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  • If God said & insisted on male & female union which is based on (& natural for many) complementarity & mutual attraction why is there such a spectrum of masculinity & femininity in creation with those in the middle areas not fitting that model. If God didn't want Gays don't create , as an extreme example , Julian Clarys.

    Male feotuses can be feminised - brain development or appearance etc - in the womb by female hormone exposure resulting in a boy/ man - still with a penis being - "different

  • Jesus never spoke out against pedophilia, so I guess pedophilia is not a sin.. Really stupid logic.. Using the woman preaching argument, God used woman in other parts of the bible with authority, but He never ever used someone who is homosexual. Never.. And lets define what homosexuality is.. Homosexuality is not a person loving their same sex. It is a commandment that we love the same sex. Homosexuality, according to the bible is having sexual relations with the same sex. That is condemned..

  • @MissedTheMark excellent and sound points! You hit the mark with that

  • Only the the Pastor with the glasses is speaking the true word of God. The others are corrupt and are leading many souls astray.

  • I like the first guy ,his cool and speak truth!

  • this lady does not know what she is talking about. God said male and female. Not women and women. Not man and Man. God destory the city of Solomon and Gomorrah because of this. In fact God hates all sin you can not be a jelly back preacher. Because if you don't tell people the truth then God will hold you accountable.

  • The bald guy without the glasses and the demon chick are lost ....

  • the woman and the bald man are absolutely lost and need to repent!! bottom line no reason to argue with these people . tell them in love the truth and if they dont wANT to hear it move on!

  • homosexuality is a spirit, it is not a spirit of God. The people who are trapped by the spirit need to be released from it. But because of the churches error and lack of spiritual power, they never defeat the spirit that is trying to destroy them.

    I don't know what will happen, but that kind of spirit will never enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  • The people who hear the voice of God are His sheep. Jesus didn't die so that we can be what we want to be and do what we want to do. If you can be gay and still make it then so can a murderer. I mean murdering people looks wrong too but hey I was born this way. I mean God loves me no matter what right, as long as I believe in Jesus I'm good. This is exactly what homosexuals are saying, that their sin is ok with God, a HOLY, RIGHTEOUS God. He who hears my voice are my sheep. I understand that now

  • According to TD Jakes, lets pray.

  • The faggots can have Christianity.

  • Wow based on these reactions...church people seem to be pretty hateful. Stop wasting so much time on hate and spend more time cultivating love for your fellow man.

  • The problem is religion . Let the people be what they what to be.

  • Man what a shame! All scripture is good. So is the Bible no longer reliable? It would have to be unreliable if we are to believe the the woman and man to the right. There is no argument The Bible is God's word and it ought to help guide our behavior and not vice versa. The one brother is using Bible to establish his position and aligning his life with the Bible. The other 2 are busy trying to tear the Bible down. Whoa unto them.

  • Paul was given authority by Jesus which comes from the Father. When Paul speaks and writes the letters he writes God's words

  • It is written in Leviticus 18:22 in plain black and white "Don't have sex with a man as one does with a woman. That is abhorrent"

    what other interpretation can there be. in response to 1:17

  • Dennis Meredith and this other woman are False Prophets, and unless both of them repent of their sinful nature and and repent of their lies, they will both die and go straight to hell. Hopefully they repent.

  • Uh ohhh false prophets. No scripture just feelings.

  • you got a gay woman preacher trying to defend gays WOW and a guy on her side who clearly does not know scripture.

  • he sounds stupid saying JESUS don't care about homosexuality JESUS himself only walk the earth in the 4 gospels so that mean he don't follow the rest of the bible

  • Im saying it! If you die a sinner you are going to the lake of fire! If you die a thief you go the lake! the same is with homosexuality if you die Gay you go to the lake!

  • @thecovenantkeeper I know you are trying to tell the truth, but let us look at christ example, when a woman caught in adultery was brought to him, what did he say and do? How did he react to the tax collector? With Grace and love, didn't he have more right htan anyone to tell them were they were going if they didn't change? He would have been right but his sacriface is more right. Speak with the love Christ spoke with please, it does not make you any less truthful.

  • Rev dennis meredith is an out right liar! jesus as well did not support a Gay lifestyle! Come on!

    Give me a break!

  • these three blacks question Gods word. and thats what Satan did. he told adam, "did God really tell you that". referring to; not to eat the apple on the tree. so these three lost people who satan is working through to push his agenda. Homosexuality destroys communities, it destroys homes, and most of all it destroys manhood. the order or place God put males in. Real men dont sleep with other men.

  • Homosexuals for centuries of all colors and races -black ,white ,yellow, brown, polk dot, ect have tried to justify their lifestyle. But it still doesnt change what God says.

  • " surely you know that the wicked will not possess Gods Kingdom. Do not fool your selves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulters or homosexual perverts or who steal or are greedy or are drunkards or who slander others or are thieves- none of these will possess Gods Kingdom." 1 COR chp6 verse 9-10

  • Homosexuals, homosexual pastors and even homosexuals who call themselves christians do not want to belive that a loving God will send their souls to an EVERLASTING BURNING HELL , oh but HE WILL. Let me read for you 1 corinthians chapter 6 verse 9- 10

  • Everything Paul said, it came from GOD and isnt Jesus God?. God in the flesh who came down as the son and died a humilating brutal death on the cross for the sins of mankind. Paul was inspired by God and was Gods servant. Paul spoke out against homosexuality because he believed thats what God wanted him to do. If you are a christian you have to believe in the whole bible not just the parts that suit your liking.

