mechanics is mercy taught? Special Relativity? What about Germ Theory? Is there mercy in that? Evolution is a scientific fact. It has nothing to do with "philosophy". Only social Darwinists want to model society after evolution. The Church has been a burden on us all. Roman Catholicism has a not so nice history.
I agree with Peter Joseph on the matter of human behavior evolving through nature. I think Alex's final point about nature almost came across as an advocation of "Social Darwinism" which is essentially modeling society after natural selection itself. Although I am a frequent AJ listener I disagree with his views on capitalism. Even though he clearly sees that it is the "capitalists", by definition, who benefit from the NWO.
@ahhhhjjjj Peter Joseph combines New Age mythology with Druidism and cultist ideologies and myths. For example the Pagan theories. The other religions came after Christianity not before. There was an Egyptian God ideology but it was vastly different. The ideologies of the 3 day resurrection came after Jesus Christ not beforehand. Peter Joseph is a liar. Peter Joseph denies Jesus Christ all the while portraying himself as the "savior". If you notice there's something smug about him.
@JamesRideout123 That has NOTHING to do with what I just said haha. I'm not a "Zeitgeister" if that's what you thought. But if you have proof that Peter Joseph follows Druidism in any way please send me links. Christianity, Druidism, New Age, Hindu, Pagan doesn't matter. Religion is a sham.
this is why its to hard for us to really get off the ground. this should be an interview of them talking about what they agree on and how they can help each other. People like us are inherently individualistic and that makes getting us to cooperate with each other about as easy as herding cats. NWO, Zeitgeist movement, Illuminati, Zionist, aliens, libertarians, all work around the same body of FACTS, but its the THEORIES that divide us and keep us from uniting against the corrupt powers at be
I love the fact Zeitgeist gets so much religious hatred as it shows how small minded you are (well if you believe in god , well du) the religious part of movie 1 was only 1/3 of the movie approx 30mins but hundreds of hours of movies etc have been made trying to debunk it lol - Get A life (1 with out a man in the clouds telling you what to do)
the movement is nothing to do with anti religion, movie 1 is mythology and that is clearly Christianity etc
In hindsight, the addition of religious concepts in Zeitgeist could probably have been left out, it muddies the overall concepts and messages which I think are some of the most important question out there, I think Alex makes a good point that religion divides.
Peter Joseph is a smug little disinformation agent. He reminds me of that thing in the Bible that says "beware of people who come in sheep's clothing but inside are ravenous wolves". This is what peter Joseph is. He comes to you and at first glance seems harmless but spreads 100% truths with poisonous lies (The Mark of Satan).
@brentpal I saw it. She supports Druids. I have a video on that. Its all about the Zeitgeist movie and its creators. You need to study Madam Blavatsky. Look at the video on my channel. Its my second favorite. So its right under second half of the tribulation period. Trust me when I first watched Zeitgeist I thought it was all true also until I opened my eyes and did some research.
@brentpal Peter Joseph wants you to accept an alternative social structure that refutes the possibility of evil which then refutes the possibility of love since you cannot have one without the other. Basically an alternative social structure that denies Christ. Notice how Peter Joseph attacks Roman Catholicism but not the other major religions such as Judaism. The whole part where he talks about Pagans etc is all about making Jesus Christ look like a Pagan God. Peter Joseph in inspired by Druid
AJ made good documentaries and difunded important info but i disagree totally with him in some points.He claim to fight police state, but in the arizona law case he total supported "law and order",n he made in fact xenophobic comments on mexicans. so he oppose police state when he's affected,but to defend his ideology he support... he uses the same CIA tatics to cause fear,labeling latino protests as a "communist plot". i will still check his stuff but hes not my idol at all
Peter works with true scientists offers ideas as options for people to take in order to make Earth more sustainable, without trying to deny any existing religions. Alex is an entertainer who criticizes others based solely on his own beliefs. Who should i trust? A bunch of boring scientists? Or a funny fat guy? Hm...
if you wanna attack me for being a zeitgeist follower go ahead i like alex jones as well they both open my eyes to things and that's what information is an eye opener, i don't reject any new information unless i deem it unnecessary. so go ahead attack me either way but i have a right to have a say so in what ever information is sent my way.
Peter Joseph is not attacking anyone, he wants us to open your minds people. Religion is a closed mind thing. He just wants people think outside of the box and use science
@daibadrumu religion is an outdated belief system in some ways it's helped us in other ways it's held us back it's time we took responsibility for our actions instead of waiting for a 2nd coming or some invisible man to intervene
@slash4689 Religion doesn't hold you back, some people who spread it do.
Religion is a vital discipline. If everyone would believe in its basic values(almost every religion shares the same values, don't steal, don't kill, don't hate etc.) we would evolve even more than we did until now.
Now,for instance, un is attacking libia instead of helping japan. That's because of greed and imorality.
People don't take responsability if they're not educated. That's what religion does. It educates
@daibadrumu I'd still have to respectfully disagree with you and yes you're right we could go on about this all day, Religion has been around for a very long time if religion was supposed to free us and help us move forward into a deeper understanding about the origins of the universe it would've done so already but we don't need religion for that we have science and technology, Science is what educates us not religion you're not going to be able to solve the root cause of problems with religion
@daibadrumu You don't need any religion that tells you to believe in imaginary friends, flying resurrecting zombies, flying horses, and other schizophrenic behaviours in order to love, and raise kids within a loving enviorement. Grow up from fairy tales, we are on the 21st century.
@akais5 Yes, we do. And without those stories with resurrecting zombies we would be fucking each other even worse than we are now.
If you're either at the "im too smart to believe" age,or you're just way too smart to even try to explore christianity or any other religion, view this from an educational point of view.
Without religion love would be irrelevant. There would't be a boarder between Good and Bad. Fact.
@daibadrumu "Yes, we do". Nope, we don't. The most inmediate proof being my large groups of atheist friends, whom are some of the most caring, loving and humble people around, besides being very intelligent individuals. The idea of religion being a must in order to love is a false myth perpetuated by the religion itself and its institutions in order to give it a place on the 21st century and allow it to survive. Also lol'd at your interpretation of Good and Bad. Lay off the CS Lewis propaganda.
@daibadrumu I said "most inmediate proof" intentionally. Saying that people brought up under atheist enviorements will end up "being bad" (which is basically what you are saying) is borderline down syndrome. "Good or Bad", it all depends on what cultural influences you absorb, shaping the brain a certain way and making us believe what is morally correct or not. Muslims blowing themselves up for Allah think they are doing good, receiving a recompense on the afterlife, consisting of 72 virgins.
