she speaks about suicide bombers like if it's understandable and legitimate...dumb bitch! that an act of the devil himself. hamas wants to established an iranian like regime in israel.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Your trash abut the speaker is meaningless, low level Zionists thug.
The criminal Dayan answered to your lies, before Hamas even existed, he said in 1956, 8 years after al-Nakba: "Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived."
@abumiz go ahead and give me another citation like if i give that much about one or two phrases. the arabs left that country in the "al nakba" mostly by their own will and by the will of the surrounding arabs. they waged a war of annihilation against us and luckily they've lost. they returned to their original states of syra, jordan, lebanon and egypt. they returned just to settle in the neighbours of jews who were made refugies by the arabs. 1 million jews were deported from the arab world .
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The Arab didn't force themselves on Russia and Moldavia, it is the other way around, stupid. Check out the names of your colonial settlers who seek their god promised land and say that "Palestine doesn't exist" and with their Russian accents!!
Your own apartheid archive debunks your lies about 1948. Israeli Myths & Propaganda: watch?v=sIWvcBzbqVc
Also check out Plan Dalet, to learn more about the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL I meant to say that people don't leave their towns and homes when thieves are waiting. Only stupid Zionists dare to say that the Arab native poor farmers left their homes because next door corrupt leaders said so! And only criminal Zionist thieves use these lies to block the return of the refugees to their homes and properties.
And about "deporting" Jews from the Arab states, it was your Zionists dirty work, liar, leave it to an Arab Jew to explain it: watch?v=suUTEcoN6R8
@abumiz countless evidences show that the vast majority of these arabs fled israel without seeing even one israeli soldier. israel as an independant state can decide weather to let them return or not. arab sources are vague and doutfull since their countries are dictatorships. they are corrupted and big liars. the jews from arab communities were deported violently and many of them were tortured and killed.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL What are your "countless evidences", liar?!! Did you hear ever in all human history that people leave their towns and homes while colonial settlers thieves are waiting to steal the lands?!! Your European Zionist thieves started to plan their theft from the end of 19th century, and the Arab natives were aware of the Zionist racist project, as Leila explains in the clip, but I wonder if you listen to her lecture before calling her a "bitch", Zionist thug!! watch?v=IfwaLExx1e8
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Your own Zionist criminal can explain why the Arab fled, stupid.
Zeev Jabotinsky, a Russian colonial settler and the father of the racist Zionist right said: ""If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find a benefactor who will maintain the garrison on your behalf. ...Zionism is a colonizing adventure and, therefore, it stands or falls on the question of armed forces." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 45)
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The same racist thug said: "There is no choice: the Arabs must make room for the Jews of Eretz Israel. If it was possible to transfer the Baltic peoples, it is also possible to move the Palestinian Arabs." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 29)
As you see your European Zionist colonial settlers didn't have any problem with their racism and theft, and thugs like yourself come here cover up for their crimes and the racist apartheid they established, and to keep the stolen lands.
@abumiz in eretz israel they zionists found a waste land. a land moslty over depopulated. don't have to mention the negev desert which is 2/3 of israel's territory and the arab never cried about it. stolen lands is a stupid myth which doesn't fit the fact that they ran away from their homes mostly by their own. if their lands were so much important they would have stayed and these who stayed and surrender to israelies recived israeli citizenships. the zionists who left everything behinde them
@abumiz only to go to a empty country, to dry swaps, to plant trees and to create a total new way of life didn't steal anything but rather earned it. of course they had natural historical reasons and etc...
the situation like it is right now, it' was better for all that a transfer of people would have happen. jews and arabs simply can't live together. no matter how much israel reaches its hand for peace they reject it in the name of islam and iran. they don't want to compromise a bit.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Hey Zionists thug, just respond to your own Zionists confessions before spreading more lies about what your colonial settlers "did" in Palestine!! Now you came back to the classic lie, Palestine was empty, and in another comment your other classic lie, the Palestinians "fled"!! And remember dummy, that Arabs have their own Jews, and they are the natives of Palestine not your European colonial settlers thieves.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL And nothing stay as it is for ever, Zionist thief! The old apartheid in south Africa is history now with its racist project, and your apartheid is no different, it is just a matter of time.
The colonial settlers in south Africa, who used also their "holy" books to steal the natives' lands and called the natives as "savages", thought their "civilized" racist state is going to be forever, and BTW they had nukes as your apartheid, learn from history, Zionist racist.
@abumiz i give a shit about what the british and french colonians did in theiradventures over the seas. the situation in israel is totally diffrent you ignorant fuck. the so called palestinians are definetelly not the natives but rather the "collonians" the jews. the jews didn't came to enslave the arabs but rather work along side them and compete their markets. the european colonians had no historical reasons to settle in these place where as their are countless evidences and jews who stayed in
@abumiz considering that 6000 jews were killed in israel's independant war(1% of the population) it's quiet an irrational descision to let these arabs who were the enemy stay. transfer occured all over the history: turks and greeks, cyprus, armenians and uzbeks, czechs and germans and etc... it's not something new and it has good sides and bad sides. if the arabs would have gone to jordan their lives would have been greater and more respectfull,. b.t.w also the jews lost lands. when the british
@abumiz offered us the balfour declaration they meant also the area of now modern-jordan. it's also a terrain that belonged to us. they wanted to apease the arabs so they gave it to the hashemian kings. i think that in syra their or lebanon there are still land that were purchased by the jews to be setteled there...
