I made troll with improved call reinforcer ments improved beserker rage poison attack improved wizard blast blink mighty fireball might ball lightning world of power
would anyone mind helping me. i tried this glitch with an elf to get gondor capt powers. i set the first two skills to nothing so i can get toggle weapon and self heal elf abilities. the three i got after are mount, starlight and blade master. then i go back to edit the elf to override the first two blanks with toggle weapon and self heal. the thing is, only toggle, self heal and blade master show up. when i get self heal, it doesnt' heal me which is wierd. anything i'm doing wrong?
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this is nub glitching- there are 3 ways: nub glitching: this
experienced glitching : editing the ini to allow u to get powers at ANY lvl pro glitching: same as experienced but then u can add powers from alot of factions in one hero, and some of m can do 6 powered
just search for tutorials, they are hard, but it's worthed it ;)
dude i do this and yea it shows the powers of another army but it deosnt show the powers of the actual hero im doing it on and im getting self heal onto my hero of the west but plz help
I think people who use this online are pathetic as it's not standardised so it's unfair.
If it's agreed beforehand then w/e, but if the opponent doesn't know then tbh it makes you a fag and it's kinda sad how you have to cheat to have a tiny bit of success in your life.
thanks man, ive used it and it helps alot,, especially online lmao
anyway, do you know how to get 2 of the same powers on one custom hero? ive seen another custom glitched hero who has whirlwind (lvl 3 upgrade) and improved whirlwind (level 7 upgrade), he can use 2 whirlwinds at the same time,one is improved and the other is normal, both whirlwinds take up one power slot each. Do you have any idea how to do this?
in order to do that you need 2 make to characters of the same class, but i advise you not to do this because it glitches sometimes and you can't use the move at all.
kk thanks, it works, is it possible to have a 6th power for a single custom hero? i've seen the stance (agressive, defensive, standard) icon replaced by a power, do you have any idea how to do this?
like this: if u want to have, example horse think from Men on Elves, and also Dwarf jump. then leave 9 empty slots in powers, then add horse power, then same thing as dwarf but on 8th power slot, then customize again normaly to add some elves powers, but only 3, or it wont fit xD
You make a hero of your fav race and not give him powers and then you make a hero with your fav powers but not give him powers. Then on the hero with your fav powers you click the edit powers button at the same time as you press up/ down arrow key on your keybord (up if the hero of your fav race is just above the fav powers one down if its just below)and it should appear with your fav race being able to have your fav powers. :)
lol i wont better looking armour for the captain i wont to mod the hero's armour but i have to think about what i have to do first like i wont to give the captain a arnor helm you know the helm on the first movie in the beginning when they kill samorn that helm, it looks kick ass XD
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW DOES THAT ELVE HEALTH POWER WORKS??? I undestand that there is a way to make it no rechargable... does anyone know and explain me how to do that?? PLZ PLZ PLZ! (^^)
Well thts al vry well and good, pretty cool glitch...But what about his stats? Strength? Vision? Health? It didnt look like u could up those any. So it's prety cool to have a gondor wizard, but without the strength and health to back him up then it's pretty pointless. Pretty nifty glitch though, guess id be freaked if I saw a gondor launch a fireball at me.
ignore the idiots who comment just plain crap!!! seriously peoples, this is the first good place i could find that offered decent guidelines on how to do the tricky glitch!!! and fatrix learn some english dude eh?!?!?! and ogrtadunya u have issues wtf?!?!?!
i dnt hav a glitched hero my self and tbh glitched heros r like all custom heros... just with powers of captin of gondor or somthing when there a orc..
you guys are right man. You will never change so it helps not to get in touch with you losers. Go on cheating, cheat as much as you can, and if you have any satisfaction after winning that game, I do not know who is the idiot
AN YOU SAY IT IS NO CHEAT BUT AGAINST THE RULES!!! ONLINE IT IS CHEAT ASSHOLE, IT IS KNOWN AS CHEAT BETWEEN GOOD PLAYERS, NOT LOSERS LIKE YOU. GO and read the game guide and LEARN THE GAME OK< JUST SHUT THE FUCK UPPP
because of assholes like you there is no fun on BFME2 online games. what is the fun of having a glitch hero asshole? what fun do you have and is it fair? how can feel like as if you win a game like that?
