To the "Moon Landings wer a hoax believers", you all don't seem to understand a simple fact. A photo or video is a 2 dimensional representation of a 3 dimentional field., hence, 1/3 of the infomation is missing!
@rthefish Actually, it's far more than that! Let's consider the information in a 1000x1000x1000 cube. You take a picture from one side at 1000x1000 resolution. That's 1 megapixel. Since color data is 24 bpp, that gives you 24 million bits of information to get the data about the cube.
But the WHOLE data about the cube would be 1000x1000x1000x24, not just 1000x1000x24. That would be 24 BILLION pixels! Your picture only has 1/10th of 1% of the information about the whole cube!
Even when proving mythbusters right or wrong, the photos themselves were hoaxes. But the fact that there was actually a landing is NOT fake. 2 Men walked on the moon, one did not get to walk on the moon in that crew. However , the photos and video are faked. People were on the moon but the pictures that were brought back could not be used. Nixon wanted it to be big, he made it big, that the pictures are fake doesn't make the spectacular fact of that there were men on the moon false.
why did you make this? it's a somewhat compelling argument for the apollo hoax. the fact that he landed first could've been because they had lighter tension on the mythbusters video.
@dudeeful1 I KNOW what the effect of lighter tension would be. That's why I think you're a complete goofball for suggesting it's a solution to the problem.
@shanedk your sweet charm not withstanding. you got be a moron of epic proportions if you think a lighter tension doesn't result in a faster fall rate. calling me a goofball, even if you're right, is not a valid counter argument.
@shanedk "His fall rate is too fast as it is!" that's my point. how is it that the obvious eludes your grasp so easily? more tension on the a16 vid than the myth busters vid. this is not an argument for proof.
@dudeeful1 Wait...so you KNOW that his fall rate is too fast, you KNOW that lighter tension increases the fall rate, and you STILL say that lighter tension is a solution???
And MORE tension isn't the solution, either, since that would make him TOO light. They have exactly the right tension for 1/6th gravity. It just CANNOT be accurately simulated with wires.
Hey uploader, you're a complete idiot who knows so little about anything that's it's hard to believe somebody hasn't killed you yet. I know you didn't realize this but have you ever thought of "jump altitude"? I'll put it in moron terms for your tiny brain, "Who jumped higher?" And besides the actual jumped looked close enough to anyone with a pair of fucking working eyes to see thats exactly how NASA pulled it off.
@yesiamawizardjonny I have proven several different ways that Young's jump--in height, time, and everything else--is EXACTLY what you would expect in lunar gravity.
"Looked close enough" DOES NOT CUT IT. Especially when the person doing the looking is a deluded hoaxtard.
@shanedk don't listen to yesiamawizardjonny he is the only moron here infact he is the kind of shit that neil armstong wipes off his shoe while strolling through the park because the truth is that he nor any other conspiracy theorist could ever fill armstrongs boots.. oh yeah and nice video by the way :D
Not only is ur arguement for the fall being longer in the moon jump enough to disprove WhiteJarrah, but ALSO the amount of strain on adam after landing is noticably larger, as his mucles are working against a greater force.
This astroclown Young or whoever is hanging in the air that means a wire prop has been used. In a true jump there should not be any "dwell" time.The dwell time is added by the wire prop.
@shanedk You don't need math, you need commonsense. Throw a ball up and videotape it. Rather bounce it on the floor and measure ascent time and descent time between two consecutive bounces. Then we'll talk. Tell me how much dwell time you get.
And when you do your ball experiment, make sure to slow down the playback to 246% of normal to make it match lunar gravity. Also make sure it bounces to the same height as Young.
@forestinfullbloom No, I PROVED that he wasn't! It's ADAM'S hangtime that is adversely affected by the wire--because it has LESS of an effect at apex! How you think it somehow has more is beyond me...
Adam is VITAL for the comparison, since we KNOW he was hanging from a wire.
Again, I have done DIRECT EXPERIMENTATION, and I have SHOWN THE MATH. YOU are the one who has done zilch. You haven't even done the experiment that you yourself proposed!
@shanedk Congratulations! You have joined the "Stupider Than Sarah Palin Band".
With this band you will have the privilege of doing stupid experiments to believe stupid hoaxes. Further, you can massage your ego with things like moon "landings", being the chosen people, believing that you will get rich one day because of capitalism etc. etc.
For the love of God Discovery Channel, can somebody please take this pathetic low budget show off the air. The MythBusters has become thee most annoying show on The Discovery Channel, hands down. Every weekend it seems there is another irritaing MythBusters Marathon airing which seems hell bent on destroying my weekend viewing. By the way, who the heck is even watching these Cheap Time Filler Marathons anyway,... the bedridden?
I am totally finished with watching this crappy show.
@Cressx Exactly what I said. Glad to see you are not a moron like the uploader. He says that the pack moves more than the astronauts?? HELL NO. Anything could have been done to secure the pack a lot tighter. Even fucking Duct Tape to his shoulders would secure the EVA pack so it doesn't move up and down. The uploader is a pathetic excuse at human intelligence.
Sand is back on ground shortly before astronot at highest position: T (sand) = 0.5 T(astron) So hanging time of astronot is at least double of sand and astronot should be at least 4 times higher.(square of time)
I measured it, I demonstrated it. TWICE. You're arguing with OBSERVE FACT. Look at my measurements; they are PRECISE pixel measurements that DO NOT SQUARE with your just-pulled-out-of-your-ass figures.
There are more than just gravity at play on the timing,
There is also the part about howmuch force each person used to jump, or howmuch they weighted, or if one of them was under the effect of 0 gravity for long periods of time, or if one of them was also jumping with clothes actingup in low gravity, requiring less force to gain momentum.
@davelantor Exactly. Adam was replicating Armstrong's weight, not Young's. His pack was most likely secured with less care than Young's to show that it would not wobble up and down. This video is bogus, just like the moon landing.
Actually the chances are the pseudo-astronauts of NASA have also used helium balloons in their suits for some of these footage's.
But what you fail to see, is that the so called by you " conspiracy theorists" are not responsible to demonstrate the ways the Moon Hoax was accomplished -not at all.This will be the job of the police and the justice authorities who should have step in ages ago(from 12/8/69 in fact) when crook Neil Armstrong said he couldn't see the stars "from the lunar surface".
@shanedk Congratulations your junk science here should help you with your resume to get on that crappy show Mythbitches or perhaps you are already working on it behind the scenes
The Comparison is weak. To many variables. I believe whitejarrah was trying to demonstrate that if you slowed down the film it looks very much like the moon footage, and it does. It doesn't mean anything? Just because you can dublicate something doesn't make it true. What difference does it make if it is exacltyl the same or not?
@frankyland2007 No, it doesn't! Look how his pack is moving around! Look how his helmet is moving around! Those are still obviously in one full G even if I WERE to acknowledge that Adam's downward acceleration matched--which it DOESN'T.
The best minds and engineers were put on the Apollo missions. Throughout history it has been, 5% of the population that invents and comes up with the ideas, with 15% that can understand and implement the idea or technology. 80% do the grunt work or don’t understand. Look at the technology around you today…80% have no idea how it works.
@realitylicker Look at how Adam's pack, helmet, etc. moves around compared to Young's. ALL of these things would have to have multiple wires attached--including to every single wrinkle in his suit!
oh come on, you don't have to go to the moon to film a jump like that, nasa has that zero G chamber they train the astronots in, they can easily dial that down to moon gravaty and film such a jump.
