@effoffho then clearly you must've been watching the Weather Channel. look up videos of Ramon Dekkers, Buakaw Por Pramuk, Quentin Chong... Then tell me if you still think the same..
Boxing for hard and fast punches, Tae Kwon Do for hard and fast kicks, Muay Thai for countering and close combat, then Hap Ki Do against numbers and grappling.
@Datleco No, it's boxing for hard and fast punches, TKD for little pussy slappy kicks, Muay Thai for hard, powerful kicks, knees, and elbows, and Hap Ki Do for looking like a fucking retard.
@ThePrototype20x6 Hap Ki Do is like Judo by using their balance and weight against them but also to keep yourself relatively safe when taken down. If you take the traditional martial arts instead of the americanized versions we have these days, you won't think negatively of the arts.
i haves one question what the fuck kinda karate u been watching man this is french savate im sure its bloody good but screw u french vietcong beat ur ass go vietcong and thais and khmers and loachians
@j26496 thanks man.. look at what this guy "electronikita" wrote to me:"Looks nothing like savate. Source or STFU noob" . haha funny that he calls me a noob and he can't differ karate from savate.
@electronikita It most likely Savate, just check any videos and compare the stances. Even if its not Savate, thats just can´t be Karate, that stance doesn´t match none of the recognized Karate styles.
@electronikita Yeah, thats true. It COULD be Kenpo (btw, which style?) but...where is your source? I say that is Savate because of the battle stance and now that I watch carefully, the outfit looks quite similar to practitioners of Savate. The truth is that there is no way to get a direct source, We can only SPECULATE. Asking for a source is silly. You have the name of the fighters? The day of the fight? Where it was held? When you got these, please let me know to research more.
My point being in this discussion. NO STYLE is rated number one. All have flaws I have seen a decent ranked kyokushin karate student, which is basic karate, take on and beat an equally powerful muay thai fighter. If you want to be a "NUMBER ONE FIGHTER" you can't just learn one style. All have flaws like I said. To assume you are going to win just because you know Muay Thai peon or master, is foolishly ignorant and im done and remember. Knowledge is power.
Muay Thai is basically well there is a guy in front of me. Im gona beat the shit out of him. Muay Thai is not number one. I took them all. Karate, Muay Thai, Jujuitsu. If a Muay Thai fighter came you could just use his own power against him and he is on the ground and in a choke hold faster than you can say poopdick. Every style has its own weakness and yes it does matter about the styles you know.
Everyone is a master of their own art. I d c if you are a muay thai fighter or not. If you bout with someone who has devoted into their art you're going to get beat. Muay Thai is powerful sure, but Karate, especially the Shiorin-Ryu style, takes alot of disipline along with power and grace. It really all depends on you're art, but more than likely a true master of karate will beat a Muay Thai brawler anyday.
@Cody5973 Hmmm. "A true master of Karate will beat a Muay Thai brawler anyday". Well well, I wouldn't be too sure of that at all, MUPPET! .. To even form such an assumption is to be foolishly ignorant. Both arts go back a very long time to their most traditional form of course. I'm assuming you have no knowledge of old-school Muay Thai.
@CrazyKamsaLeftNipple Muay Thai a desendent of Muay Boran, which was lethwei and tomoi combined styles of early fighting principles developed in Cambodia and different parts of Asia and India. Focus mainly on the principles of striking. Our expression was hit hard and hit fast. It started around the early 1700s first they were trying to teach a style to their armies, but was adopted locally. I know alot about old school Muay Thai.
Enough with this bullshit, small dick, concept: "it's not the size of the boat, but the motion in the ocean."
Muay thai is the best. REAL muay thai fighters, who stick closely to the style of muay boran, (not that joe shmo mae mae muay thai shit) will wreck your dumb "tsung su do," "taek won do" or whatever stupid "do" you may bring. Take your black belts to thailand and you'll see that they are just to hold your gi up. Real skill comes from experience. Forms for 3 years < 200 REAL fights..
@xxxdieselyyy It's funny that you ask that. There is a story of a farmer Nai Khanomtom during the 1700's. He was a thai boxer selected to fight against burmese champions (Who used lethwei, of course) during the burmese invasion of thailand to see how they compared. He defeated 9 champions in a row. Muay thai is the best because of it's simplicity. Hit hard, hit fast, and make every strike hit on the button. A round house is mean't to break you whether you block it or not. That's the power of MT
@dilster5 You're entitled to your opinion, but ask any martial arts master and he/she will tell you that there is no best art. The best thing to do is learn as many arts as possible (Bruce Lee for ex.) Do you consider yourself a real martial artist? I don't, its clear you don't have a respect for other arts. A TKD, Karate or guy can beat a Muay Thai guy, and vice versa. Its clear you're blindly biased. You're right real skill comes from experience - which can be attained FROM ANY MARTIAL ART.
@charles125 I may be a lot of things, but I am not "blindly" bias. Yes I am bias, but that comes from experience and validation. Why don't you see karate guys in K1? Because just as Jiu Jitsu beat everybody in MMA, Muay Thai beat every one in K1. Buakaw Por Pramuk is the greatest example. You don't know Muay Thai until you've studied in Thailand; fighting is part of the testing process for rank, part of why the art is so deadly. After recieving a black in TKD and karate i can say they are a joke
@dilster5 Hmm I see, well me personally prefer to mix TKD kicks in with Muay Thai. I'm a big fan of their kicks. But I prefer the mindset and fighting approach of MT.
