Psh, I WISH I could afford all that food. I just eat rice, green beans and ketchup. It's affordable! :D SOMETIMES I eat fast food and junk food, but rarely. xD
I lived in a neighbourhood boy who was extremely obese. His mother was Italian and thought it was healthy that he was overweight and fed him six full meals a day.
@chriselladeville no the equivalent would be if the kids were being starved. Anorexia is not about the parents not feeding their children in the same way that obesity is directly because they feed their kids too much.
And to think I would have been a foster child if this law was in place. Ugh, it's not the parent's fault. Or at least it wasn't my parent's fault that I was obese as a kid; I just rebelled by eating things I wasn't supposed to. And guess what... I'm not obese anymore. -.-
France now says obese boys hate their mothers. I say it's just too much petroleum products in life, and not enough getting outside to play. But what do I know?
I was a foster kid for 13 years and most of the time they're WORSE than the biological parents. Many of them are abusive. A lot of foster parents are in it just for the additional money. The less money they spend taking care of the kids, the more they can put in their pockets. There ARE some decent ones, but far and few between.
@lesslove4u I was generalizing. Being over weight is a stigma on a reaction to another cause. There are diseases that cause complications with the weight of people. But with our current horrible medical system they does not treat most real problems that pertain to this. We only treat symptoms, it is still up to the individual to a just or his or her diet and or lifestyle. know this can be hard especially if you are in an un natural office 8 hours a day.
The parents are probably neglecting themselves too, they just don't know
or can't afford good habits. And "genetic disposition" is very rare, they didn't have it a long time ago, and being at 200 in third garde may be a little more than that. But what is true is there are habits that go on for generations. Don't take the parents away! Teach them to take care of their own kids! And if we start doing this, what will be next? I've never heard of a perfect parent.
I agree to this conversation and debate. Where is the line here? Was it crossed? yes!! If you can afford McDonald's you can afford salads and smoothies, made at home. Lack of education, and support from the family.
Enough is enough. Take the kids from the mothers because they are mothers like they do with fathers. How dare the gov assume that they are better parents when they cannot be keep their finances straight. Let them take kids who have gay/lesbian parents, parents who are members of the republican or democratic parties. I'm sorry but the kids aren't the problem it is gov.
@DJAliasSin Dude! I have Hypothyroidism, makes me a wee bit over weight no matter what I eat. I have to exercise to help fight the disease along with my medication. Open your freaking mind idiot.
@SerinkNight I won't give you an answer, I do not like the negativity. It is not needed. But if you like you can read my response I just gave to the other person. thank you
@salmonmcmannis Parents don't have a right to abuse children. If you abuse children then you lose you right to be their guardian. If you are against that, then YOU ARE PROMOTING VIOLENCE AGAINST CHILDREN!!! YOU SICK FUCK!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! (see, I can write just like you ;)
@salmonmcmannis A child cannot elect to stay with their parent if their parent is abusing them. Funny how you are trying to excuse the violence of parents on children and you accuse me of violence. You're an idiot.
@salmonmcmannis They don't all want to return home you abusive shit and some of them are brainwashed or just don't know any better. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE KIDS, you dumb fat twat.
@salmonmcmannis You are the one making the threats. Threats to innocent helpless children. Bottom line: you try to hurt a child, and there will be a mob of people ready to fuck you up fatty.
@salmonmcmannis Did I say that???? No. Just asserting that there is no accountability and burden of proof does not make it true. You also assume that children automatically go to foster care. Not true. They can go to next of kin. Care of children can be given to other family members.
@salmonmcmannis Taking them from the "family" that is abusing them, does help them. Just because you know how to stick your dick inside a girl, doesn't make you automatically fit to be a parent or have a family. Child molesters and drunk abusers of children don't have a right to abuse kids. YOU FUCK!!!
@salmonmcmannis Under the LAW we are permitted. Just asserting that CPS "drums up allegations" doesn't make it true. And the fact is that child abuse does occur and in many cases is apparent. Ex. bruises, or pregnancies. The fact that you disregard these abuses and care more about going after CPS, just shows how bankrupt your morals are.
@salmonmcmannis No, you know what's SICK? Is that you would allow children to be abused because you don't trust CPS. You would rather have young girls raped and stay silent in their pain, then to help them. You're disgusting.
@salmonmcmannis I am in favor of child removal by the state if the cases are extreme. I'm not talking about chubby children here, I'm talking about really really obese children and with the exception of medical causes.
@salmonmcmannis "not permitted to dictate physical activity" Oh? Like beating a child? Or not feeding it? No, parents don't have complete sovereignty over their children. There are limits. And over feeding your child with fatty foods and then neglecting them to the point of extreme obesity, is one of those limits.
@salmonmcmannis well if we ask the children where they want to stay it would be like asking a druggie if they want to stay in the crack house and btw i don't agree with taking them away but getting them to a rec facility after school and forcing them to jog play sports etc you might argue that that's costly but wasting 59 fucking percent of our money on military isint very effective either as for your child molester statement people have logic moral and common sense use them
@salmonmcmannis What threats? I never said that fat people can't defend themselves. Did your fat get to your brain because you aren't making any sense.
@salmonmcmannis That is factually wrong. Obese is not a healthy weight, nor do overweight people live longer. That is completely false. There is no correlation between weight and health??????!??? ROTFL. Wow. You couldn't be more wrong. Everything you said is completely backwards.
@MyTemporaryAccount88 Some people's bodies might turn calories into fat far more efficiently than others, but that just means they have to have a stricter diet and more active lifestyle. Of course there are rare exceptions were a disability gets in the way or the body just stores fat in an extreme manner but that is rare.
@salmonmcmannis Those are the facts jack... and I'm quite aware most foster parents are religious loons that shouldn't be anywhere near kids, I never claimed he'd be "happier and safer".
@RealityGrapple nice language and are you sure you know who hitler how im i hitler if i didint make the rules in the first place and p.s keep your kid healthy
Over feeding your child is abuse, they could get diabetes and other medical complications. I've been watching these things, they are so...I can't describe it. The tram experince one, they said it was okay to be racist basically, and they said 'people being gay' and the women laughed. They disgust the hell out of me, how can two people be so horrible?!
