Fuckin' beautiful. Perfect playing, too. To play something that requires as much skill as fusion, and to play it SO DAMN WELL and FLAWLESS...Mr. Gambale is beyond words.
@whyfuckwhenyoucaneat What you become the greatest players on the planet and guys who are amazing musicians as well will buy your records and listen to you for hours and sit in the rain to get a ticket like a kid going to see a Brittney Spears concert? Who cares if the masses do not get it... This music is for the advanced listener and player... It's like if a guy with a pilots license got to go flying with the Blue Angels.
@SuperGuitarman69 Typical answer from a typical jazz snob. By the way, I'm a jazz guitarist, so don't go accusing me of liking Brittany Spears. You dicks wear technical jazz as a badge, instead of just enjoying music. This is my point. This is purely a technical exercise in musical brilliance. it's not music. Most jazz musicians are blinded my skill, that they forget about what really makes music enjoyable. This is just so people can stroke their beards and tut at anyone who doesn't like it
@whyfuckwhenyoucaneat No, it is an answer that honors these guys.. It isn't music? Says who? You? If you really want to go there then let's. You label me a jazz snob? No I just love Chick and the intensity in his music.. I actually get goose bumps when I hear it... So then let me analyze you then... From my experience whenever a player cannot do something another player can, they will label them technical players and say something about their feel etc... It is bred from jealousy. How do u likeit
Wow, you really turned that around on me, didn't you? Sorry, Jackass. I learn jazz because I want to become a better musician, so I can be more versatile. NOT so that I can use all of my technique and knowledge AT ONCE. Jazz snobs like yourself consider this music to be the pinnacle of all music. This is just an exhibition of musical prowess. Yes, they're brilliant. But any good musician knows that variety is what makes music great. This is full-bore, 100% technique without feel.
And the fact that you guys get SO FUCKING UPSET any time someone comments negatively on these videos, betrays how you really feel about the genre. You know I actually have a point, and that bugs the shit out of you.
@whyfuckwhenyoucaneat Without feel? Yeah exactly what someone says who cannot play like that... People without feel cannot play in time. Or have you not learned that yet... And if it bores you then why did you come to a page with Frank on it?? And oh another thing, Frank is absolutely one of the nicest guys you could ever meet.... He thinks in terms of musicality.. There would be nothing more insulting to him than you saying he plays without feeling.. That is the most insulting thing you've said
@whyfuckwhenyoucaneat Oh FYI I am not a jazz snob... I play music for a living and play fusion and/or jazz for fun.... I live in Nashville if that tells you anything... And I am the player I am today because of guys like Frank... I thank him for taking guitar to the highest level it has ever been mastered... If not for him and a handful of other guys I never would have became the player I am... If I would have stayed stuck on a Hendrix, Satriani, or Van Halen I would have never have learned
nah, shawn lane is still the pinnacle of guitar playing. if you can play everything shawn lane did then you can play the hardest stuff ever played on the guitar. there still is nobody that can play everything that he did.
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Shawn is a decent player, but he is predictable and he plays straight up and down scales.. He isn't even in the conversation.. Sorry to tell you, but I actually play this instrument well.. Not tooting my own horn, but I know it inside out.. Gambale is the best.. He simply plays things that cannot be played.. Shawn god love his heart isn't even in the conversation in the least.. Sorry to burst your bubble there, but it is a fact..
that MUST have been a joke. up and down scales? predictable? watch?v=Wq2GqlFmNUk i trust guthrie govan, rusty cooley, buckethead, greg howe, jonas hellborg, michael angelo batio, and john petrucci's opinions over yours any day. fact my ass. you obviously have little to no experience on the guitar. saying "i can play the guitar well" does not entitle you to spew bull shit and go against actual guitar virtuoso opinions, now shut your stupid trap.
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Guess what? I make more money playing guitar over any of those players.. And I am on the radio constantly.. I am recorded MORE than they are.. Yes my opinion is not only valued, it is proven.. And NO Shawn Lane is not in the conversation of Gambale.. In fact, dude, I KNOW Shawn.. He would be the first to tell you he isn't even in the league of a Frank Gambale.. And so would everyone you named..
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Guess what? I make more money playing guitar over any of those players.. And I am on the radio constantly.. I am recorded MORE than they are.. Yes my opinion is not only valued, it is proven.. And NO Shawn Lane is not in the conversation of Gambale.. In fact, dude, I KNOW Shawn.. He would be the first to tell you he isn't even in the league of a Frank Gambale.. And so would everyone you named..
SHAWN LANE IS DEAD YOU FUCKING DUMBASS!!! you just proved that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are a compulsive liar. everyone i named? that's funny because buckethead said that shawn lane was the greatest guitarist ever, rusty cooley said that shawn was the pinnacle of guitar playing, greg howe said that shawn didn't influence him because he couldn't understand what he was doing, and pg called him the most terrifying guy on the planet. dumbass.
@FeedMeForiAmATroll I was on a tour with Shawn in 2000 through 2001, we did a total of 20 dates together.. My band and his thing with others on the bill.. Yes I know Shawn.. I would have NEVER have said that he was better than Gambale.. Or hell me even.. He just isn't that type of person.. Only dumbass troll wanna be guitar players like you will troll and give your worthless opinions on who is better than who.. And this is coming FROM A FUCKING PRO.. Gambale is the best player in the worldPeriod
empty words. you're clearly all talk. you have no proof that you have done any of the things you have said. you don't even give your name. and once again, you fail if you think you have an opinion on this when you apparently did the shitty guitar work for taylor swift. you're one professional who's work (if it even exists) is far from virtuosic. an incredible amount of true virtuosos disagree with you. money doesn't mean shit either.