@charles125 TKD kicks have too much snap in the knee and not enough hip, no power in the round house, very open for sweeps, drop guard too often, waste energy bouncing around, etc. TKD definately a joke in the combat world. TKD was also my first black belt.. and I was 11! Karate is better, but still has a horrible stance and easy to read strikes; bad set ups and open face. My 3 week students beat tkd black belts all day. We even have fun at TKD tournaments, their rules, and we win. Its a JOKE.
@dilster5 Yes but with TKD kicks they require less of a wind-up do they not? I agree with the unnecessary bouncing around, and the extremely risky kicks. I personally don't fight like hat, too flashy and not enough effectiveness I feel. And yeah I read an article today on msn that some girl who is six has a blackbelt? :s How the hell does anyone think a that should be allowed?
However don't you believe your training in TKD has been beneficial? Given that you implement it properly?
@charles125 I believe that my TKD training has been counter-productive, actually. The only aspect I appreciate is the familiarity with combat itself. MT kicks actually require less wind up, in my opinion, because there really is no wind up. It's a straight extension and fold of the hips. The only reason TKD kicks are faster is because you snap the kick, not cut through, which greatly reduces power and makes the angle of impact shit. Just stick to MT for your striking, but find THE RIGHT KRU!!
@charles125 No you're wrong, Muay Thai is the most optimal striking art, while Jiu-Jitsu is the best grappling art. Hands down, those 2 arts smash the others almost every time. Bruce Lee was the 1st martial artist to incorporate different arts into 1. I do not disrespect any art form but it is a fact that these 2 arts are the best. That explains why in Vale Tudo competitions where anything goes, most champions are great in Muay T/ BJJ or both.
@np494609 I think I'm slowly starting to see that now lol But would you agree with me if I said that learning elements from as many arts possible is greatly beneficial?
@charles125 Yes I would. Most of the guys at my school (Team Lloyd Irvin) have a background in some other combat sport or martial art like wrestling or boxing. That is what makes Jiu-Jitsu so great, it incorporates Judo/wrestling/ and even Sambo.
@np494609 :/ Oh really. Another know it all. Do you even know where the styles you refer to originate? Do a a little digging into history before you start talking to people like you know what you're talking about.
@usnavyaz Combat Sambo- Russian Military forces Judo-Japan American Wrestling- 12th and 13th century BC (Rome) Yes you may shut the fuck up now and go take some orders...Sir yes sir! LOL
Muay Thai and Bjj seems to be a good combo, throw some wrestling in for sprawls, and some judo in for throws, for people saying throws are usueless, just use 2 legged take down, look at Karo Parisyan for how beautiful and effective judo can be for take downs. A good throw such as Spring Hip Throw done well on cement can end a real fight quickly.
@kiowaloveflute Judo is showing its effectiveness in MMA more high level Judoka are starting to enter MMA Rick Hawn in Bellator for example and if you watch Bellator quite few MMA fighters have a Judo back ground not all on the Olympic level but still a back ground in Judo and some use it to their advantage and knowing Judo is a advantage because its not used that much in MMA so fighters are takig a second look at Judo
one of the reasons i love muay thai is the low kick it changes every thing . muay thai fighter's concentrate on the shin low kick cuz u cant stand when ur hip is damaged and it will effect on you cuz ull be thinking of the next low kick thats going to hit you and that will make you lose...
ARtists of kenpo are taught various striking techniques with their hands. So if you take the gloves off, it may be better for the karate person. But, I agree with the other posts, it depends on the fighter and not all on the art.
all u guys sayin muay thai is better...its not true... effectivness off martial arts depends on the artist him/herself so u really cant say which martial art is better...
I dare you to go tell that to anyone in Kyokushin karate, or Seidokaikan karate. or how about tell that to George St. Pierre, or Lyoto Machida, or shemmy schilt.
hell, tell that to the people Karate has beat
BJ penn, Rich Franklin, Rashad evens, Jérôme Le Banner, Thiago Alves, Sean Sherk, Matt Hughes, Dan Hardy, Michael McDonald, or Thiago Silva.
@shoulung ok dude with regards to gsp yes he has a black belt in karate. does he incorperate that into his fighting style? yeeeeeeah kindof. did he use it to beat matt hughes? fuck off he didn't. sure he used some spinning back kicks but that didn't win him the fight. his wrestling kickboxing, bjj and general mma training win him his fights.
maybe if he was training his bjj instead of karate he wouldn't have gotten subbed against hughes in the first place
True GSP lost once by sub, then later won by sub. But he also scored a TKO on hugues a head kick followed by punches, defiantly karate domain
But if GSP didn't do karate, why does he always identify himself as a karateka. Or why does he always wear a KARATE GI to the ring?
How come people always think that if someone is striking they are using boxing or kickboxing? True he does BJJ, but he wouldn't be the fighter he is if it wasn't for his 3rd degree black belt in Kyokushin Karate
@shoulung oh yeah cause punching and elbowing a downed opponant in the head is a patented kyokushin karate technique......wait..... isn't that the sport how you don't punch or elbow the other guy in the head?
how much karate did you see gsp use against dan hardy?
He is a wrestler, but a lot of his stand up skills are based in Karate. why does he wear a karate GI and say that he is proud to study Kyokushin if all he studies is kickboxing, wrestling, and BJJ.
but this isn't even the point. Karate is a good art if trained properly. it isn't for fat kids trying to build confidence. it is a good art that gives effective knock out power. its not the end all art, it has weaknesses. that is why you also study BJJ.
@prebirth91 Now I don't know the rules of kyokushin karate, but in traditional karate that is allowed, traditional karate has actually less rules than the UFC has in what is and isn't allowed, as close to anything (mostly standup but also some groundwork)- anything standup imaginable(technique's, takedowns etc) is findable in the kata's.