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Lets people read your "history" trash and compare it to Leila's lecture.
Did you see the clip before spreading your lies, dummy?!! Your own apartheid archive debunk your lies, cheap propagandist.
The criminal Dayan said: "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Cont..
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Continuation: Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushu'a in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
Just respond to your Zionists, they admitted their ethnic cleansing crimes but Zionist brainwashed thugs, say otherwise!!
@abumiz balh blah blah...these settlements were builts on lands tht were bought in legal transactions.
all arab land owners had no problem sell these lands since they took control of it god knows how and the turks back then didn't care. i live in an area that was once swamps. now it's a city of 270000 people. i can say the same think about the villiges sorrunding hebron in which they were jewish settlemnts 170 years ago but because the turks prosecuted them they deported them and some other
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The criminal Dayan didn't say any thing about "legal transactions", and he knew more than you about his crimes with the haganah thugs and gangs, liar!
The other criminal, Gurion explained it well, BTW he didn't believe in god but accepted his promised land!! He said: "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Cont..
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Contuation: We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Cont...
@abumiz in israel for thousents of years. the jews didn't have any financial intrests in israel unlike the europeans that came to rape their foreign lands from their natural resourses. there are no natural resources in israel except some ashlegans in the dead sea. the collonians came to impose their religion and culture on the natives, where as in israel the jews created a tottal new culture and languange and did not try at all to impose their cultre on the "natives".
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Your apartheid started in 1948 so don't talk about thousands of years.
And these European colonial settlers from Moldavia, Russia, Poland, Germany, ..... who seek their god promised land, didn't "impose" themselves on the natives, they "found" the land "empty" and the natives "fled" to live in camps on their own! Are you joking, Zionist liar?
BTW, try to study some real history and find out about the Arabs' culture, you can start by checking out their language roots, stupid.
@abumiz if you read history book and find out the truth-you become pro-israeli.
arabs started the war, they wanted to drive the jews out of israel. luckily they lost. they mosly fled and these who didn't became israelies. israel didn't let them return and it's a rational descision since they were its enemies. try not to take lessons from the islamic university of cairo or nablus and you'll find the truth. of course you don't care about these 900000 jews who were made refugees at that time.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Give me one name of your history books, Zionist ignorant!! Beside your "holy" books and its legends and myths!! Also a stupid who is unable to respond to his own racist Zionist leaders, know nothing about history, the hasbara propagandists, like you, are here to do their dirty job to cover up for an apartheid.
Again check out your own apartheid archive to learn abut the 1948 war and your occupation state ethnic cleansing crimes. Israeli Myths & Propaganda: watch?v=sIWvcBzbqVc
Tom Segev and Benny Morris acknowledged the ethnic cleansing and the the Zionists' plans, stupid!! And the second thought it was a mistake not to carry on a complete ethnic cleansing. Shovel your Zionist "historians" somewhere else, the Nazis had their own "historians" and scientists as well!!
i didn't say their wasn't expulsion but rather that most of the arabs fled by their own will. their was always something fishy about the arab claims. they tried to kill us ad wxpel us and they lost.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Just a Zionist ignorant who try to hide the racist nature of apartheid Israel would say this pathetic statement: "if you read history book and find out the truth-you become pro-israeli."
Beside the stupidity and the weak logic of your statement, I wonder if you red any history book beside what apartheid Israel teach in its "school", where the bible is used as a history book! Give us the name of your "history book"!
The Zionist Ideology and Its Overcoming: watch?v=4RxczG6xwp4
@TheTsachiG Just point out the lies, liar! Zionists themselves, like Harzl, Zangwill, Gurion, Jabotinsky... called it Palestine, and now a Zionist brainwashed, like yourself, says otherwise! Let me know if you need some of their own writings, or do your homework, before spread your trash talk here.
And to make it easy for you, just read Balfour Declaration, you will see the word Palestine there, or check out the National Geographic maps before the establishment of apartheid Israel in 1948.
@abumiz this land was called Judaea, until Publius Aelius Traianus Hadrianus conquered it from us during the "Bar Kokhba revolt": /wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt
it's like I'll conquer Cyprus and rename it Palestine and after like 500 years I'd claim that this land belongs to the palestinians, there was no such thing...it was a conquered land in the first place.
this land (and even more) was ours since the biblical time.
it was conquered many times, but we came back after all.
@TheTsachiG The name was Canaan, learn some history, ignorant. In Palestine, which is the name for this land in the 2000 years, there are populated cities, like Jericho go back at least 6000 years before even Judaism was invented, so shovel your legends and myths somewhere else, your apartheid teach the bible as a history book and we can see the results!
It is up to the Arab natives of Palestine to chose any name, not European colonial settlers like the racist ex-bouncer the Moldavian Lieberman!
@TheTsachiG Jericho existed at least 6000 years before your bible or the name "Israel" and it doesn't belong to European colonial settlers, but these freaks who seek "their god promised land" used to repeat these lies.