@akais5 I didn't say it will end bad, it just sounded funny. I love the way you guys created some kind of religion out of atheism stuff, you gather around, act smart. But it's your choice and you're free to do whatever you wish.
Whatever says on your id card isn't a joke, i just wanted to know if you're american or westerm european.
Muslims are blowing themselves for Allah because they're mislead, just like the crusaders were. God didn't do that, open your eyes.
@daibadrumu I don't understand what you mean by "some kind of religion out of atheism stuff". Muslims are doing that because they genuinely thought that was the correct thing to do. Read on Apostasy in Islam. Killing someone because they stop being part of that particular religion, they think its ok. Degrading women with Burka, they thing it's ok (and women are grown up to think it's ok). Of course you'll bring some sources saying thats not true, but a divided church is no church.
@akais5 The burqa isn't a muslim thing, but social. Most muslim girls wear a hijab, just like the virgin mary used to wear as well. Nothing bad about that. And if you'd visit the northern african countries, youd be surprised to see that few wear the hijab, because they're not forced to do that.
Forcing someone to do something in the name of religion, isn't religious, but stupid and ignorant.
Love is spread with love, not with hatered.
Misinterpretation and manipulation are the weapons of satan
@daibadrumu If it is a religious thing or a social thing is not really the main concern here, but the point of how brains are shaped to believe what is and what isn't normal or morally acceptable depending on within the cultural cohordinates you are raised up at. Proof being, that those women see as normal being degraded with such stupid garment, deprived of your own image, rendering themselves as living phantoms. Disgusting.
@daibadrumu Oh wow, again: It doesn't really matter if the source of such behaviour is social, religious, or whatever, but the fact that they find it normal, and we don't. It all depends on your cultural surroundings while growing up. As a baby, if you are born on India you'll most likely be an Hindu, if you are born in Mississippi (USA) you'll be a Christian, if you are born in Iran you'll buy the Islamic religion, and so on. They'll all think their God is the real one. My point stands.
@akais5 No,it doesn't. You're just stubborn. I told you those things are social and not religious and you said it doesn't matter and it's still wrong. Well yes it is but what has that to do with God? We were talking about religion, right?
And if they find it right,then so be it. Who are you to judge them? Who are you to bomb their countries? Who are you to "free" them?
Let them worry about that.
As for terrorism in the name of religion,muslims don't consider al quaeda muslims.
@daibadrumu Its you who consistently misses the point.Even if it was a social tradition,it still was useful to prove my argument as right:We do everything depending on what we absorb on our surroundings,shapping the brain to think on a particular way.To mention a bizarre religious belief(if you are that annoying):Jehova's Witnesses are against blood transfusions,even on cases of emergency.Until recently,the former Pope banned condoms (till got embarrassing to keep denying it works against AIDS).
@daibadrumu On a side not, about the "bombing" and "freeing": Who said any of that? I couldn't care less what those unevolved, sexists, inbred sandniggers do with their lifes. I suffer because babies being born on there will be configured to accept all that nonsense as reality, and they'll most likely be born on a poor enviorement, but yeah, ultimately it's their business to get out of that shit hole and upgrade their brains outside schizophrenic metaphysical, metamagical backward beliefs.
@daibadrumu Im not telling you my nationality so you can search whatever religion-related stuff it may be linked with it and project some more. It's irrelevant for this discussion, im a citizen of planet earth, whatever says on my ID card is a joke.
@daibadrumu maybe not in theory but it provides us with the tools we need to research and investigate which is more important than just accepting a belief system for what it can or should be used for
@slash4689 And, please, don't be retarded, no religion will tell you not to take actions and wait for divine intervention, unless you're talking about murdering someone for a sin he has commited, because we're not entitled to take any life(as far as i know,muslims do agree in some cases,idk).
We could debate forever. People will still believe in "the invisible man" and will follow he's rules, whether some people like it or not.
Just like some decide not to believe and follow rules.
I don't attack zeitgeist because I think that science is good and intelligent is good...that said I believe in Jesus...Zeitgeist need not throw the baby out with the bath water...and no faith doesn't keep you from moving with environment or is not ancient...it actually is the bible that has christians thinking and noticing something like alex jones channel or the like...and yes these people are not wittengly going to a part of brainwashing those to allow the nwo to take over...
I don't attack zeitgeist because I think that science is good and intelligent is good...that said I believe in Jesus...Zeitgeist need not throw the baby out with the bath water...and no faith doesn't keep you from moving with environment or is not ancient...it actually is the bible that has christians thinking and noticing something like alex jones channel or the like...
I don't attack zeitgeist because I think that science is good and intelligent is good...that said I believe in Jesus...Zeitgeist need not throw the baby out with the bath water...
I first seen Alex jones on Waking Life, didnt know who he was, heard him on Zeitgeist still didn't know who he was. Then came info wars....he is a staple now of my news, however we disagree on main conceepts he's is still the shit.
You people are so fucking stupid. You know, before you get into the "ad-hominems" about Jones, realize that there are holes in Joseph's crap and that you should be skeptical of it. He's great at "selling" it. Flaws in our economy do not equal zeitgeist as a solution. God damn
@DaCrazyJiffyLubeGuy You cant trust anybody! But can it be any worse than it is now you fuckin dumbass. I think every poor human being would like the world to be changed, but it is impossible because of the leaders we have in this world. Everything has the same value: music, food, movies, water, entertainment etc. Thats why if everything is 'free'(no money) it can circulate.
@DaCrazyJiffyLubeGuy You moron, Peter is not suggesting TZM is the only way. If any group of people or individuals can come up with a better system which can override the current one with out corruption or finances then that's the right system. Economic system has always proven to be corrupt and has always failed simply because it does not follow the laws of nature nor care for individuals. God damn
so then the united states for 200 years was evil and corrupt just like today? Look, the plain and simple truth is that Peter is advocating communism ok. Read up on it bud
@suchafool990 Not only the U.S is corrupt but also any given monetary system is automatically corrupt. I have done my homework it is time for you to wake up, but again not everyone can wake up at the same time, take your time bud. Here is some lesson for you. Communism or any type of government including all the isms are whores of the monetary system. Peter is NOT advocating communism simply cuz there's no money/army/government involved in his system only technology n resource based economy...
@suchafool990 That's for you to do the homework without limitations so you can get familiarized with it, otherwise it would have to be a constant discussion between me and you. It is like you asking what is mathematics without knowing how to calculate 2 + 2. You first need to find out what it is, lean it on your own grounds then we can discuss the details of how to deal with the situation. I don't have the time to teach you math or RBE, that's your job nor can I do it for you.