@nandansho oh i'm sorry i thought it was time to start spouting random non related shit after reading your comment. if you were trying to say something else please explain
could anyone help im trying to mix muay thai with any fighting i can find...... like karate,judo,combat judo, jiu jutsu, brazillian jiu jutsu, capoiera, Taekwando, aikido, ........which the best to mix with muay thai...... I cant mix them all!!!!!!
fact of the matter is, karate teaches an incorrect stance (you guard low) and many ineffective techniques.. also you can get a black belt in about only 4 years around here. however, there are exceptions.. take lyoto machida for example. also karate is very fun, sometimes traditional, and teaches great discipline.
@xboxfreakie Yeah, i did both for a couple years and liked both.
I think that muay thai is more pure though. I´m thinking of taking up mma when the time permits it. For the groundfighting. I kinda missed that in MT-
@thebluemeaner not true Mauy Thai has proven it self in the UFC mixed with other martial arts making it more powerful but the UFC does not have the striking level of K-1 where Karate, kickboxing, TKD, KUNG FU and Muay Thai fighters are on a higher level in the striking game!
The karate guy took some pretty hard hits very well! Great fight displaying some of the strengths and weaknesses of both styles in my opinion. Remember JKD philosophy. No one style is superior.
In such a case as this I have to say that the Muay Thai boxer is the better here he is more precise in his strikes and blocks, the Karate guy didnt really do too much karate it seemed just random punching and kicking with no style attached to it making it look more freestyle than anything else.
well jujitsu and judo are the best known martial art in the planet jujitsu beats every martial are there is but jujitsu is weak if fighting with some one how knows judo.
@113qazz No they aren't. Best known is like boxing, kick boxing, judo, karate. Muay thai as well is you really watch fighting. They are both weak against each other, plus if its two on one they are just both weak.
@D1spunk yes but the styles were made 2 be efective, some are more realistics than other, have diferent purposes, ....... but like u sayed it all depends on the person who uses those styles
it kinda annoys me that the karate guy has gloves on cause they need open hands (i kno it effects to muay thai guy too but not as much) BUT tbh i HATE karate because it focuses way to much on technique rather than effectiveness, Eg- the karate guy in this fight landed hits in the fight but there wasnt one that was powerful or would effect the opponent
Karate's focused more on elbows and knees during the later half of the 1900s, because of contact and competition with Muay Thai. since then more styles have emerged that are better than the previous koryu styles, like Shidokan and Daido Juku, or even the early Kyokushin kai that are/were open to many different styles and techniques, unlike most Koryu styles that nowadays are closed minded in their teachings, only competing under their rules that protect them from, superior techniques of others.
@TAC412 That is grossly wrong: read up on your martial arts buddy =P. From their country of origin, conception, philosophies, applications and techniques, they are completely different (btw, Yes, I have done both, yes, I do know the difference)
Go learn, every art, take the best thing out of all the arts, then u have urself a *best art* in the world.
Like, a pistol, sub machine gun, a shotgun, a sniper, and a RPG.
U be a fucking idiot to say either one of those are the BEST WEAPON out of them, because u cant use a sniper if the guy is 50cm from u, u cant use a shotgun 200m away, u cant use a rpg anywhere near u, but if u combine the goodness of them all, u have an ultimate weapon.
@yoshinagax thx someone cathching it but it fun to compare the style and to see if we can mix only a little number of art to own indeed of all that why we compare i think
@D1spunk While i do agree with you to an extent, if you was to put the same person of their best capabilities, muay thai would come out on top MOST of the time, I can't see or imagen a much burtual hardcore style to go agasint, they live for extreame, karate is about self defence etc etc ..
To whoever said that Muay Thai is only used for Attacking, or said that Muay Thai is an offensive Martial Art is DEAD WRONG.
Muay Thai and Muay Boran or Ancient Muay Thai is used to protect people's lives, infact all of the now well-known Martial Arts are formed to protect people.
Martial Arts is used to protect lives, if used in personal gain it's just violence, but if protecting one's lives even assassination technique's are counted in as TRUE MARTIAL ARTS.
I'm afraid I must disagree. You see, Martial Arts is a weapon; much like a sharpened blade. Ultimately it comes down to the person using the Martial Arts to decide what he uses his ability to accomplish, and it must be that individual to accept the consequences of his actions, be they good or bad. Very similar to the saying "guns don't kill people; people kill people".
I would say that Martial Arts CAN BE used to protect lives, but we all know that Martial Arts can be used to kill.
What I'm trying to say is Martial Arts is designed to protect people.
Ironically, Martial Artist always finds a way to finish the opponent as efficient and quickly as possible.
Martial Arts is MADE and DEVELOPED to save and protect lives, if used only for personal gain it's just violence but if used to protect lives then even Assassination Technique's are acceptable in the Martial Arts World.
I wouldn't say ALL Martial Arts are designed to protect people. Each Martial Art was created with a specific purpose in mind. But like I said before, it's ultimately up to the user to decide what the best use of his ability is.
...By the way, did you, by any chance, read or watched World's Strongest Disciple Kenichi?
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SuperKhan788 2 months ago
both of them r suck!
Thanapat95 2 months ago
Did you record it with a potato?
gabrieloshiro 3 months ago
what pixel was the muay thai fighter
TheSethy10 3 months ago 4
Any martial arts with the word french in it can't be tops.
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DewClarke 3 months ago
did the rectangle or the square win
haterssuck26 3 months ago
did you shot this video with a calculator?