Here's a short history lesson for Zionists dummies.
Since archeology does not show the existence of a Jewish kingdom or kingdoms in the so-called First Temple Period, it is not clear when exactly the Jewish people would have ruled Jerusalem except for the Hasmonean Kingdom. Cont..
@TheTsachiG The Assyrians conquered Jerusalem in 722. The Babylonians took it in 597 and ruled it until they were themselves conquered in 539 BCE by the Achaemenids of ancient Iran, who ruled Jerusalem until Alexander the Great took the Levant in the 330s BCE. Alexander’s descendants, the Ptolemies ruled Jerusalem until 198 when Alexander’s other descendants, the Seleucids, took the city. With the Maccabean Revolt in 168 BCE, the Jewish Hasmonean kingdom did rule Jerusalem until 37 BCE,
@TheTsachiG Continuation: though Antigonus II Mattathias, the last Hasmonean, only took over Jerusalem with the help of the Parthian dynasty in 40 BCE. Herod ruled 37 BCE until the Romans conquered what they called Palestine in 6 AD. The Romans and then the Eastern Roman Empire of Byzantium ruled Jerusalem from 6 CE until 614 CE when the Iranian Sasanian Empire Conquered it, ruling until 629 CE when the Byzantines took it back. The Muslims conquered Jerusalem in 638 and ruled it until 1099
@TheTsachiG Contuation: when the Crusaders conquered it. The Crusaders killed or expelled Jews and Muslims from the city. The Muslims under Saladin took it back in 1187 CE and allowed Jews to return, and Muslims ruled it until the end of World War I, or altogether for about 1192 years.
BTW no sign of kingdom of David and Solomon has been found in the archeology of this period, in spite of Assyrian tablets recorded even minor events throughout the Middle East, such as the actions of Arab queens!!
@abumiz actually, Frederick II conquered Jerusalem in the sixth crusade which started in 1228.
after that the Mamluks or whatever their name is in English conquered Jerusalem in 1260 and the Ottoman empire conquered it 1516 and in the 18 and 19 century the Jews rise to power started to build in Jerusalem.
@TheTsachiG Contuation: Continuation: 3- Italians ruled it about 444 years until the fall of the Roman Empire.
4- Iranians ruled for 205 years under the Achaemenids, for three years under the Parthians (insofar as the last Hasmonean was actually their vassal), and for 15 years under the Sasanids.
5- Greeks ruled it for over 160 years if we count the Ptolemys and Seleucids as Greek. If we count them as Egyptians and Syrians, that would increase the Egyptian claim and introduce a Syrian one.
@TheTsachiG 6- The successor states to the Byzantines, which could be either Greece or Turkey, ruled it 188 years, though if we consider the heir to be Greece and add in the time the Hellenistic Greek dynasties ruled it, that would give Greece nearly 350 years as ruler of Jerusalem.
7- There's an Iraqi claim to Jerusalem based on the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests, and perhaps the rule of the Ayyubids (Saladin’s dynasty)
All have better claim than your Zionist European colonial settlers!
@TheTsachiG BTW in 1917, there were 56,000 Jews in Palestine and 644,000 Palestinian Arabs, so shovel your lies about “Jews rose to power” somewhere else, liar, these were your European colonial settlers thieve.
Palestine 1896: watch?v=lfUi4DR6NQI
Your hasbara lies to cover up for your racist apartheid can't fly anymore, cheap propagandist.
@abumiz first of all, you're the liar because you just admitted that you gave false information.
I said rose to power comared to the Jews that were there.
they were few and they grew in numbers and built homes, but comparing to the other popultion there were still a few after and because of the Bar Kohava revolt.
many Jewish people did aliya to the land of Israel in the 18 and 19 centuries.
@TheTsachiG Hey cheap propagandist, before calling me a "liar", and claiming that I "admitted" just point out where are my lies, stupid. Your BS talk about the history of crusade, Mamluks, and Ottomans, had nothing to deal with your original lies and claims about the Hebrews tribes and their "kingdoms", other can go back and read, liar. Plus the Ottomans and Mamluks are Muslims, so go back and read the full history lesson I gave you!!
@abumiz and the propaganda is on your side and they managed to wash many brains including yours cause OUR hasbara wasn't there...and it still isn't unfortunately.
and instead what the world is hearing are tons of lies and handful of truth.
the arabs show only one side and they also lie about many things
there are even clips about arab leaders that said what the Knesset member Azmi Bishara the traitor said, that there is no such thing as palestine or palestinian
@TheTsachiG I mentioned to leave to history to real historians and academics and I backed up my talk with two clips where real academics and historians explained your fraud history, not Zionist thug, like yourself, who works for the PR of an apartheid can talk about history. Stay with your "holy" books history, ignorant
And just respond to your own Zionists' confessions, I posted some of their quotes here go back and read, or I can post them again for you, cheap propagandist liar.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Many of your colonial settlers say the same: "There is Palestine", and with a Russian accents.
It's up to the Arabs to decide in their land not colonial settler thieves who use religious myths and legends to steal the natives' lands.