you got yours working noob? good luck asshole, I am the cheater beater, i fuck all the cheaters however they disconnect then, you guys have no honor and no self respect, you guys are the shame of BFME2. how does it feel to hear such REALITIES guys?????
what a shameless ass hole are you man? and you are telling me that I am idiot? What do you expect us to say? Just accept the Glitch heroes like that? Is that what you expected IDIOT??? OF COURSE IT IS CHEAT. YOU BASTARD WITH NO SHAME!! JUST SHUT THE FUCK UPPP
YEAH YEAH YEAH, as if we have never known the double faced lier cheaters, you guys are born without any honor and I repeat NO SELF RESPECT. YOU GUYS LACK OF PERSONAL RESPECT...... good luck GANG OF CHEATING LOSERS, DISCONNECTERS and SHAMES of BFME online
Actually you can. It's just the 6th power has to be passive to be in effect. Make a passive skill in one of the first five slots, then replace it with a usable skill. Like, I put archer specialization, then replaced it with a rain of arrows. It was the 3rd level, so each arrow back a similar effect to silverthorns, just not blue.
Its basic what ur doing there :P nice vid though. My hero has 20 points to all stats and can have like any spell on lvl 1. I prefer WoP becouse of the impact it has on both human players and there forces :D. And before i forget it, i can overwrite the stance powers whit an 6th power, which is very usefull. Good day =).
I made troll with improved call reinforcer ments improved beserker rage poison attack improved wizard blast blink mighty fireball might ball lightning world of power
stanbobjones 1 week ago
I didn't know to fuckijng doijng this, any help please ?//
rabo3halabi 6 months ago
would anyone mind helping me. i tried this glitch with an elf to get gondor capt powers. i set the first two skills to nothing so i can get toggle weapon and self heal elf abilities. the three i got after are mount, starlight and blade master. then i go back to edit the elf to override the first two blanks with toggle weapon and self heal. the thing is, only toggle, self heal and blade master show up. when i get self heal, it doesnt' heal me which is wierd. anything i'm doing wrong?
scrtwpnx 9 months ago
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radagastthe3rd 1 year ago
this is nub glitching- there are 3 ways:
nub glitching: this.
experienced glitching : editing the ini to allow u to get powers at ANY lvl (like word of power on lvl 1).
pro glitching: same as experienced but then u can add powers from alot of factions in one hero, and some of m can do 6 powered.
just search for tutorials, they are hard, but it's worthed it ;)
bye :P
nils610 1 year ago
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this is nub glitching- there are 3 ways: nub glitching: this
experienced glitching : editing the ini to allow u to get powers at ANY lvl pro glitching: same as experienced but then u can add powers from alot of factions in one hero, and some of m can do 6 powered
just search for tutorials, they are hard, but it's worthed it ;)
bye :P
nils610 1 year ago
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nils610 1 year ago
does it work with expansion pack??
TheAnton97 1 year ago
@TheAnton97 yes it does. Check out my channel for pro commentaries.
radagastthe3rd 1 year ago
tnx
tomotomo91 1 year ago
i dont think this works anymore i aint sure it wont work with me :/
Shadyguy11 1 year ago
@Shadyguy11 works with me its fine.
dragonofchao3 10 months ago
dude i do this and yea it shows the powers of another army but it deosnt show the powers of the actual hero im doing it on and im getting self heal onto my hero of the west but plz help
Artak77 1 year ago
Thanks :D
name of the song?? ;p
Ziomek5243 1 year ago
thank you so much... I use this just for fun ! try to mount a troll =))
Stevie02302408 1 year ago
yes it is possible to glitch a hero to have 6 powers...
timotej121 1 year ago
can i do this with the 360 version?
TheAZTF 1 year ago
i made it thanks
parazit43v3r 1 year ago
What is this Song i have heard it in man Videos
Rammsteinfreakman 1 year ago
@Rammsteinfreakman It's The Martrix theme I think.
archertrio 1 year ago
lol so if you do a troll hero and have man powers what if you have the mount power dose the troll ride the horse lol just imagin that lol.
