Riz Khan- David Horowitz- 21 Aug 08- Part 2

[georgepotter428]

I want this video on my M19 unit.

[MarruecosMan]

he wants palestians state in Jordan so we too want Jewish state in Alaska LOL

[billclymer]

david h is only a racist fascist t neocon scum-bag

[catch22112]

Watch an old palestinian lady who bravely reveal the truth.

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[catch22112]

Hamas in its own charter implies of their hidden intentions in regard to Israel and Jews. Here are few quoting out of the charter:

"The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him…"

(Jews) control of the world media (and use their) wealth to stir revolutions … They stood behind the French and the Communist Revolutions."

[moctezuma112]

David is not Jewish but a Zionist and a pathological liar. I'm glad he got owned on this debate.

[countertreason]

I suppose this fella is the most reasonable of the Muslim noise machine. Still, though, comparing genocidal tendencies to the completion of the annexation of a territory is embarrassingly stupid. Whether or not the full annexation of of what was known at the time of partition as 'Palestine' is right or not, it is not an evil agenda in the same way that Hamas or Hizbullah envision for the Israelis. One would literally have to be as stupid as our leftists to think otherwise.

[phooey108]

Riz, your patience is admirable.

[phooey108]

Riz nailed him at the end. Why does Horowitz lambast others for hate speech when he allows his own website to be used as a platform for bigotry?

[jeffhickman10]

Why is it that the Liberal crowd who:A.) Makes excuses for radical Islam B.) Insults the intelligence of those who disagree with them 3.) NEVER hesitates to put down Christians for their beliefs. Why does ANYONE give them an audience? These people (radical islamists and yes, LIBERALS) are very dangerous. Did you ever hear ANY of them admit to radical islam being a problem? As if it doesn't really exist.

[TomerMMHA]

This is what Horowitz mentioned when he talked about Al Jazeera celebrating a man who bashed in the head of a little girl. The reason Kuntar did that, and the reason Al Jazeera condones the bashing of the girl's head, is the fact that this little girl was a Jew. /watch?v=SIkrQGz5ats

[Reporter40]

I'm not Jewish or a Muslim (agnostic), so let's see if I can simplify things.

So the one question that David Horowitz always asks (do you condemn Hamas as a genocidal organisation?) deserves a simple answer:

Your people stole land and is oppressing a certain arab population. On the other hand, Muslims are horrific too: they oppress their own people. You deserve eachother.

But why don't the students choose for west-oriented Israel? Easy, Jews are way too sneaky.

[ImTehWord]

@Reporter40 cba to debate you or anything, just let me simplify things for you.

hamas and hizbullah publicly said that they want to destroy the jewish state (and america).

he asks if they would condemn the organizations for that, not that sneaky.

[Reporter40]

@ImTehWord And Israel tries to destroy the Palestines.But they are not doing it otherwise they'll lose the support of the west. They are at war and I don't see why I should choose Israel over the Arabs. David H. is basicallly asking everybody to choose his side. Why should I? It's a Jew/Arab war. They should sort it out by themselves.

And yes, David H. is the persona of filthy methods himself. He's the very reason people hate Jews.

[ImTehWord]

@Reporter40 israel is trying to destroy the palis, but they arent doing it? now thats a paradox.

as i said, i have no point in arguing with someone who knows absolutely nothing about this conflict.

most jews dont care what god says aswell, they need a country.

1947 partition plan was accepted by israel, and not by the arabs.

jews wanted to share the land, arabs didnt.

[Reporter40]

@ImTehWord Yeah, there you said it: jews need a country. So hey, let's steal it from the arab's and after they stole it, they are going to share it. Right :)

[ImTehWord]

@Reporter40 there was never a country called palestine.

it has always been occupied by foreign superpowers.

[Reporter40]

@ImTehWord I know. That's why I never wrote the word "Palestine". However, I'm mentiion the word "Palestines" to specify a group of Arabs.

[ImTehWord]

@Reporter40 so go blame brits, turks and so on.

also go blame jordan whose 70% of the population is palestinian.

[Reporter40]

@ImTehWord I'm aware of their influence on this. However, Israel has most of the cards now. One of them is to stop making more settlements. The other is to stop ignoring UN"s resolutions. When Israel can do that, then Israel will have a lot less to be blamed for.

[ImTehWord]

@Reporter40 israel will follow the palestinians when they stop bombing civilians in various ways.

[Reporter40]

@ImTehWord Oh right, Israel stops stealing land when the Palestinians stop defending the Arab ground they're allowed to live on by fellow Arabs.

Also, you evaded my comment on the UN's resolutions :)

Oh wait, the UN is biased, right?