@suchafool990 wow, does a money based economy make more sense? please check this stuff out because it's way more realistic than what we have going on right now in this world.
@suchafool990 can you even explain the current economy that we have in place? do you understand how it can work? because i currently take at least one economics course a semester in university, and everything that he says about the current economy is true. its all bullshit.
@suchafool990 not possible at this point these people make some really good points on the economic scam we have been in for a long time and the usage of the poor for the rich to get richer...but they can't make this happen without communism...they would have to re-brainwash us...go and look up the new tribes that were just discovered in the brazil forest they armed themselves against the government which disproves the theory of environmental influence being the only rational...that is Godless...
@THE BEACHED WHALE WHO'S PRETENDING TO INTERVIEW PETER J.: TRY POURING MORE STEROIDS INTO THAT HOLE OF YOURS, YOU PATHETIC NOOB, THEN MAYBE YOU'LL SHUT THE F!@# UP AND GET RID OF YOUR CELLULITE PROB ALL AT THE SAME TIME (you know, a 2-fer)!!! : )
I used to drink the Alex Jones cool aid at a time when I felt frightened and hopeless. I am thankful to him for awakening me to many things, however, his intense anger and hatred overpowers him, blinding him for seeing clearly. These ego explosions have revealed a lot about Alex Jones to me. This interview reminds me of the tactics that Bill O'Reilly uses when he doesn't want to hear what the guest has to say. "You have the last word, unless I disagree".
I respect Alex Jones but he himself is leading folks to stand up to these tyrants and what then? After the blood shed, millions of deaths..what then? He has no solution so we can't go back into the system we have tried to free ourselves from..no more profit, no more greed, we will put back the primitive thinking in our subconscious and live the golden rule..Treat others as u would like to be treated..implement that in ur daily life!
look, no one is ever going to take care of you for the rest of your life ok. never gonna happen. I dont care how much Peter promises you, you're going to have to work and look after your own butt.
I see people on here use words such as "idiot" and "dumbass" and make multiple spelling and grammar mistakes in just a sentence and these people try to debunk the idea of Peter Joseph and the Zeitgeist Movement?? You people are the plancton of the ocean, drifting on the very surface of it thinking you see everything.And P.J. is a snailfish (look it up fellas) who has penetrated through every layer of the ocean and now is able to step on the bottom and look up and say "Hey something's not right"
this is too much for alexander jones brain
Baprener 1 week ago
Later on alex jones actually says he is against TZM
TheCaptainjuicy 4 weeks ago
peter joseph funded zeitgeist. he has worked in advertisements and the stock market. this is a non profit therefore i cant imagine joseph being as rich as he was before he started this.
Linsley121 1 month ago
who funded zeitgeist?
MrNickNamez 1 month ago
@MrNickNamez No one, peter joesph does all his own stuff on his own with his own money
ManifestYourMindset 1 day ago
Lost what small amount of respect I had for Alex Jones
LarkinK86 2 months ago
I absolutely love this situation!!
A bunch of Alex Jones sheeple and Peter Joseph sheeple who think they're so much smarter than the masses, even though they have a very hard time figuring things on their own, AND THEY'RE MISSING PURE COMEDY GOLD EVEN IF IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES.
SlipAllCityToy 3 months ago
@SlipAllCityToy Do you realize how hypocritical you sound by saying that? It speaks of pure arrogance to just lump everyone who listens to Joeseph or Jones into a collective pile of sheeple. You're so enlightened to tell us what you've figured out from your own research and a direction to take in a broken society? You're clearly smarter than the masses of alternitive media hordes. If anything here is "pure comedic gold" it's your comment.
TheOmegaeyes 3 weeks ago
@TheOmegaeyes
No, I didn't say that listening to AJ or PJ makes them sheeple, I listen to them both, I was talking about the comments.
This video is hilarious, and the people that are blindly obsessed with either one of them are clearly missing the pure hilarity, because the video is about them arguing, which I guess creates kind of a idiocracy-feeling to it.
I'm glad that you found my comment funny, but you have a weird way to react to funny things, I think.
SlipAllCityToy 3 weeks ago
@SlipAllCityToy Oh I see, I thought you were just making a blind insult to their listeners, my apologies. I see people making comments like this all the time but they're usually misled by mainstream media. I find it to be a good rule of thumb to be open and objective to all forms of media. It's the ones who think Fox, MSNBC, CNN and so forth can do no wrong that bother me.
TheOmegaeyes 3 weeks ago
@TheOmegaeyes
Oh right, haha!
We all know those kind of people.
SlipAllCityToy 3 weeks ago
Alex Jones is an agent of misinformation.... thats all
Baprener 3 months ago
Alex Jones biggest sack of shit 2011 with Harold Camping.
TheNotoriousJesus 3 months ago
Actually, Alex's notion that competition is the natural state of human behavior is nonsense for the most part. The only reason the human species, or any other species which we're aware of have survived this long is precisely due to NOT competing and working collectively. Yes, I said it "collectively". That means 'together as a group'. Period. This is a non-issue. So, the notion that competition is a good thing, which it may be true in chess, simply has nothing whatsoever to do with human sustain
kropotkinbeard1 3 months ago
Alex Jones is a complete knobhead!
Laoch111 4 months ago
Alex Jones gets completely owned, for no other reason than he's right. You know the truth when you hear it. You don't need any convincing of the truth.
psymonism 4 months ago
I love listening to Peter Joseph, I can´t stand listening to Alex Jones, regardless of what they´re saying.
raultejedor 4 months ago
Alex Jones is an agent of misinformation. :O
hoogys 4 months ago
@hoogys yep
organikness 4 months ago
@hoogys Naaah :) Got any proof? You should better look who funded Zeitgeist and take a look to the other side... maybe... idk...
APokeInTheEye 4 months ago
AJ and his corrupted tactics...
doctorage39 4 months ago
One thing that need to change, is Alex jones' voice...
ok and cutting off PJ at 8:12 with music playing in the background? wtf is that all about? F U AJ..
Super hypocritical immature Christians...
Jesus ought to be disappointed in you...
doctorage39 4 months ago
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doctorage39 4 months ago
When you think of every race in the world, you know that deep down inside, a biased religion, will not work for us...what we need to accept is that these stories in the bible only put out metaphorical truths. We need to abide by the "moral values" of the stories but we shouldn't be square about it. Its time for change. The tradition needs to evolve, universally.
doctorage39 4 months ago
Peter Joesph's idealism will come to fruition soon. Generally speaking the Earth's shifts will decide our future. We will be forced to make changes. It will happen because of what's ABOVE & BEYOND. Simple as that.