Fallout3fananza 1 year ago
cant you win without cheats ???!!!!!
wimpy1555 2 years ago
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Glitches destroy this very fantastic game.
Play with the heroes given to this game originally and stop this damn cheating.
Cerrajuh 2 years ago
god..i was pro at this once i got sick heroes...but i cant remember how to do more than 1 glitch thingy
Zaidr0n 2 years ago
is this for all versions?
funkyopa2 2 years ago
Can you get from more then 1 hero classe. Like tornado of elves earthquaqe from dwarves lightningbolt of wizzard etc?
ICortyeI 2 years ago
Wohoo i understood it with my bad english,
THANKS ! =)
JaguarKinG95 2 years ago
The song is called; Clubbed to Death. enjoy ;)
sindreh93 2 years ago
whats the song?
cheers for vid
daleeasson 2 years ago
When doing this is it that you cant change your stats?
CyborgMolitov 2 years ago
Thank you so much!
Emollzor101 2 years ago
when i change his stats or armrour after i glitched the hero they return to zero
help
umeshalaka 2 years ago
nvm i got it
umeshalaka 2 years ago
how?
metallica2426 2 years ago
great glitch
Pallle11 2 years ago
Thank you very much for this glitch :)
MrHaluza 2 years ago
how do you change the heroes skill and rank, like improved tornado at rank 1 etc?
mace236 2 years ago
on 1min, my wizad gets shity captain of gondor skills and the captains keeps the same skills. but I am doing it right
gawain259 2 years ago
how do you gte ap on a glitched hero?~1
dylanrocks100 2 years ago
lol i dont understand
ellecool5 2 years ago
what happen if you put toggle weapon or horse on characters that can't (like an orc)?
Kyogre9600 2 years ago
I think people who use this online are pathetic as it's not standardised so it's unfair.
If it's agreed beforehand then w/e, but if the opponent doesn't know then tbh it makes you a fag and it's kinda sad how you have to cheat to have a tiny bit of success in your life.
kainye6 2 years ago 2
Well depends which way u see it, coz sum people just use it to vs sauron's army, which is when u work with ppl against comp, so its not that bad.
MyCool18 2 years ago
Yea but if you only use it for 1 team things like custom heroes vs waves or tower wars then its fine
JustMeMyselfAndYou 2 years ago
whats the SONG???
HappyHourKoolAid 2 years ago
the song's "Clubbed to Death" by Rob Dougan
Ybdo 2 years ago
However it still limits you to 1 charatues move poll. Tho it does mean that you can have an Uruk-hai with Arrow Rain Tornado.
jaws900 2 years ago
No you can have an Uruk withTornado, Word of Power etc. just think twice
DemsterX 2 years ago
thats my MAN!! making the world.. a naughtier place hahahaha
cherryblossem66 2 years ago
thx
7kantor 2 years ago
thanks man, ive used it and it helps alot,, especially online lmao
anyway, do you know how to get 2 of the same powers on one custom hero? ive seen another custom glitched hero who has whirlwind (lvl 3 upgrade) and improved whirlwind (level 7 upgrade), he can use 2 whirlwinds at the same time,one is improved and the other is normal, both whirlwinds take up one power slot each. Do you have any idea how to do this?
please reply anyone, thanks.
westcoastnigga23 2 years ago
in order to do that you need 2 make to characters of the same class, but i advise you not to do this because it glitches sometimes and you can't use the move at all.
so lets say you want 2 fireballs:
you have to make, Your Hero, Mage1, Mage2.
do the switch with first mage1 to get lvl 3 FB.
do switch again with mage2 to get lvl 7 FB.
(Doesn't have to be Lvl3 / Lvl7.)
LoneJackel 2 years ago
kk thanks, it works, is it possible to have a 6th power for a single custom hero? i've seen the stance (agressive, defensive, standard) icon replaced by a power, do you have any idea how to do this?
westcoastnigga23 2 years ago
sorry i've never seen that it MAY be a hack tho im not entirely sure.