[ImTehWord]

@Reporter40 defending? you call murder of civilians defense?

they arent allowed to live at neighboring arab countries.

i cant find your comment about the un, copy it to here.

and ye, the un is fucking biased towards israel since 67 or so.

[greenghost2008]

Hussein Ibish has no arugment. makes mr horwitz look like a genuis by comparison

[umkh]

The good side to the interview is the fact that this tool was exposed for who he is, just another Israeli puppet. He is out there to target and carry out character

asassination on anyone who disagrees with his agenda, mostly on the issue of Israel/Palestine by criticising and questioning their affiliations. It's about time his affiliations and his extremist views are put into the spotlight.

[palinrocks65]

Why did the guy with the purple tie laugh when David said the terrorists have destroyed American's freedom- That was creepy, like he loved that idea!

[ElProximo]

This discussion is ruined/railroaded/sidetracked by the Muslim apologist who has one insincere trick: Horowitz owns a website that allows many different authors to publish many different opinions.

He then combs through these - finds several controversial or disliked opinions.

Then keeps hammering Horowitz to explain and justify such opinions.

Stupid.

Just pathetic and ruined everything.

Very insincere trick too. He actually acts like its so obvious yet he knows its a dishonest 'argument'.

[umkh]

i suppose you prefer to see him interviewed on the likes of Fox news, who instead of conducting a proper interview, would just agree with his extremist views and help to push further his zionist neo-con agenda.

It's about time this guy was given a taste of his own medicine. He is continuously targeting professors and civil rights groups for their alleged links to so called 'terrorist organisations' when he himself supports the apartheid, terrorist state of Israel.

Hypocrite!

[ElProximo]

That is not a 'taste of his own medicine' or some kind of 'turnabout is fair play' situation you are describing.

He doesn't go on Fox News to debate Huffington by researching all the other authors that have published articles on her website.

[Muslim4Lyfe64]

You have to condemn Hamas, but let's see Israel condemned? what abunch of crap, Israel deserves to be nuked.

[desiameer]

Nuking all the people of Israel would be the same as what THEY are doing.

[laallaal75]

isreal has been condemned by the pathetic U.N many many times. and wat did israel do other than defend itself from terrorists?

[ElProximo]

Okay.. so you condemned Israel.

So now let's here you condemn HAMAS?

Can you?

Don't worry about anyone else condemning anyone else.. that is their problem and they can answer themselves.

Will YOU condemn HAMAS now?

[desiameer]

Horrowitz is an Israeli not an American.

[CHF2]

What a shameless hypocrite Horowitz is!

He says the Muslims want to destroy the Jewish state but at the same time refuses to grant the Palestinians of the West Bank their own state.

[hairybeast101]

wow... can there be more moronic people on this planet than horowitz

[desiameer]

Nope, he is the biggest.

[frost122585]

Horowitz gave all facts- the other guy just tried to form clever arguments and talk over Horowitz every time he was making an important point.

[frost122585]

Horowitz TELLS THE TRUTH. Where is the critics of the evil Maniacs on their side!?

[desiameer]

haha. You must be his wife.

[frost122585]

You must be disinterested in the facts and the truth.

[desiameer]

Frost are you a muslim? You have to really be one or live with muslims. Unfortunately, in the entire human race, the phrase "walk a mile in my shoe" does not mean much, it can only work if you actually live in a different society and try to experience what others experience. Btw, I am a fraction of his age and i have lived half of life in a Christian Democracy and in Islamic republic society, plus have Jewish friends. Now, your turn.

Condemn this condemn. Condemn lunacy and ignorance.

[Guedingen]

Ex-lefties have a habit of turning into whackos

[LordVigeous666999]

lefties are wackos, so that makes sense if you think about it

and besides, horowitz isn't a wacko, I don't agree with him on all topics, but I couldn't describe him as crazy, hes done his homework, even if you disagree with his conclusion

[desiameer]

What homework? Saying that MSA school clubs are funded by Terrorists? hahah Maybe dog ate his homework. Go join MSA, you don't have to be in college. See, my view of life is if you don't understand someone or something than you join them so you can see their POV. See my comment below.

[LordVigeous666999]

Dude, at my University, we had a guest speaker that had experience living in a terrorist cell. He spoke quite plainly, and quite bluntly

The MSA was there, and they damn near caused a riot. I know what the MSA is all about. And if they are the same across the country, as the one at my school, that is bad

They were shouting names at the Jews that were there, and they pretty much started picking fights. It was only cause we had police at the event that stopped it from becoming a riot

[LordVigeous666999]

And I don't know if they are funded by terrorists, but they don't seem that opposed to what they are doing either

And don't you have to be a Muslim, to join the Muslim Student Association?