Similarly the European colonial settlers in south Africa, used their "holy" books to legitimize the theft of the African lands, and they used to call the natives as "terrorists and savages", but that apartheid is history now, and one more to go.
@abumiz jews are the true people of the land of israel.
jews are the native people of israel unlike the arabs who are descendants of immigrants from all over arabia to work for british mandat and some few in the ottomans. of course there are jews with russian accent and that's because they came from 2000 years of forced exile to their lands of their forefathers.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The first film in Palestine 1896 shows your lies: watch?v=hjEvqUmdth8
Don't repeat this joke about "Jews are the true people of the land of Israel". Again there are cities in Palestine were populated at least 6000 years before Judaism even invented. Do you get it, dummy, 6000 years!! This land doesn't belong to any religion and specially to Russian new convertors. And many of the old Hebrews became Muslims and some Christians. Study some real history cheap propagandist.
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The Invention of the Jewish People a book by Shlomo Sand explains the Zionists fabricated history, and it's based on their own writing!
Your Russian colonial settlers belong to Palestine as much as Indian Muslims belong to Saudi Arabia.
Again apartheid Israel teaches the bible as history book, so no surprise to see many stupid brainwashed Zionists.
Regarding the 1948, people their home and towns when thieves are waiting and planing to steal, it was your haganah crimes, liar.
the 1969 book "Myth of the Six Million" by Harvard PhD David Hoggan unmasked how the "holocaust" was fabricated to bury Hitlerism and popularize the military takeover of Germany. Subsequently the "holocaust" fraud was used to steal Palestine and deflect scrutiny away from the numerous extermination operations perpetrated by the jew-funded nations such as the Holodomor, Katyn forest, Bromberg, Danzig, Dresden, Hamburg, Cologne, Royan, Berlin, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki and the Gulag death camps.
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese.
@avikau It's up to them to decide about their name, Palestinians as they are the natives of Palestine, or Syrians because Palestine was the southern western part of greater Syria. So yes there is no different between them, and they're Arabs and the natives of the land, so your misleading opening: "The Palestinian people does not exist" is part of your apartheid PR and lies. Meanwhile the colonial settlers, from Russia and Moldavia, US..who came to create a "Jewish state" are the "Jewish People"!
@The5ilver i think what few Native Americans are left might disagree with the idea that AMerica is the promised land for all the races to come exploit.
Well I wouldn't presume to speak for anyone but myself, so with out offending anyone Jewish or Arabic.
i THINK YOU SHOULD Find a Home where you can live in peace with your brothers and sisters. AIL THIS AND CONTINUE let economic, state and religious interests GOVERN YOUR OPTIONS.
In the name of peace recognize your kinship with the Obamas, Mohawk, Sioux and Cherokee, who once also made the EXODUS you now IMO so obviously must take, no mans land could be shared? But nobody belongs there. IMO
The U.S. is key to resoving this. Every year there is a vote on The Question Of Palestine in the General Assembly. Every year, the U.S. and Israel plus some S.Pacific Atols vote against the whole world. The world wants Israel to obey international law and comply with United Nations resolutions to achieve a resolution and peace.
America constantly uses it's veto power to stifle peace.
Americans are key. Lobby your representitives, please.
Like many of today's probldms, the root source is British Imperialist meddling in other countries, but would those countries be better off today without such meddling?
oh, and one more...
/watch?v=ytWmPqY8TE0
so tell me now, what do you have to say against the truth?
TheTsachiG 7 months ago
arabs never missed a chance to miss a chance
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
she speaks about suicide bombers like if it's understandable and legitimate...dumb bitch! that an act of the devil himself. hamas wants to established an iranian like regime in israel.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Your trash abut the speaker is meaningless, low level Zionists thug.
The criminal Dayan answered to your lies, before Hamas even existed, he said in 1956, 8 years after al-Nakba: "Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived."
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz go ahead and give me another citation like if i give that much about one or two phrases. the arabs left that country in the "al nakba" mostly by their own will and by the will of the surrounding arabs. they waged a war of annihilation against us and luckily they've lost. they returned to their original states of syra, jordan, lebanon and egypt. they returned just to settle in the neighbours of jews who were made refugies by the arabs. 1 million jews were deported from the arab world .
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The Arab didn't force themselves on Russia and Moldavia, it is the other way around, stupid. Check out the names of your colonial settlers who seek their god promised land and say that "Palestine doesn't exist" and with their Russian accents!!
Your own apartheid archive debunks your lies about 1948. Israeli Myths & Propaganda: watch?v=sIWvcBzbqVc
Also check out Plan Dalet, to learn more about the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL I meant to say that people don't leave their towns and homes when thieves are waiting. Only stupid Zionists dare to say that the Arab native poor farmers left their homes because next door corrupt leaders said so! And only criminal Zionist thieves use these lies to block the return of the refugees to their homes and properties.
