NangPa La * SHOOTING an Eye Witness Account - www.Youtube.com/TibetArchive

[dotytanner]

if anyone is much interested in this story, their is an indepth book about kelsang who was shot and her friend dolma. the book is called "Murder in the High Himalaya"

[FuckCheaChineseGirls]

This time communist china was unluckey and caught in climbers camera.

There are thousands of such incidents since chinese illegal rule of Tibet,East Turkistan and Inner Mongolia but they couldn't record in camera like this.

UNO,EU and US did nothing.They even never dared to questioned communist authorty in Beijing and force to bring this millitary peronnel and the commanding officer to the justice.

[FuckCheaChineseGirls]

Fuck the UNO,useless organisation,wasting public money and can do nothing.

[Oriah]

Why don't we just kill Chinese people all over the world? Wouldn't that be cool?

Just discusted by these people. Cowards is what they are.

[dfperrault]

NangPa La * SHOOTING an Eye Witness Account - Chinese soldiers Shooting & Killing Tibetan refugees

[m1up]

I hate the Chinese government. Down with them. I would kill every single one of them. I swear to god, someday il do it.

[tayounorise]

They destroy tibetan culture and kill tibetan monks and nuns it is unbelievebal and i really get scared!

namaste

*bow*

angela

[leontrotsky108]

@LIULIHAO check it out ignorant idiot

[leontrotsky108]

listening to the chinese is like listening to someone you know who tells lies constantly. U can never believe a word that person says. I'm amazed when i hear the chinese telling these lies, thinking the whole world will believe them... the only people who dont know the truth are the decent chinese people who are fed these lies, while the rest of the world and the chinese officials themselves know what lying bastards they are. People like liulihao = ignorant evil wanker

[malakamlesh]

When will the UN act against the Chinese?

Disgusting.

[tayounorise]

@malakamlesh

I agree with you this is terrible they kill innocent people that is so sad.

We need to stand up for Tibet!

namaste

*bow*

angela

[Tendagami]

Chinese Lie

Tibetans Die

World Silent

[hendrixphish420]

truly disgusting.

pathetic excuses for human beings.

they'll get theirs

[thewhitelightangel]

Oh!this is very sad to see,these chinese soldiers shooting and killing innocent people.I'm chinese and im sad to see this all life is precious..tibetan,chinese,whit­es..we are all human beings.

[scottish785]

@thewhitelightangel Sadest part is the CCP then claimed it was just normal border management. Whats normal about shooting unarmed women and children LEAVING the country. It's not like they were trying to get in they were in fact trying to get out. I think I sent you entire video but I will just in case as it is far sadder then just this short clip!!

[IzabellasHope]

she dies in the snow...it was a nun

[ChoasTheory2000]

Another reason why you shouldn't buy Chinese products or do business with them at all.

[GameDocumentaries]

yes, because that will make them stop mistreating their citizens...

another reason why you should educate yourself before you form an opinion

[ChoasTheory2000]

What exactly should I educate myself on to teach me that human rights should be universal? But you're probably right about it not doing anything but it would be the ethical thing to do and really the only thing we could do on an individual level. Asking nicely just won't do anything, but economic sanctions might. If you have a better idea then voice it instead of being such a condescending prick and we could have a proper debate instead of throwing insults.

[GameDocumentaries]

well, i wasn't really insulting unless you're too soft skinned to already take a little sarcasm that seriously. may be you should have taken your own advice regarding debates instead of calling me a prick. great way of being a hypocrite... anyway, i'll answer your questions. sanctioning the chinese will first of all hurt yourself. china is the most important market world wide. any major western country that would start an economic embargo would commit economic suicide

[GameDocumentaries]

that's a fact and that's why it hasn't happened yet. china knows it too and that's why they don't give a damn. also, the chinese market is massively self-reliant. most of the export is done by western companies that are situated in mainland china and produce there, so china wouldn't really be hit.

[GameDocumentaries]

let's assume it would affect them. who do you think would suffer most? not the rich ones. not the ones with a good education, not the ones living a middle class life in the cities, but the lower class inhabitants that already have to to struggle to make ends meet. and part of those are also minorities...those that you actually try to help with your idea. sanctions are always a bad idea. iraq and cuba have proven that. also, china has shown that it can stand on its own feet.

[GameDocumentaries]

i agree that human rights should be universal, but i'm not so blue-eyed to think that there's always a way to force them upon independent countries. in case of china, all measures have turned out unsuccessful. there is no solution in sight other than reminding the chinese government on a political level that we haven't forgotten about the human rights violations.