(btw, ofcourse I'm kiding, we all know the alians never gave us the blue prints for a zero G chamber).
@manaman70 errrr .... not reading the whole comment, are we? like I said, the aliens never gave us the blue prints to the zero G chamber, we only had it for a short while to train for the moon landing.
@eyallev What the...? I swear that blurb at the bottom was not visible at all when I read the comment. I will just go ahead and hang my head in shame for a minute or two for missing that.
As the mythbusters have pointed out, the movement would have been, alot more artificial. Many more scientists than just a few handfull of hoax advocates would have identified the inconsistencies earlier on. This arguement is clearly not about gravity, wire suspension, or physics, but clearly that hoax advocates want to believe in a hoax and will use any far fetched proof they can conjure up to support their silly claims. Deductive reasoning is all one needs to dismiss these silly theories.
for example, each astronaut appears to move a certain way. This remains consistent, this fluid motion. However, if they were suspended with wires, each of them would move differently because there would have been far more variables. Astonauts weight, rig inconsitencies, resistance of movment, the pullys and weight suspension systems, ect. The very fact that all the fluid motions are the same, in itself is proof that it was impossible to fake. Its just science and deductive reasoning.
Excellent video. Hoax advocates fail to understand that the fluid of motion, when watching the equipment on the astronauts back, versus 1/6th gravity environment is easily dicernable if you know what to look for. In a 1/6th grav environment there is a slight pause at the height of his jump, where the kinetic energy going up comes to an end. Wires cannot simulate this, as the astronaut is being subjected to earths gravity and inconsistencies would be far more apparent had the landings been faked.
@axilmar That's a bogus argument. With the TONS of evidence showing that the ONLY plausible explanation is humans going to the moon, the burden of proof is on the hoaxtards.
@axilmar It's not supposed to be. It's a rebuttal of someone else's claim, and as such, only has to relate to that. And it does. Jarrah's claim is dead and buried.
@stewielips No, it was ONLY the plane where they couldn't do the jump (and if you know of an aircraft large enough to do it PLEASE post the model number).
If we were to believe conspiracy theorists, many thousands of NASA employees, independent scientist/physicists, the news media and countries from all over the world, past and present, would have to be in on the conspiracy. This is what moon hoaxers do: They come up with a conspiracy, when that is debunked they call that part of the conspiracy. Because they have no evidence and grasp at straws, they are forced to build a conspiracy upon a conspiracy in order to sustain their silly lies.
@Surhotchaperchlorome Bogosity. First of all, he's clearly lying with the 0cm thing; you can clearly tell (especially by looking at Young's right foot) that he is off the ground some ways.
Second, there is no such thing as "Frame 1:09." There are 30 frames in each second of video, including that one.
Third, notice how he didn't show you the frame immediately before that one?
@EGMAG Anyone can jump knee-height? Okay, YOU try it, video it, and upload it to YouTube. Let's see it! I'm not even going to ask you to do it with a 69kg backpack on.
At least your not being nasty again. Thank you for that. Let's see. The astronauts admirably were trained to be in excellent shape at the time. It is probable if faked the back packs were empty air filled boxes assuming if it is fake. Now for most athletic healthy people it is very easy to make jumps past knee height with or without wire lifts. So without harsh rash judgments you can believe it.
@EGMAG Then find the person you know who can jump the highest, film him jumping EXACTLY the same way as Young does (even without a 60kg pack), measure it and see if he makes it anywhere NEAR knee-height.
@EGMAG If you look closely at the PLSS on the jump salute, it moves decidedly NOT as an empty box! It has significant inertia going up and down. The jump is relative to Moon gravity, and is only close to Earth gravity when it is sped up by the difference in the ballistic motion of 2.45 (search moonhoax math madness). Wires? Impossible.
@EGMAG Ok, agreed. It isn't an empty box and clearly has significant mass. Unfortunately you have no explanation for it, so resort to your dumbo comments. I can't wait for your follow up witticism.
@EGMAG There's no chance that the backpacks were empty boxes. The astronauts couldn't possibly move the way they did if there wasn't a LOT of mass in them. You can tell by where their center of mass is (notice how they're having lean forward all the time). A man with an empty box on his back can't move around like that bent forward that way.
I think all the moon hoax stuff is nonsense, but don't they think that the jump was done without a rig and then slowed down? The claims that I have seen say that he should go much higher if it was on the moon (I know the reasons that he didn't - such as weight of space suit and it being under pressure restricts the amount he could bend his knees). You should compare a jump without a rig on earth and then slow it down to the appropriate amount, it would probably look closer to the real thing.
@LordBLB No conventional ground-based telescope could possibly resolve details on the Lunar surface small enough to pick up anything left by the landings (since atmospheric effects limit effective aperture to about 10"). An adaptive-optics scope does better, but the angular size is too small for any that currently exist. One of the recent orbiters, however, was able to pick out the larger objects at the landing sites, like the descent stages.
@evensgrey "no conventional ground-based telescope"
That would be why I said "powerful ground-based telescope". Yes, we can observe the landing areas from Earth (I did NOT say it was crystal clear). But you CAN make out the landing areas, debris, stages, and even the tracks left by the moon vehicle they drove around. Couple that with the orbiter photos, and I can't see why people would say it never happened.
My whole point was this moon landing hoax crap is just silly and easy to dismiss.
It's still rational to assume that maybe the weight used was slightly different. Mythbusters should have done both together, if they had done they wouldn't have "busted" it.
People seem to forget that we were in a space race. Russia would NOT allow the U.S to fake a moon landing, do you really think Russia would be ok with the U.S getting all the credit for a faked landing? If so, considering a faked landing wouldnt be difficult, especially in todays standards, then why didnt Russia fake their own or why dont we fake more today? Simply because it was never faked, We went to the moon, whats so hard to believe?
@ballermd0 I have yet to see a hoaxer post a genuine video of a claim being put to the test, not one!!! If anything is total BS its the desperate hoaxer claims
@nosajj12345 then obviously you either live in a cave or perhaps on THE MOON because there are plenty of valid videos that prove the moon landings were hoaxed, including one where the astronauts were caught faking video of a far off return to Earth while still in low Earth orbit. Explain that hotshot. But even with proof like this you're so brainwashed you'll never believe the truth even though it sits right in front of you.
@ballermd0 That's a Bart Sibrel LIE. He took a publicly-available video of the astronauts ON EARTH, TRAINING for the mission, and PRETENDED it was them faking it in low orbit.
@shanedk right... and exactly how could he have done that so perfectly as an amateur filmmaker? Plus the scientific community as a whole does not really know if man can survive a trip outside the Van Allen belt even with today's tech, yet NASA and the government want us to believe man could do it back in the 60's?
@shanedk it's one thing to get NASA footage and lie about it, but totally another to alter it with such precision as you claim he did. Secondly, if Sibrel did manage to pull it off, then a simple way to prove it is to provide the original unaltered NASA training footage and that will settle the matter once and for all. I have yet to see such footage from the hoax debunkers like yourself.
