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  • @BT3701

    Actually, it's not the 'bad' Christians who make Christian morals look bad. It's the Bible, which glorifies scapegoating and a God who is unjust and psychotic.

    The 'good' Christians are just good people who happen to be Christian, and whose morals are pretty much exactly the same as modern secular morals - empathy, responsibility, honesty, and service to others.

  • I ate a Sugar Baby once.

    It made me Mormon. 

  • Since you were straight forward without pulling any punches, please allow me to be just as straight forward by commenting on something you said. You said: "Christian's need to check their morals" I don't disagree with you, but would like to state a fact, and that fact is - not everyone who claims to be a Christian are Christian. Even the Bible talks about false Christian's. It's the MANY false ones that give the real ones a bad name.

  • Thank you for this. I only have one other athiest friend. Most of my friends are christians particularly Catholic. And I don't care that they believe. If they try to argue religion with me or tell me that science is wrong, I will argue back. But I typically try to avoid the topic of religion with them.

  • I just don't see what is so wrong with there being a God...what is so wrong with a God creating the beauty that we see in nature...the universe, and even our own bodies (yes even those with handicaps, He even says in scripture that He created them so He has a purpose for that and no not to be made fun of which is something people choose to do not what He intended)..a God who is sovereign...its all a matter of whether or not one trusts Him

  • @Forgivenone0 It is a lovely idea but there is no evidence to support that its anything more than a fantasy from an age when we had a much smaller understanding of the world around us. And all "Holy" texts show the age they came from. None stand the test of time. None were written from a perspective other than that of a human during the age they originated from. The very nature of the various God by modern values even of believers is monstrous and archaic.

  • @Forgivenone0 - So what is wrong with believing you can jump out of a window on the 80th story of a skyscraper and not get hurt? Does it hurt you to believe that? Not as long as you don't test out your theory, or try to convince anyone else to try out your theory - then it is your own private craziness. However, religious people, particularly Christians do try to spread their irrational beliefs to others. One person means nothing, but collectively it does a great deal of harm in society.

  • @MrPlanx Hold on there buddy, that is what gets me about some atheists...see it is ok and almost right to some of you guys to offend people of faith by calling us irrational and sometimes mocking us and call us crazy, meanwhile those of us who choose to believe in God and in His Son (and truly follow Him cause there are some false ones out there) will do nothing but love you, pray for you and hope for nothing but the best for you , and when we do that we are called crazy, irrational and bigots!

  • @Forgivenone0 - Because it IS IRRATIONAL. Look up the meaning of the word irrational - utterly illogical. It is not an insult to call someone retarded if they ARE retarded. It is a statement of fact. Someone who believes in talking snakes, all the living creatures of the world fitting on a boat, a story about living inside of a whale's belly, a pit of eternal fire - these is all COMPLETELY obvious fiction found in the same book. You can't pick out the parts you like and be an actual Christian.

  • We are harm to society alright, the countless of movements to help the poor, sick, hungry, imprisoned, that have been done in the name of Christ throught these past 2000 years are one of the biggest problems of society. Yes there are have been horrible things done in the same Name, but not everything done in the name of God is what God wants, the crusades for example were wrong and that is fact, cause even Jesus said to love our enemies which includes those who oppose us.

  • @Forgivenone0 - There was a time when religion was necessary for mankind. ALL primitive cultures invent a religion. Christianity is one of them. 21st century: we need to view it in the proper context - the result of early man trying to answer questions that they lacked the tools to investigate the REAL answers to. The message of Christianity is basically that Earth is just a big waiting room to go to heaven or hell. REALITY - we better start taking care of the planet. It is ALL we have!

  • We are also commanded to not argue with anyone but to simply spread the Truth in love, in other words we state what we have seen, heard, and experienced in our own lives and share it with others we do NOT impose. Whatever one does with the Truth is their own choice, our job is to share it and then those who desire to follow Christ we help them in their decision while those who reject Him we continue to love them and help them in their needs and pray for them.

  • But no we are bigots, irrational, and crazy in doing those things I have stated. Instead we should go ahead and be like everyone else who retaliate with violence and offenses at those who oppose us. (Being sarcastic here of course, and indeed some "Christians" do offend and harm cause one disagrees with them which is contrary to what Christ said)

  • I actually did leave my religion, not my church since I'm forced to still go (but whatever), because of the hypocrisy and what not...

    The intellectual point just helps it along. :)

  • and they say atheism isn't a religion

  • @blurryshiny Do you see something her to suggest otherwise? 

  • @blurryshiny Calling atheism a religion is like calling someone who doesn't play football a sportsman

  • Little babies- yummy!

  • I like my babies stir-fried with ginger and garlic! ;-))

  • LOLd

  • I *knew* you were into Medusa. Sellout.

  • Keith, I like your delivery, your humor, and your laid-back style. If you ever come to Boston, send me an e-mail and let's have a coffee.