[GameDocumentaries]

may be in the future there will be something to pressure the chinese government with. right now, it's impossible. but even if it was, don't forget that this would only cause suffering on a much larger scale. the chinese suffered during the long march and the cultural revolution and there's no reason why this couldn't happen again. it would only worsen the problem, because it never affects those who are in charge, but only normal people who don't have the power to deal with the results

[ChoasTheory2000]

Let's hope so, but as history has shown us it's only after much repression and violence that societies rebel and change these societies. Self-determination is key to any healthy society and unfortunately we see very little of that today. By not doing business with the devil we may make it harder for them in the short term, but they will ultimately be pushed to rebel against their oppressors or destroy themselves as most empires do.

[GameDocumentaries]

yeah that's what i find perverted and also why i oppose sanctions. hurting people so much that they rebel against their leaders almost works never (counter example?). worsening people's situation so much that they suffer just to change politics is a wrong way.

it certainly won't work for the chinese. as i said, they endured more than most western civilizations could imagine and still cheer for their butchers. throw in their influenceable mentality and you will hope for change forever.

[ChoasTheory2000]

Suffering can be a blessing in disguise for future generations who can learn from the mistakes made. History speaks this truth more than any other.

[GameDocumentaries]

true, at least that's the cliché that documentaries tell us, but history teaches a different lesson. despite the fact that we had mass slaughters in world war 2, we experienced the same gruesome deeds in china, cambodia, yugoslavia, rwanda, the whole middle east.

if there is an agenda to be pushed, then victims of former traumatic events are quickly forgotten. or can you remember a war that was stopped before it really took off, because people suddenly remembered the cruel parts of history?

[ChoasTheory2000]

Well we'd remember our histories if we were taught them. Our society is ultimately the problem because we are more concerned with celebrity gossip or what new consumer craze hit the market than why wars start and the history leading to them. Sanctions don't work because some politician is always tying his own corrupt ideology and agendas to them. What I advocate is a a boycot of buying the junk coming outta China and all tyranical countries, by taking personal responsibilty for choices we make.

[ChoasTheory2000]

Not doing business with someone who is commiting crimes is not blue-eyed. It's being human and conscience of the suffering happening in these types of countries. By funding their genocides, it continues the suffering of the people in these countries. I'm not saying force them to respect international law, but by taking an ethical stance on the issue all you say is that if you want to do business with us you have to stop killing innocent people. It might be hard to do, but I beleive it's right.

[ChoasTheory2000]

You being a prick has to do with the fact that you make assumptions that I am uneducated on a topic and also the condescending tone of your first comment. It's not about me being soft or a hypocrite, it's about you not being polite when trying to engage in a conversation.

[ChoasTheory2000]

I realize that sanctions won't work for those exact reasons you stated, but I'm not talking about the economics of not buying from countries, not just China, that commit horrible human rights violations. I'm talking about the ethics and ultimately the hypocracy of doing business with people who willingly commit attrocites. By personally minimizing and changing our consumption habits, we can individually embody the change we want to see in the world by not funding these regimes as best we can.

[GameDocumentaries]

well, you describe the basic goal of using an embargo and while it sounds logical, i'm still convinced that it doesn't work. can you name an example where a boycott actually changed the course of a country that was ruled by a dictatorship? i sure can't. saddam blamed the medicine shortage due to an embargo on the US and cuba still hasn't changed, despite the american embargo, that almost spans 5 decades. same goes for the EU's weapon embargo against china

[ChoasTheory2000]

Well first off the Cuban embargo is not about human rights, it's about U.S. Ideology against Soviet Cuban Ideologies. Both sides care nothing about human rights. Suddam doesn't work as an example either because first the U.S. arms him, puts him in power and then sanctions him, then invades to try to fix the problem the U.S. started. I'm saying have a hands off policy and let the country in question deal with it's problems without any support for either side coming from us.

[ChoasTheory2000]

When sanctions happen in the way I described them, then I'll give you an example. Sanctions as we've seen them to date have always been about forcing an ideology onto another group of people. If they want to murder each other or live in tyranny, go ahead and see how that works out. But we can't contribute to the same things we disagree with. We have become a society of hypocrites. A nation is more than it's economy, armies or politicians, it's about the morals of it's people.

[GameDocumentaries]

I was asking about an actual example where your idea about sanctioning actually works. you gave me a philosophical point of view which is nice but useless unless it actually has worked before. remember, this debate started with us disagreeing whether or not sanctions on china would help furthering human rights in this country. i showed why i think that it won't work by citing actual events. now please do the same.