  • It says in 2 Timothy chapter 3 verse 16-17and i quote "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. "It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right". "God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work." so it doesnt matter if you think Jesus didnt say anything about homosexuality.

  • Black folks are like evrybody else. there is ignorance in the black community and sin. And black folks aint gonna be able to blame slavery for their misguidence. Gods written word is the Bible and everything in the Bible is true. whether it comes from apostle paul who GOD used to speake his word through or Jesus christ the living word of God . God used many people in history to get his agenda or message across.

  • BECAUSE JESUS DIDNT WRITE THE BIBLE

  • these two will lead you straight to Hell on a jet plane, have a nice trip!

  • An alcoholic in recovery will always be a an alcoholic. On that same token I believe a gay person who supposedly goes straight will always be gay.

  • @47matazza no an acholic is only an alcoholic when he acts upon it. along those lines a homosexual is only one when he acts upon it. wif you profess to being an acholoc or homosexual eventually you'll act upon it. so it is more about the action then anything else

  • It's obvious that the smug pro homo pastor at the end is just mad because his pro homo agenda has hurt him financially. I'm glad that there are still real Christians out there that aren't going for this political correct garbage! We shouldn't disregard the word of the lord just because some people want to continue to live in sin. This kind of liberal crap opens up the door for anarchy! What if a bunch of swingers said adultery is fine because of this or that would that be true? NO!

  • THIS IS BULL CRAP! That lesbian is such a hypocrite and the pro homo guy is too they are talking about being selective with the word of God but they themselves are doing it. Then that smug jerk at the end (not the white one and not the ex homo one) has the nerve to talk about hypocrisy by taking donations well you are a hypocrite because you are disregarding some bible verses because you have a pro homosexual agenda! Shame on those walking abominations they're wolves in sheep's clothing!

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  • Homosexuality falls under the spirit of perversion and its direct hatred to God, people that argues against this WOE! TO U. There will be a rude awakening in the great day of judgement . The Bible is right

  • The first pastor is right,Jesus delivered me from homosexuality i was a lesbian and now im happy and in love with a man :) JESUS CAN DELIVER ANYONE FROM ANYTHING He was God in the FLESH !! I LOVE YOU JESUS

  • America is on it's way down spiritually, etc. God loves His creation - male, female. etc. But sin is SIN. Marriage between a man & woman have been the norm in all cultures in the past. Now, all of a sudden, being GAY is normal. How? The ancient Greek man had little boys, some ancient cultures allowed sex with animals. Now in some states having sex with animals isn't considered a major crime. What next? Saying it's normal to marry or mate an animal? Bestiality, pediphilia, and gax sex is sin.

  • "Pobia" means fear. The pastor on the left doesn't fear homosexuals.He was one. The femaie reverend said the scripture about Sodom was NOT ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY. It was about NOT BEING HOSPITABLE. How were the men in Genesis 19 of Sodom not hospitable - because they didn't want Lot's daughters? These men wanted to rape the visitors (who were angels) and refused Lot's daughters. Paul understood the Law. God loves his creation -He doesn't love sin and gay sex is contrary to God's law in Leviticus.

  • Jesus also addresses human sexuality with the woman caught in the act of adultery. He told her, "go and sin no more." In addition to that, those leading God's people should better understand His Word. Anyone who does not understand the significance of Sodom and Gomorrah should not be teaching or preaching the Word.

  • @clubindiana4 I'm am grieved at your defense of this ungodly lifestyle. check out Jude v. 7 Jude 1:7 (New Living Translation)

    7 And don’t forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God’s judgment.

    This verse found in Jude, talks about sexual perversion (strange flesh in the KJV), not inhospitality.

  • Sodom and Gomorrah was all about homosexuality...I'm tired of that lie that it was about not being hospitiable. I tell you, there is so much deception going on these days...Lord how much longer!!!!! Keep preaching the truth Bro. Foster!

  • @singerro1005 In this age of information your intentional ignorance is inexcusable. If you believe that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about modern homosexuality.......clearly you don't own a bible (or an education). Worry less about homosexuals and worry more about the false witness you bear.

  • At 0:50 To 1:10 She Confesses As To How She Handles The Bible. Then At 1:23 She Flat Out Lied And Said That IT HAD NOTHING To Do With Homosexuality,But Its Written That The Angels Were Disguised As Men & The Men Of The City Wanted 2 Rape Them.And Heterosexual Men Dont Demand 2 Have Other Men Sent Outside So That They Can Rape Them.So Is She Saying That The Thought Of Commiting A Homosexual Act Happened Suddenly Upon Sight Of These Angels N Disguised That Were So Handsome That People Became Gay?

  • @MrHead1972 consider Ezekiel ch. 16: 49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. just a Thought.

  • @MrHead1972 Asshole.

  • @smurfboywv No Thanks!!!!!