And about "deporting" Jews from the Arab states, it was your Zionists dirty work, liar, leave it to an Arab Jew to explain it: watch?v=suUTEcoN6R8
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz countless evidences show that the vast majority of these arabs fled israel without seeing even one israeli soldier. israel as an independant state can decide weather to let them return or not. arab sources are vague and doutfull since their countries are dictatorships. they are corrupted and big liars. the jews from arab communities were deported violently and many of them were tortured and killed.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL What are your "countless evidences", liar?!! Did you hear ever in all human history that people leave their towns and homes while colonial settlers thieves are waiting to steal the lands?!! Your European Zionist thieves started to plan their theft from the end of 19th century, and the Arab natives were aware of the Zionist racist project, as Leila explains in the clip, but I wonder if you listen to her lecture before calling her a "bitch", Zionist thug!! watch?v=IfwaLExx1e8
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Your own Zionist criminal can explain why the Arab fled, stupid.
Zeev Jabotinsky, a Russian colonial settler and the father of the racist Zionist right said: ""If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find a benefactor who will maintain the garrison on your behalf. ...Zionism is a colonizing adventure and, therefore, it stands or falls on the question of armed forces." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 45)
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The same racist thug said: "There is no choice: the Arabs must make room for the Jews of Eretz Israel. If it was possible to transfer the Baltic peoples, it is also possible to move the Palestinian Arabs." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 29)
As you see your European Zionist colonial settlers didn't have any problem with their racism and theft, and thugs like yourself come here cover up for their crimes and the racist apartheid they established, and to keep the stolen lands.
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz in eretz israel they zionists found a waste land. a land moslty over depopulated. don't have to mention the negev desert which is 2/3 of israel's territory and the arab never cried about it. stolen lands is a stupid myth which doesn't fit the fact that they ran away from their homes mostly by their own. if their lands were so much important they would have stayed and these who stayed and surrender to israelies recived israeli citizenships. the zionists who left everything behinde them
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@abumiz only to go to a empty country, to dry swaps, to plant trees and to create a total new way of life didn't steal anything but rather earned it. of course they had natural historical reasons and etc...
the situation like it is right now, it' was better for all that a transfer of people would have happen. jews and arabs simply can't live together. no matter how much israel reaches its hand for peace they reject it in the name of islam and iran. they don't want to compromise a bit.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Hey Zionists thug, just respond to your own Zionists confessions before spreading more lies about what your colonial settlers "did" in Palestine!! Now you came back to the classic lie, Palestine was empty, and in another comment your other classic lie, the Palestinians "fled"!! And remember dummy, that Arabs have their own Jews, and they are the natives of Palestine not your European colonial settlers thieves.
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL And nothing stay as it is for ever, Zionist thief! The old apartheid in south Africa is history now with its racist project, and your apartheid is no different, it is just a matter of time.
The colonial settlers in south Africa, who used also their "holy" books to steal the natives' lands and called the natives as "savages", thought their "civilized" racist state is going to be forever, and BTW they had nukes as your apartheid, learn from history, Zionist racist.
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz i give a shit about what the british and french colonians did in theiradventures over the seas. the situation in israel is totally diffrent you ignorant fuck. the so called palestinians are definetelly not the natives but rather the "collonians" the jews. the jews didn't came to enslave the arabs but rather work along side them and compete their markets. the european colonians had no historical reasons to settle in these place where as their are countless evidences and jews who stayed in
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@abumiz considering that 6000 jews were killed in israel's independant war(1% of the population) it's quiet an irrational descision to let these arabs who were the enemy stay. transfer occured all over the history: turks and greeks, cyprus, armenians and uzbeks, czechs and germans and etc... it's not something new and it has good sides and bad sides. if the arabs would have gone to jordan their lives would have been greater and more respectfull,. b.t.w also the jews lost lands. when the british
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@abumiz offered us the balfour declaration they meant also the area of now modern-jordan. it's also a terrain that belonged to us. they wanted to apease the arabs so they gave it to the hashemian kings. i think that in syra their or lebanon there are still land that were purchased by the jews to be setteled there...
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Lets people read your "history" trash and compare it to Leila's lecture.
Did you see the clip before spreading your lies, dummy?!! Your own apartheid archive debunk your lies, cheap propagandist.
The criminal Dayan said: "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Cont..
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Continuation: Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushu'a in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
Just respond to your Zionists, they admitted their ethnic cleansing crimes but Zionist brainwashed thugs, say otherwise!!
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz balh blah blah...these settlements were builts on lands tht were bought in legal transactions.
all arab land owners had no problem sell these lands since they took control of it god knows how and the turks back then didn't care. i live in an area that was once swamps. now it's a city of 270000 people. i can say the same think about the villiges sorrunding hebron in which they were jewish settlemnts 170 years ago but because the turks prosecuted them they deported them and some other
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The criminal Dayan didn't say any thing about "legal transactions", and he knew more than you about his crimes with the haganah thugs and gangs, liar!
The other criminal, Gurion explained it well, BTW he didn't believe in god but accepted his promised land!! He said: "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Cont..
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Contuation: We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Cont...
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Continuation: Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipes us out".
"But how can you sleep with that prospect in mind," I broke in, "and be Prime Minister of Israel too?"
Who says I sleep? he answered simply. (The Jewish Paradox by Nahum Goldman, p. 99)
It is the occupation, stupid.
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz in israel for thousents of years. the jews didn't have any financial intrests in israel unlike the europeans that came to rape their foreign lands from their natural resourses. there are no natural resources in israel except some ashlegans in the dead sea. the collonians came to impose their religion and culture on the natives, where as in israel the jews created a tottal new culture and languange and did not try at all to impose their cultre on the "natives".
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Your apartheid started in 1948 so don't talk about thousands of years.
And these European colonial settlers from Moldavia, Russia, Poland, Germany, ..... who seek their god promised land, didn't "impose" themselves on the natives, they "found" the land "empty" and the natives "fled" to live in camps on their own! Are you joking, Zionist liar?
BTW, try to study some real history and find out about the Arabs' culture, you can start by checking out their language roots, stupid.
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz if you read history book and find out the truth-you become pro-israeli.
arabs started the war, they wanted to drive the jews out of israel. luckily they lost. they mosly fled and these who didn't became israelies. israel didn't let them return and it's a rational descision since they were its enemies. try not to take lessons from the islamic university of cairo or nablus and you'll find the truth. of course you don't care about these 900000 jews who were made refugees at that time.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Give me one name of your history books, Zionist ignorant!! Beside your "holy" books and its legends and myths!! Also a stupid who is unable to respond to his own racist Zionist leaders, know nothing about history, the hasbara propagandists, like you, are here to do their dirty job to cover up for an apartheid.
Again check out your own apartheid archive to learn abut the 1948 war and your occupation state ethnic cleansing crimes. Israeli Myths & Propaganda: watch?v=sIWvcBzbqVc
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz books:
tom segev-"the days of the anemons", "1967and the land changed its face"
ram oren- "the target:tel aviv", latroon
benny morris- "the birth of the palestinians refugees problem", the birth of the palestinian refugees problem-a new overlook",
efraim kersh- "Empires of the sand: the struggle for mastery in the Middle East"
wikipedia
and many others...
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Did you read these books, dummy?
Tom Segev and Benny Morris acknowledged the ethnic cleansing and the the Zionists' plans, stupid!! And the second thought it was a mistake not to carry on a complete ethnic cleansing. Shovel your Zionist "historians" somewhere else, the Nazis had their own "historians" and scientists as well!!
Check out your Ziopedia: watch?v=pOhIwx5jgj4
Your PR is so busy!!!
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz go ahead and watch the whole show:
?v=JNjK2HUUBEs
i didn't say their wasn't expulsion but rather that most of the arabs fled by their own will. their was always something fishy about the arab claims. they tried to kill us ad wxpel us and they lost.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Just a Zionist ignorant who try to hide the racist nature of apartheid Israel would say this pathetic statement: "if you read history book and find out the truth-you become pro-israeli."
Beside the stupidity and the weak logic of your statement, I wonder if you red any history book beside what apartheid Israel teach in its "school", where the bible is used as a history book! Give us the name of your "history book"!
The Zionist Ideology and Its Overcoming: watch?v=4RxczG6xwp4
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz others took control of it.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
not all of the international laws protect israel's security. israel should obey only the laws that ensure its security.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
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Fuck hamas's terrorists ...7 days ...24 ours... Amen....
Vitachekster 9 months ago
how many lies...there were no such thing as palestine.
her whole lecture is a big lie and brainwashing machine.
TheTsachiG 10 months ago
@TheTsachiG Just point out the lies, liar! Zionists themselves, like Harzl, Zangwill, Gurion, Jabotinsky... called it Palestine, and now a Zionist brainwashed, like yourself, says otherwise! Let me know if you need some of their own writings, or do your homework, before spread your trash talk here.
And to make it easy for you, just read Balfour Declaration, you will see the word Palestine there, or check out the National Geographic maps before the establishment of apartheid Israel in 1948.
abumiz 10 months ago
@abumiz this land was called Judaea, until Publius Aelius Traianus Hadrianus conquered it from us during the "Bar Kokhba revolt": /wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt
it's like I'll conquer Cyprus and rename it Palestine and after like 500 years I'd claim that this land belongs to the palestinians, there was no such thing...it was a conquered land in the first place.
this land (and even more) was ours since the biblical time.
it was conquered many times, but we came back after all.
TheTsachiG 10 months ago
@TheTsachiG The name was Canaan, learn some history, ignorant. In Palestine, which is the name for this land in the 2000 years, there are populated cities, like Jericho go back at least 6000 years before even Judaism was invented, so shovel your legends and myths somewhere else, your apartheid teach the bible as a history book and we can see the results!
It is up to the Arab natives of Palestine to chose any name, not European colonial settlers like the racist ex-bouncer the Moldavian Lieberman!
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz Canaan was the whole land's name (where Israel is now and more), it was an old name to that area.
Judea is the name of the land that the so called "palestinians" claim that it is theirs.
it's a part of Canaan.
throughout history that land was renamed several times.
the Romans changed it's name to "Syria Palaestina" to erase the connection between the Jews that lived there and the land after the Bar Kokhba revolt.
and btw, Jericho was also ours in the biblical time.
Palestine is a fraud.
TheTsachiG 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG Jericho existed at least 6000 years before your bible or the name "Israel" and it doesn't belong to European colonial settlers, but these freaks who seek "their god promised land" used to repeat these lies.
Here's a short history lesson for Zionists dummies.
Since archeology does not show the existence of a Jewish kingdom or kingdoms in the so-called First Temple Period, it is not clear when exactly the Jewish people would have ruled Jerusalem except for the Hasmonean Kingdom. Cont..
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG The Assyrians conquered Jerusalem in 722. The Babylonians took it in 597 and ruled it until they were themselves conquered in 539 BCE by the Achaemenids of ancient Iran, who ruled Jerusalem until Alexander the Great took the Levant in the 330s BCE. Alexander’s descendants, the Ptolemies ruled Jerusalem until 198 when Alexander’s other descendants, the Seleucids, took the city. With the Maccabean Revolt in 168 BCE, the Jewish Hasmonean kingdom did rule Jerusalem until 37 BCE,
Cont....
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG Continuation: though Antigonus II Mattathias, the last Hasmonean, only took over Jerusalem with the help of the Parthian dynasty in 40 BCE. Herod ruled 37 BCE until the Romans conquered what they called Palestine in 6 AD. The Romans and then the Eastern Roman Empire of Byzantium ruled Jerusalem from 6 CE until 614 CE when the Iranian Sasanian Empire Conquered it, ruling until 629 CE when the Byzantines took it back. The Muslims conquered Jerusalem in 638 and ruled it until 1099
Cont.
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG Contuation: when the Crusaders conquered it. The Crusaders killed or expelled Jews and Muslims from the city. The Muslims under Saladin took it back in 1187 CE and allowed Jews to return, and Muslims ruled it until the end of World War I, or altogether for about 1192 years.
BTW no sign of kingdom of David and Solomon has been found in the archeology of this period, in spite of Assyrian tablets recorded even minor events throughout the Middle East, such as the actions of Arab queens!!
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz actually, Frederick II conquered Jerusalem in the sixth crusade which started in 1228.
after that the Mamluks or whatever their name is in English conquered Jerusalem in 1260 and the Ottoman empire conquered it 1516 and in the 18 and 19 century the Jews rise to power started to build in Jerusalem.
so what you said is not true.
TheTsachiG 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG Leave history to real academics and historians, not Zionist propagandist like yourself: watch?v=lfUi4DR6NQI
Before spreading your BS, Just take care of your old lies about the Hebrew tribes and their “kingdoms”!!
And to make it easy for your thick Zionist head, here are the groups that have the greatest claim to the city:
1- Muslims, who ruled it and built it over 1191 years.
2- Egyptians, who ruled it as a vassal state for several hundred years in the second millennium BCE.
Cont...
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG Contuation: Continuation: 3- Italians ruled it about 444 years until the fall of the Roman Empire.
4- Iranians ruled for 205 years under the Achaemenids, for three years under the Parthians (insofar as the last Hasmonean was actually their vassal), and for 15 years under the Sasanids.
5- Greeks ruled it for over 160 years if we count the Ptolemys and Seleucids as Greek. If we count them as Egyptians and Syrians, that would increase the Egyptian claim and introduce a Syrian one.
Cont.
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG 6- The successor states to the Byzantines, which could be either Greece or Turkey, ruled it 188 years, though if we consider the heir to be Greece and add in the time the Hellenistic Greek dynasties ruled it, that would give Greece nearly 350 years as ruler of Jerusalem.
7- There's an Iraqi claim to Jerusalem based on the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests, and perhaps the rule of the Ayyubids (Saladin’s dynasty)
All have better claim than your Zionist European colonial settlers!
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG BTW in 1917, there were 56,000 Jews in Palestine and 644,000 Palestinian Arabs, so shovel your lies about “Jews rose to power” somewhere else, liar, these were your European colonial settlers thieve.
Palestine 1896: watch?v=lfUi4DR6NQI
Your hasbara lies to cover up for your racist apartheid can't fly anymore, cheap propagandist.
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz first of all, you're the liar because you just admitted that you gave false information.
I said rose to power comared to the Jews that were there.
they were few and they grew in numbers and built homes, but comparing to the other popultion there were still a few after and because of the Bar Kohava revolt.
many Jewish people did aliya to the land of Israel in the 18 and 19 centuries.
TheTsachiG 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG Hey cheap propagandist, before calling me a "liar", and claiming that I "admitted" just point out where are my lies, stupid. Your BS talk about the history of crusade, Mamluks, and Ottomans, had nothing to deal with your original lies and claims about the Hebrews tribes and their "kingdoms", other can go back and read, liar. Plus the Ottomans and Mamluks are Muslims, so go back and read the full history lesson I gave you!!
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz and the propaganda is on your side and they managed to wash many brains including yours cause OUR hasbara wasn't there...and it still isn't unfortunately.
and instead what the world is hearing are tons of lies and handful of truth.
the arabs show only one side and they also lie about many things
there are even clips about arab leaders that said what the Knesset member Azmi Bishara the traitor said, that there is no such thing as palestine or palestinian
it's a lie invented against israel
TheTsachiG 7 months ago
@TheTsachiG I mentioned to leave to history to real historians and academics and I backed up my talk with two clips where real academics and historians explained your fraud history, not Zionist thug, like yourself, who works for the PR of an apartheid can talk about history. Stay with your "holy" books history, ignorant
And just respond to your own Zionists' confessions, I posted some of their quotes here go back and read, or I can post them again for you, cheap propagandist liar.
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz I'm not working for anyone...our PR is shitty as you can see.
our country somehow believes that people will know the truth without telling them the truth, I don't know why.
but it doesn't work and no one will do anything about it.
you want clips? there you go:
/watch?v=U1KkYjhFryA
/watch?v=YHbCGC6amdk
/watch?v=m2E5eAwiS2o
/watch?v=hBKPX7bvvVo
and I have many more clips like those
just to show you the truth...and stop swearing, if you don't agree with me it doesn't mean you have to swear
TheTsachiG 7 months ago
@abumiz here are some more:
nymei.org/palestine-david-and-goliath-eng.html
all the clips of Glenn Beck on youtube regarding Israel and the Arabs.
/watch?v=lYB4pG3kHIY
/watch?v=EJk3uLItPIg
/watch?v=63hTOaRu7h4
TheTsachiG 7 months ago
@abumiz palestine isn't even an arab name-that's roman name given to israel after the exile of the jews as a mockery for them.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL Many of your colonial settlers say the same: "There is Palestine", and with a Russian accents.
It's up to the Arabs to decide in their land not colonial settler thieves who use religious myths and legends to steal the natives' lands.
Similarly the European colonial settlers in south Africa, used their "holy" books to legitimize the theft of the African lands, and they used to call the natives as "terrorists and savages", but that apartheid is history now, and one more to go.
abumiz 7 months ago
@abumiz jews are the true people of the land of israel.
jews are the native people of israel unlike the arabs who are descendants of immigrants from all over arabia to work for british mandat and some few in the ottomans. of course there are jews with russian accent and that's because they came from 2000 years of forced exile to their lands of their forefathers.
TheLordIdanZiegeL 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The first film in Palestine 1896 shows your lies: watch?v=hjEvqUmdth8
Don't repeat this joke about "Jews are the true people of the land of Israel". Again there are cities in Palestine were populated at least 6000 years before Judaism even invented. Do you get it, dummy, 6000 years!! This land doesn't belong to any religion and specially to Russian new convertors. And many of the old Hebrews became Muslims and some Christians. Study some real history cheap propagandist.
abumiz 7 months ago
@TheLordIdanZiegeL The Invention of the Jewish People a book by Shlomo Sand explains the Zionists fabricated history, and it's based on their own writing!
Your Russian colonial settlers belong to Palestine as much as Indian Muslims belong to Saudi Arabia.
Again apartheid Israel teaches the bible as history book, so no surprise to see many stupid brainwashed Zionists.
Regarding the 1948, people their home and towns when thieves are waiting and planing to steal, it was your haganah crimes, liar.
abumiz 7 months ago
the 1969 book "Myth of the Six Million" by Harvard PhD David Hoggan unmasked how the "holocaust" was fabricated to bury Hitlerism and popularize the military takeover of Germany. Subsequently the "holocaust" fraud was used to steal Palestine and deflect scrutiny away from the numerous extermination operations perpetrated by the jew-funded nations such as the Holodomor, Katyn forest, Bromberg, Danzig, Dresden, Hamburg, Cologne, Royan, Berlin, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki and the Gulag death camps.
SupplantThis 1 year ago
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese.
avikau 1 year ago
@avikau It's up to them to decide about their name, Palestinians as they are the natives of Palestine, or Syrians because Palestine was the southern western part of greater Syria. So yes there is no different between them, and they're Arabs and the natives of the land, so your misleading opening: "The Palestinian people does not exist" is part of your apartheid PR and lies. Meanwhile the colonial settlers, from Russia and Moldavia, US..who came to create a "Jewish state" are the "Jewish People"!
abumiz 1 year ago
Americas is the promise land of mixed
mixed race people. Obama is a native.
Israel / Arabia is middle Earth and nobodies ancestral homeland.
The5ilver 1 year ago
@The5ilver i think what few Native Americans are left might disagree with the idea that AMerica is the promised land for all the races to come exploit.
Ryguy1450 1 year ago
Well I wouldn't presume to speak for anyone but myself, so with out offending anyone Jewish or Arabic.
i THINK YOU SHOULD Find a Home where you can live in peace with your brothers and sisters. AIL THIS AND CONTINUE let economic, state and religious interests GOVERN YOUR OPTIONS.
In the name of peace recognize your kinship with the Obamas, Mohawk, Sioux and Cherokee, who once also made the EXODUS you now IMO so obviously must take, no mans land could be shared? But nobody belongs there. IMO
The5ilver 1 year ago
The U.S. is key to resoving this. Every year there is a vote on The Question Of Palestine in the General Assembly. Every year, the U.S. and Israel plus some S.Pacific Atols vote against the whole world. The world wants Israel to obey international law and comply with United Nations resolutions to achieve a resolution and peace.
America constantly uses it's veto power to stifle peace.
Americans are key. Lobby your representitives, please.
Thanks for the video Paul.
wotdoesitmatter 2 years ago 6
Like many of today's probldms, the root source is British Imperialist meddling in other countries, but would those countries be better off today without such meddling?
grubelsucht 2 years ago 3