I think the Statists here need to study the nature of corruption and state abuse of power a little harder before handing parenting rights to the state. Have you even looked at their track record with that?
@JesseHopkinsComposer That's misleading... any of these rare (extremely rare) genetic markers will not make a person obese given proper diet and exercise, these "genetic markers" are more common in the non-obese and less than 1-1000 obese people in America have these "markers". Most of America suffers from severe confirmation bias regarding this issue.
No such thing as "genetic predisposition" for obesity and I defy anyone to show any evidence for that nonsense... this is what you get when you get your facts from Oprah and believe any nonsense that suits your view.
their is no such thing as genetically fat- u only become fat when u put to much in your mouth. and yes it is child abus emaking a child fat it is teh parents fault through either stupidy ignorance or lack of care. what have they done to that child- ade it much more likley to be diabetic arthrtic and yes fat kids are dumb kids--plus as a fat kid it will be a fat adult. which means it will only be able to choose from teh bottom of teh breeding pile- fat men
Hey, kubush: FUCK YOU. Not only is it none of anyone's business but the parent's what they are feeding their children, but this kind of bullshit regulation could lead to parents DEPRIVING THEIR CHILDREN OF ADEQUATE NUTRITION FOR FEAR OF LOSING THEIR CHILDREN. Which one is worse, you fucking douchebag? Your stupidity disgusts me.
Even with a "genetic predisposition" weight can be controlled. There is no excuse to allow your child to become extremely obese. That is child neglect, no doubt about it.
there is a serious problem with foods today, blame genetically modified foods, and damn corn syrup, I swear to every religion and beyond that back in my day if you look at my childhood school pictures, there are no fat kids, it is the shit they are putting into our foods.If you agree with them taking away the fat kid then you should count in all the anorexic kids, belemia kids,and well why not just count everyone in. We are becoming UN-American
Genetics is in the back seat. The real thing is the law of conservation of mass and the law of conservation of energy. You can't get overweight like that without consuming to many calories. Simple as that.
@RealityGrapple If your kid is obese, then you're a neglectful parent and shouldn't be having children. You should have been fixed as a teenager to prevent you from breeding. The world is crowded enough without idiot parents bringing kids into this world without taking proper care of them.
You know what, I don't think it's such a stupid idea in some cases... despite what others might say, it IS neglect if you overfeed your kids to such an extreme. They are neglecting their childs health so badly that they are almost guaranteed to be setting up their child to a lifetime of obesity related problems and early death. The consequences of this might be further off than if you starve a child, but the final effect is the same!
A genetic predisposition does not in and of itself cause obesity. Fuel is required. A Ferrari has a predisposition to hit 200 mph but it's going nowhere on an empty tank.
Frozen vegetables are just as nutritious and often more nutritious than their fresh counterparts. Are frozen greens unaffordable in America?
So, basically America governments are taking away obese children. Is the US deciding who is free and who is not free depending on our weight now? Wow. And we're supposed to be the greatest country out there...
Instead of taking the kids out of the home, why not help the parents learn about proper nutrition and exercise so they can help their child, taking them away to be put in foster care is wrong!
First off predisposition simply means he is genetically prone to it. Research shows that proper DIET & Exercise not only prevents it but it can also diminish it. Also with today's awareness on nutrition there is no excuse for making your child morbidly obese. I can bet money that this child doesnt have a predisposition his mother simply feeds him food rich in saturated fat.
I completely disagree with this. First of all, it's entirely possible that medical issues were looked into prior to removing the child. Child welfare is not able to discuss the case with the public due to issues with confidentiality, and thus cannot defend it's position, except to the proper authorities.
Second of all, 200 lbs on a third grader isn't merely obese. 100 lbs would be obese. 200 lbs is life-threatening, and must be taken very seriously.
is it safe to assume that 9 out of the 10 kids who are obese just have a disorder? or is it more likely their shitty parents are the culprit? i never said these things shouldnt be investigated first; acting without proper knowledge wouldnt be recommended by anyone but when a kid is adult weight and more in grade school a normal person backs the train up.if youre that deficient in health knowledge and childcare maybe just maybe you really dont need to reproduce the knowledge is there if you care
Thats fucked up considering its not always the parents fault. Kids can struggle with their weight just as much as adults do, and to take custody from the parents from something so Petty is just ridiculous.
There are clearly more pressing matters in this world. Go catch the teachers who are fucking the boys... -_-
@salmonmcmannis No, people who would do such a thing are the ones with the problem. Its a mental illness they have that is harming the child. If a parent was a sexual predator wouldn't you want the child to be removed from danger? You are naive to believe that some people are just fucked up.You have to recognize that these cases are extreme examples and have to be talked about on a case by case basis and generally saying that the parents are in the right is ridiculous.sometimes parents are wrong
obviously there is something going on if this 8 year old weighs over 200. I'm 5'9" and a bit chubby and I'm not 200 and my 10 yearold daughter is HWP 72#'s. But if you look at the misinformation about nutrision fostered by the government and the HORRIBLE and unhealthy school lunches you can understand the challenges families face. That being said this family obviously needs help; a more cost effective use of money & more humane would be to help the family not separate them.
I dont feel child protective services were in the wrong removing the child from the home.maybe they could have enrolled him a camp or diet program at a facility where the parents could visit and take classes as well.im curious as to the weight of the parents.that would be a good indication of the childs eating habits.but 200 lbs as a 3rd grader is extreme.he had to have gotten to this weight somehow.why didnt the parents get help when the child got to 100 lbs??