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Lol.. It's all good.. You like whoever you want.. And as far as virtuoso goes.. you know who I am you just don't know.. And I am not going to have someone with troll in your screen name following me around.. And fyi, I am all over youtube
there is absolutely no reason to believe that you have done anything special if you can't even give away your name. i know people way more all over youtube than you who disagree with you so i don't see what your point is. the fact is that the rest of the professional guitar world disagrees with you. everybody from rusty cooley to greg howe to paul gilbert to michael angelo batio to buckethead. if fame matters and you're that famous then you are apparently better than gambale.
@FeedMeForiAmATroll You are naming rock players.. Players who have technique (well Paul has very very good technique) but they are not playing difficult music.. They are playing diatonic music.. They are not playing over complicated chord changes that are switching literally every beat. They are not called upon to test their theoretical knowledge in milliseconds. Even in technique, with the exception of Gilbert (cooley is fair) Gambale is far superior. He is cleaner, more complex, and Part 1
@FeedMeForiAmATroll he plays every single note with hardly ever any pulls offs, hammer ons or sliding.. Let me put it to you another way.. I started learning guitar by listening to the typical Howe, Morse, Van Halen etc.. Then became a Gilbert fan (in regards to learning) then I heard Gambale.. There isn't anything that those guys played that I couldn't play.. I am 42 years old and I STILL cannot play like Frank. He is simply the best, that is NOT an opinion. It is a fact. And buckethead? please
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Oh and another thing... Gambale is actually musical.. That is another big part of it.. He isn't running scales.. I would choose Howe over really any of those other guys.. Because playing up and down diatonic patterns at 190 really isn't impressive to me.. Not since I was able to do that at 17.. After I learned how to pick that fast it wasn't impressive.. It was only Gambale who stumped me. With his lines, and his execution. To this day, I still have a hell of a time with it.
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Oh and ONE MORE thing.. There are people (kids for goodness sake) all over youtube that can play like all the rock shredders.. It simply isn't that difficult.. But go looking to see Gambale clones at any age... They don't exist.. Chick Corea writes the most complicated music on earth bar none. And Chick has worked with the best musicians that ever lived. He would NEVER hire anyone you mentioned. Why? because they simply cannot pull off the gig.
really? buckethead plays over 20 genres, rusty cooley is an extremely advanced neo-classical guitar player, greg howe is just plain tasty, paul gilbert is highly technical and plays his fair of genres (not just rock), michael angelo batio started his career with jazz gigs etc. the more you open your mouth the more retarded you look. your complete lack of knowledge is a pain in the ass.
continuing: an extremely hilarious thing you said is say that paul gilbert is the only one that isn't far surpassed by gambale when he has even said in this interview watch?v=7Hux7r7FlXk that shawn was the most terrifying guy on the planet and paul had to resort to tapping to get anywhere near shawn lane speeds and stretches. there also NO shawn lane clones. plenty have tried, all have epically failed.
Since when has Gambale done anything near that challenging? He hasn't. There are a handful of guitarists better than Gambale in the technical department. Shawn Lane, Marshall Harrison, Tosin Abasi, Allan Holdsworth, Rusty Cooley, Kiko Loureiro etc. You're a nutcase if you expect people to believe that you are as credible as you say. Your channel revolves entirely around politics, not music.
@Fluffypopcicle That isn't my only channel.. My other one I would not use to give my opinions on and there is a good reason why. I have lived in Nashville for years and am well known in circles, jazz, country and bluegrass.. My actual close friends may know my opinions but not those that know me from guitar only... And those you mentioned are really great players.. But they are not Gambale.. A lot of rock only guys always throw them out.. They just are not at the level to be in that convo. Sorry
@Fluffypopcicle I find that most rock players do not understand music completely.. I have witnessed this.. They are great at shredding up and down scales in sequences.. And it is cool no doubt.. But not difficult. It just requires a lot of time to get it clean enough and fast enough.. But it isn't impossible.. There are kids all over youtube doing it.. Frank is not only playing technically and theoretically the most advanced stuff, he is doing it musically without the use of sequencing.
You don't understand music at all. Shawn wasn't a rock player in his later days first of all and neither am I (I play lots of things, but I mainly play technical metal and jazz). Shawn plays jazz fusion and indian music which btw is much more complicated than what Gambale does. Second of all, he isn't up and down. Shawn's playing is much more complicated than that. Thirdly, I can play almost all of Gambale's material. I don't see why you think he is so damn technical, he isn't.
@Fluffypopcicle Oh and you can play what Gambale plays? I've been playing for over 30 years and I can't... So you conceded prick.. You wanna save face? Get your camera, learn one of his solos, our post enough of you playing like Gambale and POST IT! Prove it you wanna be idiot
You little fuckwad, YOU'RE TIM HALCOMB!!! You're file name, the ridiculous claims about yourself that are blatantly not a true, and I saw one of your files trolling a Guthrie Govan video and talking about how great Gambale is. Wow, I can't believe I wasted my time with you. Stupid douche.
@Fluffypopcicle Who the hell is Tim Halomb? I've never even heard of him, so no strike one. And you are unwilling to listen to what I am saying, you want to really understand it? Try sitting down, learning Charlie Parkers Donna Lee, or Coltranes Giant Steps.Play it at 150, THEN learn Got A Match by Chick Corea.. THEN learn and play note for note ANY solo that Gambale played on youtube.. ANY of them.. Then learn a solo from asn't you named and post the Gambale solo on youtube. I'm wasting MY time
When I get a decent camera I will post a cover. However, in the time being since you're so damn good why don't you post a cover of that Shawn Lane link I sent? Good luck with that. I assumed you were halcomb (I still think you are) because you have guitar, man, and an inappropriate number in your file name. Sounds just like a halcomb account. Oh, and good luck "figuring me out" based on my channel. With all the music I listen to that is literally 100% impossible.