EthericEnergy9 5 months ago
@zoulkyud Unfortunately, you are right. The Venus project is impossible due to the core nature of humans. All people can't be peacefull at all times, that is, for long periods of time.. Yet, I don't think it's a fraud, it's just a useless hope, a someones idea or perspective of the perfect world that, however, can NEVER be accomplished..
TheBeastAC 5 months ago
@TheBeastAC correct. its in the dna to survive. thats why even if they take away 99% of the crime, that 1% that goes rampart and can form crimes be unstopable since there is no police in the venus project proves this.
the only way is to change genes so that violence is impossible, and even THEN you need machines that are hardwired in the brain and cant be removed that check people incase they do something that is harmful to others. the road to hell is paved with good intentions, this machine f-
kissemurra12 4 months ago
@kissemurra12 - Are you serious? Wow.....retarded
psymonism 4 months ago
@psymonism glad you admit your stupid then, as the argument stated proves you had no argument;)
kissemurra12 1 month ago
@TheBeastAC when you believe that and reinforce that in your words, intentions, thoughts, ideas, and everyday life....so it will be
organikness 4 months ago
Doesn't Alex Jones look like Eric Cartman without the hat? ;D
Google "Eric Cartman without the hat" in Google images, especially check out page 4, the pic of him wearing the cross!! he he IDENTICAL
P. S. does anybody know how to put a link in here (in the comments)?, Thanks, Cheers!
nanoyiyeveva 5 months ago
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nanoyiyeveva 5 months ago
how canu go against pj
faness1 5 months ago
@faness1
Because one violent soul could destroy their society.
Because the venus project was a giant fraud.
zoulkyud 5 months ago
@zoulkyud what do u mean ? please explain?
faness1 5 months ago
@faness1
A society that believes in total peace is non-existent. Anyone internally or outside of this society could conquer and destroy it. Look at the native Americans for example and many other historically peaceful cultures. They are destroyed when outsider seek to do them harm.
The venus project is impossible on so many levels.
zoulkyud 5 months ago
The point of it all is that I like Alex Jones and Peter Joseph who have alternative ideas instead of business as usual. Although I don't agree with everything that Alex Jones and Peter Joseph say, I do appreciate their intellectual stimulus. Instead of fighting each other. I suggest Alex Jones, Peter Joseph, Short Changed, Truth Seekers, Anonymous,. Gerald Clemente, David Ike, Judge Napolitano, and others should unite and collaborate, which would be much more beneficial.
VerseInfinitum 5 months ago
@VerseInfinitum it wont let me thumbs up your comment.. So instead ill just say its the point im trying to get across to all the people being divided over pety differences, confusion and miscommunication.
clarkygorny 5 months ago
@alexticule i love you
PacmanBonez 5 months ago
i feel bad for the zeitgeist cult
PacmanBonez 5 months ago
Alex is kind of a disinformer, but i think he may be right about global warming though, so many versions and opinions about it, hard to know who to believe in.
TheDarkFenix 5 months ago
@TheDarkFenix The environmental scientists, most likely.
Lakopa8 5 months ago
@Lakopa8 That's the point. Not all of them seems to agree about this
TheDarkFenix 5 months ago
@TheDarkFenix Well they all agree the ocean gyres will slow down around 60% if not more, limiting heat distribution. This equates to global climate instability, (hot regions hotter, cold regions colder, major monsoons in already wet areas and longer, worse droughts in others) and all that fun stuff. There are variations, but only on what regions will get hit the worst, which hopefully will never become a reality anyway.
Lakopa8 5 months ago
I can't put into words how well Peter Joseph puts things into words!
TheDarkFenix 6 months ago
I don't think this is a good idea, these two people shouldn't be bashing each other.
12NiBer12 6 months ago
I cannot even begin to tell you how much of a fraud Alex Jones is. Keep in mind Light can be deceptive but sound never lies, and he sounds highly suspicious.
good2btheking 6 months ago
PETER JOSEPH > ALEX JONES.
kdpflanders1 7 months ago
@kdpflanders1 MUPPET > ALEX JONES > PETER JOSEPH
rumco 7 months ago
u didnt even saw the movie and if u did u didnt get it, genius minds...peter and jaques...WE ARE ONE...
sloyer666 7 months ago
alex you are very confusing
ajtemp2000 7 months ago
peter joseph is an idealist. I won't say his ideas are complete bullshit, but what if there's people who don't want to be part of his system and want to work. He has to deal with these problems
AustereAustrian 7 months ago
@AustereAustrian um, where does peter joseph say you have to stop working? you obviously did not watch Zeitgeist: Moving Forward. he says under his proposed system/ideas, people would VOLUNTARILY work for the betterment of the human species. please stop making comments when you haven't reviewed the material properly kthanks
markuskentwood 7 months ago
@markuskentwood : Hello brother. I think that this interview regards the movie "Zeitgeist Addendum" and not the movie Zeitgeist: Moving forward. In Zeitgeist Addendum, if i havnt got the movies confused, he says something about that when people dont have to work, they will start thinking about other things instead.
I like both Alex Jones and Peter Joseph for the fact that they are striving to make the world a better place to live in.
. both of them can be "too much" at times. Peace n Love
prastost 7 months ago
@virginsole prove it
AustereAustrian 7 months ago
lmao they're trying to position themselves at the top because their social structure is failing? Whatever happened to "the object of power is power" as he so eloquently quoted Orwell as saying in zeitgeist updated. No, tyranny asserts itself for the object of acheiving power. "if the people ever allow the banks to gain control of the money supply the banks that will grow up around them will deprive them of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conqu
LetsTalkPolitix 8 months ago
@LetsTalkPolitix -Thomas Jefferson
ganjamerch 8 months ago in playlist ZEITGEIST
im glad to hear he agreed with 90% of the movie, personlly i dont belive the point of religion is to belive in the magic space daddy. but the point of religion is philosiphy to question the meaning of existance to question the difference between right and wrong
stalkingcat123 8 months ago
if ppl cant understand that zeitgeist is all about globalism and world goverment then I feel sorry for them
coulthard1984 8 months ago
@idasputum @vire70 the arguments used are erroneous. You are watching some debunking video from the Christian community. The Venus project is called what it is because it is based in Venus Florida - now, it does not take a genius to work that out.
As for new world order, do you know what that even is? Clearly you do not.