Educate the parents, don't take the kid away. Being taken away from your parents creates large amounts of stress which will only exacerbate their weight problem
@salmonmcmannis so i guess parents have the right to abuse their kids huh? that makes sense? you did say ANY right... so fuck them let them all get fat and die, the government in some cases has the duty to get involved, but in this case family support is needed not taking their kid away but hey i am Canadian, we do not have that many fatties here, so when all the Americans are so fat they can not see their own feet the world will be a safer place...
this is a youtube comments page. therefore, it is meant for commentary, opinions and critism from EVERYBODY. i can say WHATEVER i want, and YOU cant stop me! you dont know me, and you're juding me and a bunch of other people for their opinions. um are YOU the parent of this kid? That's what I thought, so you've got about as much right to judge on it as I do. In some cases, when you have a glandular problem or youre bigboned, obesity iss uncontrolloble. They didnt say that here
@no2religions Actually, the cheapest foods are loaded with crap like high fructose corn syrup, which is a major factor in obesity, so you don't know what you're talking about.
"And fyi eating less can make you fatter, your telling your body less food is available therefore it ends up storing it" that would be near starvation. not healthy b) yes people are naturally big and skinny just like they are tall and short,.
As a vegetarian living in a house full of vegetarians, I can say our grocery bill for three people is 200 dollars. That's 800 dollars a month. That's a rent check, people. It's not fucking cheap.
But like seriously, how can the government decide that I'm not feeding my kid right when they just passed PIZZA as a vegetable?!?!?! LIke make up your dam minds.
Yeah I know That..but it is ridiculous to say that eating PROPERLY in THIS country (usa) is cheap...cause is not. is not cheap at all. and YOU SHOULD know that..so why are you saying that it is? if you wanna eat healthy you gotta pay up fruit and vegetables are expensive.
I'd rather they took kids out of physically abusive or sexually abusive homes than a home where they're getting too much too eat and too many video games for Christmas. The foster system is already flooded with children that really need to be there because their parents are evil or unqualified. Why is it we can take away this kid so easily...but kids being raped or beaten nearly to death we can't touch?
If your child is fat it is your fault and your responsibility. You should be punished for it. By leeting the kid become obese you are shortening their life and giving them medical problems, how is that not child abuse!?
@joefish41 SOmetimes people are really just that dumb and they don't get it...i think it says something about the nutritional values of the average American family and how expensive healthy eating really is. they shouldn't take children away from their families maybe instead teach a family to be healthy. they are gonna go to a place that has no nutritional insight anyway is not like they are going to be put in a place that KNOWS nutrition.
Genetic disposition lol. Its called lack of exercise and motivation to be healthy. Also I DO think it's the parents fault. If they cant afford to feed their child properly, then don't have children. Its not fair to the child to live his life ridiculed and obese because his parents have poor parenting skills
Society (represented by the state) has an interest in how a child is treated for two reasons. 1) the child is a citizen and the state's job is to protect its citizens. 2) the child is an investment (school, healthcare etc) by the society for its future. The society wants (or should want) healthy citizens who can return the investment in tax revenue. If its shown that an obese child has a horrible diet at home there should be some meassures taken to rectify and foster care should be a last resort
@omegavalerius Five long sentences in your post about about children and society and not a single mention about the parents of these children or their responsibility. That's sad.
There's no such thing as genetic obesity. If you take in more calories than you use in a day, you gain weight. It's impossible to gain weight any other way. Some people may have more efficient metabolisms than others, but that's not an excuse for a parent letting their child become obese.
That being said, foster care is more a punishment for the parent than help for the child. The foster parents aren't any better equipped to help an (already) obese child than the original parents were.
@DancingHorses26 The genetic markers for obesity have been identified. It's not impossible to gain weight in other ways, and your ignorance on the subject is no excuse, either.
@Dipstikk Liberals and Progressives started the school lunch program in the 1930's, next came the school breakfast and now in Memphis, TN their starting the school dinner program. Can the school midnight meal be far behind.
@DancingHorses26 What about genetic thyroid inflammation???? Hm??? Or certain types of cancer that go unnoticed and cause rapid, unrelenting weight gain in children???? You're dumb.
For some reason this reminded of Food, Inc. (I think, can't remember exactly) where the family stats that they didn't know rating fast food three times a day was bad for them. Also, for people who can't afford fresh vegetables, I spent four dollars today on over a hundred seeds for six different plants which will grow just fine in the house.
less than 10 percent of fat people hav a genetic problem, so that means 90 percent r just plain lazy, but dont blame the parents blame the fast food chains that spend millions of dollars every year marketing to children... high colesteral causes heart takes claiming almost as many lives as smoking,
what about a free 1 year gym membership (or something like that) and a promise if so and so many kilograms are lost by the end of the 1 year period, you get some award (like trip to disneyland or something)? every 3rd grader would try so hard to win the award.
A five year old does not have to be fat to be healthy, but no, the school had a talk with my parents because i was somehow too skinny. Sometimes it can be the parents fault as to why their child may be obese. I remember, as a kid growing up, my mother would make sure i would eat everything off the plate, even if i was full. I threw up twice because of that. I learned some really bad eating habits after some time. I'm 19, over weight, and struggling to reach average weight.
I think they should do a LOT of research before making a decision like this. I mean, that kid was 200 lb (more than me and I'm 20 years old! 21 in 2 months. lol). At the same time, you don't want to take the kid away and then find out it was genetics all along. Then again, I don't know if a government willing to feed kids pizza under the guise of it being a vegetable so they can save an extra buck should be taking away kids for being too fat...
wow, i cant help but laugh at you're comment reply to me. you're nothing but a hypocrite. you just said that i shouldn't judge the parents since i dont know them, well guess what? YOU DONT KNOW ME! mabye i could of had a loved one who died of heart problems from obesity, you dont know. and here you are judging me for what you're doing now. and you know what, YOU"RE NOT THE KID'S parent either, so you have no right to judge what anybody else says!
Wasn't there a story a few months back about some vegan parents who were also charged with neglect because they refused to give their child meat? You can't win!!
For fuck's sake people.... there's more than one reason why a person can be obese.
It's stereotypical to say it from food because you would have to explain the people than can eat as much as an obese person and not become obese themselves.
Politician take money away from education to dumb kids down so they won't learn simple shit like this. I can't believe CPS took away the kid just because he's obese. What facts did they have?! Did they contact the child's doctor?!!!!!!
Explain genetic predisposition. I think they just said that because child protective services also failed. I hate fat people that blame being fat on everything but eating terribly and not moving!