ImJustKiddingDude 4 months ago
@0.42 = crocodile kicks ^______^
NuttzLegalKuB 4 months ago
Poor
Ogre1982ify 4 months ago
@JEFFpoeirpi That kick not that hard
FenDerX1989 4 months ago
Muay Thai, Korean, they have no brains to be spoiled.
frong00HatYai 4 months ago
Stupid glove
MilkAnime 5 months ago
so which pixel is muay thai?
NotoriousTezzer 5 months ago
Ddi they record this with their phone from the 90s?
Sanimangas 5 months ago
muya thai owns that french fag
Lsjl88 6 months ago
@effoffho is just asshole guy :)
iamakkara 6 months ago
I'm trying not to hate, but I haven't seen anyone in muay Thai fight well
effoffho 7 months ago
@effoffho then clearly you must've been watching the Weather Channel. look up videos of Ramon Dekkers, Buakaw Por Pramuk, Quentin Chong... Then tell me if you still think the same..
shoksurf 7 months ago
@effoffho are you FUCKING me? every good mma fighter trains muay thai...asshole
germenfeo 6 months ago
prick didnt want to touch gloves
fromstart2finish 7 months ago
1:07: that throw was a epic fail
Trex068 7 months ago
next time use a calculator to record your videos
myvvm1 8 months ago
did you record this with a stone?
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@xnillerx nooooo havent you heard about the potatomatic 3000??
hafezzoom 10 hours ago
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maybe he should've shook his hand. lol!!!
Doza418 9 months ago
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Doza418 9 months ago
And the guy in white trunks is not doing real muay thai,he is doing kickboxing(too much jumping around)
araha22 9 months ago
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muay thai is the best!!!
TheR12ky 10 months ago
quality of video is less than 0
chupo0 10 months ago
Boxing for hard and fast punches, Tae Kwon Do for hard and fast kicks, Muay Thai for countering and close combat, then Hap Ki Do against numbers and grappling.
Datleco 11 months ago
@Datleco No, it's boxing for hard and fast punches, TKD for little pussy slappy kicks, Muay Thai for hard, powerful kicks, knees, and elbows, and Hap Ki Do for looking like a fucking retard.
ThePrototype20x6 9 months ago
@ThePrototype20x6 Hap Ki Do is like Judo by using their balance and weight against them but also to keep yourself relatively safe when taken down. If you take the traditional martial arts instead of the americanized versions we have these days, you won't think negatively of the arts.
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he got twatted off my mates dad
McRjAmEs101 11 months ago
he's shit he got twatted off my mates dad
McRjAmEs101 11 months ago
he's shit he got twatted off my mates dad
McRjAmEs101 11 months ago
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wannaknowit 11 months ago
i dont really know much about muay thai but isn't that guy bouncing a little too much for a muay thai fighter?
amdrew92 1 year ago
i haves one question what the fuck kinda karate u been watching man this is french savate im sure its bloody good but screw u french vietcong beat ur ass go vietcong and thais and khmers and loachians
MrAsianwhiteman 1 year ago
where's the HD ?
Lateninja 1 year ago
fighting is about delivering hits on your opponent, not wearing pajamas.
salex2500 1 year ago
что-то я не понял... а где тут каратэ?
nvkazmin 1 year ago
we form the u.s. we do parkour and marital arts so cheak out our vids and channal
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1StreetArtist 1 year ago
karate guy is very stupid
StirpeRomana 1 year ago
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Jcoynemartialarts 1 year ago
you son of a bitch you all looks like some little nigga
Guasid 1 year ago
This is not Karate. The guy in the pants is fighting French Savate not karate. Cool vid though :)
shoksurf 1 year ago 32
@shoksurf yea in truth finally someone ho knows what they talking about
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@j26496 thanks man.. look at what this guy "electronikita" wrote to me:"Looks nothing like savate. Source or STFU noob" . haha funny that he calls me a noob and he can't differ karate from savate.
shoksurf 1 year ago
@shoksurf Looks nothing like savate. Source or STFU noob
electronikita 1 year ago
@electronikita It most likely Savate, just check any videos and compare the stances. Even if its not Savate, thats just can´t be Karate, that stance doesn´t match none of the recognized Karate styles.
Kratos2492 1 year ago
@Kratos2492 SO you dont have a source and what you're saying you pretty much make up eh? Jumping like that looks to me more like kenpo BS then savate
electronikita 1 year ago
@electronikita Yeah, thats true. It COULD be Kenpo (btw, which style?) but...where is your source? I say that is Savate because of the battle stance and now that I watch carefully, the outfit looks quite similar to practitioners of Savate. The truth is that there is no way to get a direct source, We can only SPECULATE. Asking for a source is silly. You have the name of the fighters? The day of the fight? Where it was held? When you got these, please let me know to research more.
Kratos2492 1 year ago
@shoksurf Its freestye
stevebull29 1 year ago
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Jcoynemartialarts 1 year ago
well he's sure not using just karate in this fight, as @stevebull29 said. it looks more like freestyle.
shoksurf 1 year ago
@shoksurf I like that you can tell the type of fighting he does by watching a minute and a half video with literally 20x13 pixels.
TheIanMac42 8 months ago
@TheIanMac42 thanks man ahaha.. I like learning about diferent martial arts and fighting styles even within a martial art. but im no expert.
shoksurf 7 months ago
no sound effects, lol
marspars 1 year ago
tkd sucks. weak kicks that leave you open to counters all day... and too much emphasis on worthless point sparring.
thecamelsalesman 1 year ago
wow that guy isnt karate and this is copied wtf karate wheres there gi and a belt
ThatKidMTL23 1 year ago
@ThatKidMTL23 and you normally dont jump in karate^^
Matzegurke 1 year ago
i think the every fighting skills requires or needs a good fighter...