[desiameer]

My friend, you dont sound like someone who has studied at a university. How can you judge all MSA (they are all independent, i have been in 4 different MSA) by what occurred at your university? Isn't that generalizing. Oh one other thing 2 out of the 4 MSAs i was in, had more non-Muslims than Muslim students. And guess what few of them were Jewish as well. Do you want to know why? Because like i'm reiterating, MSA runs independently, whoever is the president tries to carry out their message....

[desiameer]

Mr. Horrowitz' claims are completely false. We were funded by the Univ, if anyone club that was being funded the most at all 4 colleges , it was the Jewish clubs. Check UCSB jewish club. And in my humble opin, there is nothing wrong being done by the jewish donors. So what is all this ruckus, like i said do your effin homework. Horrowitz' allegiance is with Israel,not humanity or any other noble fraternity.One last thing, condemn and oppose what? Why oppose what other ignorant people are doing?

[desiameer]

Most of the time it is governments who cause injustice, no one asks governments to condemn. First, commit to a noble cause then ask for condemnation or watever.

[LordVigeous666999]

What does studying at a university have to do with knowing what MSA is up to?

Again, I didn't say they were funded by terrorists. Nor did I say that all MSA organizations are identical and run exactly the same.

I shared what happened at my university, and I shared the mentality of the people in my MSA

You are generalizing, I am talking about a specific case, do you understand the distinction MR. University?

[desiameer]

So you are not generalizing?

"I know what the MSA is all about. And if they are the same across the country, as the one at my school, that is bad"

That's your comment? Man, own up to your words AT LEAST.

[desiameer]

Oh, one more thing, studying at a University has to do with everything. Your time spent should open your eyes if not at least give you the ability to see all three sides before generalizing based on your (media research). Like someone said there are three sides to every story my side, your side, and the TRUTH.

[LordVigeous666999]

Dude, I said IF. IF, they are the same, across the country, then its bad.

If the problems, I have seen, with my own eyes, is an institutional thing, its a problem.

If it was just the people at my MSA, then thats one thing. Horowitz is saying, its not just my MSA.

And he has gotten a lot of flack for what hes said. And if there is one thing I do know, if the media indicates one thing, (horowitz is wrong), then you should assume the exact opposite to be true (horowitz is right)

[lieberat]

Huh ? Condemn Hamas n Hizbollah ?

They never started wars and IDF has been attacking them !

[xxashyy]

A "moderate" Muslim is a Muslim who is a collaborator with the US government and Israel. They're really "house" Muslims or a "Step In Fetch it" type of Muslims for the powers at be. Also Horowitz loves to get people to denounce Hamas and Hezbollah as so called "Terrorists". I wouldn't do that until Jew Zionist's like Horowitz denounce the IDF or the Israeli government as terrorists.

[desiameer]

Okay, no one has ever yet. said it better than yourself. Kudos.

[bears132]

riz khan sucks dick, wont speak out against injustice

[tonyschmoeredux]

What indoctus41 dislikes is that D.Horowitz speaks accurately. The Palestinian nationalist movement was created for the purpose of exterminating Jews. So-called Palestinian territories are segments of Arab countries, Egypt, Jordan, etc., that they lost when they lost the wars they started with Israel. Now the "Palestinians" use civilian-targeted terrorist attacks while hiding behind women and children. They are characterless, cowardly, unmanly faggots.

[indoctus41]

People with limited intellectual ability cannot make a profit by trying to be reasonable. He is only invited on programs because he's controversial, not because he's smart or thoughtful.

Trying to obtain anything mind provoking from this man is like trying to make a meal out of yesterday's garbage.

[Y2KCIA]

This interview is very revealing. They will not answer Horowitz's points or questions. Instead, Ibish brings up stray comments from the website, and ignores the incredibly obvious linkage of this student group to the muslim brotherhood. Both the host and Ibish changed the route of the discussion away from Horowitz's main point several times. Ibish is articulate, but intellectually deficient when it comes to the real situation at hand.

[ulsterscot]

I agree...the left are articulate but complete cowards.

[aftabahsan]

y shud we criticize hamas... wen extremist zionist organizations in isreal/soldiers commit hate crimes and carryin a genocide....and no zionist in the US criticizes them.. u cant see double standards there...hamas got elected democratically... if u will kill my mother i have every right to kill urs if there us no justice system available as in the case of palestine....they are being opressed but obviously u guys too much of fox news..

[desiameer]

Agreed. Israel wont stop and neither will the Palestinians. Remember israel is an island in the sea of arabs. It should do its best to become friends with everyone.