@TRauck1506 Oh yeah? Well, I hate people who immediately conclude that everyone must be lying, just because the idea that a fat person ISN'T guilty, and therefor cannot be justifiably punished, doesn't add up to them. If you have to make up an alternate scenario based on no evidence just to live in your own narrow-assed (dual pun!) bigoted world, then you're just grasping at straws, needle-digits.
Quit making excuses for your illogical bigotry, excuse-maker.
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jr2821 2 weeks ago
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billysandsquirrel 3 weeks ago
Psh, I WISH I could afford all that food. I just eat rice, green beans and ketchup. It's affordable! :D SOMETIMES I eat fast food and junk food, but rarely. xD
SonicTheRainboom 3 weeks ago
I lived in a neighbourhood boy who was extremely obese. His mother was Italian and thought it was healthy that he was overweight and fed him six full meals a day.
ghostframer 1 month ago
This is ridiculous! Plain and simple.
MrDeadcell84 1 month ago
Stress can also apparently lead to weight gain, thus taking a kid out of his/her home, wouldn't exactly help, if it was in fact a good home.
RyanGallagher5 1 month ago
"as usual i was right"
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so on this premise , children with anorexia should also be sent to live in foster homes ? .. WTF happened to common sense ???
chriselladeville 1 month ago
@chriselladeville no the equivalent would be if the kids were being starved. Anorexia is not about the parents not feeding their children in the same way that obesity is directly because they feed their kids too much.
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And to think I would have been a foster child if this law was in place. Ugh, it's not the parent's fault. Or at least it wasn't my parent's fault that I was obese as a kid; I just rebelled by eating things I wasn't supposed to. And guess what... I'm not obese anymore. -.-
LadyTeeJac 1 month ago
@LadyTeeJac And it's the parents' job to stop the rebelling just as it's their job to make sure you eat normally.
bluumberry 1 month ago
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@LadyTeeJac And it's the parents' job to stop the rebelling just as it's their job to make sure you eat normally.
bluumberry 1 month ago
France now says obese boys hate their mothers. I say it's just too much petroleum products in life, and not enough getting outside to play. But what do I know?
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TrendnTopiczVlog 1 month ago
I was a foster kid for 13 years and most of the time they're WORSE than the biological parents. Many of them are abusive. A lot of foster parents are in it just for the additional money. The less money they spend taking care of the kids, the more they can put in their pockets. There ARE some decent ones, but far and few between.
ldchappell1 1 month ago
@lesslove4u I was generalizing. Being over weight is a stigma on a reaction to another cause. There are diseases that cause complications with the weight of people. But with our current horrible medical system they does not treat most real problems that pertain to this. We only treat symptoms, it is still up to the individual to a just or his or her diet and or lifestyle. know this can be hard especially if you are in an un natural office 8 hours a day.
DJAliasSin 2 months ago
The parents are probably neglecting themselves too, they just don't know
or can't afford good habits. And "genetic disposition" is very rare, they didn't have it a long time ago, and being at 200 in third garde may be a little more than that. But what is true is there are habits that go on for generations. Don't take the parents away! Teach them to take care of their own kids! And if we start doing this, what will be next? I've never heard of a perfect parent.
Frenchcanadian100 2 months ago
I will bet you anything the public school this kid attends contacted CPS. Bet money on that!
LIFEGUARD805 2 months ago
I agree to this conversation and debate. Where is the line here? Was it crossed? yes!! If you can afford McDonald's you can afford salads and smoothies, made at home. Lack of education, and support from the family.
LIFEGUARD805 2 months ago
CLEAN UP THE FOOD TAKE OUT THE MANSANTO GMO
gonny417 2 months ago
Please, everyone, no more replies to kubush. It's really embarrassing; you all should recognize a troll when you see one.
thetubepro1 2 months ago
Enough is enough. Take the kids from the mothers because they are mothers like they do with fathers. How dare the gov assume that they are better parents when they cannot be keep their finances straight. Let them take kids who have gay/lesbian parents, parents who are members of the republican or democratic parties. I'm sorry but the kids aren't the problem it is gov.
usmcoth 2 months ago
Sorry to say, my parents would have been in a lot of trouble.
newdarnaccount 2 months ago
Genetic.... Really..? Come on that is complete BS! Fat Kids, Fat Parents, and McDonalds wins again!
DJAliasSin 2 months ago
@DJAliasSin Dude! I have Hypothyroidism, makes me a wee bit over weight no matter what I eat. I have to exercise to help fight the disease along with my medication. Open your freaking mind idiot.
SerinkNight 2 months ago
@SerinkNight I won't give you an answer, I do not like the negativity. It is not needed. But if you like you can read my response I just gave to the other person. thank you
DJAliasSin 2 months ago
I like the new studio... <3
I hate that it's headed by the retard ManBearPig, but I can get over it :P
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@RealityGrapple Like your mom?
johnny1893 2 months ago
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@salmonmcmannis Your sources please
johnny1893 2 months ago
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@salmonmcmannis Your sources please
johnny1893 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Your sources please
johnny1893 2 months ago
Children Screaming for help as CPS takes them for profit watch?v=uwjgiM2qPxw
salmonmcmannis 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis If you don't want your kids taken away, maybe you should STOP ABUSING THEM!!!
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Parents don't have a right to abuse children. If you abuse children then you lose you right to be their guardian. If you are against that, then YOU ARE PROMOTING VIOLENCE AGAINST CHILDREN!!! YOU SICK FUCK!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! (see, I can write just like you ;)
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis A child cannot elect to stay with their parent if their parent is abusing them. Funny how you are trying to excuse the violence of parents on children and you accuse me of violence. You're an idiot.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis They don't all want to return home you abusive shit and some of them are brainwashed or just don't know any better. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE KIDS, you dumb fat twat.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis You are the one making the threats. Threats to innocent helpless children. Bottom line: you try to hurt a child, and there will be a mob of people ready to fuck you up fatty.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Did I say that???? No. Just asserting that there is no accountability and burden of proof does not make it true. You also assume that children automatically go to foster care. Not true. They can go to next of kin. Care of children can be given to other family members.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Taking them from the "family" that is abusing them, does help them. Just because you know how to stick your dick inside a girl, doesn't make you automatically fit to be a parent or have a family. Child molesters and drunk abusers of children don't have a right to abuse kids. YOU FUCK!!!
