I guess you know from my video you responded to that I see morality as an idea we use to tell us what we should do, so there can be bad moralities, etc, this is another semantic difference because you are talking about deriving a good morality, and the fact that the source of this is not community, but the will, which I agree... still, I call what a culture thinks a "morality" as well, coming from the will of that community combined.
I believe morality is independent from communit and cultures because it fails to address the question "what is good" without committing the naturalistic fallacy. However, it does address other fundamental questions in ethics of "why should we be good".
another semantic difference: I prefer the natural language connotation of ethics and morality to the classical categories. I tend to consider ethics and morality as degrees of the same thing and forget about the other distinctions from classical western philosophy.
"naturalistic fallacy" is used to refer to the claim that what is natural is inherently good or right, and that what is unnatural is bad or wrong. it's an attempt to define good as anything other than good. "goog" is just a simple concept and just a fundamental building block of other concept.
youtube ate my comment. anyway, naturalistic fallacy is an attempt to define good as anything other than good. Good is a simple concept that serves as a fundamental building block of other concept.
I agree with this mostly except I have to translate the terms... I have semantic differences. E.g. I think ethics are the shared values, negotiated, as they are, for example, by professional organizations. The Bar sets the ethical standards for lawyers, and so on. I forget the name but a major psychological organization has controversy now about if it's ethical for psychologists to take part in harsh interrogations, so on.
Come Together from "Abbey Road" in 1969, first track on the album, great tune man.
SirPwn4lot 2 years ago
I guess you know from my video you responded to that I see morality as an idea we use to tell us what we should do, so there can be bad moralities, etc, this is another semantic difference because you are talking about deriving a good morality, and the fact that the source of this is not community, but the will, which I agree... still, I call what a culture thinks a "morality" as well, coming from the will of that community combined.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
I believe morality is independent from communit and cultures because it fails to address the question "what is good" without committing the naturalistic fallacy. However, it does address other fundamental questions in ethics of "why should we be good".
Shanella28 4 years ago
what do you mean by naturalistic fallacy?
another semantic difference: I prefer the natural language connotation of ethics and morality to the classical categories. I tend to consider ethics and morality as degrees of the same thing and forget about the other distinctions from classical western philosophy.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
"naturalistic fallacy" is used to refer to the claim that what is natural is inherently good or right, and that what is unnatural is bad or wrong. it's an attempt to define good as anything other than good. "goog" is just a simple concept and just a fundamental building block of other concept.
Shanella28 4 years ago
sounds "good"
pyrrho314 4 years ago
yeah yeah I can't type. :D
Shanella28 4 years ago
lol, no "good" is in quotes because you were talking about the word good... I don't care about typos which my own messages prove! :)
pyrrho314 4 years ago
to define good as happiness, progress, pleassure by community's standard is as was as futile as trying to define, say, the concept of "blue".
Shanella28 4 years ago
youtube ate my comment. anyway, naturalistic fallacy is an attempt to define good as anything other than good. Good is a simple concept that serves as a fundamental building block of other concept.
Shanella28 4 years ago
sometimes they take a second to come up... I'm sure it has to do with youtube's distributed hosting system and load balancing.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
well, not sure, but speculating.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
I agree with this mostly except I have to translate the terms... I have semantic differences. E.g. I think ethics are the shared values, negotiated, as they are, for example, by professional organizations. The Bar sets the ethical standards for lawyers, and so on. I forget the name but a major psychological organization has controversy now about if it's ethical for psychologists to take part in harsh interrogations, so on.
pyrrho314 4 years ago
thanks for posting
bigeeezy 4 years ago