Oh, and it's not how long you have been playing it's what you have been doing with that time. If you can't play all of Gambale's stuff after 40 years you must have been practicing those taylor swift power chords that you supposedly wrote for her for 4 decades. You're a joke. Trying to convince people that you are credible based on literally no evidence whatsoever would never hold up in an actual debate. You're a disgrace to the guitar community in many ways.
@Fluffypopcicle You are a wanna be.. I played on Taylor Swift records yes, but also on Bela records, and Victors stuff as well as Weckl years back at his clinics and shows, also played on Branfords new soundtrack thing but not sure when that will come out.. Secondly, I know this instrument inside out.. I've been playing forever, I am well known (unlike you) and am well respected. However, I do not engage in who is better than who in polite conversation.. I am too well known and that Part 1
@Fluffypopcicle isn't a politically correct thing to do.. I have told Frank many times that I felt that way.. He appreciates it, but is a very humble guy.. Some of my peers include Brent Mason, Tommy Emanuel etc.. And Al didn't play with the electric band.. The most complicated music ever recorded.. And sorry sport, I've played it all, including playing with Chick on a few things here in Nashville.. So I know the music well.. And let's test your so called knowledge shall we? I know you Part 2
@Fluffypopcicle you can look all of it up on the internet.. But let's challenge you to do so, it is 12:20 here so let's see how quick you are.. How would you approach scale choices over these chord changes in the key of C.. C min7 / A7 (#5b9) / Eb maj13 / Ab 13(b9) / G min7 / C 11 / F maj7 (#11) / Bb 13 (#11)... Tell me how you approach playing over those changes SPORT
That isn't part of the argument. That's musical knowledge, not technical knowledge if you know what I mean. I could answer the question, but that's irrelevant. Right now I'm learning a Frank Gambale "monster lick" which i will eventually post once I get my friend to record me. Any experienced guitar player knows that playing 8 fret augmented stretch tricky patterns all across the fretboard while picking 18 nps is harder than any sweeping or anything Gambale does.
That isn't part of the argument. That's musical knowledge, not technical knowledge if you know what I mean. I could answer the question, but that's irrelevant. Right now I'm learning a Frank Gambale "monster lick" which i will eventually post once I get my friend to record me. Any experienced guitar player knows that playing 8 fret augmented stretch tricky patterns all across the fretboard while picking 18 nps is harder than any sweeping or anything Gambale does.
Oh, and one last thing. You act as if Gambale is the only guitarist that can possibly play with Chick Corea, but Paco De Lucia, Bill Connors, Earl Klugh, and of course Al Di Meola.
Whoops, I didn't finish the sentence. All of those other guitarists have played with Chick Corea. And btw I'm half-way done with that monster lick and i would be finished if I weren't so damn lazy. My band is having a gig next week and we always post stuff from our gigs. I'm probably just going to play the monster lick there.
None of those are me. I probably won't get around to posting videos any time soon so I just decided to find guys that could play some of the most complicated Gambale material. Gambale's stuff is not impossible to play. The hardest things on the guitar known to man are things done by Shawn Lane and the current world record guitar speed (FOTB at 600 bpm).
@Fluffypopcicle No sorry.. They did a good job coping a little bit of his stuff, but they cannot play that way, otherwise they would have been improvising over something and not playing something they learned.. Plus it wasn't clean, it was a touch sloppy, I can do that as an imitation.. And no, playing flight of the bumble bee is not exactly something amazing.. Like I told you, listen to what is above here, then realize that that is musical and WAY more complicated than playing over Em.
Playing FOTB isn't amazing, but playing it at 40 nps is mind-blowing. If your logic is "since there aren't any people that have the exact same style as Frank Gambale then that makes Frank Gambale the best guitarist ever" then you need to plug your brain in if you have one. The first link was just a tad sloppy, but the second link was flawless. He just had a bad tone.
@Fluffypopcicle i don't think you understand or get it.. It isn't complicated to play diatonic (same scale over a group or changes)... It comes down to sequences and patterns.. It is far more complicated to play over changes that are coming at you twice in a measure.. Not only play over them, but musically, in time, and as fast and clean Gambale does.. Plus he sounds exactly the same with a clean tone, or acoustically.. Shawn cannot do either..
Okay, first of all that was a bull shit statement. All Shawn said was that "I regret revolving around speed so much in my earlier years." You're full of shit. If you're so damn good at the instrument then prove it. True professionals have made it very clear how highly they think of Shawn Lane. Shawn is far from a diatonic player. You are completely mental for thinking that he is. He was anti-diatonic in any stage of his career.
Continuing: "It comes down to sequences and patterns" which Shawn kicked ass with. Shawn played extremely complicated things when it came to "patterns." He had extremely weird groupings that are ludicrously hard to pull off and he played them at speeds that far surpass Gambale's. On top of that it was CLEAN. He could keep in perfect time with picking watch?v=Wq2GqlFmNUk he just plays very odd patterns doing it so a retard such as yourself doesn't realize it.
@Fluffypopcicle Also, as I have stated numerous times.. I think my judgement on this subject comes from one who actually knows music and the instrument itself.. I've known of Shawn Lane for years.. It wasn't until the very very end when he actually started trying to be a "real" player.. By his own admission.. He couldn't keep in time with picking when he actually tried to start playing the correct scales over real chord changes.. So he went to a more Holdsworth style.. Legato.. No technique P2
@Fluffypopcicle actually... He simply couldn't pull it off.. There are several videos on here that show that.. I actually PREFER that playing over him playing nonsense and eluding to it as being "outside".. He knew later in life that he was full of shit, first off you need to actually understand what you are playing in theoretical terms and hearing it before you can say you know what is "outside". Once he did that he became more of a complete player, but NOT before that..
Continuing again: you have a very poor understanding of what playing "outside" means. Playing outside means playing out of key momentarily for tension and then coming backing back in key for a nice release. It's something used a lot in jazz and fusion. Shawn used augmented patterns and crazy stretches to create these outside sounds. Hell, he made them sound so good that they occasionally didn't even create that tension.