The zeitgeist movement is not in the mainstream news. TZM does however appear on independent news channels such as RT.
markusboyd3 8 months ago
@vire70 the arguments used are erroneous. You are watching some debunking video from the Christian community. The Venus project is called what it is because it is based in Venus Florida - now, it does not take a genius to work that out.
As for new world order, do you know what that even is? Clearly you do not.
The zeitgeist movement is not in the mainstream news. TZM does however appear on independent news channels such as RT.
markusboyd3 8 months ago
Alex Jones's info (when put into action) ..will lead directly into Peter Joseph's info. Funny how that works out, hah.
mgturn99 8 months ago
@mgturn99 ONLY BECAUSE THEY MURDERED PEOPLE LIKE BILL COOPER!!!!!!!!!!!! in my opinion! peace!
repoocmailliw 8 months ago
Lmao, Jones is a superstitious/religion sheltering dumbass who needs to improve his knowledge of the weak arguments presented in favor of a higher power/god. These religious scum sicken me.
SlayingMinion 8 months ago
Screaming louder and having the finger on the silence button while pushing the god envelope does not make a person right , Alex should grow up and learn the art of a fair interview...ie. ask a question and allow the other to answer without interrupting/ yelling down the mic or hitting the mute button on his guest. If you were listening as a person without bias for either guy, it was handled very badly by Alex.
barone04 9 months ago
Ya, anyone who starts talking about using science to fix the ills of the world is forgetting about all the times bogus "science" has been used to back up whacked out ideologies; such as claiming the world will end because of global warming and that one racial group is superior through belief in eugenics. This guy wants everything planned out for you. Alex is right, who is going to make these decisions? A text book or spread sheet can't be elected president.
amerique101 9 months ago
Usually I'm with Alex, but the other guy is making more sense to me.
ColdBoi 9 months ago
@ColdBoi Peter Joseph combines New Age mythology with Druidic ideologies and myths.
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 New Age mythology? I haven't heard him speak of any... unless you mean him promoting The Venus Project, which seems better to me than our current form of government.
ColdBoi 9 months ago
@ColdBoi He is combining the idea of a better world with the teachings of Madam Blavatsky who is a Satanist.
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 If by Satanist you mean Luciferian then yes. But Satanist as far as Anton LaVey then no. Two totally different things. As a non-believer I don't take part in "Luciferian" practices or "Devil Worship". However I know enough about these belief systems. LaVey's doctrine being interesting.
ahhhhjjjj 9 months ago
@ahhhhjjjj The very fact that you find LaVey interesting is evidence of how little you know about Satanic worship. I would not regard any cult that murders children as interesting. I might view it as repulsive. You should study Madam Blavatsky and what she represented. The New Age cults have their base in Satanic or false miracles.
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 You completely misunderstood what I meant by interesting. It is interesting doctrine for what it is when compared to other religious and even theistic doctrines. I do not agree with Anton LaVey but I also don't agree with Hitler but if you're going to tell me that Nazi history isn't interesting then I think we are using two totally different terms. Why are you trying to sell me that New Age is Satanic? I don't care if it's a flaming Buddha I still don't believe what they believe
ahhhhjjjj 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 In other words. I'm not a New Ager. The only new "age" I recognize is that of astronomical significance not astrological. New Ideology does just what Christian Ideology does: it removes personal responsible and eliminates well rounded progress. I don't in any way think that The Venus Project is New Age. It's goal is practical egalitarianism. It is an experiment is self sustainability.
ahhhhjjjj 9 months ago
@ahhhhjjjj No Roman Catholicism doesn't teach against being responsible it teaches that people should be responsible for their actions. It teaches that we should be merciful. Although God can at times be non-merciful to Sinners it never teaches that its disciples should be non-merciful. Where in Evolution is Mercy taught? The New Age is Satanic because it has its basis in false miracles. False miracles is Satanic doctrine. Jesus himself warned of false miracles.
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 By Vicarious redemption? Throwing your sins onto to another? Where in Gravity is mercy taught? Where in Quantum Mechanics is mercy taught? Special Relativity? What about Germ Theory? Is there mercy in that? Evolution is a scientific fact. It has nothing to do with "philosophy". Only social Darwinists want to model society after evolution. The Church has been a burden on us all. Roman Catholicism has a not so nice history.
ahhhhjjjj 9 months ago
I agree with Peter Joseph on the matter of human behavior evolving through nature. I think Alex's final point about nature almost came across as an advocation of "Social Darwinism" which is essentially modeling society after natural selection itself. Although I am a frequent AJ listener I disagree with his views on capitalism. Even though he clearly sees that it is the "capitalists", by definition, who benefit from the NWO.
ahhhhjjjj 9 months ago
@ahhhhjjjj Peter Joseph combines New Age mythology with Druidism and cultist ideologies and myths. For example the Pagan theories. The other religions came after Christianity not before. There was an Egyptian God ideology but it was vastly different. The ideologies of the 3 day resurrection came after Jesus Christ not beforehand. Peter Joseph is a liar. Peter Joseph denies Jesus Christ all the while portraying himself as the "savior". If you notice there's something smug about him.
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 That has NOTHING to do with what I just said haha. I'm not a "Zeitgeister" if that's what you thought. But if you have proof that Peter Joseph follows Druidism in any way please send me links. Christianity, Druidism, New Age, Hindu, Pagan doesn't matter. Religion is a sham.
ahhhhjjjj 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123
Lol, what a joke you are, alongside your paltry superstitious cult.
Vire70 9 months ago
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@Vire70 Peter Joseph CLAIMS he is NON -religious but he takes Satanism VERY seriously.
ALL his source references for Addendum were Satanic authors. See LINK below my vid .
SHITEHEIST, AGAINDUMB, SHITEHEIST MOVING FORWARD the NWO.
ZM is owned by the SAME Satanist bankers!
If ZM was any threat to FED BANKER GOVT system, do you really think they'd let ZM on MAINSTREAM TV?