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Under the LAW we are permitted. Just asserting that CPS "drums up allegations" doesn't make it true. And the fact is that child abuse does occur and in many cases is apparent. Ex. bruises, or pregnancies. The fact that you disregard these abuses and care more about going after CPS, just shows how bankrupt your morals are.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Writing in all caps doesn't prove your point. It only makes you look more crazy.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis And your fat ass will be shot if you try to continue abusing children.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis No, you know what's SICK? Is that you would allow children to be abused because you don't trust CPS. You would rather have young girls raped and stay silent in their pain, then to help them. You're disgusting.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis It's child abuse. Plain and simple.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Would you make the same argument for a father that rapes and molests his children?
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis I am in favor of child removal by the state if the cases are extreme. I'm not talking about chubby children here, I'm talking about really really obese children and with the exception of medical causes.
kubush 2 months ago
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@salmonmcmannis "not permitted to dictate physical activity" Oh? Like beating a child? Or not feeding it? No, parents don't have complete sovereignty over their children. There are limits. And over feeding your child with fatty foods and then neglecting them to the point of extreme obesity, is one of those limits.
kubush 2 months ago
@RealityGrapple You are the one blocking comments on your channel dipshit... Fail
Evil? Maybe I should show what kind of e-mail you send...
johnny1893 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis well if we ask the children where they want to stay it would be like asking a druggie if they want to stay in the crack house and btw i don't agree with taking them away but getting them to a rec facility after school and forcing them to jog play sports etc you might argue that that's costly but wasting 59 fucking percent of our money on military isint very effective either as for your child molester statement people have logic moral and common sense use them
geekforlifevandc 2 months ago
@RealityGrapple Butthurt bigot?
johnny1893 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Your sources please...
johnny1893 2 months ago
@RealityGrapple Godwin's law. You lose.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis What threats? I never said that fat people can't defend themselves. Did your fat get to your brain because you aren't making any sense.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis That is factually wrong. Obese is not a healthy weight, nor do overweight people live longer. That is completely false. There is no correlation between weight and health??????!??? ROTFL. Wow. You couldn't be more wrong. Everything you said is completely backwards.
kubush 2 months ago
I'm sorry, but there's like 1 in a billion people where it's not just as simple as consuming fewer calories to loose weight in a healthy manner.
MyTemporaryAccount88 2 months ago
@MyTemporaryAccount88 Some people's bodies might turn calories into fat far more efficiently than others, but that just means they have to have a stricter diet and more active lifestyle. Of course there are rare exceptions were a disability gets in the way or the body just stores fat in an extreme manner but that is rare.
kubush 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Those are the facts jack... and I'm quite aware most foster parents are religious loons that shouldn't be anywhere near kids, I never claimed he'd be "happier and safer".
Douglas1102 2 months ago
@RealityGrapple nice language and are you sure you know who hitler how im i hitler if i didint make the rules in the first place and p.s keep your kid healthy
geekforlifevandc 2 months ago
Over feeding your child is abuse, they could get diabetes and other medical complications. I've been watching these things, they are so...I can't describe it. The tram experince one, they said it was okay to be racist basically, and they said 'people being gay' and the women laughed. They disgust the hell out of me, how can two people be so horrible?!
neonkisses1999 2 months ago
I think the Statists here need to study the nature of corruption and state abuse of power a little harder before handing parenting rights to the state. Have you even looked at their track record with that?
JesseHopkinsComposer 2 months ago
Genetic markers on obesity have been identified.
JesseHopkinsComposer 2 months ago
@JesseHopkinsComposer That's misleading... any of these rare (extremely rare) genetic markers will not make a person obese given proper diet and exercise, these "genetic markers" are more common in the non-obese and less than 1-1000 obese people in America have these "markers". Most of America suffers from severe confirmation bias regarding this issue.
Douglas1102 2 months ago
No such thing as "genetic predisposition" for obesity and I defy anyone to show any evidence for that nonsense... this is what you get when you get your facts from Oprah and believe any nonsense that suits your view.
Douglas1102 2 months ago
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wakkaweeblewoot 2 months ago
their is no such thing as genetically fat- u only become fat when u put to much in your mouth. and yes it is child abus emaking a child fat it is teh parents fault through either stupidy ignorance or lack of care. what have they done to that child- ade it much more likley to be diabetic arthrtic and yes fat kids are dumb kids--plus as a fat kid it will be a fat adult. which means it will only be able to choose from teh bottom of teh breeding pile- fat men
superhealthy100 2 months ago in playlist Health
Hey, kubush: FUCK YOU. Not only is it none of anyone's business but the parent's what they are feeding their children, but this kind of bullshit regulation could lead to parents DEPRIVING THEIR CHILDREN OF ADEQUATE NUTRITION FOR FEAR OF LOSING THEIR CHILDREN. Which one is worse, you fucking douchebag? Your stupidity disgusts me.
thetubepro1 2 months ago
Even with a "genetic predisposition" weight can be controlled. There is no excuse to allow your child to become extremely obese. That is child neglect, no doubt about it.
kubush 2 months ago
CPS are immoral childknapper that rape kids!
Shonenut213 2 months ago
i like the echo
dirrenbb 2 months ago
way to vilify the parents. that'll teach discipline for sure.
comeclarityy 2 months ago
@RealityGrapple ih hes fat that's a good enough reason for him its neglect they make the rules not you
geekforlifevandc 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis Butthurt fatty? Go eat something
johnny1893 2 months ago
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there is a serious problem with foods today, blame genetically modified foods, and damn corn syrup, I swear to every religion and beyond that back in my day if you look at my childhood school pictures, there are no fat kids, it is the shit they are putting into our foods.If you agree with them taking away the fat kid then you should count in all the anorexic kids, belemia kids,and well why not just count everyone in. We are becoming UN-American
RonPauL4America2012 2 months ago
CPS kidnaps children. It's immoral.