LoneJackel 2 years ago
@westcoastnigga23 i know how to do it
Elbombisima 1 year ago
@LoneJackel
lol that would make game crash, just try hack so tornado Level 1,2 and 3 is a non-upgradalbe power. :)
JokucFromBFME 1 year ago
what is the name of the song?
renekuh93 2 years ago
thx man u helped a lot!!!
andreasIvanschitzxd 2 years ago
good job at explaining the process!! thanks!!
achil19 2 years ago
it does work it is good. but i want it like i have an elf with wizard and dwarf powers. but it is good!
hrhas5 2 years ago
music call: club to death if someone wans it of rob D matrix theme if you like my comment please retry it
misapple24 3 years ago
thanks man it really works
godchild619 3 years ago
can you change his apperence after all that
godchild619 3 years ago
How did you find that out.
FoodGobbler29 3 years ago
sweet thanks
eyeofanewt 3 years ago
dude can i put powers on the hero i created first? or not?
kenethregala 3 years ago
yes but it better to just glich w the same class instead
dragonman979 3 years ago
lolz this video is mint!! now i can finally glitch my heros.....hehe but 1 more question lol whats this bckground music called??
stannypk5k9 3 years ago
Moby: Matrix Reloaded Theme
girielconqs 3 years ago
thanks!
The6KidsProductions 3 years ago
but how do i get mutiple skills on 1 hero? ive seen people have skills of elf and wizard. how do i do that?
kelep1992 3 years ago
like this: if u want to have, example horse think from Men on Elves, and also Dwarf jump. then leave 9 empty slots in powers, then add horse power, then same thing as dwarf but on 8th power slot, then customize again normaly to add some elves powers, but only 3, or it wont fit xD
acoshadyx 3 years ago
thing
acoshadyx 3 years ago
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oh fuck i can't understand a shit of this, can't YOU SHOW HOW TO DO THAT ARROW SHIT OR WHATEVER COS I DIDN*T UNDERSTAND A SHIT!
luukje888 3 years ago
You make a hero of your fav race and not give him powers and then you make a hero with your fav powers but not give him powers. Then on the hero with your fav powers you click the edit powers button at the same time as you press up/ down arrow key on your keybord (up if the hero of your fav race is just above the fav powers one down if its just below)and it should appear with your fav race being able to have your fav powers. :)
Booooooooooooooom666 3 years ago
song name: orange city
Chubbsta007 3 years ago
what did happen when i play whit it in online games??
plHasselpl 3 years ago
u dont need the other program, i did it with out
-.-
VistasHiddenTricks 3 years ago
but it is the oppisid choose the person u want
jjaragornfan 3 years ago
this does work for rotwk i just tryed it ty m8
jjaragornfan 3 years ago
clubbed to death is the song name
nickthegreat712 3 years ago
song name plz?
lihgtingbolt 3 years ago
clubbed to death - rob D
kelep1992 3 years ago
okay people if yur gona watch this waste of time
i know how to make glitched hero and thats not it m8 im sry but you really suck
dale10397 3 years ago
lol that guys sucked
Incpect 3 years ago
TY NIGA
Kino483 3 years ago
he su cks man, really su ck
wuppie999 3 years ago
i did this and... when i went to use him, he had only random powers from a different race.
sclyfes1212 3 years ago
same
lol
itsmegamertv 3 years ago
is that lord of the ring battle for middle earth2 ?
nightwalk15 3 years ago
yes
Ocelot93 3 years ago
xbox360
nightwalk15 3 years ago
no.
BsSbsBs 3 years ago
Shouldnt*
parapluuutje 3 years ago
Why you should give the hero any powers?
parapluuutje 3 years ago
lol i wont better looking armour for the captain i wont to mod the hero's armour but i have to think about what i have to do first like i wont to give the captain a arnor helm you know the helm on the first movie in the beginning when they kill samorn that helm, it looks kick ass XD
jackback767 3 years ago
cool
89gambit 3 years ago
danm doesnt work with me
yannickonl 3 years ago
Press it or its hotkey L then move and it will not recharge. Thats it
Stonebludgeon 3 years ago
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW DOES THAT ELVE HEALTH POWER WORKS??? I undestand that there is a way to make it no rechargable... does anyone know and explain me how to do that?? PLZ PLZ PLZ! (^^)
Esjar207 3 years ago
koolio
NoahDude0020 3 years ago
Wanna now how to glitch really good? mail me to esjar_207 hotmail
Esjar207 3 years ago
i wanna now how to glitch really good
DemsterX 3 years ago 2
how u get 50 stat points?
gielomir 3 years ago
wtf. everyone says it is a cheat. its not a cheat its a GLITCH NOOBS !!! i agree its no fair way of playing but it is fun to make 1 if youre bored
arrowix 3 years ago
lol it dont work for me my troll still have troll powers not elf why?
PW43R 3 years ago
Well thts al vry well and good, pretty cool glitch...But what about his stats? Strength? Vision? Health? It didnt look like u could up those any. So it's prety cool to have a gondor wizard, but without the strength and health to back him up then it's pretty pointless. Pretty nifty glitch though, guess id be freaked if I saw a gondor launch a fireball at me.
ViktorValentine 3 years ago
ignore the idiots who comment just plain crap!!! seriously peoples, this is the first good place i could find that offered decent guidelines on how to do the tricky glitch!!! and fatrix learn some english dude eh?!?!?! and ogrtadunya u have issues wtf?!?!?!
gasgun91 3 years ago
i dnt hav a glitched hero my self and tbh glitched heros r like all custom heros... just with powers of captin of gondor or somthing when there a orc..
fatrix13 3 years ago
with uve got a problem with glitched heros of battle of middleearth why the hell did u serch it in youtube
fatrix13 3 years ago
you guys are right man. You will never change so it helps not to get in touch with you losers. Go on cheating, cheat as much as you can, and if you have any satisfaction after winning that game, I do not know who is the idiot
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
just cause of curiosity nothing else, I have no glitch hero on my comp
by the way definition of glitch on babylon pro7
glitch
n. defect, malfunction
so go on malfunctioning :)
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
AN YOU SAY IT IS NO CHEAT BUT AGAINST THE RULES!!! ONLINE IT IS CHEAT ASSHOLE, IT IS KNOWN AS CHEAT BETWEEN GOOD PLAYERS, NOT LOSERS LIKE YOU. GO and read the game guide and LEARN THE GAME OK< JUST SHUT THE FUCK UPPP
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
really just shut the hell up and read my comments..this is my last one im not goin into a youtube/comment discussion with you
Thiery2864 3 years ago 3
gang of noob losers :)
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
because of assholes like you there is no fun on BFME2 online games. what is the fun of having a glitch hero asshole? what fun do you have and is it fair? how can feel like as if you win a game like that?
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
what is the advantage of glitching? you have other skilles but does that care? you can choose that hero rigth away and you have extra power
riking0 3 years ago
Can u beat my glitched hero??
try to do this!!
M3GA
mjamjamja1 3 years ago
this is stupid get off youtube
LinearEdge 3 years ago
I got mine working :) Thanks man
mace236 3 years ago
you got yours working noob? good luck asshole, I am the cheater beater, i fuck all the cheaters however they disconnect then, you guys have no honor and no self respect, you guys are the shame of BFME2. how does it feel to hear such REALITIES guys?????
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
just for information..this isn't an cheat..and it isn't an hack
Thiery2864 3 years ago
then WHAT is it?????? ARE YOU IDIOTS OR YOU GUYS THINK THAT WE ARE IDIOTS????
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
goin on at your reaction i think your an idiot.. its an glitch and an glitch isn't a cheat or an hack, but its "against the rules"
in alot of games "mostly online" but that doesn't make it an hack or cheat especially this one doesn't since its not really usefull
Thiery2864 3 years ago
what a shameless ass hole are you man? and you are telling me that I am idiot? What do you expect us to say? Just accept the Glitch heroes like that? Is that what you expected IDIOT??? OF COURSE IT IS CHEAT. YOU BASTARD WITH NO SHAME!! JUST SHUT THE FUCK UPPP
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
lols shudnt be glitching online soo noobishh.. i hate it wen ppl do it ..
aznnPrince 3 years ago
totaly agree i doesnt show any skill
hellobooom 3 years ago
is it possible to use this hero online? or get banned?