Im GENUINELY NON-religious
IdaSputum 8 months ago
this is why its to hard for us to really get off the ground. this should be an interview of them talking about what they agree on and how they can help each other. People like us are inherently individualistic and that makes getting us to cooperate with each other about as easy as herding cats. NWO, Zeitgeist movement, Illuminati, Zionist, aliens, libertarians, all work around the same body of FACTS, but its the THEORIES that divide us and keep us from uniting against the corrupt powers at be
MoKillaGorilla 9 months ago
I love the fact Zeitgeist gets so much religious hatred as it shows how small minded you are (well if you believe in god , well du) the religious part of movie 1 was only 1/3 of the movie approx 30mins but hundreds of hours of movies etc have been made trying to debunk it lol - Get A life (1 with out a man in the clouds telling you what to do)
the movement is nothing to do with anti religion, movie 1 is mythology and that is clearly Christianity etc
pick on this, darwin, dawkins etc lol
Jontvp2012 9 months ago
In hindsight, the addition of religious concepts in Zeitgeist could probably have been left out, it muddies the overall concepts and messages which I think are some of the most important question out there, I think Alex makes a good point that religion divides.
astrodroidz 9 months ago
2 morons
tjohn1986 9 months ago
Peter Joseph is a smug little disinformation agent. He reminds me of that thing in the Bible that says "beware of people who come in sheep's clothing but inside are ravenous wolves". This is what peter Joseph is. He comes to you and at first glance seems harmless but spreads 100% truths with poisonous lies (The Mark of Satan).
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123
???WTF??? Peter's a good guy bro. Check out his podcasts on blogtalk radio and try to keep an open mind.
It doesn't seem like Jones wants to make much progress in any area except selling his DVD's.
Kumrockme 9 months ago
@Kumrockme No he tries to combine his movies with selling the Darwinist agenda.
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 : did u ever met Peter Joseph in person? And what kind of lies did he tell? Give me at least 3 examples.
rusja1987 9 months ago
@rusja1987 He lied about Religion. He lied about Jesus and he lied about the origin of the Human Species.
Not to mention he constantly bashes Christianity all the while trying to present himself as the "Saviour".
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 how is what he said about religion a lie?
brentpal 9 months ago
@brentpal Youtube Zeitgeist Refuted on Religion.
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
@JamesRideout123 you need to youtube ZEITGEIST, Part 1 (Religion) Debunked? Acharya Responds
brentpal 9 months ago
@brentpal I saw it. She supports Druids. I have a video on that. Its all about the Zeitgeist movie and its creators. You need to study Madam Blavatsky. Look at the video on my channel. Its my second favorite. So its right under second half of the tribulation period. Trust me when I first watched Zeitgeist I thought it was all true also until I opened my eyes and did some research.
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
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@brentpal Peter Joseph wants you to accept an alternative social structure that refutes the possibility of evil which then refutes the possibility of love since you cannot have one without the other. Basically an alternative social structure that denies Christ. Notice how Peter Joseph attacks Roman Catholicism but not the other major religions such as Judaism. The whole part where he talks about Pagans etc is all about making Jesus Christ look like a Pagan God. Peter Joseph in inspired by Druid
JamesRideout123 9 months ago
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AliensUFOsProof 10 months ago
3 minutes plus before we get to the interview. Come on, Jones.
MrJCinLA 10 months ago
AJ made good documentaries and difunded important info but i disagree totally with him in some points.He claim to fight police state, but in the arizona law case he total supported "law and order",n he made in fact xenophobic comments on mexicans. so he oppose police state when he's affected,but to defend his ideology he support... he uses the same CIA tatics to cause fear,labeling latino protests as a "communist plot". i will still check his stuff but hes not my idol at all
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Allseeingeye2013 10 months ago
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4:42 Centralized power...nuff said
caught you JO
CY0PS 10 months ago
4:42 Centralized power...nuff said
CY0PS 10 months ago
THEY NEED TO MAKE OUT AND HOLD HANDS . WE JUST WANT FREEDOM .
Ycorporation2010 10 months ago
@Ycorporation2010 Totally agree.
Thesortvokter 10 months ago
I love both of these guys! Now that's a paradox!
WJValente 10 months ago
sorry for using the word "fat", very judgmental of me.
worldclassjerk 10 months ago
Peter works with true scientists offers ideas as options for people to take in order to make Earth more sustainable, without trying to deny any existing religions. Alex is an entertainer who criticizes others based solely on his own beliefs. Who should i trust? A bunch of boring scientists? Or a funny fat guy? Hm...
worldclassjerk 10 months ago
Alex Jones ..., are you satanic....???
SetTruthFree 11 months ago
Watch for this Mind Control "New Age" Agenda
BlackIntell312 11 months ago
if you wanna attack me for being a zeitgeist follower go ahead i like alex jones as well they both open my eyes to things and that's what information is an eye opener, i don't reject any new information unless i deem it unnecessary. so go ahead attack me either way but i have a right to have a say so in what ever information is sent my way.
bull69833 11 months ago
@nothypnotized
Alex has been around since the 1990's
europa 11 months ago
Peter Joseph is not attacking anyone, he wants us to open your minds people. Religion is a closed mind thing. He just wants people think outside of the box and use science
jadeloveshayden 11 months ago
@jadeloveshayden religion isn't against science, religion is pro preserving moral values.
Without religion we would fuck eachother up even worse than we're doing now.
It isn't anti evolution, don't get things messed up.
daibadrumu 11 months ago
@daibadrumu religion is an outdated belief system in some ways it's helped us in other ways it's held us back it's time we took responsibility for our actions instead of waiting for a 2nd coming or some invisible man to intervene
slash4689 11 months ago
@slash4689 Religion doesn't hold you back, some people who spread it do.
Religion is a vital discipline. If everyone would believe in its basic values(almost every religion shares the same values, don't steal, don't kill, don't hate etc.) we would evolve even more than we did until now.
Now,for instance, un is attacking libia instead of helping japan. That's because of greed and imorality.
People don't take responsability if they're not educated. That's what religion does. It educates
daibadrumu 11 months ago
@daibadrumu I'd still have to respectfully disagree with you and yes you're right we could go on about this all day, Religion has been around for a very long time if religion was supposed to free us and help us move forward into a deeper understanding about the origins of the universe it would've done so already but we don't need religion for that we have science and technology, Science is what educates us not religion you're not going to be able to solve the root cause of problems with religion
slash4689 11 months ago
@slash4689 science doesn't educate you to love your parents,friends,neighbors and so on. this stuff is "scientifically irrelevant"
daibadrumu 11 months ago
@daibadrumu You don't need any religion that tells you to believe in imaginary friends, flying resurrecting zombies, flying horses, and other schizophrenic behaviours in order to love, and raise kids within a loving enviorement. Grow up from fairy tales, we are on the 21st century.
akais5 11 months ago
@akais5 Yes, we do. And without those stories with resurrecting zombies we would be fucking each other even worse than we are now.
If you're either at the "im too smart to believe" age,or you're just way too smart to even try to explore christianity or any other religion, view this from an educational point of view.
