The Scopes Trial Footage

[arzadi11]

it seems like yesterday... wait a minute .. it was yesterday, ...the religious people in power are still trying to keep people in the dark agaes.

[xn117]

a sad time for american history......

[luftigus]

Becharev is right

[luftigus]

The trial was a publicity stunt and Scopes did not teach evolution. That's why he did not testify. He helped to persuade some students to say that he taught evolution. The world's news media were duped and remain duped. For the true story see Chapter Three, "The Great Scopes Scam," of Eugene Windchy's The End of Darwinism.

[edgawne]

USA is such a scary place - I thought people so ardently believing in space gods and the holy scriptures of a neolithic tribe in the middle east didn't exist any more outside of the darkest recesses of Saudi Arabia. What the hell happened to standing on the shoulders of giants? As I understand it America was set up by great, great men who put religion on the back burner in order to lead world progress. When did the absolute bunch of chumps who are running the show now shoulder barge in?

[KenMacMillan]

Well, the first bunch of absolute chumps set up permanent camp here in 1607. The truth is that all of the founding fathers believed that religion was necessary for a virtuous & moral life. They feared a theocracy as much as a monarchy because they understood the oppressive nature of the absolute power of the church. Dayton Tennessee in 1925 is mild compared to the catholic church that the colonists fled or even protestant churches of colonial America. These things take time, lol.

[BoredGuyWithCamera]

Dude, the first settlers in 1607 were here for gold and TOBACCO. Plymouth and Massachusetts Bay were set up in New England as religious colonies. I don't think Thomas Jefferson or Franklin would agree with your assertion about religion being necessary for a virtuous/moral life.

[KenMacMillan]

"[R]eligion, or the duty which we owe to our creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and this is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity towards each other." --Virginia Bill of Rights, Article 16, 1776

[KenMacMillan]

"It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such homage, and such only, as he believes to be acceptable to him. This duty is precedent both in order of time and degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society. Before any man can be considered as a member of Civil Society, he must be considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe." --James Madison, A Memorial and Remonstrance, 1785

[KenMacMillan]

"Adore God. Reverence and cherish your parents. Love your neighbor as yourself, and your country more than yourself. Be just. Be true. Murmur not at the ways of Providence. So shall the life into which you have entered be the portal to one of eternal and ineffable bliss." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Jefferson Smith, 1825

[KenMacMillan]

"Determine never to be idle. No person will have occasion to complain of the want of time, who never loses any. It is wonderful how much may be done, if we are always doing. And that you may be always doing good, my dear, is the ardent prayer of yours affectionately." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Martha Jefferson, 1787

[KenMacMillan]

Benjamin Franklin's Vital Religion by Adam Kissel

home.uchicago. edu/~ahkissel/papers/franklinr­eligion.html

remove the spaces

[KenMacMillan]

I don't think religion is necessary for a virtuous/moral life. Most of the founders did. The only true atheist I can find is Thomas Paine.

[toddsmitts]

@edgawne Actually a good number of the "chumps" to whom you refer left office months ago. A few of those that remain continue to stand in the way of more rational people's efforts to help people.

[luftigus]

You got brainwashed. Scopes never taught evoluton. He pretended to have done so in order to please local businessmen who wanted to have a trial as a publicity stunt. The true story is in Chapter Three, "The Great Scopes Scam," in The End of Darwinism.

[luftigus]

The play is almost entirely fiction. Scopes never taught evolution. The true story is in Chapter Three of The End of Darwinism.

[imagewise]

The idea that one race, and in particular the white race, and especially the Nordic/Aryan/Teutonic/German sector, is superior to all others is total fallacy. But it was enthusiastically taught in American classrooms by Hunters Civic Biology, the textbook at the centre of the Scopes trial in 1925.

[gotch09]

@imagewise I don't think the aborigine were too well served by the invading British in Australia either, if I understand it correctly. 

[hierostratus]

Surely by now Darwin`s "theory" of the evolution of the species has been exposed for what it is, especially by mathematicians?

[Skaflar]

Lawl.

[dustybaboon]

Really? What makes you say that?

[lcswoosh]

You mean as a fact, right?

[LHeth8611]

very impressive footage of the scopes trial

[becharev]

In the UK many years ago I was taught that this was a publicity stunt to put Dayton on the map.

Forensic collusion in fact.

[thecall4]

not necessarily... city officials did play up the event for exposure, but i wouldn't call it a publicity stunt.

[fjoseyahoo]

no it was, i just researched its and it said that thy were cool with scopes since he was new to the town but they wanted publicity and he agreed

[amanda92821]

Some men in Dayton saw an ad saying that the ACLU would provide defense for any teacher willing to challenge the Butler Act, which made teaching Darwin's theory illegal. Business was slow, and, realizing that a trial would bring the town recognition, they asked local teacher John T. Scopes if he would be willing to challenge the act. (The book Scopes taught from included Darwin's theory.) At the time, however, they didn't realize that the trial would give the town worldwide recognition.

[NWHPjpplayer1]

@becharev scopes wasn't even the normal teacher, he was a substitute at the time and evolution was being taught already, it was in their text books

[CalfeeCousin]

Amanda, It is really cool to see the footage of the Scopes trial. My grandfather and great-grandfather attended the trail and told me stuff about it. Calfee Cousin

[tehbombhaslanded]

wowie, this is nice :)

[montycarlobabe]

Yea thats right amanda92821 this is cool that we get to see an actual footage from the 20s

[amanda92821]

its footage from the 1920s, do you expect it to be in high definition?

[sammiesaidthat]

well that sucked