@Fluffypopcicle Okay, lol, so you think you understand what "outside means?" Let me ask (and I've a theoretical musical term to you before) Find Fred by Alan Holdsworth.. What I want you to do is figure out every single chord, and then tell me what not only what the chord is, but also the scale choice on each chord but what you think 'outside" actually is.
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Outside_%28jazz%29 like I said you douche. I don't have to go through that shit to know the definition of something. That's like telling somebody to prove that they know what the aeolian mode is by pointing out every time a jazz guitarist uses it, it's stupid and pointless.
@Fluffypopcicle You cannot play random shapes and call it "outside".. It doesn't work that way... It has to be done musically.. Shawn (at least not til the end) didn't understand.. But I know that he was on a track with Gambale and made the comment that he has a lot to learn about the guitar after that... Guess he started his learning process after that.. It's one thing to attempt to play fusion, completely different to actually play it..
Yes you can. Outside means outside of the key. If you aren't playing in key then you are playing outside, period. Now whether it sounds good or not is the important thing and "sounds good" is subjective. Kirk hammett plays outside a lot and I think he sounds like shit whenever he does (I think he sounds like shit in general), but some people like it. You're arguing apples and oranges here. I would like a link to where Shawn said that.
@Fluffypopcicle Well to be honest, I read it in a conversation that I was not a part of on youtube.. It was pertaining to the track he was on with Gambale.. It was obvious he wasn't as locked in and as musical as Gambale.. Which isn't fair.. Gambale NEVER misses. If he plays it? You can hear it as perfection.. On that track Shawn was playing a touch out of time, and even used some improper scale choices which I heard.. But like I said, by now? He would have been a monster.
"He would have been a monster." His nickname was The Memphis Monster and rightfully so. If you can't bring any support to back up these claims (a link doesn't mean just youtube links, if he said that on record then you can go find it and prove he said that), but until then you are spewing bull shit.
Continuing: your reasons for Gambale being so special are bull shit. There aren't any Gambale clones, but hardly anybody has tried to be. There have been countless people that have tied to be a Shawn Lane copy and they have all failed epically. Buckethead and Paul Gilbert and to resort to tapping, Rusty Cooley had to resort to legato and dumb down Shawn's licks, Guthrie doesn't come close etc. nobody has come REMOTELY close to Shawn.
Continuing again: the conversation of what somebody can play or not does not, and should never refer to playing in somebody's style. It refers to being able to play everything the other person plays as in covering their material. Those links I sent you were perfect. The monster lick one had 3 sour notes or so, but the other one is perfect. When you can find somebody that can cover this watch?v=WhTHxkIllvU then you win.
@Fluffypopcicle And therein lies the truth.. I went to your link.. Yeah, do you get why I say what I say now? Exactly what I was talking about.. A bunch of symmetrical sequential nonsense at warp speed out of time.. The fact that you cannot hear that and that because he is playing with so much distortion and delay with random shapes not based on anything says it all.. There is nothing musical about that.. I would rather see him try to play over Margaritaville than that.. See if he has any time..
There are no chord progressions that he was playing over so there wasn't a given key, it was all improv and following the drums was not a necessity here, and he wasn't using all sequencing. You also seriously contradict yourself there. You say there is no sequencing yet you say that there are no specific shapes and it wasn't based on anything implying the complete exclusion of sequencing. Do you even know what sequencing is? I doubt it.
Continuing: even if he was using sequencing (he did at times, but it was far from all sequencing), there is nothing with sequencing. Sequencing is the basis for a lot of classical stuff. Vivaldi in particular. If you think Vivaldi made bad music then you don't have the right to judge lil wayne. That was also a partly memorized improv. He did that stuff multiple times when playing not again and the argument here is about technical ability, not musicality.
@Fluffypopcicle I already sent you a PM analyzing each solo on the Lane Garsed Gambale track.. Critically.. Giving credit where it was due, and showing you the things that needed to be fixed.. Proving to you that technical ability starts and ends first and foremost about time.. So that IS technical ability.. If you want to talk about that? Then Cooley has a much better grasp (for the most part) that.. At least before the real fast stuff..
Staying on time is a musical aspect. Are you trying to tell me that playing in meters of 11/8 7/4 9/16 and 5/4 makes you a technical guitar player? No, it doesn't. If time matters so much then Meshuggah and Dream Theater shit all over Gambale in that aspect. If playing fluently over complicated chord progressions matters then Holdsworth shits all over Gambale. You're not special for not using sequencing either. Gambale is special for inventing sweep picking. That is ALL!!!
@Fluffypopcicle It isn't playing in poly rhythms that is the measure of greatness.. It is time.. Plain and simple.. Every student I have ever had, I have told them first and foremost before any mind blowing chop you may have, you have to learn time, then you must learn how to groove the time.. So to the listener they can get it.. It is paramount to any player being worth a shit.. After that? Tone, touch, technique, and knowledge.. all of which makes a great player.. Out of time is out of time,
You absolutely fail to grasp the many concepts of playing on time. I have no further of speaking considering you think polymeters is an off time theory and don't even think they exist. When I say polyemeter I mean polymeter, not polyrhythm. Your last pm was unbelievably stupid.
@Fluffypopcicle Yeah you polymeter is the same exact thing as polyrhythm.. It doesn't mean that you can play out of time.. Look it up you excuse making weasel. Time is time is time.. Either something is in time or it isn't.. either you are playing a stream of notes that lock to time and pocket, or you are playing gibberish.. Which there are tons and tons and tons of players on here doing that.. Turn on your metronome and play straight up and down the major scale at 150 in 16ths. Then Part 1
@Fluffypopcicle Part 2.. play as fast as you can with the metronome on with no regards to time and pocket.. You will find that it is gibberish and easy, and sounds like shit...