Without religion love would be irrelevant. There would't be a boarder between Good and Bad. Fact.
daibadrumu 11 months ago
@daibadrumu "Yes, we do". Nope, we don't. The most inmediate proof being my large groups of atheist friends, whom are some of the most caring, loving and humble people around, besides being very intelligent individuals. The idea of religion being a must in order to love is a false myth perpetuated by the religion itself and its institutions in order to give it a place on the 21st century and allow it to survive. Also lol'd at your interpretation of Good and Bad. Lay off the CS Lewis propaganda.
akais5 11 months ago
@akais5 Your atheist friends, its like youre some kind of mystery solving group.
Could you please tell me, what country are you from?
daibadrumu 11 months ago
@daibadrumu I said "most inmediate proof" intentionally. Saying that people brought up under atheist enviorements will end up "being bad" (which is basically what you are saying) is borderline down syndrome. "Good or Bad", it all depends on what cultural influences you absorb, shaping the brain a certain way and making us believe what is morally correct or not. Muslims blowing themselves up for Allah think they are doing good, receiving a recompense on the afterlife, consisting of 72 virgins.
akais5 11 months ago
@akais5 I didn't say it will end bad, it just sounded funny. I love the way you guys created some kind of religion out of atheism stuff, you gather around, act smart. But it's your choice and you're free to do whatever you wish.
Whatever says on your id card isn't a joke, i just wanted to know if you're american or westerm european.
Muslims are blowing themselves for Allah because they're mislead, just like the crusaders were. God didn't do that, open your eyes.
You shouldn't listen to everyone.
daibadrumu 11 months ago
@daibadrumu I don't understand what you mean by "some kind of religion out of atheism stuff". Muslims are doing that because they genuinely thought that was the correct thing to do. Read on Apostasy in Islam. Killing someone because they stop being part of that particular religion, they think its ok. Degrading women with Burka, they thing it's ok (and women are grown up to think it's ok). Of course you'll bring some sources saying thats not true, but a divided church is no church.
akais5 11 months ago
@akais5 The burqa isn't a muslim thing, but social. Most muslim girls wear a hijab, just like the virgin mary used to wear as well. Nothing bad about that. And if you'd visit the northern african countries, youd be surprised to see that few wear the hijab, because they're not forced to do that.
Forcing someone to do something in the name of religion, isn't religious, but stupid and ignorant.
Love is spread with love, not with hatered.
Misinterpretation and manipulation are the weapons of satan
daibadrumu 11 months ago
@daibadrumu If it is a religious thing or a social thing is not really the main concern here, but the point of how brains are shaped to believe what is and what isn't normal or morally acceptable depending on within the cultural cohordinates you are raised up at. Proof being, that those women see as normal being degraded with such stupid garment, deprived of your own image, rendering themselves as living phantoms. Disgusting.
akais5 11 months ago
@akais5 They accept to be "degraded' SOCIALLY, you know, they used to wear that stuff even before mohammed came up with the Quran.
daibadrumu 11 months ago
@daibadrumu Oh wow, again: It doesn't really matter if the source of such behaviour is social, religious, or whatever, but the fact that they find it normal, and we don't. It all depends on your cultural surroundings while growing up. As a baby, if you are born on India you'll most likely be an Hindu, if you are born in Mississippi (USA) you'll be a Christian, if you are born in Iran you'll buy the Islamic religion, and so on. They'll all think their God is the real one. My point stands.
akais5 11 months ago
@akais5 No,it doesn't. You're just stubborn. I told you those things are social and not religious and you said it doesn't matter and it's still wrong. Well yes it is but what has that to do with God? We were talking about religion, right?
And if they find it right,then so be it. Who are you to judge them? Who are you to bomb their countries? Who are you to "free" them?
Let them worry about that.
As for terrorism in the name of religion,muslims don't consider al quaeda muslims.
daibadrumu 10 months ago
@daibadrumu Its you who consistently misses the point.Even if it was a social tradition,it still was useful to prove my argument as right:We do everything depending on what we absorb on our surroundings,shapping the brain to think on a particular way.To mention a bizarre religious belief(if you are that annoying):Jehova's Witnesses are against blood transfusions,even on cases of emergency.Until recently,the former Pope banned condoms (till got embarrassing to keep denying it works against AIDS).
akais5 10 months ago
@daibadrumu On a side not, about the "bombing" and "freeing": Who said any of that? I couldn't care less what those unevolved, sexists, inbred sandniggers do with their lifes. I suffer because babies being born on there will be configured to accept all that nonsense as reality, and they'll most likely be born on a poor enviorement, but yeah, ultimately it's their business to get out of that shit hole and upgrade their brains outside schizophrenic metaphysical, metamagical backward beliefs.
akais5 10 months ago
@daibadrumu Im not telling you my nationality so you can search whatever religion-related stuff it may be linked with it and project some more. It's irrelevant for this discussion, im a citizen of planet earth, whatever says on my ID card is a joke.
akais5 11 months ago
@daibadrumu maybe not in theory but it provides us with the tools we need to research and investigate which is more important than just accepting a belief system for what it can or should be used for
slash4689 11 months ago
@slash4689 And, please, don't be retarded, no religion will tell you not to take actions and wait for divine intervention, unless you're talking about murdering someone for a sin he has commited, because we're not entitled to take any life(as far as i know,muslims do agree in some cases,idk).
We could debate forever. People will still believe in "the invisible man" and will follow he's rules, whether some people like it or not.
Just like some decide not to believe and follow rules.
daibadrumu 11 months ago
if you believe that humans cannot change their behavior because of instinct THEN YOU ARE HOLDING US BACK.
stonedmentx 11 months ago
I don't attack zeitgeist because I think that science is good and intelligent is good...that said I believe in Jesus...Zeitgeist need not throw the baby out with the bath water...and no faith doesn't keep you from moving with environment or is not ancient...it actually is the bible that has christians thinking and noticing something like alex jones channel or the like...and yes these people are not wittengly going to a part of brainwashing those to allow the nwo to take over...
lucy9359 11 months ago
I don't attack zeitgeist because I think that science is good and intelligent is good...that said I believe in Jesus...Zeitgeist need not throw the baby out with the bath water...and no faith doesn't keep you from moving with environment or is not ancient...it actually is the bible that has christians thinking and noticing something like alex jones channel or the like...
lucy9359 11 months ago
I don't attack zeitgeist because I think that science is good and intelligent is good...that said I believe in Jesus...Zeitgeist need not throw the baby out with the bath water...