  • God loves the sinner, hates the sin. He loves gay "people" but hates homosexuality in itself. I am surprised of the naivety of modern christians. Many think God never said homosexuality is wrong, in actuality he says it many, many times in both the Old and New Testament.

  • John 4:16-19. Jesus was talking to the woman at the well. He called her out & said the man she was with was not her husband! that deals with sexuality. the woman realized what he said was the truth: "... The woman answered and said, "I have no husband." Jesus said to her, "You have correctly said, 'I have no husband'; for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; this you have said truly." The woman said " Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.

  • Gay and Lesbian sex is a perverted substitute for the "real thing." Just like pediphilia, homosexuality is perversion. Your genetics does not allow for men to develop vaginas- you were born with a penis. To use the anus and colon as a vagina is not only unclean but it can seriously damage the function of your colon not to mention cause a person to be more susceptible to contracting sexually transmitted diseases. Bottom line is it is nasty and perverted.

  • I guess homosexuals are giving that dude church more money...he rather have chosen the homos then his old congregation...smh

  • Hueyn42, gays may be richer spiritually than homophobes, but that doesn't mean they necessarily have more money to give to their church. Pr-gay clergy are merely more aware of God's true purpose, that's all. 

  • @MattFrame lol...listen to yourself, they don't even believe all the verses in the bible because it doesn't support their lifestyle.

  • H42, right. No one SHOULD accept Bible verses that are clearly wrong & go against the "lifestyle" as you call it (in the real world, we call it the "life") that God creates for His children. Ignorant men have always used their "religion" to condemn whatever minorities they want to hate, and have written and interpreted their "religious" manuals to justify their bigotry, but the Lord's will in creating diversity is quite clear. He wants His gay children on earth. That's good enough for me.

  • @MattFrame Then you need to follow after Satan and not try to change what GOD already set up for HIS people. Since you want to be disobedient to what GOD commands us to do, GOD and JESUS may not be for you. To be against GOD is to be for Satan. Satan is the father of all lies, and he knows who his followers are- the children of disobedience. Repent and change your ways or you will not make it into Heaven. Or continue to follow Satan and await your judgement.

  • @Kalisa36, no, I'm afraid you can never convince me to follow you down the dark path into Satan's lair. No matter how easily & completely the devil can seduce those of you with weak minds, I will always stand by, & up for, the Lord. Satan uses you, his tools, to spread hatred against God's children, & confusion over the Lord's decisions, & without good, God-respecting people like me to shine the light on your corruption, I'm afraid you will be lost to God forever. Is serving Satan all you want?

  • @MattFrame Are you saying that homosexuals have a place in heaven? Do you actually believe that GOD will allow homosexuals to have sex with each other in heaven? Are you serious? In a post you made 2 weeks ago you wrote "no one should accept Bible verses that are clearly wrong and go against the "lifestyle" as you call it." Now, you are the one who has already slithered down the dark path of Satan spreading those lies. Who are you to change what GOD inspired holy men to write in the Bible?

  • "Are you saying that homosexuals have a place in heaven?"--Kalisa36

    Of course, no question.

    "Do you actually believe that GOD will allow homosexuals to have sex with each other in heaven?"

    Well, as much as He would allow heteros to copulate. Is that how you imagine heaven; people fornicating all over the place?

    "you are the one who has already slithered down the dark path of Satan spreading those lies"

    So, advocating God's supremacy over man is a "lie". Hmm, Satan's fooled you but good.

  • "Who are you to change what GOD inspired holy men to write in the Bible?"--Kalisa36

    I'm not changing anything; I'm acknowledging the reality: that God's wisdom, will, and creations reign over what any supposedly "holy" men and their stories contend. When the Lord's own creations and design reveal that the Bible authors are wrong, then I chose to side with God and accept His will. You don't have to like it or accept it, but God will always be right. That's just the way it is.

  • @MattFrame Yes, you are changing what GOD inspired holy men to write in the Bible when you are implying to others that the homosexual lifestyle is embraced by GOD. How can the Bible's authors be wrong when GOD was the ONE who told them what to write? You are not making any sense. You are not saved and born again when you say that the Bible is untrue. When you are saved there is a spiritual transforamtion that takes place which causes you not to want to sin anymore.

  • @MattFrame How are you respecting GOD when you are defiling your temple if you are having homosexual relations? GOD said that your body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not going to dwell in an unclean temple. If you are a practicing homosexual you need to repent just like fornicators, adulterers, pediphiles, murderes, thieves, all liars, etc. Do you believe that homosexuals are exempt from repentance? God did not create homosexuality- man did.

  • "How are you respecting GOD when you are defiling your temple if you are having homosexual relations?"--Kalisa36

    Gay people respect God the same way str8s do: with their hearts, minds & souls. The Lord is not offended by consenting adults in a loving relationship expressing emotional and sexual love for their partners. He designed human beings to do so, be they gay or str8.

    "The Holy Spirit is not going to dwell in an unclean temple."

    That's why I warn homophobes against their vile bigotry.