@shanedk as for man traveling outside the Van Allen belt being laughable. I guess if that's the best response you could come up with, well that says a lot. Tell me why the only (supposed) manned missions outside lower Earth orbit only been Apollo missions? Why hasn't NASA or any other country gone back since then, or even in middle orbit? Because it's a hoax. And since it is one of the greatest ones in history, don't you think the gov. would put in place its own hoax busters at no cost? hmm
@ballermd0 "Why hasn't NASA or any other country gone back since then"
We haven't been back because its expensive. Don't you know your history. Lack of public interest, politics, and money. No hoax, no conspiracies. Try thinking critically for a change. And what is your evidence (not conjecture) but hard evidence that all six missions were faked??
@ballermd0 You know the ISS is located IN the Van Allen belt. There are people LIVING in it as we speak. Take that and stick it as far up your ass as you can get it, you gimp.
@Adkit2 i love it when arrogant, rude people can be proven dead wrong. The ISS is located in low earth orbit, at a very safe distance of only 211 miles above the earth. Except near the poles, the Van Allen Belt generally doesn't start until middle earth orbit, at about 1,240 miles out. Do your research before you try to call someone out and insult them.
i love it when arrogant, rude people can be proven dead wrong. The ISS is located in low earth orbit, at a very safe distance of only 211 miles above the earth. Except near the poles, the Van Allen Belt generally doesn't start until middle earth orbit, at about 1,240 miles out. Do your research before you try to call someone out and insult them. And thus the ISS pass THROUGH the low end of the Van Allen belt all the time. The "South Atlantic Anomaly".I win
@Adkit2 yes it does periodically pass through the South Atlantic Anomaly, but in your initial response you made it seem as though they are constantly living "IN" the belt when they are not. Plus the ISS requires extra shielding in order to pass through the belt, shielding that the "supposed" Apollo missions spacecrafts did not, and could not have. Lending greater credibility to the fact that the Apollo program was staged. Thank you.
@ballermd0 The Apollo mission went through the belt twice... the ISS goes through the belt over and over. Your theory is completely void. The radiation you'd get from living on the ISS is no more than the radiation you'd get from living in an airplane. Granted people don't LIVE in airplanes but you see, my point still stands: the Van Allen belt is not that dangerous! In fact radiation is a percentage RISK of cancer or radiation poisoning, it's not a live or die kind of danger at all.
@iceyflames7 search for Banned in America: Proof of Fake Moonlanding. Truth comes near end but watch the whole thing. Other videos show the truth as well but i picked this 1 because it shows a 1994 Armstrong speech where you can just see the guilt he has 4 being part of this great hoax that changed history forever. He says, "breakthroughs available to those who can remove ONE OF truth's protective layers. Notice the use of "one of" in speech. Means he's talkin bout a single event. HIS!
With all the stupid struff floating around where the Government is tring to convence everybody that God is Dead, We are all going to hell in a hand basket, and Obama and the Government is there to save us ! I think the people is not buying it but just sitting back and waiting for them to make their move and you will see all hell break loose ? Obama is the only one getting upset for the people are just taking it with a smile and is going to get him when the election time comes !
This crap is intended to get people to switch off....
As if the moon hoax is some never ending technical argument.
The Apollo missions are becoming more and more absurd as time goes by - if you thinks this crap is relevant its time to take a step back and look at the woods.
The hoax is a lot more fundamental that wires and crap like this clip.
Research it properly and free your mind. Look were you should and not were others lead you.
"Free your mind" Corny cliches are no match for a proper scientific education.
Perhaps the primary reason we believe NASA over the Hoax idiots, is that NASA actually passed the 8th grade. THEY dont have to be continually corrected on elementary points of science.
If your "hoax" was so damned obvious, we wouldnt have to keep reminding you of all the physics and astronomy you ignore, screw-up, and prove your continual ignorance in.
Does anyone know the details of the wire rig that Adam used? Did it use springs? Counterweights? Hydraulics? One would have to be careful in the design no matter how it worked. Ideally it should put a continuous upward force on his body equal to 5/6 of his weight regardless of his position and velocity. Springs might exert a force that varied with position, while weights would introduce more inertia. (more)
And there's nothing to be done about the restoring torque that the cable applies to his body when he rolls or pitches away from the vertical. I think that's the main reason a cable rig can't produce a convincing 1/6g.
Another is that the cable only acts at one point behind his neck; it can't simulate the effect of lower gravity on his limbs, his backpack, or even the straps hanging down from it.
@shanedk Very interesting - how did you find that out? Was it described on their website?
I wonder about the artifacts produced by counterweighting. For one thing, they introduced extra inertial mass to the system; they may have applied a constant static force to Adam, but the dynamic force could be very different. Imagine what happens when he jumps up faster than the acceleration of gravity; the support line would go slack because the weights haven't fallen yet.
@shanedk I watched the episode closely, but I don't remember seeing any counterweights, or hearing them mentioned. They simply said that it had been custom designed for them by Trapeeze World, but that was about it.
It's simple gravitational physics as demonstrated by Galileo. Two similar objects will fall at the same rate, no matter their weight (though the heavier will fall with more force, ie- both will hit you in the head at the same time, but the heavier one will smack you harder).
How do you know they jumped with equal force? Maybe one of the men used his legs more to propell higher, that's all i'm saying, i'm not a "hoaxtard" (lol) just offering my view and looking at this from different angles.
@DUB8leA It doesn't matter. They'd still follow the same curve; the only difference would be the magnitude of the curve, not the shape. It should still be a near-perfect parabola, and Adam's isn't.
you have taken force out of the equation, how can you be sure enough that the force in the initial jump is the same between these two men? Are they the same weight? You're forgetting key variables in your conclusion. Nice attempt. It's becoming more and more like a religion this malarky.
@Surhotchaperchlorome Well, the purpose of the counter-weight was to account for the differences between Earth and lunar gravity. Objects (regardless of mass) fall at a different rate on the moon than they do the Earth, and since Adam's jump took place on Earth, and Young's jump ABSOLUTELY TOOK PLACE ON THE MOON, that was what they had to equalize.
Meaning they would have to counter his weight with 5/6 of Adam's weight giving him a "weight" of 1/6th of Earth weight (with same mass, obviously), making it so he'd have the same acceleration due to gravity as if he was on the moon.
@Surhotchaperchlorome Right. Saying he has to match Young's weight (as a lot of the hoaxtards say) is just ridiculous, because they'd affect the acceleration.
It's amazing how retarded conspiracy theorists can be. It truly, completely boggles the mind. I'd like to see some in-depth psychological studies to explain them
nice comparison, but I noticed a variable that wasn't taken into consideration, Adam didn't jump as high as Young did, making him first to touch the ground, and as for the hang time goes, try tossing a tennis ball into the air at a different hight each time, record it with a camera, and watch the difference in hang time, I'm sure you will see a difference, also other things that effect hangtime, mass and weight, check it out
@Darkxairyu I was examining Jarrah's claim, so that's Jarrah's mistake, not mine.
As for your tennis ball, it will ALWAYS have the same curve, even if the timing is different. That's what I'm trying to show here: Adam's curve doesn't follow the normal gravitational parabola because of the changing effects of the counterweight.
Mass and weight have NOTHING to do with it. Objects fall at the same rate regardless.
That mythbuster man sayed he was NEARLY the same weight as the moon guy, but mythbuster man had little bit more weight , so he lands on the ground first, go make a test or something u see. And yeah sorry for my gramma. But i hope u understand what i write here.