lucy9359 11 months ago
judgement = "my point of view"
nickhb90 11 months ago
I first seen Alex jones on Waking Life, didnt know who he was, heard him on Zeitgeist still didn't know who he was. Then came info wars....he is a staple now of my news, however we disagree on main conceepts he's is still the shit.
northwestblazinfire 11 months ago
You people are so fucking stupid. You know, before you get into the "ad-hominems" about Jones, realize that there are holes in Joseph's crap and that you should be skeptical of it. He's great at "selling" it. Flaws in our economy do not equal zeitgeist as a solution. God damn
DaCrazyJiffyLubeGuy 1 year ago
@DaCrazyJiffyLubeGuy You cant trust anybody! But can it be any worse than it is now you fuckin dumbass. I think every poor human being would like the world to be changed, but it is impossible because of the leaders we have in this world. Everything has the same value: music, food, movies, water, entertainment etc. Thats why if everything is 'free'(no money) it can circulate.
mastereismaname 1 year ago
@DaCrazyJiffyLubeGuy You moron, Peter is not suggesting TZM is the only way. If any group of people or individuals can come up with a better system which can override the current one with out corruption or finances then that's the right system. Economic system has always proven to be corrupt and has always failed simply because it does not follow the laws of nature nor care for individuals. God damn
Annuunnaki 1 year ago
@Annuunnaki
so then the united states for 200 years was evil and corrupt just like today? Look, the plain and simple truth is that Peter is advocating communism ok. Read up on it bud
suchafool990 1 year ago
@suchafool990 Not only the U.S is corrupt but also any given monetary system is automatically corrupt. I have done my homework it is time for you to wake up, but again not everyone can wake up at the same time, take your time bud. Here is some lesson for you. Communism or any type of government including all the isms are whores of the monetary system. Peter is NOT advocating communism simply cuz there's no money/army/government involved in his system only technology n resource based economy...
Annuunnaki 11 months ago
@Annuunnaki what the hell does "resource based economy" mean? can you even explain it? do you understand how it can work?
suchafool990 11 months ago
@suchafool990 That's for you to do the homework without limitations so you can get familiarized with it, otherwise it would have to be a constant discussion between me and you. It is like you asking what is mathematics without knowing how to calculate 2 + 2. You first need to find out what it is, lean it on your own grounds then we can discuss the details of how to deal with the situation. I don't have the time to teach you math or RBE, that's your job nor can I do it for you.
Annuunnaki 11 months ago
@suchafool990 wow, does a money based economy make more sense? please check this stuff out because it's way more realistic than what we have going on right now in this world.
AsAmIaM84 11 months ago
@suchafool990 can you even explain the current economy that we have in place? do you understand how it can work? because i currently take at least one economics course a semester in university, and everything that he says about the current economy is true. its all bullshit.
generalpassport 11 months ago
@suchafool990 not possible at this point these people make some really good points on the economic scam we have been in for a long time and the usage of the poor for the rich to get richer...but they can't make this happen without communism...they would have to re-brainwash us...go and look up the new tribes that were just discovered in the brazil forest they armed themselves against the government which disproves the theory of environmental influence being the only rational...that is Godless...
lucy9359 11 months ago
@DaCrazyJiffyLubeGuy your label as a right wing person says it all.
bampaz2011 1 year ago
jones is such a self-promoting jerk-off.
yanikv 1 year ago
@THE BEACHED WHALE: Btw, it's OBVIOUS that it was YOU who put up that BOGUS Facebook page of Peter J...
JackMeoffe 1 year ago
@THE BEACHED WHALE WHO'S PRETENDING TO INTERVIEW PETER J.: TRY POURING MORE STEROIDS INTO THAT HOLE OF YOURS, YOU PATHETIC NOOB, THEN MAYBE YOU'LL SHUT THE F!@# UP AND GET RID OF YOUR CELLULITE PROB ALL AT THE SAME TIME (you know, a 2-fer)!!! : )
JackMeoffe 1 year ago
Alex Jones is obnoxious throughout this interview. Peter Joseph is far more composed and mature....May we all Move Forward.
07CStorm 1 year ago
i want to see this movie!! going to check out in web movie tube
dodiemuehleisen50 1 year ago
he is stupid by his terrible voice. Who listen to his voice? he and his voice is fat.
I don't understand what his point is. He just argue and argue and he has got no point whatsoever.
I like to tell him shut up and go search more to find a point and come talk,
javad242 1 year ago
Whats with the music and cutting peter off all the time hes actually trying to make a point? This is a horrible interview.
manstro100 1 year ago
@manstro100 Yeah. really.. WTF?? This is fuckin whatever!
sim590 1 year ago
I used to drink the Alex Jones cool aid at a time when I felt frightened and hopeless. I am thankful to him for awakening me to many things, however, his intense anger and hatred overpowers him, blinding him for seeing clearly. These ego explosions have revealed a lot about Alex Jones to me. This interview reminds me of the tactics that Bill O'Reilly uses when he doesn't want to hear what the guest has to say. "You have the last word, unless I disagree".
DTK5689 1 year ago
@DTK5689 Agreed
07CStorm 1 year ago
I respect Alex Jones but he himself is leading folks to stand up to these tyrants and what then? After the blood shed, millions of deaths..what then? He has no solution so we can't go back into the system we have tried to free ourselves from..no more profit, no more greed, we will put back the primitive thinking in our subconscious and live the golden rule..Treat others as u would like to be treated..implement that in ur daily life!
EvilSidahRidah818 1 year ago
@EvilSidahRidah818
look, no one is ever going to take care of you for the rest of your life ok. never gonna happen. I dont care how much Peter promises you, you're going to have to work and look after your own butt.
suchafool990 1 year ago
Alex Jones really shows his ignorance in this clip.
MELESAKUEHN 1 year ago
@MELESAKUEHN wait until you see the other parts...they're so worth watching, so hilarious, please watch
MrSkate4weed 1 year ago
Alex jones is a serious kiss ass apparently... I just watched his refute videos and he's now taking it back...
He was basically saying rich people are going to use all the tech against the lower class like some sci-fi horror movie...
killerwolf02 1 year ago
I see people on here use words such as "idiot" and "dumbass" and make multiple spelling and grammar mistakes in just a sentence and these people try to debunk the idea of Peter Joseph and the Zeitgeist Movement?? You people are the plancton of the ocean, drifting on the very surface of it thinking you see everything.And P.J. is a snailfish (look it up fellas) who has penetrated through every layer of the ocean and now is able to step on the bottom and look up and say "Hey something's not right"
Kando0615 1 year ago