@Fluffypopcicle You moron.. I am trying to teach you something here.. You can continue to be the best player in your basement, or actually listen to someone who is a real player who explaining to you the importance of time and pocket.. If you look in wikipedia it will tell you Polymeters see Polyrhythms.. So understand something.. If you EVER want to leave your job at UPS you had better start listening to professional players.. You were wrong about that and my name IS NOT TIMMY YOU IDIOT
I was going to send you to wikipedia too. Apparently you can't read. A polyrhythm is all in the same time signature. the rhythm is ever conflicting though because you can play a set of 3s in 3/4 and set of 2s at the same time. It sounds strange, but it's the same time signature. Polymeters are at least 2 DIFFERENT time signatures going on at once. polymeters resolve, polyrhythms don't.
@Fluffypopcicle Here is your lesson for the day.. Polymeters resolve? correct.. very good.. You play a phrase over let's say 5 and it takes 4 measures to resolve the entire phrase back to 1.. Very good you understand that.. But that is NOT what lane was doing.. He wasn't playing a "polymeter" He lost control of time.. Polymeter does NOT lose groove and time.. It does not sound strange to the ear.. Losing time means you slipped out of the pocket.. Which is exactly what he was doing..
I never said he did you fucking retard. He wasn't using polyrhythms, or polymeters, or any of that, it was goddamn example of how you can deceive people in making them think that they were out of time. If you're going against the beats and whatnot it doesn't mean you are playing out of time. Whenever a progression resolved Lane and Garsed resolved at the same time and none of them fucked up in any way shape or form. None of them slipped out of the pocket.
@Fluffypopcicle He wasn't "going against beats" as you call it.. In professional terms it is called "out of pocket" or "slipping out of time".. Either way I said it, I showed you down to the seconds where it was happening and why.. Like I said, I do not fault someone from dropping time live from time to time, that can happen to any of us.. But when you do it over and over again.. which he does.. Or when it is actually ON A TRACK, and he doesn't hear it and fix it? you are a novice at best..
Like I said, pointing out where something is doesn't mean anything. l can say "hey, 1:17 - 1:21 of this video is out of time" but l have to prove it. You can't prove it.
@Fluffypopcicle I did.. You are not at the level to be able to hear it... You are a novice.. I honestly do not mean that as a slam either Fluffy.. It is just something that I can tell by speaking with you.. There are players by the dozens in Nashville that are into Shawn Lane.. But they all have that same problem.. Even though they may have a major artist gig, they have issues with groove and time..
I can tell your a novice just by talking to you. I don't have to prove it, I just know it from experience I have gained. I don't have to prove this or even give out my name because you are supposed to believe me for no apparent reason. Oh, and novices are people who can play Frank Gambale's monster lick and alt. pick 24 nps on the guitar in time. Simple stuff like that you know.
@SuperGuitarman69 Both of you, shut it... Gambale's bands don't always play well. I've watched some videos where the band has no idea what to do and they're all in different places. IT'S OK... IT'S NOT METAL. RELAX.. IT'S NOT REHEARSED.
Continuing once more: you have less intelligence than Slash's left nut if you think that Gambale is the only guy on the planet that plays non-diatonic things over complicated key changes on time and fluently. Allan Holdsworth was doing that long before Gambale. Even Guthrie govan is a great example of somebody who plays challenging things non-diatonically over some good key changes. Your reasons for Gambale being so great are poppycock.
Puleeease. Lane IS superior? You mean was? That's not true even in the past tense. FG eats Lane's lunch every time. Surely you've heard them side by side on Centrifugal Funk. No contest. Frank's solos capture the imagination whereas Shawn Lane's are more an exercise in running scales. Frank would be the first to tell you that electric guitar isn't a competition...but if it were, he'd come out on top regardless of the competition. Shawn Lane was a great player...just not AS great.
@es347 You are 100% correct. Lane is technical which is very cool.. But he is limited. You are right about running scales too.. Gambale has phrasing and lines and technical skills. He is SOOOO incredibly musical. He is the best there is.. There is simply no getting around that. And it pisses me off because I play and I know there is someone like him out there. Like Good Wil Hunting except Frank is real.
mmmm gambale is amazing with those crazy sweeps. but i gotta say that bass line at 0:17 and how it enters is so smooth. never heard patitucci but he sounds awesome
with a little sarcasm i just have to say, the first part of teh video is like a yamaha advertisement;) everything on stage says yamaha on it...i guess maybe chick has yamaha sticker on his rhodes too;)
@88flex 88 Man if you practice his style, it might take you many many years to at least get a Close to perfection of his style. But if you'll practice this style, you won't notice a great progress in your playing. Of course your playing standards will level up if you will learn his technique. awesome player!
@shiwa048 what I'm after is learning how to tastefully solo over various chord progressions, without sounding like I'm stuck with just patterns and a tempo. I want the open world of music at my fingertips.
@88flex88 That comes with time. The best way I know how to practice, is you pick a certain chord. Say like a Dm, record you laying down a simple groove just only playing Dm. Then treat it as a Dorian modal idea then allow yourself to gradually experiment playing a bit outside and play rhythms in your line that really have nothing to do with diatonic theory. After a bit of time your personality will come out and you will start developing your own thing.
when i watch this video, i feel like i don't know how to play the guitar.. what a technique, one of a kind! i think he doesn't need any reverb or delay at all, notes are heard very clearly even with his sweeps. Damn! how i wish i could do that! very rare!
@shiwa048 lol i was just feeling the same way until I remember this guy is the reason i made such great progress in my playing due to his picking approach.
many poeple can say what they want, but it is always people that can't play that complain. if one can't do better then shut up, you wish you could play lol. I also love that you can hear each note he plays.
Oh response to his feel? He has incredible feel. I love it when weak players try to use Slash and guys like Jimi Hendrix and say that at least they play with feel. That is the biggest f.....n joke I've ever heard. I've seen Frank play simple tunes and sound incredible. Just once I'd love to see Slash try to play a solo on Got A Match. That would shut up alot of idiots.