12ock 1 year ago
That is not muay thai for sure
Jimheegu 1 year ago
muay thai has more strength but karate is more deadly if these guys would fight to the death without ref the karate will win.
gregoryjjasadirana94 1 year ago
@gregoryjjasadirana94 how is that?
np494609 1 year ago
Tsk tsk. Yes it is. We had to take a test on it before the teacher would even teach us Muay Thai my friend. Plus I love to argue.
Cody5973 1 year ago
My point being in this discussion. NO STYLE is rated number one. All have flaws I have seen a decent ranked kyokushin karate student, which is basic karate, take on and beat an equally powerful muay thai fighter. If you want to be a "NUMBER ONE FIGHTER" you can't just learn one style. All have flaws like I said. To assume you are going to win just because you know Muay Thai peon or master, is foolishly ignorant and im done and remember. Knowledge is power.
Cody5973 1 year ago
Muay Thai is basically well there is a guy in front of me. Im gona beat the shit out of him. Muay Thai is not number one. I took them all. Karate, Muay Thai, Jujuitsu. If a Muay Thai fighter came you could just use his own power against him and he is on the ground and in a choke hold faster than you can say poopdick. Every style has its own weakness and yes it does matter about the styles you know.
Cody5973 1 year ago
muay thai is the superior fighting technique, but ofc, it depends on the person aswell
ante9224 1 year ago
Muaythai is number 1
teebecks 1 year ago
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it doesn't matter what style or art you mastered, ITS ALL ABOUT THE SKILLS.
Musclehead125 1 year ago
it doesn't matter what style or art you mastered ITS ALL ABOUT THE SKILLS.
Musclehead125 1 year ago
Everyone is a master of their own art. I d c if you are a muay thai fighter or not. If you bout with someone who has devoted into their art you're going to get beat. Muay Thai is powerful sure, but Karate, especially the Shiorin-Ryu style, takes alot of disipline along with power and grace. It really all depends on you're art, but more than likely a true master of karate will beat a Muay Thai brawler anyday.
Cody5973 1 year ago
@Cody5973 Hmmm. "A true master of Karate will beat a Muay Thai brawler anyday". Well well, I wouldn't be too sure of that at all, MUPPET! .. To even form such an assumption is to be foolishly ignorant. Both arts go back a very long time to their most traditional form of course. I'm assuming you have no knowledge of old-school Muay Thai.
CrazyKamsaLeftNipple 1 year ago
@CrazyKamsaLeftNipple Muay Thai a desendent of Muay Boran, which was lethwei and tomoi combined styles of early fighting principles developed in Cambodia and different parts of Asia and India. Focus mainly on the principles of striking. Our expression was hit hard and hit fast. It started around the early 1700s first they were trying to teach a style to their armies, but was adopted locally. I know alot about old school Muay Thai.
Cody5973 1 year ago
@Cody5973 Nice timing! .. And naw! By the looks of it, you had obviously copied some text from an online information source or similar.
CrazyKamsaLeftNipple 1 year ago
karate is a good foundation for muoy thai in my opinion, i feel doing karate has made me better at thai
nathaniel6677 1 year ago
that guy do not know how to fight muay thai thats a noob...
90hero99 1 year ago
Enough with this bullshit, small dick, concept: "it's not the size of the boat, but the motion in the ocean."
Muay thai is the best. REAL muay thai fighters, who stick closely to the style of muay boran, (not that joe shmo mae mae muay thai shit) will wreck your dumb "tsung su do," "taek won do" or whatever stupid "do" you may bring. Take your black belts to thailand and you'll see that they are just to hold your gi up. Real skill comes from experience. Forms for 3 years < 200 REAL fights..
dilster5 1 year ago
@dilster5 this guy know what hes talking about...muay boran will rape karate
ut07 1 year ago
@dilster5 ----------->gotta agree about the ferocity of Muay Thai.....hey just curious tho, how'd you rate Muay Thai against Lethwei?
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy It's funny that you ask that. There is a story of a farmer Nai Khanomtom during the 1700's. He was a thai boxer selected to fight against burmese champions (Who used lethwei, of course) during the burmese invasion of thailand to see how they compared. He defeated 9 champions in a row. Muay thai is the best because of it's simplicity. Hit hard, hit fast, and make every strike hit on the button. A round house is mean't to break you whether you block it or not. That's the power of MT
dilster5 1 year ago
@dilster5 You're entitled to your opinion, but ask any martial arts master and he/she will tell you that there is no best art. The best thing to do is learn as many arts as possible (Bruce Lee for ex.) Do you consider yourself a real martial artist? I don't, its clear you don't have a respect for other arts. A TKD, Karate or guy can beat a Muay Thai guy, and vice versa. Its clear you're blindly biased. You're right real skill comes from experience - which can be attained FROM ANY MARTIAL ART.
charles125 1 year ago
@charles125 I may be a lot of things, but I am not "blindly" bias. Yes I am bias, but that comes from experience and validation. Why don't you see karate guys in K1? Because just as Jiu Jitsu beat everybody in MMA, Muay Thai beat every one in K1. Buakaw Por Pramuk is the greatest example. You don't know Muay Thai until you've studied in Thailand; fighting is part of the testing process for rank, part of why the art is so deadly. After recieving a black in TKD and karate i can say they are a joke
dilster5 1 year ago
@dilster5 Hmm I see, well me personally prefer to mix TKD kicks in with Muay Thai. I'm a big fan of their kicks. But I prefer the mindset and fighting approach of MT.
charles125 1 year ago
@charles125 TKD kicks have too much snap in the knee and not enough hip, no power in the round house, very open for sweeps, drop guard too often, waste energy bouncing around, etc. TKD definately a joke in the combat world. TKD was also my first black belt.. and I was 11! Karate is better, but still has a horrible stance and easy to read strikes; bad set ups and open face. My 3 week students beat tkd black belts all day. We even have fun at TKD tournaments, their rules, and we win. Its a JOKE.
dilster5 1 year ago
@dilster5 Yes but with TKD kicks they require less of a wind-up do they not? I agree with the unnecessary bouncing around, and the extremely risky kicks. I personally don't fight like hat, too flashy and not enough effectiveness I feel. And yeah I read an article today on msn that some girl who is six has a blackbelt? :s How the hell does anyone think a that should be allowed?