@xbox360ost Uh, no. Objects subject to the same acceleration fall at the same rate REGARDLESS of weight. What is it about the last 400 years of physics that confuses you hoaxtards?
Beautiful analysis so simple and true, too bad morons can't see this video for what it is...Well done. Thx.
Tweekerhead 7 months ago
I propose that we take everyone who says the moon landing is a hoax... and launch them to the moon.
They can get back on their own.
rkyeun 9 months ago
To the "Moon Landings wer a hoax believers", you all don't seem to understand a simple fact. A photo or video is a 2 dimensional representation of a 3 dimentional field., hence, 1/3 of the infomation is missing!
rthefish 10 months ago
@rthefish Actually, it's far more than that! Let's consider the information in a 1000x1000x1000 cube. You take a picture from one side at 1000x1000 resolution. That's 1 megapixel. Since color data is 24 bpp, that gives you 24 million bits of information to get the data about the cube.
But the WHOLE data about the cube would be 1000x1000x1000x24, not just 1000x1000x24. That would be 24 BILLION pixels! Your picture only has 1/10th of 1% of the information about the whole cube!
shanedk 10 months ago
@shanedk Can the image check for C02? if theres air the we know its hoax, it all is. its 9/11 you all been taken for ride to fucken Afgahanstan
GalaticSpaceHero 4 months ago
@shanedk i have no clue what u said.... but you blew my friken mind !
stranger1324 4 months ago
Even when proving mythbusters right or wrong, the photos themselves were hoaxes. But the fact that there was actually a landing is NOT fake. 2 Men walked on the moon, one did not get to walk on the moon in that crew. However , the photos and video are faked. People were on the moon but the pictures that were brought back could not be used. Nixon wanted it to be big, he made it big, that the pictures are fake doesn't make the spectacular fact of that there were men on the moon false.
Bowzerbro 10 months ago
Good analysis ... but the video title is confusing.
I came here thinking this was yet another attept to show hoax :-( ... but was relieved to find common sense :-).
Maybe that was your intention?
SearchBucket 11 months ago
why did you make this? it's a somewhat compelling argument for the apollo hoax. the fact that he landed first could've been because they had lighter tension on the mythbusters video.
dudeeful1 11 months ago
@dudeeful1 "Lighter tension"? Are you SERIOUS???
shanedk 11 months ago
@shanedk yea, i'm serious. you can't picture how that can be done? wow.
dudeeful1 11 months ago
@dudeeful1 I KNOW what the effect of lighter tension would be. That's why I think you're a complete goofball for suggesting it's a solution to the problem.
shanedk 11 months ago
@shanedk your sweet charm not withstanding. you got be a moron of epic proportions if you think a lighter tension doesn't result in a faster fall rate. calling me a goofball, even if you're right, is not a valid counter argument.
dudeeful1 11 months ago
@dudeeful1 "you got be a moron of epic proportions if you think a lighter tension doesn't result in a faster fall rate."
His fall rate is too fast as it is!
shanedk 11 months ago
@shanedk "His fall rate is too fast as it is!" that's my point. how is it that the obvious eludes your grasp so easily? more tension on the a16 vid than the myth busters vid. this is not an argument for proof.
dudeeful1 11 months ago
@dudeeful1 Wait...so you KNOW that his fall rate is too fast, you KNOW that lighter tension increases the fall rate, and you STILL say that lighter tension is a solution???
And MORE tension isn't the solution, either, since that would make him TOO light. They have exactly the right tension for 1/6th gravity. It just CANNOT be accurately simulated with wires.
shanedk 11 months ago
shanedk. NASA shows that a man should be able to jump 14 feet up. I dont know.. I think you show nothing here.
blackpowderdk 11 months ago
@blackpowderdk citation needed.
Virgil0211 11 months ago
@blackpowderdk he's not one of the premiere hoax debunkers. i really wish he'd quit trying. kinda painful to watch.
dudeeful1 11 months ago
Wasent he supposed to be able to jump 14 feet up? so wyh all this bitchen' about milli- secs?
blackpowderdk 11 months ago
@blackpowderdk "Wasent he supposed to be able to jump 14 feet up?"
Um, no.
shanedk 11 months ago
all i want to know is how they got past the Van Allen Radiation Belt,anyone know?cause we can't do it today,how'd we do it back then?
farenht456 11 months ago
@farenht456 We can and we do. The ISS goes through the lower part of the belt several times a day.
shanedk 11 months ago
Hey uploader, you're a complete idiot who knows so little about anything that's it's hard to believe somebody hasn't killed you yet. I know you didn't realize this but have you ever thought of "jump altitude"? I'll put it in moron terms for your tiny brain, "Who jumped higher?" And besides the actual jumped looked close enough to anyone with a pair of fucking working eyes to see thats exactly how NASA pulled it off.
yesiamawizardjonny 1 year ago
@yesiamawizardjonny I have proven several different ways that Young's jump--in height, time, and everything else--is EXACTLY what you would expect in lunar gravity.
"Looked close enough" DOES NOT CUT IT. Especially when the person doing the looking is a deluded hoaxtard.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk don't listen to yesiamawizardjonny he is the only moron here infact he is the kind of shit that neil armstong wipes off his shoe while strolling through the park because the truth is that he nor any other conspiracy theorist could ever fill armstrongs boots.. oh yeah and nice video by the way :D
Jimbob8971 11 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny
If you really buy into the moon landing hoax bullshit, please explain the photos we have of the LEMs on the surface of the moon.
SanRafaelSwell 11 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny
I should also mention that in one of these photos we can actually see the astronauts' footpath. How did NASA fake this?
SanRafaelSwell 11 months ago
Not only is ur arguement for the fall being longer in the moon jump enough to disprove WhiteJarrah, but ALSO the amount of strain on adam after landing is noticably larger, as his mucles are working against a greater force.
shinom0ri 1 year ago
@shinom0ri Yes, and also the way his suit and pack were hanging off of him instead of moving up and down with him the way Young's were.
There really is nothing about the two jumps that matches! So I really have to wonder what these deluded morons are seeing.
shanedk 1 year ago
cool
theseushobbes 1 year ago
This astroclown Young or whoever is hanging in the air that means a wire prop has been used. In a true jump there should not be any "dwell" time.The dwell time is added by the wire prop.
forestinfullbloom 1 year ago
@forestinfullbloom Learn some basic physics, idiot.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Basic physics
Ascent time = descent time.
The astronot is "dwelling" in the air/space means wire prop.
forestinfullbloom 1 year ago
@forestinfullbloom You DO realize that, in THIS universe, massive objects have to stop to reverse direction, right?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Massive objects don't wait for 07 clicks to come down. ROFL. Throw a ball vertically up and measure the ascent time and descent time.
One experiment is worth 10 theories.
Astronaut starts to ascend 74
Astronaut peaks 92
Astronaut starts to descend 99
Astronaut lands 119
Error of 7 clicks caused by wire prop.
forestinfullbloom 1 year ago
@forestinfullbloom "Massive objects don't wait for 07 clicks to come down"
Show your math. I've shown mine. His rate of acceleration is PRECISELY that of lunar gravity.
"One experiment is worth 10 theories."