SacredAngels 3 years ago
you can use it its fine
BBoyTuna7 3 years ago
halo music :O yipeee my fav game ;)
OmgNinjaOmg 3 years ago
why in my game bfme2 at xbox360 i cant do my hero!!
can some1 help me!
slipknot388 3 years ago
u cant make a hero on the 360 sadly
i with ya i have 360 2
umeshalaka 3 years ago
here's your help idiot; LEARN the gameeeeeee and play FAIRRRR like a real MANNNNNNN not an idiot ORC :):)
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
and i do play fair i didn't used this..
i tried it out in "SKIRMISH" but i thought it sucked, and i dont even like to play BFME2 online.. id rather play first person shooters
Thiery2864 3 years ago
YEAH YEAH YEAH, as if we have never known the double faced lier cheaters, you guys are born without any honor and I repeat NO SELF RESPECT. YOU GUYS LACK OF PERSONAL RESPECT...... good luck GANG OF CHEATING LOSERS, DISCONNECTERS and SHAMES of BFME online
OgrtaDunya 3 years ago
what ever works for you...
Thiery2864 3 years ago
cool lol
nemesis214299 3 years ago
hi how i can make glitch with 6 powers?
1anton12 4 years ago
you can't
rriinnnniirr 4 years ago
Actually you can. It's just the 6th power has to be passive to be in effect. Make a passive skill in one of the first five slots, then replace it with a usable skill. Like, I put archer specialization, then replaced it with a rain of arrows. It was the 3rd level, so each arrow back a similar effect to silverthorns, just not blue.
ArchXDemon 3 years ago
can you give your glitch hero(a troll), also his own powers with other powers like a wizard???
boendertjuh 4 years ago
yes
rriinnnniirr 4 years ago
lol you don't have to download any suxxor program, just do it like the video:)))
and it works:)
simbisombosumidian 4 years ago
yo will need a program called "FinalBig" if you want to get the 70 stat points (i downloaded it from file planet)
LoneJackel 4 years ago
yerr i was watching the other vid and saw 70 stat points and was like huh??
rriinnnniirr 4 years ago
i got finalbig and edited it so i have 70 but when i try to save it it says i cant cause the thing is like not allowed to change stuff
rriinnnniirr 4 years ago
Its basic what ur doing there :P nice vid though. My hero has 20 points to all stats and can have like any spell on lvl 1. I prefer WoP becouse of the impact it has on both human players and there forces :D. And before i forget it, i can overwrite the stance powers whit an 6th power, which is very usefull. Good day =).
Stonebludgeon 4 years ago
u can mix to !!!
DemsterX 4 years ago
iwonder i there is a glitch like this but with armor and shit like that? i put a dwarf on mount =)
xxDarkElvexx 4 years ago
i think i played a game with your hero in it
panakamanama 4 years ago
so how do u mix 2 powers E.G earthquake and fireball together?
blake9810 4 years ago
I have to try this !!!!!!
Tolkiennerd 4 years ago
y never have to recharge
spgeaney 4 years ago
just because it resets the cooldown so. . .
LoneJackel 4 years ago
whast the theme music called?!
MrZekic 4 years ago
Clubed to death
rakatikie 4 years ago
u dont the special that is last will over write the previous specials slot
weslo1finalfantasy1 4 years ago
awsome idea
redvsbluedude01 4 years ago
Lol I put mount on a troll
NickT122122 4 years ago
lol thts so easy doin tht i found it out but i dont tryed
Lendolas 4 years ago
nice one thats a diffrent way than i showed
kongdancer 4 years ago
nice job dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
panos113 4 years ago
if done right time heal move will never have to recharge
LoneJackel 4 years ago
Opps.. hit spam instead of reply.. but thanks LoneJackel
burl3yb0y 4 years ago
can you take a spell of the evil wit the good mixed
YES/NO
alialien13 4 years ago
yes
LoneJackel 4 years ago
Hey i just made a new video showing how to make a hero with skills from more then one race so it should be viewable in a few hours :)
LoneJackel 4 years ago
Song name?
burl3yb0y 4 years ago
Rob Dougan - Clubbed to death
LoneJackel 4 years ago
is tis the xbox version!
66606660 4 years ago
No.
burl3yb0y 4 years ago
sweet glitch man :) i heard about this on the forum
warnexus 4 years ago