  • you havnt seen God, and you will never see God until you change your additude. You are not pure and of feeble mind. Weak are your arguments and thoughts, you deeply lack wisdom and understanding. Your dull, your boring, you lack passion, your plain, your faithless, your meager. Perhaps a disaster should strike you, and then call out and see what the outcome is. Excite you a bit, russle your feathers, shake up your spirit. you think your far from death and you understand not the terrors of death

  • @shootomatic

    My subtractitude trumps your additude until you can provide evidence for your claims. Waxing (poorly) poetic does not equate to anything but a drive-by proselytization. You ought to know better than to confront intellectually honest people with supernatural garbage. Finally, implying that traumatic occurrences in one's life will make believers of nonbelievers is a very tired canard.

  • @infideluxe la de da. Ok smarty pants, put on your little grey thinking cap and tell me exactly how the universe has come to be at this very moment? You surely have a understanding of galactic's?

  • Leaving religion is scary

  • @0162399312 Indeed. My hope is that the internet makes it easier to find a community and therefore less scary.

  • @0162399312

    Yup. But staying was worse.

  • @0162399312 Actually it's pretty neat. Once you leave this magical thinking way of life and look at reality , it gets really scarey, but once you get used to it, it's great. The reality of this world is far more interesting than any thing I can make up. Truth is stranger than fiction , my friends. Be proud that you can handle it, while most people can't. Organized religion has a way of making people into sheep and grown folks into into quasi-children who can't think for themselves.

  • @flubno This is magical thinking..instead of placing your faith in the creator, you place it in creation..you have your own exclusive membership, and everyone else who doesn't believe what you do is deluded, all based on no evidence..you have more faith than you had before, except this time it is blind.

  • @blurryshiny There is no creator and I don't place that much faith in creation. Faith is unnecessary , for pretty much anything in life. Believing is goofy shit doesn't make it true and the fact that you need faith is just a Meme you were taught as a kid. Is that the only way you know how to frame a argument , thru religious dogma ? You should try getting out into the World more, expand your horizons . That Bronze Age mythology is making a fool out of you.

  • @flubno What is your evidence that there is no God? And faith is something we all have, whether it is in god or science or ourselves, you have faith in things you cannot prove, and knowledge you cannot confirm, and in people you do not know. You have faith the sun will rise tomorrow, you have faith that reality is not a deception, you have faith that there is no God. It's more pervasive than you seem to realize.

  • @blurryshiny Well I have never seen God. Most of God's attributes seem like to me like the personification of the Human Ego. It's OK to say "I don't know" about stuff. It's better than saying I have faith in stuff. As an atheist of about 14 years, faith isn't really in my vocabulary anymore. Compared to a overtly religious person who's "faith" colors their whole perception of life. You don't need faith in known facts either. The grass is green , Sunrises, ect. Waste of time and energy.

  • @flubno I think what blurryshiny is trying to say is that you do use faith in some way shape or form on a consistent basis...you have to have faith that your nurse who is taking care of you when your hospitalized studied their procedures well and they know what they are doing...you have to have faith that your car is built well that the break isnt going to fail when your on a fast highway...a few examples

  • NO NO NO NO we NEED the oversharing...

    ...makes me feel better about my own shitty existence...

    i dont get laid NOBODY GETS LAID!!!

    plus it means u'll have time to respond to this comment...?

  • Sooo glad to have this series back! Thanks for bringing up these points. They drive men NUTS when talking to Christians!! And as for eating babies...you might try the "baby patch". It's worked for me! Baby-free for 2 years!

  • Damn. You shouldn't have said that about the babies. I trying to cut down too, and now you made me hungry.

  • I think that christian's sexual represion has a point... to get more excited when they get involved in orgys... and that is probably true . ...

  • atheism makes some people leave the *church*, not the religion ... you make this distinction well.

    Of course, leaving a church is often the first step (e.g. in my case) to leaving one's religion. Religion maintains and propagates itself by some pretty clever (ie highly evolved) tricks, which lose their power when you leave a church.

    Personally I think that "hypocrisy" is a lousy reason to have a problem with Christianity, for a number of reasons but I'm out of space.

  • [continued]

    That first recognition of hypocrisy within the Church opened my eyes to something I never even thought to look at, and now that I think about it, probably would have refused to examine if it were presented to me. Ultimately, it allowed me to question all the things I simply accepted on faith. I can’t stress the importance of that first step enough in relation to me becoming an atheist...

    Is my situation truly that uncommon?

  • Is becoming an atheist by seeing hypocrisy in a church really a common misconception?

    I left the Catholic Church because of the hypocrisy I saw associated with the rampant child rape and subsequent cover ups. For me, it was a long progression (almost 10 years) to go from being a Catholic to an atheist and without that initial, utter disgust in the actions of my Church, I would probably still be some type of “believer”.