However don't you believe your training in TKD has been beneficial? Given that you implement it properly?
charles125 1 year ago
@charles125 I believe that my TKD training has been counter-productive, actually. The only aspect I appreciate is the familiarity with combat itself. MT kicks actually require less wind up, in my opinion, because there really is no wind up. It's a straight extension and fold of the hips. The only reason TKD kicks are faster is because you snap the kick, not cut through, which greatly reduces power and makes the angle of impact shit. Just stick to MT for your striking, but find THE RIGHT KRU!!
dilster5 1 year ago
@dilster5 I don't consider TKD and Karate a "Joke" however.
charles125 1 year ago
@charles125 No you're wrong, Muay Thai is the most optimal striking art, while Jiu-Jitsu is the best grappling art. Hands down, those 2 arts smash the others almost every time. Bruce Lee was the 1st martial artist to incorporate different arts into 1. I do not disrespect any art form but it is a fact that these 2 arts are the best. That explains why in Vale Tudo competitions where anything goes, most champions are great in Muay T/ BJJ or both.
np494609 1 year ago
@np494609 I think I'm slowly starting to see that now lol But would you agree with me if I said that learning elements from as many arts possible is greatly beneficial?
charles125 1 year ago
@charles125 Yes I would. Most of the guys at my school (Team Lloyd Irvin) have a background in some other combat sport or martial art like wrestling or boxing. That is what makes Jiu-Jitsu so great, it incorporates Judo/wrestling/ and even Sambo.
np494609 1 year ago
@np494609 Hmm I see, thanks. I've always been a fan of tkd kicks. But nothing else like the stance, or the heavy reliance on kicks.
charles125 1 year ago
@np494609 i dont really know muay thai,but i will know if i learn it if its the strongest.i just dont the privilege to learn
khairuleven 1 year ago
@np494609 :/ Oh really. Another know it all. Do you even know where the styles you refer to originate? Do a a little digging into history before you start talking to people like you know what you're talking about.
usnavyaz 1 year ago
@usnavyaz Combat Sambo- Russian Military forces Judo-Japan American Wrestling- 12th and 13th century BC (Rome) Yes you may shut the fuck up now and go take some orders...Sir yes sir! LOL
np494609 1 year ago
amateur, but pretty good fight
michelraper 1 year ago
Muay Thai and Bjj seems to be a good combo, throw some wrestling in for sprawls, and some judo in for throws, for people saying throws are usueless, just use 2 legged take down, look at Karo Parisyan for how beautiful and effective judo can be for take downs. A good throw such as Spring Hip Throw done well on cement can end a real fight quickly.
kiowaloveflute 1 year ago 14
@kiowaloveflute Judo is showing its effectiveness in MMA more high level Judoka are starting to enter MMA Rick Hawn in Bellator for example and if you watch Bellator quite few MMA fighters have a Judo back ground not all on the Olympic level but still a back ground in Judo and some use it to their advantage and knowing Judo is a advantage because its not used that much in MMA so fighters are takig a second look at Judo
Judo brings things to the table not yet used.
glock70 10 months ago
@glock70 Plus throws look way cool.
farorin 9 months ago
@farorin True throws look good when executed correctly and throws do put you in the dominant position .
glock70 9 months ago
lol,karate got fucked off....duh
Emperor00id 1 year ago
one of the reasons i love muay thai is the low kick it changes every thing . muay thai fighter's concentrate on the shin low kick cuz u cant stand when ur hip is damaged and it will effect on you cuz ull be thinking of the next low kick thats going to hit you and that will make you lose...
moe2744 1 year ago
ARtists of kenpo are taught various striking techniques with their hands. So if you take the gloves off, it may be better for the karate person. But, I agree with the other posts, it depends on the fighter and not all on the art.
freespadersuggs 1 year ago
all u guys sayin muay thai is better...its not true... effectivness off martial arts depends on the artist him/herself so u really cant say which martial art is better...
heavenmonkey1 1 year ago
@heavenmonkey1 you can say that alllll you want but that karate guy was getting schooled
prebirth91 1 year ago
i prefer muay thai for my offensive game the striking seems more efficient and i use karate for more defensive capabilities
gamexmonkey 1 year ago
Karate is for fat kids trying to build confidence.
THROWDOWN619 1 year ago
@THROWDOWN619
I dare you to go tell that to anyone in Kyokushin karate, or Seidokaikan karate. or how about tell that to George St. Pierre, or Lyoto Machida, or shemmy schilt.
hell, tell that to the people Karate has beat
BJ penn, Rich Franklin, Rashad evens, Jérôme Le Banner, Thiago Alves, Sean Sherk, Matt Hughes, Dan Hardy, Michael McDonald, or Thiago Silva.
and that is a tiny list
shoulung 1 year ago
@shoulung ok dude with regards to gsp yes he has a black belt in karate. does he incorperate that into his fighting style? yeeeeeeah kindof. did he use it to beat matt hughes? fuck off he didn't. sure he used some spinning back kicks but that didn't win him the fight. his wrestling kickboxing, bjj and general mma training win him his fights.
maybe if he was training his bjj instead of karate he wouldn't have gotten subbed against hughes in the first place
prebirth91 1 year ago
@prebirth91
True GSP lost once by sub, then later won by sub. But he also scored a TKO on hugues a head kick followed by punches, defiantly karate domain
But if GSP didn't do karate, why does he always identify himself as a karateka. Or why does he always wear a KARATE GI to the ring?
How come people always think that if someone is striking they are using boxing or kickboxing? True he does BJJ, but he wouldn't be the fighter he is if it wasn't for his 3rd degree black belt in Kyokushin Karate
shoulung 1 year ago
@shoulung oh yeah cause punching and elbowing a downed opponant in the head is a patented kyokushin karate technique......wait..... isn't that the sport how you don't punch or elbow the other guy in the head?
how much karate did you see gsp use against dan hardy?
gsp is a wrestler.
prebirth91 1 year ago
@prebirth91
He is a wrestler, but a lot of his stand up skills are based in Karate. why does he wear a karate GI and say that he is proud to study Kyokushin if all he studies is kickboxing, wrestling, and BJJ.
but this isn't even the point. Karate is a good art if trained properly. it isn't for fat kids trying to build confidence. it is a good art that gives effective knock out power. its not the end all art, it has weaknesses. that is why you also study BJJ.
shoulung 1 year ago
@prebirth91 Now I don't know the rules of kyokushin karate, but in traditional karate that is allowed, traditional karate has actually less rules than the UFC has in what is and isn't allowed, as close to anything (mostly standup but also some groundwork)- anything standup imaginable(technique's, takedowns etc) is findable in the kata's.
Eterud 1 year ago
@prebirth91 Hey show me where Keith Hackney Blackbelt in Kenpo Karate used BJJ to drop Emmanuel Yarborough in UFC 3 in under 2 minutes?
nandansho 1 year ago
@nandansho why don't you show me your vagina?
i don't know what you're getting at, might have to explain
prebirth91 1 year ago
@prebirth91 Fucking shit fer Brains Troll go figure!
nandansho 1 year ago
@nandansho oh i'm sorry i thought it was time to start spouting random non related shit after reading your comment. if you were trying to say something else please explain
prebirth91 1 year ago
Wow ... Muay thai is the best
ossamasoft 1 year ago
why do people make fights like this about the art that they practice? it's between the people themselves not their trained style
TheAdrokk 1 year ago
fucking karate fails
XxsuperxX453 1 year ago
@XxsuperxX453 Wow ... Muay thai is the best ... what a low kick he hav
ossamasoft 1 year ago
could anyone help im trying to mix muay thai with any fighting i can find...... like karate,judo,combat judo, jiu jutsu, brazillian jiu jutsu, capoiera, Taekwando, aikido, ........which the best to mix with muay thai...... I cant mix them all!!!!!!
joshuakid5 1 year ago
@joshuakid5 i would suggest find a good gym to start training in MMA, but a good combo is Muay Thai and BJJ,
Godislove1able 1 year ago
@Godislove1able a better combo is boxing(or MT) and wrestling
prebirth91 1 year ago
muay thai rulez!
19simbad 1 year ago
fact of the matter is, karate teaches an incorrect stance (you guard low) and many ineffective techniques.. also you can get a black belt in about only 4 years around here. however, there are exceptions.. take lyoto machida for example. also karate is very fun, sometimes traditional, and teaches great discipline.
smokenfly514 1 year ago
@smokenfly514
State of this video number one, very poor coming from two trained practicioners
secondly not all karate dojos give belts in 4 years ALOT dojos in all styles do however & every martial art has bullshit techniques
tvrulesnation 1 year ago
i do karate, it's much stronger than you think, but this guy really sucks, but muay thai is great to, both are good
xboxfreakie 1 year ago
@xboxfreakie Yeah, i did both for a couple years and liked both.
I think that muay thai is more pure though. I´m thinking of taking up mma when the time permits it. For the groundfighting. I kinda missed that in MT-
martialme84 1 year ago
@D1spunk do you watch mma? if it was like you say, muay thai would not dominate the mixed martial arts world in striking...
thebluemeaner 1 year ago
@thebluemeaner not true Mauy Thai has proven it self in the UFC mixed with other martial arts making it more powerful but the UFC does not have the striking level of K-1 where Karate, kickboxing, TKD, KUNG FU and Muay Thai fighters are on a higher level in the striking game!
glock70 1 year ago
The karate guy took some pretty hard hits very well! Great fight displaying some of the strengths and weaknesses of both styles in my opinion. Remember JKD philosophy. No one style is superior.
zcxvasdfqwer1234 1 year ago
In such a case as this I have to say that the Muay Thai boxer is the better here he is more precise in his strikes and blocks, the Karate guy didnt really do too much karate it seemed just random punching and kicking with no style attached to it making it look more freestyle than anything else.
Coldshadow25 1 year ago
fighters, sad the quality of the video is nussian Muay Thai fighters in answer to this video
RaketaWatches 1 year ago
muay chai ya (which is a kind of muay thai) is the best in my opinion
sattakhim 1 year ago
@sattakhim No such thing as the best since it can easily be taken out with bjj, or judo. So it depends on how good a fighter is.
shukaku 1 year ago
@shukaku "in my opinion"
sattakhim 1 year ago
well jujitsu and judo are the best known martial art in the planet jujitsu beats every martial are there is but jujitsu is weak if fighting with some one how knows judo.