[ChoasTheory2000]

Well maybe if you read what I stated in previous comments I said "I realize that sanctions won't work for those exact reasons you have stated." You are correct that it is a philosophical point of view that for the most point has not been tried or tested and therefore their is no example. As I see it there has been no example of sanctions that have been successfull. This doesn't mean we can't try a different approach, perhaps a philosophical one. Unless you have a better solution?

[GameDocumentaries]

well, philosophy won't help you change politics. it never has and there's no reason why it would now. in case of china, the only solution i see, is to open up the country even more and give the population the chance to educate itself and get other people's point of view.

the internet is already helping a great deal to achieve that. knowledge transfer, globalization and the fact that chinese people openly embrace western culture will also help. then all you need is patience...and lots of it

[siver7272]

Shame on china!!!!!

[avsarbey11]

chinese are not human,,they are satan evil

[FunnyMcBunny]

No, but their government is.

[Philip1635]

STOP the kiling on Tibet!!

They mean no harm to chinese goverment!

Why do they need to shoot these inocent people???

[traduzum]

Que acto tao flagrante e cruel, no entanto considero que as leis devem ser respeitadas e cumpridas!!

[claudiarute]

This is "our" World...

People means nothing for the "leaders"...

[xelnos21]

Why does youtube get banned in china? its not like the world doesnt know?

What china did is wrong and the govt. should be changed to a government who handles things much better than this one.

[pueroz]

From some comments below, you can tell many young Chinese are brain washed. They don't know that Tibet was invaded by China. Their education is that Tibet "is" part of China.

If their logic is right, then Japen did not invade China....

Japen did invade China, similar to China invaded Tibet. Murders normally deny their guilties....

[kougoesonaquest]

THIS IS WRONG.....

[HumanRightsVideosT]

This is also wrong.

China´s massacre in Spratly islands (real footage 1988)

watch?v=WeAaX73D3Og

watch?v=WeAaX73D3Og

64 brave sailors where killed and you can see it on that video. Not easy to watch. But do not be too sad for them. They were brave men and they were warriors.

[SpratlyReefMassacre]

You have to ask the question why do these incidents happen. Do communists have no regard for life ???

[Philip1635]

no they don´t, they kill anyone that doesn´t agree or doesn´t do what they say....

This is again the horror of comunism...

[kougoesonaquest]

i agree with you...the Chinese Communist think that they can invade peoples land and take it into their own hands....i disagree on this....

sometimes you can't really do anything, but the only thing to do is flee away...not saying that you really want to but you have to just to survive...like you said...

sorry to hear....

[epiconside]

USA IS THE LARGEST PRISON ON EARTH 3 MILLION PEOPLE ON USA PRISON......BEFORE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION....BUT NOW CHINA HAS VOUGHT USA FEDERAL RESERVE....WE R HELPING HUMANS

HELP CHINA PIRATE ITEMS AND UPSET ESTABLISH ORDER SO MONEY WILL DEVALUATE

NO MONEY-NO POVERTY-NO SLAVERY=EQUALITY

china older than ejsus christ even if we worship em,,china knwos how to live without money system that is why china is on top

money-created by WESTENERS

ROOT OF ALL EVIL=MONEY

[ChinaLootsKillsNuns]

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FYI This shooting of an unarmed teenage nun happend in Tibet, not the US.

[epiconside]

false propaganda.....dalai lama is using religion for hsi own good......

chinese has jewish,chirstian,muslim,bhuddi­st people living in harmony...chinese has 52 races ,han-race,huang-race,indo-chin­a,malay,roman-china(near europe border)......china eldest living civilization on earth has seen empires come and go like roman aztec etc..we discovered wheel,gunpowder,modernboat etc...we have suffered everything on this planet..if god loves some1 one arth it is china

FUCK YOU CHINAKILLSNUNSLOOTS

[ChinaKillsNunsLoots]

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Remember this video is about Prison Camp Tibet, the World's largest Prison Camp.

Tibet is HELL on Earth.

Many unarmed Tibetans get shot. Not just one young nun.

Free 6 million Tibetans suffering in Prison Camp Tibet from the brutal chinese communist party.

[ChinaKillsNunsLoots]

Tibet is the World's largest Prison Camp.

Free 6 million Tibetans suffering in Prison Camp Tibet from the evil the chinese communist party.

[OptionM45]

One question:

Why did those Tibetans risk their lives? To see Dalai Lama? If Dalai were a true buddhist, or a decent gentleman, he would persuade those people not to take such risk.