Well, I've done it TWICE. With LOTS of math to back it up. Where's yours?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk You don't need math, you need commonsense. Throw a ball up and videotape it. Rather bounce it on the floor and measure ascent time and descent time between two consecutive bounces. Then we'll talk. Tell me how much dwell time you get.
forestinfullbloom 1 year ago
@forestinfullbloom "You don't need math, you need commonsense."
Appeal to Common Sense is a fallacy. Math works.
And when you do your ball experiment, make sure to slow down the playback to 246% of normal to make it match lunar gravity. Also make sure it bounces to the same height as Young.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk so you are saying that on lunar surface, the ascent time and descent time are different?
forestinfullbloom 1 year ago
@forestinfullbloom They're equivalent to each other, but they take 2.46 times as long as they would on Earth due to the 1/6th gravity.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk So you agree that the astroclown was propped up on wire? coz he was dwelling after peaking for about 7 clicks.
forestinfullbloom 1 year ago
@forestinfullbloom No, I PROVED that he wasn't! It's ADAM'S hangtime that is adversely affected by the wire--because it has LESS of an effect at apex! How you think it somehow has more is beyond me...
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Don't bring adam into all this. You proved zilch. You started out to prove the apollo hoaxers wrong and ended up proving the apollo hoax.
In a vertical jump there should be no dwell time. Basic physics.
forestinfullbloom 1 year ago
@forestinfullbloom "Don't bring adam into all this."
Adam is VITAL for the comparison, since we KNOW he was hanging from a wire.
Again, I have done DIRECT EXPERIMENTATION, and I have SHOWN THE MATH. YOU are the one who has done zilch. You haven't even done the experiment that you yourself proposed!
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Congratulations! You have joined the "Stupider Than Sarah Palin Band".
With this band you will have the privilege of doing stupid experiments to believe stupid hoaxes. Further, you can massage your ego with things like moon "landings", being the chosen people, believing that you will get rich one day because of capitalism etc. etc.
forestinfullbloom 1 year ago
@forestinfullbloom Thank you for showing that you have absolutely nothing.
shanedk 1 year ago
For the love of God Discovery Channel, can somebody please take this pathetic low budget show off the air. The MythBusters has become thee most annoying show on The Discovery Channel, hands down. Every weekend it seems there is another irritaing MythBusters Marathon airing which seems hell bent on destroying my weekend viewing. By the way, who the heck is even watching these Cheap Time Filler Marathons anyway,... the bedridden?
I am totally finished with watching this crappy show.
I'm done !!!
Tiberiusduck 1 year ago
or one of them simply put more force into the jump
Cressx 1 year ago
@Cressx Exactly what I said. Glad to see you are not a moron like the uploader. He says that the pack moves more than the astronauts?? HELL NO. Anything could have been done to secure the pack a lot tighter. Even fucking Duct Tape to his shoulders would secure the EVA pack so it doesn't move up and down. The uploader is a pathetic excuse at human intelligence.
yesiamawizardjonny 1 year ago
@yesiamawizardjonny "Anything could have been done to secure the pack a lot tighter."
You really have no fucking clue what you're talking about? (Well, if you did, you wouldn't be a hoaxtard.)
That DOES NOT CHANGE the force of gravity that the pack is experiencing. It has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with how the pack is secured. IDIOT.
shanedk 1 year ago
The sand goes almost as high as the astronots'feet yet falls much, much quicker.....
losability 1 year ago
@losability Sigh...No, it doesn't. Rebutted long, LONG ago. Sand and astronaut fall at EXACTLY the same rate, which is EXACTLY 1/6th gravity.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Sigh. It does not.
Sand is back on ground shortly before astronot at highest position: T (sand) = 0.5 T(astron) So hanging time of astronot is at least double of sand and astronot should be at least 4 times higher.(square of time)
Yet sand comes almost as high as astronot.
losability 1 year ago
@losability "Sigh. It does not."
I measured it, I demonstrated it. TWICE. You're arguing with OBSERVE FACT. Look at my measurements; they are PRECISE pixel measurements that DO NOT SQUARE with your just-pulled-out-of-your-ass figures.
shanedk 1 year ago
There are more than just gravity at play on the timing,
There is also the part about howmuch force each person used to jump, or howmuch they weighted, or if one of them was under the effect of 0 gravity for long periods of time, or if one of them was also jumping with clothes actingup in low gravity, requiring less force to gain momentum.
davelantor 1 year ago
@davelantor Exactly. Adam was replicating Armstrong's weight, not Young's. His pack was most likely secured with less care than Young's to show that it would not wobble up and down. This video is bogus, just like the moon landing.
yesiamawizardjonny 1 year ago
Actually the chances are the pseudo-astronauts of NASA have also used helium balloons in their suits for some of these footage's.
But what you fail to see, is that the so called by you " conspiracy theorists" are not responsible to demonstrate the ways the Moon Hoax was accomplished -not at all.This will be the job of the police and the justice authorities who should have step in ages ago(from 12/8/69 in fact) when crook Neil Armstrong said he couldn't see the stars "from the lunar surface".
potrodsas 1 year ago
@potrodsas "Actually the chances are the pseudo-astronauts of NASA have also used helium balloons in their suits for some of these footage's."
Geez, did you not see the episode of Mythbusters where they showed you needed a raft the size of an aircraft hangar to lift just Adam?
Oh, wait, they're part of the conspiracy, aren't they?
Idiot.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Congratulations your junk science here should help you with your resume to get on that crappy show Mythbitches or perhaps you are already working on it behind the scenes
therushfan2112rush 1 year ago
So what? The astro-not's puppeteer had slightly more tension on the line. Big deal.
The point is, Jarrah White exposed Mythbusters' deceptive techniques and unfortunately too many see the Mythbusters as some kind of authority.
jelinto 1 year ago
@jelinto Slightly more tension??? Do you nutbars even THINK about what you're saying???
The Mythbusters showed--to a COMPLETE CERTAINTY--that there is NO WAY the footage could have been faked with wires.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk No they didn't. Not at all. The footage was faked, there was no moon landings. Get over it people.
yesiamawizardjonny 1 year ago
The Comparison is weak. To many variables. I believe whitejarrah was trying to demonstrate that if you slowed down the film it looks very much like the moon footage, and it does. It doesn't mean anything? Just because you can dublicate something doesn't make it true. What difference does it make if it is exacltyl the same or not?
frankyland2007 1 year ago
@frankyland2007 No, it doesn't! Look how his pack is moving around! Look how his helmet is moving around! Those are still obviously in one full G even if I WERE to acknowledge that Adam's downward acceleration matched--which it DOESN'T.
shanedk 1 year ago
that was a great observation shanedk I'll be sure to bring this up next time I talk to a conspiracy nut.
Limejello10512 1 year ago
The best minds and engineers were put on the Apollo missions. Throughout history it has been, 5% of the population that invents and comes up with the ideas, with 15% that can understand and implement the idea or technology. 80% do the grunt work or don’t understand. Look at the technology around you today…80% have no idea how it works.
inotnad 1 year ago
What if different sized pulleys/cogs or even wire thickness was used? just a thought...
You see i have no understanding of how they work.
realitylicker 1 year ago
@realitylicker Look at how Adam's pack, helmet, etc. moves around compared to Young's. ALL of these things would have to have multiple wires attached--including to every single wrinkle in his suit!
shanedk 1 year ago
oh come on, you don't have to go to the moon to film a jump like that, nasa has that zero G chamber they train the astronots in, they can easily dial that down to moon gravaty and film such a jump.
(btw, ofcourse I'm kiding, we all know the alians never gave us the blue prints for a zero G chamber).
eyallev 1 year ago
@eyallev NASA has a zero G chamber? Since when, and if they have that why do they still do suit training in a giant swimming pool?
manaman70 1 year ago
@manaman70 errrr .... not reading the whole comment, are we? like I said, the aliens never gave us the blue prints to the zero G chamber, we only had it for a short while to train for the moon landing.
;-)
eyallev 1 year ago
@eyallev What the...? I swear that blurb at the bottom was not visible at all when I read the comment. I will just go ahead and hang my head in shame for a minute or two for missing that.
manaman70 1 year ago
As the mythbusters have pointed out, the movement would have been, alot more artificial. Many more scientists than just a few handfull of hoax advocates would have identified the inconsistencies earlier on. This arguement is clearly not about gravity, wire suspension, or physics, but clearly that hoax advocates want to believe in a hoax and will use any far fetched proof they can conjure up to support their silly claims. Deductive reasoning is all one needs to dismiss these silly theories.
llTungstenII 1 year ago
for example, each astronaut appears to move a certain way. This remains consistent, this fluid motion. However, if they were suspended with wires, each of them would move differently because there would have been far more variables. Astonauts weight, rig inconsitencies, resistance of movment, the pullys and weight suspension systems, ect. The very fact that all the fluid motions are the same, in itself is proof that it was impossible to fake. Its just science and deductive reasoning.
llTungstenII 1 year ago
Excellent video. Hoax advocates fail to understand that the fluid of motion, when watching the equipment on the astronauts back, versus 1/6th gravity environment is easily dicernable if you know what to look for. In a 1/6th grav environment there is a slight pause at the height of his jump, where the kinetic energy going up comes to an end. Wires cannot simulate this, as the astronaut is being subjected to earths gravity and inconsistencies would be far more apparent had the landings been faked.
llTungstenII 1 year ago
Neither this or any of White's videos prove anything. This experiment could simply be wrong and not reflect how the hoax was done, if there was one.
axilmar 1 year ago
@axilmar That's a bogus argument. With the TONS of evidence showing that the ONLY plausible explanation is humans going to the moon, the burden of proof is on the hoaxtards.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Agreed. Unfortunately, this video is not part of this evidence.
axilmar 1 year ago
@axilmar It's not supposed to be. It's a rebuttal of someone else's claim, and as such, only has to relate to that. And it does. Jarrah's claim is dead and buried.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk The video only proves that Jarrah's claim that the two jumps are synchronized is wrong. It doesn't prove anything beyond that.
axilmar 1 year ago
@axilmar That's all I HAD to prove.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk But that is not enough to prove that we went to the moon.
axilmar 1 year ago
@axilmar No, that's what the TONS of other evidence--which you already AGREED exist--is for.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Agreed.
axilmar 1 year ago
The Mythbusters anti gravity test was flawed as inside the airplane it did NOT allow for ANY jumps. How convienient.
stewielips 1 year ago
@stewielips No, it was ONLY the plane where they couldn't do the jump (and if you know of an aircraft large enough to do it PLEASE post the model number).
shanedk 1 year ago
If we were to believe conspiracy theorists, many thousands of NASA employees, independent scientist/physicists, the news media and countries from all over the world, past and present, would have to be in on the conspiracy. This is what moon hoaxers do: They come up with a conspiracy, when that is debunked they call that part of the conspiracy. Because they have no evidence and grasp at straws, they are forced to build a conspiracy upon a conspiracy in order to sustain their silly lies.
Exofire 1 year ago
i would even pick a pedofile over shanedk
xismxist 1 year ago
@xismxist And if you could spell pedophile, your opinion might be worth something...
OuroborosChoked 1 year ago
@OuroborosChoked I was wondering what a "pedofile" was. I thought it was that little thing that folds out of a pair of toenail clippers...
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Ba-dum chssssh
OuroborosChoked 1 year ago
@xismxist If you're religious you may already have.
johnrainrules 1 year ago
/watch?v=a0tcSWHJppw
Bogosity, or right on?
Surhotchaperchlorome 1 year ago
@Surhotchaperchlorome Bogosity. First of all, he's clearly lying with the 0cm thing; you can clearly tell (especially by looking at Young's right foot) that he is off the ground some ways.
Second, there is no such thing as "Frame 1:09." There are 30 frames in each second of video, including that one.
Third, notice how he didn't show you the frame immediately before that one?
He's a lying coward.
shanedk 1 year ago
the film was slowed and anyone can jump that high. he should have went up over 6 feet on the moon
EGMAG 1 year ago
@EGMAG Anyone can jump knee-height? Okay, YOU try it, video it, and upload it to YouTube. Let's see it! I'm not even going to ask you to do it with a 69kg backpack on.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
At least your not being nasty again. Thank you for that. Let's see. The astronauts admirably were trained to be in excellent shape at the time. It is probable if faked the back packs were empty air filled boxes assuming if it is fake. Now for most athletic healthy people it is very easy to make jumps past knee height with or without wire lifts. So without harsh rash judgments you can believe it.
EGMAG 1 year ago
@EGMAG It's hard for BASKETBALL PLAYERS to jump knee-height! Geez...
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk hard to jump
Ha ha very funny
EGMAG 1 year ago
@EGMAG Then find the person you know who can jump the highest, film him jumping EXACTLY the same way as Young does (even without a 60kg pack), measure it and see if he makes it anywhere NEAR knee-height.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
ok
EGMAG 1 year ago
@EGMAG If you look closely at the PLSS on the jump salute, it moves decidedly NOT as an empty box! It has significant inertia going up and down. The jump is relative to Moon gravity, and is only close to Earth gravity when it is sped up by the difference in the ballistic motion of 2.45 (search moonhoax math madness). Wires? Impossible.
TrueGroup 1 year ago
@TrueGroup decidedly NOT as an empty box <
I agree cause it is full of astro0 bullshit
EGMAG 1 year ago
@EGMAG Ok, agreed. It isn't an empty box and clearly has significant mass. Unfortunately you have no explanation for it, so resort to your dumbo comments. I can't wait for your follow up witticism.
TrueGroup 1 year ago
@TrueGroup
faked
EGMAG 1 year ago
@EGMAG There's no chance that the backpacks were empty boxes. The astronauts couldn't possibly move the way they did if there wasn't a LOT of mass in them. You can tell by where their center of mass is (notice how they're having lean forward all the time). A man with an empty box on his back can't move around like that bent forward that way.
evensgrey 1 year ago
@evensgrey
Oh well
EGMAG 1 year ago
I think all the moon hoax stuff is nonsense, but don't they think that the jump was done without a rig and then slowed down? The claims that I have seen say that he should go much higher if it was on the moon (I know the reasons that he didn't - such as weight of space suit and it being under pressure restricts the amount he could bend his knees). You should compare a jump without a rig on earth and then slow it down to the appropriate amount, it would probably look closer to the real thing.
AbuserTube 1 year ago
@AbuserTube They did that, too.
Hoaxers claim whatever's convenient for them at the time.
shanedk 1 year ago
You can actually look at the moon landing area through a powerful telescope... It's not like we can't see it...
LordBLB 1 year ago
@LordBLB No conventional ground-based telescope could possibly resolve details on the Lunar surface small enough to pick up anything left by the landings (since atmospheric effects limit effective aperture to about 10"). An adaptive-optics scope does better, but the angular size is too small for any that currently exist. One of the recent orbiters, however, was able to pick out the larger objects at the landing sites, like the descent stages.
evensgrey 1 year ago
@evensgrey "no conventional ground-based telescope"
That would be why I said "powerful ground-based telescope". Yes, we can observe the landing areas from Earth (I did NOT say it was crystal clear). But you CAN make out the landing areas, debris, stages, and even the tracks left by the moon vehicle they drove around. Couple that with the orbiter photos, and I can't see why people would say it never happened.
My whole point was this moon landing hoax crap is just silly and easy to dismiss.
LordBLB 1 year ago
It's still rational to assume that maybe the weight used was slightly different. Mythbusters should have done both together, if they had done they wouldn't have "busted" it.
sssmokin101 1 year ago
People seem to forget that we were in a space race. Russia would NOT allow the U.S to fake a moon landing, do you really think Russia would be ok with the U.S getting all the credit for a faked landing? If so, considering a faked landing wouldnt be difficult, especially in todays standards, then why didnt Russia fake their own or why dont we fake more today? Simply because it was never faked, We went to the moon, whats so hard to believe?
Warlordx91 1 year ago
Spreading the crap - if you had brains you could be dangerous - thankfully you have only enough sense to know not to eat yourself
spacehopperballs 1 year ago
This is total BS and proofs nothing...
ballermd0 1 year ago
@ballermd0
Since you cant be specific about why it "proofs" nothing, the fail is yours.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
@ballermd0 I have yet to see a hoaxer post a genuine video of a claim being put to the test, not one!!! If anything is total BS its the desperate hoaxer claims
nosajj12345 1 year ago
@nosajj12345 then obviously you either live in a cave or perhaps on THE MOON because there are plenty of valid videos that prove the moon landings were hoaxed, including one where the astronauts were caught faking video of a far off return to Earth while still in low Earth orbit. Explain that hotshot. But even with proof like this you're so brainwashed you'll never believe the truth even though it sits right in front of you.
ballermd0 1 year ago
@ballermd0 That's a Bart Sibrel LIE. He took a publicly-available video of the astronauts ON EARTH, TRAINING for the mission, and PRETENDED it was them faking it in low orbit.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
Sounds like the 9/11 truthers, huh?
Surhotchaperchlorome 1 year ago
@shanedk right... and exactly how could he have done that so perfectly as an amateur filmmaker? Plus the scientific community as a whole does not really know if man can survive a trip outside the Van Allen belt even with today's tech, yet NASA and the government want us to believe man could do it back in the 60's?
ballermd0 1 year ago
@ballermd0 "exactly how could he have done that so perfectly as an amateur filmmaker?"
How could who have done what? Sibrel? All he did was get the footage from NASA and then lie about it.
"does not really know if man can survive a trip outside the Van Allen belt"
LAUGHABLY untrue.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk it's one thing to get NASA footage and lie about it, but totally another to alter it with such precision as you claim he did. Secondly, if Sibrel did manage to pull it off, then a simple way to prove it is to provide the original unaltered NASA training footage and that will settle the matter once and for all. I have yet to see such footage from the hoax debunkers like yourself.
ballermd0 1 year ago
@ballermd0 He DIDN'T alter it. He showed it as-is AND LIED ABOUT IT.
LOTS of people have the original NASA footage. SIBREL IS A LIAR. DEAL with it.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk as for man traveling outside the Van Allen belt being laughable. I guess if that's the best response you could come up with, well that says a lot. Tell me why the only (supposed) manned missions outside lower Earth orbit only been Apollo missions? Why hasn't NASA or any other country gone back since then, or even in middle orbit? Because it's a hoax. And since it is one of the greatest ones in history, don't you think the gov. would put in place its own hoax busters at no cost? hmm
ballermd0 1 year ago
@ballermd0 "Why hasn't NASA or any other country gone back since then"
We haven't been back because its expensive. Don't you know your history. Lack of public interest, politics, and money. No hoax, no conspiracies. Try thinking critically for a change. And what is your evidence (not conjecture) but hard evidence that all six missions were faked??
nosajj12345 1 year ago
@ballermd0 "Why hasn't NASA or any other country gone back since then"
Simple: too much cost, not enough benefit.
shanedk 1 year ago
@ballermd0 You know the ISS is located IN the Van Allen belt. There are people LIVING in it as we speak. Take that and stick it as far up your ass as you can get it, you gimp.
Adkit2 1 year ago
@Adkit2 i love it when arrogant, rude people can be proven dead wrong. The ISS is located in low earth orbit, at a very safe distance of only 211 miles above the earth. Except near the poles, the Van Allen Belt generally doesn't start until middle earth orbit, at about 1,240 miles out. Do your research before you try to call someone out and insult them.
ballermd0 1 year ago
@ballermd0 Allow me to correct myself:
i love it when arrogant, rude people can be proven dead wrong. The ISS is located in low earth orbit, at a very safe distance of only 211 miles above the earth. Except near the poles, the Van Allen Belt generally doesn't start until middle earth orbit, at about 1,240 miles out. Do your research before you try to call someone out and insult them. And thus the ISS pass THROUGH the low end of the Van Allen belt all the time. The "South Atlantic Anomaly".I win
Adkit2 1 year ago
@Adkit2 yes it does periodically pass through the South Atlantic Anomaly, but in your initial response you made it seem as though they are constantly living "IN" the belt when they are not. Plus the ISS requires extra shielding in order to pass through the belt, shielding that the "supposed" Apollo missions spacecrafts did not, and could not have. Lending greater credibility to the fact that the Apollo program was staged. Thank you.
ballermd0 1 year ago
@ballermd0 The Apollo mission went through the belt twice... the ISS goes through the belt over and over. Your theory is completely void. The radiation you'd get from living on the ISS is no more than the radiation you'd get from living in an airplane. Granted people don't LIVE in airplanes but you see, my point still stands: the Van Allen belt is not that dangerous! In fact radiation is a percentage RISK of cancer or radiation poisoning, it's not a live or die kind of danger at all.
Adkit2 1 year ago
@ballermd0 That was debunked long ago. LOL
nosajj12345 1 year ago
@ballermd0
Show me the video, and MAYBE people would beleive you, also, that video COULD have been made in 2010, and not during the moon landing.
iceyflames7 1 year ago
@iceyflames7 search for Banned in America: Proof of Fake Moonlanding. Truth comes near end but watch the whole thing. Other videos show the truth as well but i picked this 1 because it shows a 1994 Armstrong speech where you can just see the guilt he has 4 being part of this great hoax that changed history forever. He says, "breakthroughs available to those who can remove ONE OF truth's protective layers. Notice the use of "one of" in speech. Means he's talkin bout a single event. HIS!
ballermd0 1 year ago
@ballermd0
1. If you had a camera up in space with no oxygen, it wouldn’t function, so they had to make there own cameras to go up onto the Moon and film it.
2. It didn’t take so long because the space ship was traveling 58,000km/hr
And the distance between the moon and Earth is 384403 Km Do the math.