[bears132]

David Horowitz is spot on. Hussein Ibish is an obese slob who lies throughout the video. Riz Khan, to no surprise, still has not condemned the murderer Samir Kunta.

[desiameer]

another one, hahah condemn. hahah.

[raccoonbrat]

I checked out Horowitz's web site and he is correct! In fact he probably doesn't stress the danger that Islam presents to the world in its attempt to control the world. Anyone who reads the Qua'ran knows that Mohammad commands to spread Islam by the sword. Dr. Ibish in this clip is practicing taqiyya like a good Muslim should. I find it sad that Islam finds it cannot be honest about it's teachings. Of course war is deceit as Mohammad said.

[vincentbluegrey]

David Horowitz is a loose cannon

[simply2ghetto]

If Horrorwitz had been sitting next to riz instead of Hussien i can imagine he would have lost it and smacked the shit out of him for acting like a child.

Horrorwitz : Samir kuntar, the muslim terrorist. What a homer moment.

[copadeleche]

I have always found it ironic when I hear David Horowitz say "don't interrupt me"

[caelarent]

Horowitz' foot is lodged so deep in his mouth he'll need the jaws of life to get it out. I can't believe this clown is considered an intellectual. A Palestinian state in Jordan? How about one in ... Palestine, just maybe?

[gavrilo2007]

Well put.

[electango]

Why is that fat slob Hussein Ibish even there? Can't Riz Khan handle Horowitz?

[newmanfrigan]

David Horowitz should never, ever be given a platform to spread his fascist "theories".

[spee9]

lol what the fuck is this mumbo jumbo kahuna gorilla music in the beginning>?

[gavrilo2007]

Are you kidding? It's North Indian drumming. And it's cool. And you're a douche.

[bears132]

yes i had the same thoughts!

[michaelmage]

Gawd Horowitz just does not get it ... IT being the fact that he is responsible for the content and dissemination of the content of his website.

Hussein Ibish owns this Jewish Extremist Riz is to be commended for his tolerance to this idiot.

Great stuff

ps ... Get assayed at a Bone Donor clinic.

[mostpacifistic]

Its amazing that Riz can keep his temper.

[feareddead]

hes very cool minded; especially his attitude towards the callers.

[eldaivloxxx]

people should let other finish before they start talking (that goes to both of them) calm the hell down and stop acting like kids.

[RAPMONSTAR]

the key is to coversate and to try to change peoples minds instead of fighting over an issue.. but I guess that can be kind of tough..

[majdal1]

Hussein Ibish was amazing! I admire this man.

David Horowitz did not have even one valid argument.

[tarevac]

All people in the world should know that there are extrimists in every religion and every society in the world. Jews, like Mr. Horowitz, is one type of Jewish extremists. Of, course Muslim society produced some extremists, but so did Christian and Jewsh and others. Hitler is just one example of how negative ideology can impact on human societies. Unfortuntelly Hitler killed so many milions of people that belongs to different religions and ethnicities. I, as Muslim, am against any kind of violenc

[segits]

Stalin had killed even more people than Hitler, and America sided with him, and thus in a way justify his actions more than any other foreign political madman.

[Gramra]

Most of the Muslims i've talked to seem to dislike Israel and Hamas.

[assassin3d]

it is funny that horowitz the clown and his zionazi brethren attack islam and the prophet. quote hadith and what it condemned, yet they neglected what the bible said. remember what reverend John Hagee the top supporter of bush and mccain said in one of his sermon's

[assassin3d]

"Then god sent a hunter. A hunter is someone with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter. And the Bible says -- Jeremiah writing -- 'They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks,' meaning there's no place to hide. And that might be offensive to some people but don't let your heart be offended. I didn't write it, Jeremiah wrote it. It was the truth and it is the truth. How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen?

[assassin3d]

Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel."

'And they the hunters should hunt them,' that will be the Jews. 'From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.' If that doesn't describe what Hitler did in the holocaust you can't see that."

did Horowitz forget that the new-cons agenda is to get the jews into the land of palestine for their apocoliptic agenda?

[RAPMONSTAR]

so when did the jews stop beign opresed and start opressing?

[Reporter40]

@assassin3d Nobody cares anymore, but a few lobbyists, what your "God" says. Israel stole land. They are thieves. They should share the land.

[HugeJohn51]

Riz has one of the most balanced and even handed shows on television. Too bad more news networks weren't as objective and fair as Riz and Aljazerra. Keep up the good work.

[eldaivloxxx]

I know, man. he's good.

[Peacenik]

Kudos to Ibish for pointing out the hypocrisy of Horowitz's viewpoint.