All is because Dalai seeks personal power.

Old bastard!

[ChinaKills]

To learn more about Tibetan refugees escaping Tibet over Nangpa La pass and human rights in Tibet please watch

Document China Oppress Tibetan & Culture Genocide

It states

"Tibetans want to escape so they can study their language and culture, which isnt available in schools there. They risk being arrested by Chinese police and have to cross high mountain passes."

[SonicPLD]

this video is forbidden in China ...

huh

[khampagal38]

Another of hearts pain is my two baby brothers i not seen since i taken from my homeland...they two went to indian thinking be free...no one has seen them herd of them since...so we my families know whats happened to them...Shame on the chinese pigs treat us like animals like dogs like catle they treat us like whiteman treated the beautiful native americans tride wipe them out..Same with chinese trying wipe us out in any means...SHAME ON THE CHINESE.

[chaodaibing]

The central government has treated the Tibetans very well, without imposing taxes.

But I feel very sorry that the innocent Tibetans are shot by the soldier.That's wrong.

[TheRealChina]

Truly ask yourself, what is "Material gain" without freedom? What you saying about Chinese Gov't helping Tibetans financially is incorrect. There are Tibetans working in office but that is extremely low. The majority, i'm even willing to say 98% of Tibetans are treated harshly and are in very bad economic status because they are Tibetan.

The influx of Chinese into Tibetan region is further driving Tibetan identity to extinction and on top of that Tibetans are already in poverty status.

[ChinaKillsNuns]

Han chinese immigration into Tibet is a disgrace and the cause of many problems in Tibet, Cultural Genocide for instance, which is the reason many Tibetans go over Nangpa La pass in the first place.

[susub75]

@chaodaibing If we can shoot you, you don't have to pay any taxes. Great deal, don't you think?

[kalurakshas]

Someones gonna have to pay.Either this life or the next. !FREE TIBET! Pray for compassion in the hearts of our poor chinese brothers and sisters.

[nzgav]

My freely life in Tibet (8.53)

has Tibetans talking about

this shooting at NangPa La. Beatings. Crazy prisons sentences for trivial things. Land confiscation. Forced resettlement. Torture. Forced sterilisation (without anaesthetic).

[ChinaKillsNuns]

My freely life in Tibet (8.53)

has been removed. Please watch

Dispatches Undercover in Tibet (48 mins, on google video)

[TheRealChina]

Yup, they removed all of the ones that i uploaded. You just gave me an idea, i'm going to post the link in all of my Vid.

That will def help bring light to this brutal injustice in Tibet.

[nzgav]

Please watch

Torture in Tibet: A Buddhist Nun Tells Her Story

where 15 teenage nuns were imprisoned, tortured and 14 died. The survivor tells her story. The first 2 minutes and 5 seconds will show you how bad things can get in Tibet.

[nzgav]

The Nun's Tale  Tibet

says Needren ended up in hospital. Her five companions did not survive being tortured.

[nzgav]

Tibet

To see how BAD things are please watch

Undercover in Tibet part 6

which is part of the excellent

Dispatches Undercover in Tibet (48 mins, not on youtube)

[nzgav]

Undercover in Tibet part 6

covers the following topics

Forced sterilisation, forced abortion. Imigration. The new railway. Theft of minerals, raw materials, people being watched and followed.

[ChinaKillsNuns]

Undercover in Tibet part 6

has been removed

Dispatches Undercover in Tibet

is on google video

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

The excellent human rights video "Dispatches Undercover in Tibet" (48 minutes) isn't on google video now. Please go to

tinyu rl. com/gubaUT (remove spaces)

and learn heaps about modern Tibet.

[nzgav]

The Chinese are free to travel and migrate around the world. Yet Tibetans get shot trying to walk across the border.

[ChinaKillsNuns]

This video shows part of a long and dangerous journey by Tibetans to escape Tibet because it is very hard to get an exit visa. They risk frostbite, exposure, and being shot. They are often ill prepared and walk for days without food or clean water.

Kelsang Namtso, a nun was shot in the back and killed by Chinese soldiers and 2 bullets hit another Tibetan. It is believed 18 children and adults missing since the shooting, are either held by Chinese authorities, were killed or have been executed.

[jin3557]

need time, wait,

[ChinaLootsKillsNuns]

The chinese communist party will implode.

Then the world will be a much better place.

[khampagal38]

This is so sad,thats what happened to my 3 friends they was raped beaten then shot as i escaped...this was in Amdo grasslands...When will this all end the killing the beatings,the rapes and Torture: