60 mm direct lay

[mrdrfez]

How boot was the gunner?

[xrlrdr]

Marines are trained by the Army. When it's play-play sword fighting some dragons on a mountain commercial, call in the Marines. When it's some no-shiit serious, end-of-the-world, National Security sh'ite, call out the standard bearers -- the U.S. Army. As any Marine should know, you're not really a true Marine 'til you've been to an Army school and trained by the real professionals. When you can't train your own people, you're just amateurs.

[destroyedparadise1]

is this in arkansas?

[destroyedparadise1]

this place looks familiar

[WPGOD]

what kind of mortar is this besides a 60mm

[shomipinoy]

yah national guard... not really

[mrrossn]

I humped one of those Guns all over Afghanistan & Iraq, In your gun teams does the gunner carry the Cannon and the Biopod or was that just us paratroopers being well us.

[gutz0369]

Why isnt the gunner bracing the bipods and dont move so fast you look like a blue blur

[crimsondragonwu]

could you guys calm down a bit? you're a little too enthusiastic there.

[Uparmored81]

That was the weakest gun drill I have ever seen

[intruder974]

This is funny.

[cmsmith0341]

How about a little motivation! This must be the Army. If my mortar section acted like this pathetic bunch of pogues I would have run them till they puked. 0341! Semper Fi!

[mistalundeen]

on a serious note, im a marine mortarmen for 9 years now, this is by far the absoulte worst gun squad/mortar section i have ever seen. hello people, we fire these rounds to support our infantry brothers up close in the fight and in harms way. with that in mind, where is the sense of urgency, accuracy and effects on target? maybe these guys dont care if our people get killed. it doesnt matter if it is just training. if this is how YOU train, this is how YOU fight. you soldiers suck.

[spoloon]

i should make a weaker version of that and fire tennis balls into a field or dummy rounds.

[x10thmtn214x]

It's obvious these guys are just going through the motions, my section Seargent would have been pissed.

[jaykaleb26]

I am in the ARMY and also a 11C i have been to m lock. this is the worst team even if u were just put together. Being a 11c means u can work with any other 11c. and the plt sgt is a wack.

[PVTTomb150]

I see an 81 in the middle. Is that 3rd gun a 120?

[tapper45]

gotta train before you can fight.

experts were trained and then trained some more.

2nd shot, wait for him to HANG AND CONFIRM before telling him to fire.

you gave the order to hang, he copied WHILE he was hanging it and then you told him to fire before he had actually hung it.

we gotta remember that sometimes our guys are just blindly repeating what we're saying.

we have to control and master the situation to prevent negligent occurences.

[greenbaybudbowel]

guy on the right does sound like a bitch

[planesareawsome]

How far do these things shoot? 1 mile? 1/4 mile? I dunno.

[yairmottes]

@planesareawsome

about 800 m' wich is about 0.5 mile

[luckyStrike89ru]

The guy on the right sounds like a bitch....

[wolfyys]

they sound enthusiastic lol

[drbable1]

ok! just a first practice,but they sound like they've smoked something

[jlanier2012]

thirdly, they're supposed to be firing for effect (FFE)... way too slow... if there were troops in contact (tic) they would have been pissed off at how slow these guys are. Its ridiculous. We train like we fight, hard, ruthless, effective....not slow... this is just one more reason why the marines get the job done......and we get the job done far more efficiently and far better... plus we're just hard asses.

[gosciu555]

@jlanier2012

Get the job done where though guy? You don't even have any APCs and only a few tanks you got from the army.

[jlanier2012]

these guys really don't know what they were doing. I am a marine.... a trained mortarman, with over six years in the marine corps...active duty. I have served in iraq, when there was actual combat to experience. for one, the gunner should be holding the bipods, secondly.... they are using a training/ practice round...that's just gay.

[drbable1]

@jlanier2012

not gay,just cheaper

everybody have to learn

[freddymagick]

@jlanier2012 I don't see any reason to need to hold the bipod legs with the exeption of having a higher elevation before the baseplate is settled other then that you should be fine. Also all we could get was the training rounds. You should deploy to Afghanistan it would make you miss Iraq. I have been to both.

[austinporter100]

@freddymagick since you have been to both, whats worse, iraq or afhganistan?

[Creed85]

@jlanier2012 they dont need to hold the bipod legs the baseplate is already settled and the elevation isnt high enough or low enough to even worry about the legs jumping out. I'm a 60mm section sergeant in the army, and these dudes your right are terrible....but thats a National Guard patch....so I'm not suprised...

[yairmottes]

@Creed85

give the guys a break.

it might be their first training ex.

[getemhi]

@jlanier2012 You are a Marine. This is ARMY. Things are done differently in the ARMY. I was in both the Marines.... then ARMY. You would be surprised how different the two are.

[swertinge07]

@jlanier2012 Gay to train...?

[SgtCraigHart1]

@jlanier2012 exactly! they are training. they are learning what to do. leave them alone

[MrElmataviejas]

@jlanier2012 Hey man, I neve touched a morter in my life and I can asure you that I would hit the target with my first shoot.

[nomadnametab]

@jlanier2012 maybe they are no-go's getting introduced to mortars. i was in mi in the regulars years ago and they had us out there learning to use mortars, hmg and , you will love this, the m-67 90 mm. stuff we didnt get in basic or a.i.t.....for these guys it may be their one and only training on it. dont know how they do things today.

[Cypherr828]

@jlanier2012 That's because they're Army. Semper fi.

[santikitiky]

@jlanier2012 did u kill someone?

[mrdrfez]

@jlanier2012 I'll give them some leeway since its direct lay, but still, even SOI boots are faster than this.

[kiwitedferny]

What's the max range on those 60mm?

[Creed85]

@kiwitedferny 3490 meters

[PrivateTomb]

Don't pull it out until your ready to fire it. That was good. Good Job guys. Making all of us 11C proud one shot at a time =)

[freddymagick]

were actually slow on purpose.

we were all just throwen together to serve in Afganistan and just started working as a team

[stitch3315]

lol these guys are slow!

[duffinsmert]

cool,i always liked artillary and stuff.what kind are the huge mortars thats are like cannons and how much damage can a 600mm round do

[PrivateTomb]

the biggest actual "mortar round" is 120mm. I believe a 600mm round would blow a tank to oblivion. Also, the big cannons are a totally different MOS. This is 11C. Field Artillery is 13B I think.

[ken702]

@PrivateTomb Check out Russia's tulpan mortar. Its quite large.

[PrivateTomb]

@ken702 lol

[alzlon]

@PrivateTomb the germans had one that was 600mm. it was called the Mörser Karl. but yes the 120mm is one of the largest in the US inventory.

[bass1777]

how much damage will a 60mm mortar do?

[shmodzilla]

to people a lot, to a tank, not much unless you ring ther ebell a bit. These are training rounds