MidNiteR32 2 months ago
Genetics is in the back seat. The real thing is the law of conservation of mass and the law of conservation of energy. You can't get overweight like that without consuming to many calories. Simple as that.
awesomemohawk 2 months ago
@RealityGrapple If your kid is obese, then you're a neglectful parent and shouldn't be having children. You should have been fixed as a teenager to prevent you from breeding. The world is crowded enough without idiot parents bringing kids into this world without taking proper care of them.
Muaguana 2 months ago
Granted, I'd try other options first, like the intense health and diet teaching, support and supervision of parents...
suracs 2 months ago
You know what, I don't think it's such a stupid idea in some cases... despite what others might say, it IS neglect if you overfeed your kids to such an extreme. They are neglecting their childs health so badly that they are almost guaranteed to be setting up their child to a lifetime of obesity related problems and early death. The consequences of this might be further off than if you starve a child, but the final effect is the same!
suracs 2 months ago
Some people just can't raise kids just like some people just can't drive.
We have tests for people who want to drive. Any irresponsible retard can have kids though.
RadicalAwesomeness 2 months ago
How is it neglect if the parents are "overfeeding" the kid? Shouldn't that be the opposite way around? I don't know logical thinking to me.
colinsilver105 2 months ago
Did TYT's trade their studio space in for a storage unit?
TEMPEWITNESS 2 months ago
I saw this story on yahoo before I saw
this here so I understand most of what they're saying.
SirPreyasThe619 2 months ago
A genetic predisposition does not in and of itself cause obesity. Fuel is required. A Ferrari has a predisposition to hit 200 mph but it's going nowhere on an empty tank.
Frozen vegetables are just as nutritious and often more nutritious than their fresh counterparts. Are frozen greens unaffordable in America?
truthiness2010 2 months ago
So, basically America governments are taking away obese children. Is the US deciding who is free and who is not free depending on our weight now? Wow. And we're supposed to be the greatest country out there...
Silverwolfstar15 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
hey cenk, always bragging about how you were right isn't very becoming, that kind of bragging reminds me of bill o, keep the ego in check bud.
deepfriedchocobo 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
Well you don't feed your kids enough, its neglect, feed them too much,it's neglect.
shitthrowingmonkey1 2 months ago
Instead of taking the kids out of the home, why not help the parents learn about proper nutrition and exercise so they can help their child, taking them away to be put in foster care is wrong!
networkmom 2 months ago
@networkmom You would be surprised by how many people don't care to "learn" anything these days.
zadkiel04 2 months ago
to everyone who disagrees with this:
First off predisposition simply means he is genetically prone to it. Research shows that proper DIET & Exercise not only prevents it but it can also diminish it. Also with today's awareness on nutrition there is no excuse for making your child morbidly obese. I can bet money that this child doesnt have a predisposition his mother simply feeds him food rich in saturated fat.
slimshadylady92 2 months ago
I completely disagree with this. First of all, it's entirely possible that medical issues were looked into prior to removing the child. Child welfare is not able to discuss the case with the public due to issues with confidentiality, and thus cannot defend it's position, except to the proper authorities.
Second of all, 200 lbs on a third grader isn't merely obese. 100 lbs would be obese. 200 lbs is life-threatening, and must be taken very seriously.
Mirm83 2 months ago
is it safe to assume that 9 out of the 10 kids who are obese just have a disorder? or is it more likely their shitty parents are the culprit? i never said these things shouldnt be investigated first; acting without proper knowledge wouldnt be recommended by anyone but when a kid is adult weight and more in grade school a normal person backs the train up.if youre that deficient in health knowledge and childcare maybe just maybe you really dont need to reproduce the knowledge is there if you care
narezul 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Thats fucked up considering its not always the parents fault. Kids can struggle with their weight just as much as adults do, and to take custody from the parents from something so Petty is just ridiculous.
There are clearly more pressing matters in this world. Go catch the teachers who are fucking the boys... -_-
DreNewz 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@salmonmcmannis No, people who would do such a thing are the ones with the problem. Its a mental illness they have that is harming the child. If a parent was a sexual predator wouldn't you want the child to be removed from danger? You are naive to believe that some people are just fucked up.You have to recognize that these cases are extreme examples and have to be talked about on a case by case basis and generally saying that the parents are in the right is ridiculous.sometimes parents are wrong
Occupyman 2 months ago
obviously there is something going on if this 8 year old weighs over 200. I'm 5'9" and a bit chubby and I'm not 200 and my 10 yearold daughter is HWP 72#'s. But if you look at the misinformation about nutrision fostered by the government and the HORRIBLE and unhealthy school lunches you can understand the challenges families face. That being said this family obviously needs help; a more cost effective use of money & more humane would be to help the family not separate them.
msgerto 2 months ago 2
Lawlz. Just look at salmons corrupt ideas, he's saying stuff about facist people while he is trying to enforce his own code.
3terNalb3aT 2 months ago
Damn salmon tryin to act all hard spammin the comments about all you're silly ideas.
3terNalb3aT 2 months ago
room is dark like a soap opera
jasondesante 2 months ago
shjt camera
robjla1 2 months ago
uhh i think health classes should be taken,but taking the child away is a little harsh.
DrBandrew 2 months ago
Wouldnt the stress of being uprooted and placed into foster case cause the child to gain even more weight? :\
Even if it dosnt, the trauma that this would cause is astronomical. Not buying it, nope. not one bit.
hotstuff0410 2 months ago 16
WHERE IS THE PARTY HAT? IT IS A MYSTERY
rad3xl 2 months ago
So, does this kid count as two beds in foster care?