113qazz 1 year ago
@113qazz No they aren't. Best known is like boxing, kick boxing, judo, karate. Muay thai as well is you really watch fighting. They are both weak against each other, plus if its two on one they are just both weak.
shukaku 1 year ago
@D1spunk i agree but there are styles that are more practical than others ....
i2die4x 1 year ago
@D1spunk yes but the styles were made 2 be efective, some are more realistics than other, have diferent purposes, ....... but like u sayed it all depends on the person who uses those styles
MakeLadiesHappy 1 year ago
There is no "superior" style, just a superior opponent.
260191894 1 year ago 2
@D1spunk So true..
simmo19801 1 year ago
it kinda annoys me that the karate guy has gloves on cause they need open hands (i kno it effects to muay thai guy too but not as much) BUT tbh i HATE karate because it focuses way to much on technique rather than effectiveness, Eg- the karate guy in this fight landed hits in the fight but there wasnt one that was powerful or would effect the opponent
stinkbra 1 year ago
@D1spunk couldnt of put it better myself. If there was a better style, it would be obvious by now . . .
Ferguschch 1 year ago
the muay thai dude is doing better than the karate dude... he's just throwing random swings.. total karate FAIL
addicted2music21 1 year ago
After watching Machido vs Evans, I'm having second thoughts if i should talk shit about karate anymore lol
DeepFriedTwinkie69 1 year ago
this is a sport kara not a real and muay tay boy not is from tay
this sucks :)
Raakz00 1 year ago
Muay Thai and Karate are almost the same martial art but dinfferent naming lol
TAC412 1 year ago
@TAC412 wow...no. lol
DreadG91 1 year ago
@DreadG91 wow yes heheheh :P
TAC412 1 year ago
@TAC412 You see any elbows in Karate?
DreadG91 1 year ago
@DreadG91 Karate fighters also train in elbows. Actually, today, almost all martial arts teach elbow strikes.
TAC412 1 year ago
Karate's focused more on elbows and knees during the later half of the 1900s, because of contact and competition with Muay Thai. since then more styles have emerged that are better than the previous koryu styles, like Shidokan and Daido Juku, or even the early Kyokushin kai that are/were open to many different styles and techniques, unlike most Koryu styles that nowadays are closed minded in their teachings, only competing under their rules that protect them from, superior techniques of others.
MuayBoranWarrior 1 year ago
@TAC412 That is grossly wrong: read up on your martial arts buddy =P. From their country of origin, conception, philosophies, applications and techniques, they are completely different (btw, Yes, I have done both, yes, I do know the difference)
Defiant1901 1 year ago
f u people are so closed minded and ignorant.
Go learn, every art, take the best thing out of all the arts, then u have urself a *best art* in the world.
Like, a pistol, sub machine gun, a shotgun, a sniper, and a RPG.
U be a fucking idiot to say either one of those are the BEST WEAPON out of them, because u cant use a sniper if the guy is 50cm from u, u cant use a shotgun 200m away, u cant use a rpg anywhere near u, but if u combine the goodness of them all, u have an ultimate weapon.
yoshinagax 1 year ago
@yoshinagax thx someone cathching it but it fun to compare the style and to see if we can mix only a little number of art to own indeed of all that why we compare i think
GODZASSjc21 1 year ago
@D1spunk While i do agree with you to an extent, if you was to put the same person of their best capabilities, muay thai would come out on top MOST of the time, I can't see or imagen a much burtual hardcore style to go agasint, they live for extreame, karate is about self defence etc etc ..
sdtuu 1 year ago
ROckem sockem boppers?
jrjrjrjr83 1 year ago
To whoever said that Muay Thai is only used for Attacking, or said that Muay Thai is an offensive Martial Art is DEAD WRONG.
Muay Thai and Muay Boran or Ancient Muay Thai is used to protect people's lives, infact all of the now well-known Martial Arts are formed to protect people.
Martial Arts is used to protect lives, if used in personal gain it's just violence, but if protecting one's lives even assassination technique's are counted in as TRUE MARTIAL ARTS.
raymond2031 1 year ago
I'm afraid I must disagree. You see, Martial Arts is a weapon; much like a sharpened blade. Ultimately it comes down to the person using the Martial Arts to decide what he uses his ability to accomplish, and it must be that individual to accept the consequences of his actions, be they good or bad. Very similar to the saying "guns don't kill people; people kill people".
I would say that Martial Arts CAN BE used to protect lives, but we all know that Martial Arts can be used to kill.
TheTeaGreenAttorney 1 year ago
What I'm trying to say is Martial Arts is designed to protect people.
Ironically, Martial Artist always finds a way to finish the opponent as efficient and quickly as possible.
Martial Arts is MADE and DEVELOPED to save and protect lives, if used only for personal gain it's just violence but if used to protect lives then even Assassination Technique's are acceptable in the Martial Arts World.
raymond2031 1 year ago
I wouldn't say ALL Martial Arts are designed to protect people. Each Martial Art was created with a specific purpose in mind. But like I said before, it's ultimately up to the user to decide what the best use of his ability is.
...By the way, did you, by any chance, read or watched World's Strongest Disciple Kenichi?
TheTeaGreenAttorney 1 year ago
As far as I know they're all developed and/or made to protect people's lives, not end them.
And what's that?
raymond2031 1 year ago
Trash.
shadowtreader 1 year ago
Karateka is the green one ...
bane92 2 years ago
Classic match my balls
AuWoodStock 2 years ago
kung fu vs kick boxing
osmarchito 2 years ago