  • @StoneE4 742 people have viewed this video and you're the first with such a comment. Not scientific by any stretch, but from my anecdotal experience I'd say its rare. And even in your case, the hypocrisy in the church played a role in your examining you faith but it was only the spar. It is not ultimately why you left theism. There are MANY who leave Catholicism but who remain religious.

  • @klfly "It is not ultimately why you left theism."

    Yeah, I suppose that's the key.

    You convinced me... That would be a misconception for my case too, no matter how important it was as a first step.

  • ATHEIST ORGIES, where we make babies, and share recipes on how best to cook them.

  • We need to organize some crazy atheist orgies...

  • I'm an ethical vegan, but even we make exceptions for babies. Those fuckers are just tasty.

  • Saw the hypocrisy in the Catholic Church at age 12, but considered myself a Christian. Read the NT several times and still considered myself a Christian, then I began to read the Bible (age 45).

    I wanted to know who wrote that crap, so I did some scholarly study of the origin of the Bible, which led me to the origins of the Gospels.

    No one knows who wrote this crap.

    I realized that all cultures have invented their gods, and they were figments of people's imaginations. Atheist Arrived.

  • I stopped eating babies when I became a garbage disposal contractor for the local abortion clinic. Now I feast on heaps of aborted fetuses.

  • @cookeladoo Nah. Babies are like biscuits, you have to leave 'em in the oven till they're done or they just don't taste right.

  • Enjoyed watching this vid while chowing down on some fried baby legs.

  • and another one: "atheism is just another religion"

    yea right - as long as "bold headed" counts as hair color...

  • The religious are about to find out about us folks - be more carefull!

    I slipped myself recently when asked: "You dont like children ehh?"

    ...and I absentmindedly answered: "not at all - it depends entirely on the preparation..."

  • It's been my theory for years that sociopaths have a special affinity for Christianity. I think the "we're all wicked evil sinners" message resonates with them. They assume because they lack empathy everyone else does, and they think only thing keeping everyone in line is fear of inescapable eternal hellfire.

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  • its not healthy!!!

    there is a lot of baby fat

    but it tastes so good!!!

  • Sweet, why lie is on the free internets! Thank you =D

  • @TASDeign You're most welcome. Please tell a friend, or two, two hundred. :D

  • Ads for this video...

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    Pardon me as I wring my hands cartoonishly at my monitor!

  • I completely agree with NukeMarine! With the biblical God's track record, why would one believe in it. I think most Christians worship Jesus and not God, which can get confusing. That's why, with Jesus being the supposed bridge to God, some of us would've advised Jesus not to bother with the whole sacrifice thing. This is a very good video! I hope it does indeed clear up some misconceptions.

  • It may sound odd, but I look at atheism as not worshiping anything. It's not about believing in a higher power or even an omnipotent power. I flat out tell people that even if their god actually existed, I still wouldn't worship it.

  • I've got a new respire for baby roast. The last fourteen days before you are putting it in the pot, bottle feed it coco-milk with garlic and chilli.

  • lol nice point, we can't be pro-abortion bcs we need more babies to eat.

  • Bit quiet

  • Unicorns invisible and pink and the leprechaun gives an Irish wink,

    Pegasus with feathery wings and Hobbits with master rings

    These are a few of my favorite things.

  • great vid dude 

  • "We need those babies born SO WE CAN EAT THEM"

    AWESOME xD

  • I had an angry phase when I was an agnostic, actually. Before I was comfortable with the label of "atheist," I used to view Christians as brainwashed automatons bent on ruining my life and the lives of everyone who had a different worldview. Now, I see them as brainwashed automatons who are mostly good people, and I don't pay them much mind. And finally, I also love babies . . . mostly broiled and bathed in a light vinaigrette.

  • If all babies were atheists, they'd eat other babies.

    Also, you should really tone down your scathing hatred of god... and hobbits.

  • Damn...I guess I'm anti abortion now, thanks for reminding me I would be out of food ...sheesh :> What was I thinking.

  • Hitchens had a great line that said something like: "If you found out that the Bible was absolutely not true, would you then start screwing in the streets?" Probably not!

  • @Venaloid Most unfortunate. Our streets are in desperate need of more screwing I say.

  • @klfly Hmm, that could be an interesting deviation of the Occupy movement.

  • In the "angry" opinion you mentioned, I think they mean more specifically "angry at God" which has the same rebuttal as the former problem, where they don't understand lack of faith.

  • Everyone talks about baby eating like its a bad thing... must never have tried rotisserie style before.

  • I also personally believe that I prefer aborted babies to live babies. I mean they are on my diet plan since they are so small...

  • @zombiehunter3579

    Bite-sized babies!

  • @zombiehunter3579

    I enjoy the baby-whites. You know, without all that cholesterol.

  • I personally believe that mass orgies are not fun.

  • mmm babies.. om nom nom

  • hmmm.....don't think you should be eating babies, not much meat.

  • Your videos are great even without angry screaming :)

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