STABxYOUxRAWR 2 months ago
I dont feel child protective services were in the wrong removing the child from the home.maybe they could have enrolled him a camp or diet program at a facility where the parents could visit and take classes as well.im curious as to the weight of the parents.that would be a good indication of the childs eating habits.but 200 lbs as a 3rd grader is extreme.he had to have gotten to this weight somehow.why didnt the parents get help when the child got to 100 lbs??
deadkornbread 2 months ago
Educate the parents, don't take the kid away. Being taken away from your parents creates large amounts of stress which will only exacerbate their weight problem
FDASARO 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@salmonmcmannis so i guess parents have the right to abuse their kids huh? that makes sense? you did say ANY right... so fuck them let them all get fat and die, the government in some cases has the duty to get involved, but in this case family support is needed not taking their kid away but hey i am Canadian, we do not have that many fatties here, so when all the Americans are so fat they can not see their own feet the world will be a safer place...
phoboskitty 2 months ago
Interactive transcript really fails hard when Cenk talks haha
revmull 2 months ago
Excellent
TehHangover 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis
this is a youtube comments page. therefore, it is meant for commentary, opinions and critism from EVERYBODY. i can say WHATEVER i want, and YOU cant stop me! you dont know me, and you're juding me and a bunch of other people for their opinions. um are YOU the parent of this kid? That's what I thought, so you've got about as much right to judge on it as I do. In some cases, when you have a glandular problem or youre bigboned, obesity iss uncontrolloble. They didnt say that here
Nonizsportz12 2 months ago
@stefhenhaires
Technically,I may be underweight according to the BMI scale,but I'm not extremely bony or emaciated looking.
I was trying to say that I don't buy the excuse the Genes cause an 8 year old to weigh 200 pounds.
I think that it all comes down to portion control,exercise and simply watching what you eat.
I used to weigh almost 160,but lost 45 pounds within the last year or so.
It isn't easy,but I'd rather work my ass off to stay slim and healthy,than battle obesity.
Politicallyactive101 2 months ago
is it just me, or does Ana's nose look a bit different than before?
chochachili 2 months ago
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fat people are the worst.
alex93md 2 months ago
@no2religions Actually, the cheapest foods are loaded with crap like high fructose corn syrup, which is a major factor in obesity, so you don't know what you're talking about.
scottandrewhutchins 2 months ago
it's neglect. A child just doesn't get fat. It's probably unhealthy food the mother is buying and is feeding him.
scatcoitusmoosic 2 months ago
He's not fat, just big boned.
Kariakas 2 months ago
you guys need to do something about the echo in the new studio
murray1234567891011 2 months ago
@burneden i said big not obese and b)]]]]]]]]
"And fyi eating less can make you fatter, your telling your body less food is available therefore it ends up storing it" that would be near starvation. not healthy b) yes people are naturally big and skinny just like they are tall and short,.
Interactivesystems 2 months ago
As a vegetarian living in a house full of vegetarians, I can say our grocery bill for three people is 200 dollars. That's 800 dollars a month. That's a rent check, people. It's not fucking cheap.
kristinaoleta 2 months ago
But like seriously, how can the government decide that I'm not feeding my kid right when they just passed PIZZA as a vegetable?!?!?! LIke make up your dam minds.
Belo118 2 months ago
Yeah I know That..but it is ridiculous to say that eating PROPERLY in THIS country (usa) is cheap...cause is not. is not cheap at all. and YOU SHOULD know that..so why are you saying that it is? if you wanna eat healthy you gotta pay up fruit and vegetables are expensive.
Belo118 2 months ago
I'd rather they took kids out of physically abusive or sexually abusive homes than a home where they're getting too much too eat and too many video games for Christmas. The foster system is already flooded with children that really need to be there because their parents are evil or unqualified. Why is it we can take away this kid so easily...but kids being raped or beaten nearly to death we can't touch?
kristinaoleta 2 months ago
If your child is fat it is your fault and your responsibility. You should be punished for it. By leeting the kid become obese you are shortening their life and giving them medical problems, how is that not child abuse!?
joefish41 2 months ago
@joefish41 SOmetimes people are really just that dumb and they don't get it...i think it says something about the nutritional values of the average American family and how expensive healthy eating really is. they shouldn't take children away from their families maybe instead teach a family to be healthy. they are gonna go to a place that has no nutritional insight anyway is not like they are going to be put in a place that KNOWS nutrition.
Belo118 2 months ago
Either the is sick or lazy either way its a better option than putting the kid in foster care find a abused child that really needs your help.
missyouhoo 2 months ago 8
Kid needs to lose weight, or else he will not get any sweet juicy tight wet pussy.
CrisKG125 2 months ago
Ronald McDonald and Grimace as foster parents...
3ashiqOmak 2 months ago
Genetic disposition lol. Its called lack of exercise and motivation to be healthy. Also I DO think it's the parents fault. If they cant afford to feed their child properly, then don't have children. Its not fair to the child to live his life ridiculed and obese because his parents have poor parenting skills
Aom567 2 months ago
What excactly does Steve Oh do on the job? Does he plug in cables before the show? Can someone tell me?^^
ppxoon 2 months ago
More light, less echo! Otherwise, keep up the great job!
1955RodHot 2 months ago
This is not even legal; Medical conditions, such as obesity, require a proper medical evaluation.
C1aF1aGL5T3yzGrV 2 months ago
As a obese adult from child obesity, I wish I was taken away to be taught how to eat right and to become a average weight.
LoveVampire 2 months ago
XXEpicOwnageXx that's not true social Sevices in England do too.
11elaine58 2 months ago
Society (represented by the state) has an interest in how a child is treated for two reasons. 1) the child is a citizen and the state's job is to protect its citizens. 2) the child is an investment (school, healthcare etc) by the society for its future. The society wants (or should want) healthy citizens who can return the investment in tax revenue. If its shown that an obese child has a horrible diet at home there should be some meassures taken to rectify and foster care should be a last resort
omegavalerius 2 months ago
@omegavalerius Five long sentences in your post about about children and society and not a single mention about the parents of these children or their responsibility. That's sad.
MrSpencerport 2 months ago
Did Ana get a nose job?...
VampireKitten06 2 months ago
America, the only place that considers obese kids to be neglected
xXEpicOwnageXx 2 months ago 9
@xXEpicOwnageXx lol i know right
Standup42003 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
There's no such thing as genetic obesity. If you take in more calories than you use in a day, you gain weight. It's impossible to gain weight any other way. Some people may have more efficient metabolisms than others, but that's not an excuse for a parent letting their child become obese.