  • "If you are a practicing homosexual you need to repent just like fornicators, adulterers, pediphiles, murderes, thieves, all liars, etc."--Kalisa36

    Rational people can understand the difference between consenting,loving adult relationships, and murder or raping children. Why are self-proclaimed "religious" people always so hysterical? If you truly think two adults loving each other is akin to murdering someone, I'm afraid you're not capable of having a rational discussion.

  • "God did not create homosexuality- man did."--Kalisa36

    Prove it.

  • Wow the ministers to the right need! to read the bible!! Wow...God created Adam and Eve not Adam and steve....Wow they are against whats written... And thus are in error need to repent

  • "since you dont accept the bible so be the truth im am bowing out of this argument."--Lildon

    It's part of the manipulative technique used by the authors of the Bible, & the church in general, to keep their believers passive & under control: make sure they don't open their minds & learn anything from more educated, objective sources. People who need the Bible to be "true" are too frightened to search for answers, or to search for the Lord directly.

  • "thank GOD you are not a practising homosexual otherwise i would persevere."--Lildon

    The devil encourages his unwitting disciples into condemning God's children, be they black, gay, Jewish, etc., in an attempt to keep prejudice alive on this planet. It's sad that you would persevere in carrying out the devil's agenda  You need to turn away from such bigotry. The Lord will still forgive you if you repent in time. Go forth and sin no more, that's the best advice I can give you.

  • "(They) pretend they were born gay which is not true it really isnt."--Lildon

    God and all credible medical, scientific, and psychiatrist institutions disagree with you.

    ""anyway i dont want a reply and if you do i wont read it "

    You must ask yourself why education and truth scare you so much? Wouldn't God WANT you to use the mind He gave you? The devil wants to keep you ignorant, but would the Lord?

    May He one day open your eyes, your mind, and your heart.

    Good luck!

  • Mr. Meredith goes on & on about his selective, confused use of "love"- why does he do blatantly omit the word TRUTH which is always associated with the concept of LOVE in the Bible.Not all criticism or condemnation of the homosexual lifestyle is based on homophobia- it is also predicated on the commands to reject sexual immorality.The teaching about woman preaching refers to woman having a headship and the authority of their husbands (women = WIFE). Have these theologians heard of a Concordance

  • After listening and reading some of these comments, As for love that is GOD's greatest command, now when you have truely been redeem by the blood of JESUS that nastiness inside is remove an each day become task in fighting the flesh.

    If we are the image of GOD what part of him do you see as a homosexual.

    We must remember GOD was JESUS way before he was manifested in the flesh, the old testament many would rather eliminate it for their own desirers and lean on the new testament alone. .

  • AND DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT LOVE MEANS.THEY WILL GO AS FAR TO SAY THAT THEY LOVE GOD. AND THIS IS LOVE THAT WE WALK AFTER HIS COMMANDMENTS. THIS IS THE COMMANDMENT, THAT AS YE HAVE HEARD FROM THE BEGINING,YE SHOULD WALK IN IT. 2JOHN 1;6 SO I ASK THIS QUESTION DID GOD COMMANDED US TO BE A HOMOSEXUAL? NO. THATS MANS SINFUL NATURE. AND IF WE LOVE GOD WE WILL FOLLOW HIS COMMANDS, AND ONE OF THEM IS TO PICK UP YOUR CROSS AND DIE TO THE FLESH AND FOLLOW ME IF YOU CANT DO THAT YOU CANT BE MY DISCIPLE.

  • everything humas do is sin. wht they wear, what they, what they do, etc.

  • THESE PEOPLE ARE CRAZY. HOMOSEXUALITY IS PRACTICING SIN, DO THEY TAKE TIME TO STUDY THE BIBLE. THEY SHOULD READ ROMANS CHAPTER ONE THE WORD HAS A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS SINFUL BEHAVIOR. A HOMOSEXUAL IS NOT GOING TO HEAVEN IF HE DOES NOT REPENT OF HIS SINS.THE WORD SAYS HE THAT DOES NOT REPENT OF HIS SIN WILL DIE IN THEM. A MAN WILL NEVER REPENT OF HIS SIN UNLESS GOD PUTS IT IN HIS HEART TO DO SO,IT IS THE GOODNESS OF GOD THAT LEADTH A MAN TO REPENTANCE ROM 2;4 THEY TALK ABOUT LOVE(AGAPE)

  • Lord God please help us...please forgive us of our sins and our ignorance. please God guide us and show us the truth..so that we will live a life that is pleasing to you.

  • How much clearer can scripture be?? Lev 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind"

    For that ignorant woman preacher to say Sodom and Gomorrah was not about homosexuality shows how spirtually defunct she is! That is a terrible breakdown of the bible. She has no business being a pastor!

    Sodom and Gomorrah was a about men wanting to rape, sleep with, or know two men! Inhospitality! That is B.S!

  • I just want people to be nice to eachother. Mine opinion is just one of many.

  • The word is always true, it's just that so many people make fun of gays and cast them aside. Sometimes people come from a place of ridicule instead of love. Not everyone is like that thoug, I undesrtand that. Just some people can be so cruel to them. If it's a sin like lying and stealing it should be approached with love like 'hey, I'm concerned fore your soul. Let's pray' and not 'look at that flamer in pink. I wish he'd sit his tambourine playing behind down.'

  • @TheGoldstrings WRONG WRONG WRONG! They key is to obey God!! Just because Homosexuality is a sin does not mean we hate Gay people! It means that God hates that behavior! Just like a thief or a liar!!! Read the scripture! If you love God you will keep his commandments

  • Please tell me no one goes to her church... Homosexual men and women always try justifying their sin, makes me SICK!

  • @praisethelord20 " for it is impossible for them to reproduce children"........so, you're saying that every hetrosexual man who has ever recieved a blowjob from the wife is an abomination? Did you clearly think this through before posting? Hmmmm?

  • @praisethelord20 It is common knowledge among all educated biblical scholars that the practice of male rape as a punishment in "sodom and gomorrah" biblical times was perpetrated by HETROSEXUAL men. So.......how does this story in any way apply to modern homosexuals?

  • Jesus did deal with sexualilty when He dealt with marriage. Read Matthew 19:4-6. In the the text Jesus was responding to a question about divorce and not one time in the text did Jesus mention same sex relationships, in the beginning He made them male and female...in verse 6 its says "so then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate". He wasn't talking about the right person but He was speaking of male and female relationship.

  • @ikkabus76 Pumpkin......that is whats called an INTERPRETATION. iS god stupid? If he MEANT "between a man and a woman" then why didnt he say it? Do you even understand the difference between venial and mortal sin? Twisting and interpeting the word of god, and warping the bible into a weapon in your vendeta of hate is a large enough sin on its own.....clean up your own act before you judge others.

  • @clubindiana4 thanks for your response. I have studied biblical interpretation for years so I do understand clearly. No God is not stupid. And if you study scripture you would see that He only deals with male and female marriages. No hate here my cousin is a homosexual and I care for him dearly it breaks my heart that he has Aids right now but I love him to death . God doesn't hate people he hates the sin not the person. Christ came for us all not a group.

  • @ikkabus76 Studied it for years? Wow! So....tell me, in your studies, what would you say are the top ten mis-translations in the King James Bible?

    Yes, Aids is a terrible disease. I have a straight male friend who contracted HIV from casual sex and passed it along to his wife....but, I love them to death!

  • @clubindiana4 OMG dont get me strated on King James. I found not only mis-transltions but several scriptures thats not written in the Greek and Hebrew text. I read the Hebrew and Greek text in my studies.

  • @ikkabus76 And yet you still know absolutely nothing!

  • @ToWorshipHimintruth You want to find out....we can debate discuss anything you want. Bring it and lets do it. Prove me wrong

  • @ikkabus76 Okay lets do it!!! What you got man???

  • @ToWorshipHimintruth would you mind exchanging emails to discuss any topic you wish? Thanks for the conversation-I believe we all just striving to be better and will be

  • @ikkabus76 No I dont mind. Just send me your E mail or send me a message through you tube!

  • @ToWorshipHimintruth email address is jamesbw2@yahoo.com

  • homosexuals are going to hell. period, point blank, end of story.

  • Being gay is no more a sin than being black is. Uneducated men who don't understand the Lord have used the Bible to condemn homosexuals, just like they used it to make a case that African-Americans were abominations and abhorrent to God. Since God is the one who creates and keeps gays and blacks here on His earth, He obviously disagrees with the men who claim that homosexuals or African-Americans are loathsome. God loves all His children, including the gay & black ones. Only men hate.

  • @MattFrame homosexuality is a sin. The color of one's skin is not. That's why God punished Moses' sister and brother for speaking against his nubian wife, but he destroyed the cities of the plain for their pride in sexual perversion.

  • There are those who believe that being gay is a sin, just as there are those who believe that being black makes people of color abhorrent to God. Scripture, or their interpretation of it, is often the root of these contentions. Both anti-gays & anti-blacks are more than eager to speak on God's behalf, insisting that the Lord finds fault with the minority groups He creates. To me, however, God's continuing to population the world with diversity, including blacks & gays, speaks for itself.

  • @MattFrame Being gay is a sin! Being black is not! You are distorting truth!

  • Of course I'm not distorting the truth. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of those who use the Bible, or their interpretation of it, as a weapon against other minorities, while ignoring everything the book says, or is interpreted to say, about themselves. For generations, white "Christians" used the Bible to justify anti-black prejudice & racist laws, just like people today choose to use the book to discriminate against gays. God doesn't think being gay or black is sinful. Only misguided people do.

  • @gcmwatch How can you use myths from your bible as the basis for your argument ? It's an obviously and fatally flawed argument. I know you believe the bible and that's fair enough, but it's remarkably lame to try to back up an argument using source material that is itself questionable. It's akin to building a house on untested foundations. I'm not saying your faith is wrong, although I do believe it to be so. I'm saying your argument fails because it relies on assumptions which aren't proven.

  • @sawittisunga thats a fairly simple question to answer. But before we get to that, why are you even arguing against a "myth"? I mean if its just a myth to you, why are you even concerned/ Personally I ignore myths. They dont even rise to the level of attention getter to me. Perhaps its a potent enough "myth" that you feel the need to disprove it. But again, why the need to disprove something based solely on "assumptions"?

  • @gcmwatch...Perhaps you should re-read my post. I'm not arguing against these myths (incidentally they're not myths to me, they're myths period. Check the definition of the word), I'm saying that it's a woefully feeble method of argument to attempt to prove any point by using unproven data to form the proof of the argument. Your position and argument is no stronger after than it was before because the data you used to argue your case wasn't objectively trustworthy.

  • @sawittisunga Here's your answer. You are blocked from commenting here. Reason? Insulting the holy scriptures and our God who gave them by divine inspiration of his Spirit. I had a good mind to delete your garbage, but I'll leave it as a warning to others.

  • ok, so God destroyed a whole city because of being rude????? possible but probable.

  • THE LAW WAS NOT CHANGED BY JESUS AND THE LAW SAYS THAT MAN SHALL NOT LAY WITH MAN AND WOMAN SHALL NOT LAY WITH WOMEN THESE GAY ONLY WILL SEE IT THERE WAY I CANT WAIT FOR THE RAPTURE THEY GONNA BURN IN THE FIRE FOR ETURNITY AMEN BURN BABY BURN !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rev. Dennis Meredith and Dr. Kathl Martin are in error. Jesus is the Word. Jesus is in total argeement with the Father! God the Father stated Leviticus 20:13 that homosexuality is an abomination. If homosexuality was ok in the eyes of God, then why did He create woman instead of another man in the Garden of Eden? Fact is the homsexuality and its agenda is Anti-Christ.

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  • Jesus is the WORD OF GOD. He is the Logos. So when you see God dealing with homosexuality in the old testiment you see Jesus dealing with it. The guy closest to the interviewer is correct in what he said. Paul was an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ. Even Peter said that what Paul was scripture. The other two pastors are making up their own rules and are not submitted to God and are wayward. Second, no one is to be called Reverend and women aren't to be pastors according to the word. She's out of order!

  • The reason why Jesus never had to speak about it, was because He said, I cam not to do away with the law, which means, because the Law already addressed the homosexual issue, and he was talking to devout Jewish believers, who knew the Law. However, Paul, was dealing with a Gentile group who accepted the Gospel, and they were still believing that there carnal ways would still be acceptable. Now if homosexuals are going to be together and NOT HAVE SEX, then there is no sexual sin.

  • The reason why Jesus never had to speak about it, was because He said, I cam not to do away with the law, which means, because the Law already addressed the homosexual issue, and he was talking to devout Jewish believers, who knew the Law. However, Paul, was dealing with a Gentile group who accepted the Gospel, and they were still believing that there carnal ways would still be acceptable. Now if homosexuals are going to be together and NOT HAVE SEX, then there is no sexual sin.

  • @bishopsouels -- you are EXACTLY correct.... this is why so many in the gay christian church cult always attempt to use this argument while at the same time insisting that Paul was not even a true Apostle... The former Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong argues that the Apostle Paul was a latent, supressed gay man

  • let me explain, God (Jesus) said that all must come and repent and be baptized for the remission of sin. God hates SIN, he doesn't hate the individual. You must compel all to come to the knowledge of God. Man puts a measure on sin. To GOD all that sin is sin period. Romans 6:9, says Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived neither fornicators, idoloters, adulterers, nor infeminates nor abusers of theselves shall inherit the kingdom.

  • @ojmccray5 let me continue, you are correct, people do twist scripture, the lady say's paul says in his letters and his interpretation, Let me say, Paul was an apostle to the gentiles and he was schooled by God (Jesus himself) in the backside of the desert. How can Paul teach his own agenda, when he spoke the same gospel GOD"S WORD? He cannot makeGOD a liar. and everyone that is born of God would say the same Word. That is why you MUST, put precept upon precept, precept upon precept,

  • @ojmccray5 line upon line, line upon line, here a little and there a little. Not the way they do it now, they take one 1 verse and make a doctrine out of it. Every word must be established by two or more witnesses. God loves everybody and died for the whole world, even in all our filthiness, He bruised for all of our inquites because of sin, He became All for us, and now you still want to waddle in the very thing he came to root out (SIN?). And u say u love God. U r in error.

  • @ojmccray5 AMEN OJ, now that is the TRUE WORD of GOD!

  • @ojmccray5 go back and read Ephe.4 and on to 5, but most of all eat the whole roll. God is no respector of persons, if he destroyed sodom and Gomorah for their sin and homosexuallity was one of them, He would not be fair, if he destroyed them, why not you? Whoever you are. Not just homosex, but fornicators, murderers, liars, adulterers, anything in the (flesh) is emnity against God. That's it's best to get knowledge from GOD(Holy Ghost) and not man's doctrine. Read James. The whole book.

  • @ojmccray5 to the lady don't twist the scriptures, God is the same yesterday today and forever. God doesn't change with the times. He's Word will not be disanulled or abolished. To the gay pastor, you are going to hell if you don't repent and turn from your wicked ways. But, that's why you feel that way because you have never been told the truth. God is not going to make you change and serve him.

    Romans says he has given you over to a reprobate mind, read it for yourself. With all love, turn

  • @ojmccray5

    AMEN

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    AMEN OJ, now that is the TRUE WORD of GOD!

  • @ojmccray5 AMEN OJ, now that is the TRUE WORD of GOD!

  • @jmbhottie23 you are clearly missing the point. Christians believe gays shouldn't marry because it's unholy. Therefore, according to their logic, no non-Christian should be allowed to married.

    My statement is directed towards Christians!

  • that chick is dellusional and false god bless her

  • you can tell rev dennis is gay

  • No, it is NOT fear; it is NOT homophobia..... it is that homosexual behavior is very self-destructive, destructive to communities, destructive of healthy gender relationships and as the Apostle Paul describes, it is a behavior that is against nature and the laws of God. If homosexuality is ok then is it also ok for a man or women to be a[n] adulterer,a whore-monger, a thief. a liar or things such as this :??? Why not ? Here is a simple truth: ALL VIRTUES ARE ONE.

  • Rev Meredith says that Jesus never addressed human sexuality WHAT?! okay so the rest of the Bible is not important where it does address it? The Bible also says If you love me (Jesus) you will obey me. And what is he trying to say in that statement that we leave our salvation outside the bedroom door.

  • THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE PASSAGE OR STORY IN THE BIBLE WHERE JESUS CONDEMNED HOMOSEXUALS OR HATED THEM. Any type of hate towards people is NOT honored by God. So all you stone throwers get ready for Gods stones, they are worse. Hypocrisy is very present in modern day. The same church Jesus called hypocrites is the same church most of you worship or attend. His love commandment is not being honored by these hypocritical christians today. Go on Dennis Meredith speak the truth! God loves honesty!

  • @browneyez1979 exactly you can be against something and still be loving, hate the sin not the person because that person is not defined by their sins whether they know it or not

  • @browneyez1979 all sexual sin is condemned in the bible. Take some time to study. 

  • @gcmwatch The topic isnt sexual sin listen to the video again..lol....And my statement still stands without opposition cause theres still no solid evidence of it at all..So you take some time to study and find those passages which Jesus condemns homosexuality......there arent any.....

  • @browneyez1979 homosexuality is sexual sin according to the bible. Take some time to study to show yourself approved. 

  • @gcmwatch Typical ignorance as expected you cannot show any approval of your own studies because it simply isnt there bottom line. Jesus didnt speak of it and that's it.....Prove your position with one scripture of Jesus speaking on it and not your own opinion...

  • @browneyez1979 Romans 1:25-28. Please read

  • Please read Romans 1:25-28. Do not change the BIBLE

  • @browneyez1979 Basically the God of Israel that gave Moses the 10 commandment and all the statutes and judgementswas the same god that came in the Flesh who we Know is JESUS Christ....So Jesus Had already said (when he was Jehovah)in Leviticus 18:22"Thou shalt NOT LIE DOWN WITH MANKIN AS WITH WOMANKIND It is ABOMINATION". Leviticus 20:13 If a man lie with MANKIND ,as he lieth with a WOMAN,both of them have committed abomination:they shall surely be put to death;their blood shall be upon them.

  • @Committhyworks "as he lieth with a woman" would imply, to any intelligent person, that these scriptures refer to a straight married man having sex with another man.........of course this would be a sin. Whats your point? How does this in any way adress modern commited homosexual marriages/commitments?

  • God created man and woman. And those that knows the truth but not only not do it but supporting those that profane the name of the Almighty

  • @browneyez1979 Its not that Jesus did not beat up on sinners just the religious leaders. But sin is sin. Sex sin of all types are sinful.

  • @browneyez1979 THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE WHERE JESUS CONDEMNS BEASTIALLITY OR INCEST EITHER! SO SHOULD THAT BE ALLOWED AS WELL? THERE IS NOT ONE VERSE WHERE INSTRUCTIONS ARE GIVEN TO HOMOSEXUALS ON HOW THEY ARE TO TREAT ONE ANOTHER. BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF VERSES ON HOW A HUSBAND IS SUPPOSE TO TREAT WIS WIFE. EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED IN SEXUAL SIN LIKE ADULTERY AND FORNICATOIN MUST REPENT! WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOUR BETTER THEN THEY ARE?! YOU MUST REPENT AS WELL. THATS NOT HATE THATS THE TRUTH!

  • @browneyez1979 Revelation22:12 And ,behold, Icome quickly; and my reward is with me,to give every man according to his works

    Revelation22;:14-15"Blessed are they THAT DO HIS COMMANDMENTS,that they may have right to the tree of life,and may enter in through the gates of the city".15) For without are DOGS and sorcerers,whormongers,murderer­s andidolaters and whosever loveth and maketh a lie

  • @browneyez1979 DOG defined by the BIBLE Deuteronomi 23:17-18 "17There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a SODOMITE of the sons of Israel. 18Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a DOG, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are ABOMINATION unto the LORD thy God.

  • @browneyez1979 You are a sick misguided person that does not read the bible with the spirit of God! Jesus did not have to condemn homosexuality. GOD DID IT ALREADY! YOU ARE ANOTHER PERSON TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR WICKEDNESS! SAD AND PATHETIC! Your theory that Jesus did not speak on homosesxuality shows how scripturally unsound you are and spritually retarded especially if you are trying to justify what God himself calls an abomination!

  • @browneyez1979 "Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil." Ephesians 4:27 (KJV).

    We are called to be the salt and the light of the world, an to judge righteously. It is not the homosexuals that we hate, but their homosexuality. Sin of any kind has no rightful place in the church, though we know it happens. We are human afterall and we have struggles but we lovingly rebuke each other and lift each other up in prayer. This is right!

  • @browneyez1979 Leviticus 20:13 (New American Standard Bible) 13'(A)If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them. GOD dealt withit in leviticus. If that command is ineffective then effectively we can still kill murder the lord clearly hates homosexuality as stated in scripture. not here to condemn but to convict and prumote repentence and love.

  • Obviously, the men who wrote, edited and translated the Bible were 100%wrong in their anti-gay stance, as God is the one who creates homosexuals in the first place. When in doubt over who is right, men or God, it's better to go with the Lord and accept homosexuality the way He wants us to.

  • @MattFrame you are disagreeing with the word of GOD in the bible, the bible is the inspired word of GOD according to 2 Timothy 3:16 (Amplified Bible) 'Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God's will in thought, purpose, and action)',

  • @MattFrame disagree with the bible means you disagree with GODs viewpoint you simply cannot recieve scriptures you wanna recieve and reject others you must take the bible in its entirety if you want to succeed as a christian i really hope i have helped you for more scriptures against homosexuality please email me. GOD BLESS YOU 

  • Lildonleeydaprodigy, agreeing with the ideas put forth by human, fallible men, when their thoughts contradict the Lord's obvious will and creations, means you are rejecting the Lord's truth in favor of man's misinterpretations. Acknowledging the Bible authors' mistakes in favor of God's truth is the only way to succeed in accepting Him as the ultimate teacher and judge. When in doubt, it's always better to choose God's wisdom over man's contentions. The Lord is always right! :)

  • @MattFrame matt frame i woud like you to find a scripture that contradicts leviticus 20:13 and 1 corinthians 6:9-10 and woud also like to point out that if yu are caling the writers of the bible falible men who were under the inspiration of the holy spirit you are sugesting the holy spirit is fallible which is an abomination. If you see it this way why bother even readin the bible why bother even bein christan if thats how yu feel about the writers of the word of GOD. you HAVE rejected the bible

  • @MattFrame and can i also ask you what this truth is and where did you get this truth from because its not the bible and have doubted the authenticity of the holy spirit of GOD so where is this truth please explain this to me what is this truth

  • @MattFrame i just found another scripture that goes against homosexuality romans 1:26-29 face it man you have lost just accept the bible and its teaching give up your opinions and submit to the word of GOD nobodies is against gay people but we should be aginst gay as a concept please except GODs word it would make my day that i have helped someone up to now you have not found a scripture nor have you put up much of argument for homosexuality

  • Lild, if I accepted your contentions, it would mean that the men who wrote the Bible were correct, and God & His creations were wrong. Men used the Bible & their religion to claim that the world was flat, that the sun revolved around the earth, that black people were designed to be slaves, that women were inferior to men & shouldn't try to teach them, etc. Obviously, all of this is wrong, just like their misinterpretation of gays being "sinful" is wrong. God does not make mistakes, only men do.

  • @MattFrame answer me this matt how do you know that GOD finds homosexuality acceptable tell me where you got that from i will not stop until i prove to you that homosexuality is wro0ng whether you are a practisi9ng homosexuality or not it is sin i want my fellow brethren to live right and not grieve my best friend the holy spirit when they fullfill their own lustful desires and try to justify by GOD when GOD clearly detests it through many prophests.

  • Lild, no one has to "put up an argument" for gays, any more than they have to argue that blacks, women, left-handed people, or any other minority groups are fully equal human beings designed by God, worthy of all the same rights and privileges. Would you ask me to put up an argument as to why black people should, say, be allowed to get married, or "prove" that they are created by God just like everybody else? Remember, white Christians once forbid blacks many rights on "religious" grounds, too.

  • @Matt it is clear you have recieved alot of spirichal criticism from this as i have look at some of your previous arguments where in even those arguments you have not put up a case A difference between being black and being gay is that bible clearly detests gay it and has made it clear in genesis that a man should leave his mother and father and cleave to his WIFE and become one flesh. If there is a scripture in the bible that speaks agiainst black people please quote it.

  • Lil, yes, those who cannot cope with the fact that the Bible contains misinformation or misinterpretations do get quite upset, and are quick to criticize anyone who points out the truth. Independent thought scares them, I understand. Sure, the Bible writers may detest gay people, but the Lord does not, any more than He detests black people, although Christians have also gotten that misinformation from scripture. As for a man leaving His parents and marrying a wife, that edict is for str8 men.

  • @Matt so if you accept some parts of the bible and deny others how can you trust the ones that you accept if you dont believe the bible how can you even believe JESUS was even born how can you believe anything it says do you not know that all the books in the bible are all acounts written by 'fallible men' how can you even be a christian how do you know anything you read in the bible is just one big lie. you canot be selective you cant pick and choose yu cant deny a scripture coz u disagre

  • Lil, I don't really accept any part of the Bible as verifiably true, considering so many parts of it have proven to be wrong, absurd, or misinterpreted. Just look at how, in America's history, Christians used the Bible