There is no one that can make Gambale's technique and touch anywhere on this planet. Yes I love Holdsworth too. They are all masters. But I do this for a living. I can learn Holdsworth lines quickly and execute them easily. Frank? I just listen and wish I could do it. I know what he is doing theory wise and even exactly what he is playing. But can't emulate Frank. He is just to far advanced
I love his playing, but I hate that tone. Is it just me, or does franks bends sound not very good? it is so frustrating to me, because it is the only thing that ruins him for me.
I've met Frank Gambale many times and I've been his roadie for a few gigs. I've seen him play right in my face... like right in my face... and let me tell you... I just wanted to quit playing right there... i also wanted to cut his fingers off ...hahahaha...
very cool guy and the absolute best .... i've seen all the bigs live and Frank is technically the best...
you should not talk shit about great guitarist .no matters is there style metal jazz or funk...i listen to jazz and metal i love the freedom of jaz playing its flow man and crazy rythms but metal also its technic and speed sweeping and picking there many good guitarist out there (andy timmons-kiko loureiro-vinnie moore-steve vai-christoph godin-alex scholnick-guthrie govan....)
@fanqueen i don't wanna get bashed but those sweeps in the first solo didn't sound that good i mean everything else was flawless but i didn't like the sweeps at all...i think that the selkies the endless obsession solo by paul waggoner of between the buried and me sound superb...just my honest opinion...frank is a great player just imo not the best at sweeps..
@MisterMouthy Remember? He doesn't remember it, he makes it up as he goes. Such is jazz. He knows his chords, scales, and his personal licks by heart though, you can be sure of that.
Someone once said to me, "Frank Gambale is a way better guitarist than you. " And, my reply was, "I KNOW HE IS, AND HE'S ALSO BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE!"
Mestre gambale.Toca pra caralho!!!!!
Foi a única expressão que encontrei para definí-lo
albertogambirasio 3 weeks ago
shut the fuck up gambale (pis'd)
psychicmetalmonkey 3 weeks ago
Always battling who is the better and the best.... :(
elybuendia64 2 months ago
@elybuendia64 some guys kill music literally just by showing off and following bloody rules
psychicmetalmonkey 3 weeks ago
Why is Jerry Lewis playing keyboards?
cast390 3 months ago
Fuckin' beautiful. Perfect playing, too. To play something that requires as much skill as fusion, and to play it SO DAMN WELL and FLAWLESS...Mr. Gambale is beyond words.
NeoGodHand 4 months ago 2
in the realm of fusion, no one can touch him, except maybe holdsworth. it's so amazing that they recorded together.
bobbygoesbig 5 months ago
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!
danielepintaldi 5 months ago
Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
danielepintaldi 5 months ago
sharp!!!
luc0sugar1 5 months ago
Best site for these guitar dvds is search web for keyword: GoldmineGuitars
Giantsteps195 6 months ago
I know these guys are all amazing musicians, but this is what happens when you forget to make music enjoyable to listen to.
whyfuckwhenyoucaneat 6 months ago
@whyfuckwhenyoucaneat What you become the greatest players on the planet and guys who are amazing musicians as well will buy your records and listen to you for hours and sit in the rain to get a ticket like a kid going to see a Brittney Spears concert? Who cares if the masses do not get it... This music is for the advanced listener and player... It's like if a guy with a pilots license got to go flying with the Blue Angels.
SuperGuitarman69 6 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Typical answer from a typical jazz snob. By the way, I'm a jazz guitarist, so don't go accusing me of liking Brittany Spears. You dicks wear technical jazz as a badge, instead of just enjoying music. This is my point. This is purely a technical exercise in musical brilliance. it's not music. Most jazz musicians are blinded my skill, that they forget about what really makes music enjoyable. This is just so people can stroke their beards and tut at anyone who doesn't like it
whyfuckwhenyoucaneat 6 months ago
@whyfuckwhenyoucaneat No, it is an answer that honors these guys.. It isn't music? Says who? You? If you really want to go there then let's. You label me a jazz snob? No I just love Chick and the intensity in his music.. I actually get goose bumps when I hear it... So then let me analyze you then... From my experience whenever a player cannot do something another player can, they will label them technical players and say something about their feel etc... It is bred from jealousy. How do u likeit
SuperGuitarman69 6 months ago
Wow, you really turned that around on me, didn't you? Sorry, Jackass. I learn jazz because I want to become a better musician, so I can be more versatile. NOT so that I can use all of my technique and knowledge AT ONCE. Jazz snobs like yourself consider this music to be the pinnacle of all music. This is just an exhibition of musical prowess. Yes, they're brilliant. But any good musician knows that variety is what makes music great. This is full-bore, 100% technique without feel.
whyfuckwhenyoucaneat 6 months ago
And the fact that you guys get SO FUCKING UPSET any time someone comments negatively on these videos, betrays how you really feel about the genre. You know I actually have a point, and that bugs the shit out of you.
whyfuckwhenyoucaneat 6 months ago
@whyfuckwhenyoucaneat Without feel? Yeah exactly what someone says who cannot play like that... People without feel cannot play in time. Or have you not learned that yet... And if it bores you then why did you come to a page with Frank on it?? And oh another thing, Frank is absolutely one of the nicest guys you could ever meet.... He thinks in terms of musicality.. There would be nothing more insulting to him than you saying he plays without feeling.. That is the most insulting thing you've said
SuperGuitarman69 6 months ago
@whyfuckwhenyoucaneat Oh FYI I am not a jazz snob... I play music for a living and play fusion and/or jazz for fun.... I live in Nashville if that tells you anything... And I am the player I am today because of guys like Frank... I thank him for taking guitar to the highest level it has ever been mastered... If not for him and a handful of other guys I never would have became the player I am... If I would have stayed stuck on a Hendrix, Satriani, or Van Halen I would have never have learned
SuperGuitarman69 6 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
nah, shawn lane is still the pinnacle of guitar playing. if you can play everything shawn lane did then you can play the hardest stuff ever played on the guitar. there still is nobody that can play everything that he did.
FeedMeForiAmATroll 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Shawn is a decent player, but he is predictable and he plays straight up and down scales.. He isn't even in the conversation.. Sorry to tell you, but I actually play this instrument well.. Not tooting my own horn, but I know it inside out.. Gambale is the best.. He simply plays things that cannot be played.. Shawn god love his heart isn't even in the conversation in the least.. Sorry to burst your bubble there, but it is a fact..
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
that MUST have been a joke. up and down scales? predictable? watch?v=Wq2GqlFmNUk i trust guthrie govan, rusty cooley, buckethead, greg howe, jonas hellborg, michael angelo batio, and john petrucci's opinions over yours any day. fact my ass. you obviously have little to no experience on the guitar. saying "i can play the guitar well" does not entitle you to spew bull shit and go against actual guitar virtuoso opinions, now shut your stupid trap.
FeedMeForiAmATroll 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Guess what? I make more money playing guitar over any of those players.. And I am on the radio constantly.. I am recorded MORE than they are.. Yes my opinion is not only valued, it is proven.. And NO Shawn Lane is not in the conversation of Gambale.. In fact, dude, I KNOW Shawn.. He would be the first to tell you he isn't even in the league of a Frank Gambale.. And so would everyone you named..
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Guess what? I make more money playing guitar over any of those players.. And I am on the radio constantly.. I am recorded MORE than they are.. Yes my opinion is not only valued, it is proven.. And NO Shawn Lane is not in the conversation of Gambale.. In fact, dude, I KNOW Shawn.. He would be the first to tell you he isn't even in the league of a Frank Gambale.. And so would everyone you named..
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
SHAWN LANE IS DEAD YOU FUCKING DUMBASS!!! you just proved that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are a compulsive liar. everyone i named? that's funny because buckethead said that shawn lane was the greatest guitarist ever, rusty cooley said that shawn was the pinnacle of guitar playing, greg howe said that shawn didn't influence him because he couldn't understand what he was doing, and pg called him the most terrifying guy on the planet. dumbass.
FeedMeForiAmATroll 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll I was on a tour with Shawn in 2000 through 2001, we did a total of 20 dates together.. My band and his thing with others on the bill.. Yes I know Shawn.. I would have NEVER have said that he was better than Gambale.. Or hell me even.. He just isn't that type of person.. Only dumbass troll wanna be guitar players like you will troll and give your worthless opinions on who is better than who.. And this is coming FROM A FUCKING PRO.. Gambale is the best player in the worldPeriod
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
empty words. you're clearly all talk. you have no proof that you have done any of the things you have said. you don't even give your name. and once again, you fail if you think you have an opinion on this when you apparently did the shitty guitar work for taylor swift. you're one professional who's work (if it even exists) is far from virtuosic. an incredible amount of true virtuosos disagree with you. money doesn't mean shit either.
FeedMeForiAmATroll 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Lol.. It's all good.. You like whoever you want.. And as far as virtuoso goes.. you know who I am you just don't know.. And I am not going to have someone with troll in your screen name following me around.. And fyi, I am all over youtube
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
there is absolutely no reason to believe that you have done anything special if you can't even give away your name. i know people way more all over youtube than you who disagree with you so i don't see what your point is. the fact is that the rest of the professional guitar world disagrees with you. everybody from rusty cooley to greg howe to paul gilbert to michael angelo batio to buckethead. if fame matters and you're that famous then you are apparently better than gambale.
FeedMeForiAmATroll 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll You are naming rock players.. Players who have technique (well Paul has very very good technique) but they are not playing difficult music.. They are playing diatonic music.. They are not playing over complicated chord changes that are switching literally every beat. They are not called upon to test their theoretical knowledge in milliseconds. Even in technique, with the exception of Gilbert (cooley is fair) Gambale is far superior. He is cleaner, more complex, and Part 1
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll he plays every single note with hardly ever any pulls offs, hammer ons or sliding.. Let me put it to you another way.. I started learning guitar by listening to the typical Howe, Morse, Van Halen etc.. Then became a Gilbert fan (in regards to learning) then I heard Gambale.. There isn't anything that those guys played that I couldn't play.. I am 42 years old and I STILL cannot play like Frank. He is simply the best, that is NOT an opinion. It is a fact. And buckethead? please
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Oh and another thing... Gambale is actually musical.. That is another big part of it.. He isn't running scales.. I would choose Howe over really any of those other guys.. Because playing up and down diatonic patterns at 190 really isn't impressive to me.. Not since I was able to do that at 17.. After I learned how to pick that fast it wasn't impressive.. It was only Gambale who stumped me. With his lines, and his execution. To this day, I still have a hell of a time with it.
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@FeedMeForiAmATroll Oh and ONE MORE thing.. There are people (kids for goodness sake) all over youtube that can play like all the rock shredders.. It simply isn't that difficult.. But go looking to see Gambale clones at any age... They don't exist.. Chick Corea writes the most complicated music on earth bar none. And Chick has worked with the best musicians that ever lived. He would NEVER hire anyone you mentioned. Why? because they simply cannot pull off the gig.
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
really? buckethead plays over 20 genres, rusty cooley is an extremely advanced neo-classical guitar player, greg howe is just plain tasty, paul gilbert is highly technical and plays his fair of genres (not just rock), michael angelo batio started his career with jazz gigs etc. the more you open your mouth the more retarded you look. your complete lack of knowledge is a pain in the ass.