That being said, foster care is more a punishment for the parent than help for the child. The foster parents aren't any better equipped to help an (already) obese child than the original parents were.
DancingHorses26 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@DancingHorses26 The genetic markers for obesity have been identified. It's not impossible to gain weight in other ways, and your ignorance on the subject is no excuse, either.
Dipstikk 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@Dipstikk Liberals and Progressives started the school lunch program in the 1930's, next came the school breakfast and now in Memphis, TN their starting the school dinner program. Can the school midnight meal be far behind.
MrSpencerport 2 months ago
@MrSpencerport I don't know, can it? How does your post have anything to do with mine?
Dipstikk 2 months ago
@DancingHorses26 What about genetic thyroid inflammation???? Hm??? Or certain types of cancer that go unnoticed and cause rapid, unrelenting weight gain in children???? You're dumb.
kristinaoleta 2 months ago
For some reason this reminded of Food, Inc. (I think, can't remember exactly) where the family stats that they didn't know rating fast food three times a day was bad for them. Also, for people who can't afford fresh vegetables, I spent four dollars today on over a hundred seeds for six different plants which will grow just fine in the house.
53prime 2 months ago
This echo is rediculas. Better the previous set
paolofanderson 2 months ago
One days Cenks son will be taken away. But it wont be from being obese. It will be because his dad sexually touched.
Sperminator10000 2 months ago
less than 10 percent of fat people hav a genetic problem, so that means 90 percent r just plain lazy, but dont blame the parents blame the fast food chains that spend millions of dollars every year marketing to children... high colesteral causes heart takes claiming almost as many lives as smoking,
shackels100 2 months ago
what about a free 1 year gym membership (or something like that) and a promise if so and so many kilograms are lost by the end of the 1 year period, you get some award (like trip to disneyland or something)? every 3rd grader would try so hard to win the award.
aandreya 2 months ago
Goooood Gooood!!!!! Would it hurt to teach that kid some better eating habits and feed him Pizza.
Lilbitevil 2 months ago
A five year old does not have to be fat to be healthy, but no, the school had a talk with my parents because i was somehow too skinny. Sometimes it can be the parents fault as to why their child may be obese. I remember, as a kid growing up, my mother would make sure i would eat everything off the plate, even if i was full. I threw up twice because of that. I learned some really bad eating habits after some time. I'm 19, over weight, and struggling to reach average weight.
d0ck47 2 months ago 2
@d0ck47 Wow your parents SUCK! I'm sure they meant well, but that sucks really bad.
TheCreeperhunter 2 months ago
@d0ck47 Been there. I remember throwing up peas once.
kristinaoleta 2 months ago
@salmonmcmannis That's a deliberate mechanic to prevent two morons from hogging the top comments. Pretty sure I already told you that -_-
TheCreeperhunter 2 months ago
i can't focus because all i can hear is "diet and exercise" in my brain
MrIonization 2 months ago 2
Answer to weight loss............eat less, move more.
kgonepostl 2 months ago
I think they should do a LOT of research before making a decision like this. I mean, that kid was 200 lb (more than me and I'm 20 years old! 21 in 2 months. lol). At the same time, you don't want to take the kid away and then find out it was genetics all along. Then again, I don't know if a government willing to feed kids pizza under the guise of it being a vegetable so they can save an extra buck should be taking away kids for being too fat...
DaisyExodus 2 months ago 5
wow so i guess where Cenk is from 200 lb children are the norm
201stars 2 months ago
If you are an 8 year old boy with bitch tits, then it is your parents' responsibility to buy you a nice bra. Chesticle stretch marks are no joke.
nnamdi247 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@salmonmcmannis
wow, i cant help but laugh at you're comment reply to me. you're nothing but a hypocrite. you just said that i shouldn't judge the parents since i dont know them, well guess what? YOU DONT KNOW ME! mabye i could of had a loved one who died of heart problems from obesity, you dont know. and here you are judging me for what you're doing now. and you know what, YOU"RE NOT THE KID'S parent either, so you have no right to judge what anybody else says!
Nonizsportz12 2 months ago
And by more vegetables, do they mean more pizza?
bobthepinkmonkey 2 months ago 45
@bobthepinkmonkey
Wasn't there a story a few months back about some vegan parents who were also charged with neglect because they refused to give their child meat? You can't win!!
gdogg2000 2 months ago
@bobthepinkmonkey HHAAhaaa! The even sadder part about that whole crap is that they obviously don't even know that a tomato is a fruit!
RandyMcDumpy 2 months ago
For fuck's sake people.... there's more than one reason why a person can be obese.
It's stereotypical to say it from food because you would have to explain the people than can eat as much as an obese person and not become obese themselves.
Politician take money away from education to dumb kids down so they won't learn simple shit like this. I can't believe CPS took away the kid just because he's obese. What facts did they have?! Did they contact the child's doctor?!!!!!!
TheTruthNJ09 2 months ago 2
@TheTruthNJ09 *rousing applause* EXACTLY.
Dipstikk 2 months ago
Neglect would result in the kid being skinny.
mangaas 2 months ago
They've probably traumatized this kid and done more damage to the kid than their parents.
gir908922 2 months ago
Concentrate on the kids who don't get fed cos all the parents money goes on drugs and booze
11elaine58 2 months ago
anarchy doesnt require people to be raped or murderd. If everyone did their own thing and we worked helping one another this whole earth would be fed
SpecterWSA 2 months ago
Explain genetic predisposition. I think they just said that because child protective services also failed. I hate fat people that blame being fat on everything but eating terribly and not moving!
TRauck1506 2 months ago 24
@TRauck1506 Oh yeah? Well, I hate people who immediately conclude that everyone must be lying, just because the idea that a fat person ISN'T guilty, and therefor cannot be justifiably punished, doesn't add up to them. If you have to make up an alternate scenario based on no evidence just to live in your own narrow-assed (dual pun!) bigoted world, then you're just grasping at straws, needle-digits.
Quit making excuses for your illogical bigotry, excuse-maker.
Dipstikk 2 months ago