3.The rest of the film is a just some whiney girl saying “they were trying to make the effect that they left the Earth and blah, blah, blah.”
iceyflames7 1 year ago
With all the stupid struff floating around where the Government is tring to convence everybody that God is Dead, We are all going to hell in a hand basket, and Obama and the Government is there to save us ! I think the people is not buying it but just sitting back and waiting for them to make their move and you will see all hell break loose ? Obama is the only one getting upset for the people are just taking it with a smile and is going to get him when the election time comes !
turtle4aire 1 year ago
Spread the crap - You are the moist boring twat on Youtube
You stick to boring people to death with all your crap about being smart etc
and I will stick to knowing Apollo was bollocks.
spacehopperballs 1 year ago
@spacehopperballs
And I can call you the most ignorant man on youtube. ;)
The thing about calling myself smart and educated, and calling you as dumb as a horse turd, BOTH are easily provable.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
This crap is intended to get people to switch off....
As if the moon hoax is some never ending technical argument.
The Apollo missions are becoming more and more absurd as time goes by - if you thinks this crap is relevant its time to take a step back and look at the woods.
The hoax is a lot more fundamental that wires and crap like this clip.
Research it properly and free your mind. Look were you should and not were others lead you.
Good luck.
spacehopperballs 1 year ago
@spacehopperballs
"Free your mind" Corny cliches are no match for a proper scientific education.
Perhaps the primary reason we believe NASA over the Hoax idiots, is that NASA actually passed the 8th grade. THEY dont have to be continually corrected on elementary points of science.
If your "hoax" was so damned obvious, we wouldnt have to keep reminding you of all the physics and astronomy you ignore, screw-up, and prove your continual ignorance in.
SpreadingtheMuse 1 year ago
Does anyone know the details of the wire rig that Adam used? Did it use springs? Counterweights? Hydraulics? One would have to be careful in the design no matter how it worked. Ideally it should put a continuous upward force on his body equal to 5/6 of his weight regardless of his position and velocity. Springs might exert a force that varied with position, while weights would introduce more inertia. (more)
ApolloWasReal 1 year ago
And there's nothing to be done about the restoring torque that the cable applies to his body when he rolls or pitches away from the vertical. I think that's the main reason a cable rig can't produce a convincing 1/6g.
Another is that the cable only acts at one point behind his neck; it can't simulate the effect of lower gravity on his limbs, his backpack, or even the straps hanging down from it.
ApolloWasReal 1 year ago
@ApolloWasReal It was counterweighted.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Very interesting - how did you find that out? Was it described on their website?
I wonder about the artifacts produced by counterweighting. For one thing, they introduced extra inertial mass to the system; they may have applied a constant static force to Adam, but the dynamic force could be very different. Imagine what happens when he jumps up faster than the acceleration of gravity; the support line would go slack because the weights haven't fallen yet.
ApolloWasReal 1 year ago
@ApolloWasReal It was shown in the episode.
I showed one artifact in the video: as the counterweight descends, it has less of an effect, hence the discrepancy.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk I watched the episode closely, but I don't remember seeing any counterweights, or hearing them mentioned. They simply said that it had been custom designed for them by Trapeeze World, but that was about it.
ApolloWasReal 1 year ago
It's simple gravitational physics as demonstrated by Galileo. Two similar objects will fall at the same rate, no matter their weight (though the heavier will fall with more force, ie- both will hit you in the head at the same time, but the heavier one will smack you harder).
DistendedPerinium 1 year ago
hoaxtard? bunktard.
DUB8leA 1 year ago
How do you know they jumped with equal force? Maybe one of the men used his legs more to propell higher, that's all i'm saying, i'm not a "hoaxtard" (lol) just offering my view and looking at this from different angles.
DUB8leA 1 year ago
@DUB8leA It doesn't matter. They'd still follow the same curve; the only difference would be the magnitude of the curve, not the shape. It should still be a near-perfect parabola, and Adam's isn't.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Ehhh i ignore you. There is proof that you are a liar and nasa puppet!!
xbox360ost 1 year ago
you have taken force out of the equation, how can you be sure enough that the force in the initial jump is the same between these two men? Are they the same weight? You're forgetting key variables in your conclusion. Nice attempt. It's becoming more and more like a religion this malarky.
DUB8leA 1 year ago
@DUB8leA Yes, Adam was counter-weighted to equalize the difference. NO variables were left out; you hoaxtards just suck at physics.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
Or the fact that the rate at which they fall is not changed by the person's weight.
Basic Physics Fail.
Surhotchaperchlorome 1 year ago
@Surhotchaperchlorome Well, the purpose of the counter-weight was to account for the differences between Earth and lunar gravity. Objects (regardless of mass) fall at a different rate on the moon than they do the Earth, and since Adam's jump took place on Earth, and Young's jump ABSOLUTELY TOOK PLACE ON THE MOON, that was what they had to equalize.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk
Meaning they would have to counter his weight with 5/6 of Adam's weight giving him a "weight" of 1/6th of Earth weight (with same mass, obviously), making it so he'd have the same acceleration due to gravity as if he was on the moon.
So I got ya'.
Surhotchaperchlorome 1 year ago
@Surhotchaperchlorome Right. Saying he has to match Young's weight (as a lot of the hoaxtards say) is just ridiculous, because they'd affect the acceleration.
shanedk 1 year ago
Nice video but like Darkxairyu said I can't help to notice the "who jumped higher variable"
k4rnavor 1 year ago
forgive me for my ignorance, but what's your conclusion? what does this video try to prove?
white000bear 1 year ago
@white000bear That Jarrah's point is completely wrong.
shanedk 1 year ago
It's amazing how retarded conspiracy theorists can be. It truly, completely boggles the mind. I'd like to see some in-depth psychological studies to explain them
Monstermarkus 1 year ago
nice comparison, but I noticed a variable that wasn't taken into consideration, Adam didn't jump as high as Young did, making him first to touch the ground, and as for the hang time goes, try tossing a tennis ball into the air at a different hight each time, record it with a camera, and watch the difference in hang time, I'm sure you will see a difference, also other things that effect hangtime, mass and weight, check it out
Darkxairyu 1 year ago
@Darkxairyu I was examining Jarrah's claim, so that's Jarrah's mistake, not mine.
As for your tennis ball, it will ALWAYS have the same curve, even if the timing is different. That's what I'm trying to show here: Adam's curve doesn't follow the normal gravitational parabola because of the changing effects of the counterweight.
Mass and weight have NOTHING to do with it. Objects fall at the same rate regardless.
shanedk 1 year ago
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xeppo 1 year ago
@xeppo Lower gravity ABSOLUTELY changes the speed! That's what it MEANS!
Geez, why are hoaxtards such idiots? (Oh, right--if they weren't such idiots, they wouldn't be hoaxtards...)
shanedk 1 year ago
That mythbuster man sayed he was NEARLY the same weight as the moon guy, but mythbuster man had little bit more weight , so he lands on the ground first, go make a test or something u see. And yeah sorry for my gramma. But i hope u understand what i write here.
xbox360ost 1 year ago
@xbox360ost Uh, no. Objects subject to the same acceleration fall at the same rate REGARDLESS of weight. What is it about the last 400 years of physics that confuses you hoaxtards?
shanedk 1 year ago
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xeppo 1 year ago
@xeppo No, you don't. Objects fall at the same rate regardless of mass. Galileo proved than LONG ago.
shanedk 1 year ago
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xeppo 1 year ago