FeedMeForiAmATroll 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
continuing: an extremely hilarious thing you said is say that paul gilbert is the only one that isn't far surpassed by gambale when he has even said in this interview watch?v=7Hux7r7FlXk that shawn was the most terrifying guy on the planet and paul had to resort to tapping to get anywhere near shawn lane speeds and stretches. there also NO shawn lane clones. plenty have tried, all have epically failed.
FeedMeForiAmATroll 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
watch?v=WhTHxkIllvU
Since when has Gambale done anything near that challenging? He hasn't. There are a handful of guitarists better than Gambale in the technical department. Shawn Lane, Marshall Harrison, Tosin Abasi, Allan Holdsworth, Rusty Cooley, Kiko Loureiro etc. You're a nutcase if you expect people to believe that you are as credible as you say. Your channel revolves entirely around politics, not music.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle That isn't my only channel.. My other one I would not use to give my opinions on and there is a good reason why. I have lived in Nashville for years and am well known in circles, jazz, country and bluegrass.. My actual close friends may know my opinions but not those that know me from guitar only... And those you mentioned are really great players.. But they are not Gambale.. A lot of rock only guys always throw them out.. They just are not at the level to be in that convo. Sorry
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle I find that most rock players do not understand music completely.. I have witnessed this.. They are great at shredding up and down scales in sequences.. And it is cool no doubt.. But not difficult. It just requires a lot of time to get it clean enough and fast enough.. But it isn't impossible.. There are kids all over youtube doing it.. Frank is not only playing technically and theoretically the most advanced stuff, he is doing it musically without the use of sequencing.
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
You don't understand music at all. Shawn wasn't a rock player in his later days first of all and neither am I (I play lots of things, but I mainly play technical metal and jazz). Shawn plays jazz fusion and indian music which btw is much more complicated than what Gambale does. Second of all, he isn't up and down. Shawn's playing is much more complicated than that. Thirdly, I can play almost all of Gambale's material. I don't see why you think he is so damn technical, he isn't.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle Oh and you can play what Gambale plays? I've been playing for over 30 years and I can't... So you conceded prick.. You wanna save face? Get your camera, learn one of his solos, our post enough of you playing like Gambale and POST IT! Prove it you wanna be idiot
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle You've been called out.... Bet I never hear from you nor see it!
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
You little fuckwad, YOU'RE TIM HALCOMB!!! You're file name, the ridiculous claims about yourself that are blatantly not a true, and I saw one of your files trolling a Guthrie Govan video and talking about how great Gambale is. Wow, I can't believe I wasted my time with you. Stupid douche.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle Who the hell is Tim Halomb? I've never even heard of him, so no strike one. And you are unwilling to listen to what I am saying, you want to really understand it? Try sitting down, learning Charlie Parkers Donna Lee, or Coltranes Giant Steps.Play it at 150, THEN learn Got A Match by Chick Corea.. THEN learn and play note for note ANY solo that Gambale played on youtube.. ANY of them.. Then learn a solo from asn't you named and post the Gambale solo on youtube. I'm wasting MY time
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle I popped over to your channel.. Yeah I figured you out... Good luck trying to play coherently
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
When I get a decent camera I will post a cover. However, in the time being since you're so damn good why don't you post a cover of that Shawn Lane link I sent? Good luck with that. I assumed you were halcomb (I still think you are) because you have guitar, man, and an inappropriate number in your file name. Sounds just like a halcomb account. Oh, and good luck "figuring me out" based on my channel. With all the music I listen to that is literally 100% impossible.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Oh, and it's not how long you have been playing it's what you have been doing with that time. If you can't play all of Gambale's stuff after 40 years you must have been practicing those taylor swift power chords that you supposedly wrote for her for 4 decades. You're a joke. Trying to convince people that you are credible based on literally no evidence whatsoever would never hold up in an actual debate. You're a disgrace to the guitar community in many ways.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle You are a wanna be.. I played on Taylor Swift records yes, but also on Bela records, and Victors stuff as well as Weckl years back at his clinics and shows, also played on Branfords new soundtrack thing but not sure when that will come out.. Secondly, I know this instrument inside out.. I've been playing forever, I am well known (unlike you) and am well respected. However, I do not engage in who is better than who in polite conversation.. I am too well known and that Part 1
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle isn't a politically correct thing to do.. I have told Frank many times that I felt that way.. He appreciates it, but is a very humble guy.. Some of my peers include Brent Mason, Tommy Emanuel etc.. And Al didn't play with the electric band.. The most complicated music ever recorded.. And sorry sport, I've played it all, including playing with Chick on a few things here in Nashville.. So I know the music well.. And let's test your so called knowledge shall we? I know you Part 2
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle you can look all of it up on the internet.. But let's challenge you to do so, it is 12:20 here so let's see how quick you are.. How would you approach scale choices over these chord changes in the key of C.. C min7 / A7 (#5b9) / Eb maj13 / Ab 13(b9) / G min7 / C 11 / F maj7 (#11) / Bb 13 (#11)... Tell me how you approach playing over those changes SPORT
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
That isn't part of the argument. That's musical knowledge, not technical knowledge if you know what I mean. I could answer the question, but that's irrelevant. Right now I'm learning a Frank Gambale "monster lick" which i will eventually post once I get my friend to record me. Any experienced guitar player knows that playing 8 fret augmented stretch tricky patterns all across the fretboard while picking 18 nps is harder than any sweeping or anything Gambale does.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
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@SuperGuitarman69
That isn't part of the argument. That's musical knowledge, not technical knowledge if you know what I mean. I could answer the question, but that's irrelevant. Right now I'm learning a Frank Gambale "monster lick" which i will eventually post once I get my friend to record me. Any experienced guitar player knows that playing 8 fret augmented stretch tricky patterns all across the fretboard while picking 18 nps is harder than any sweeping or anything Gambale does.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Oh, and one last thing. You act as if Gambale is the only guitarist that can possibly play with Chick Corea, but Paco De Lucia, Bill Connors, Earl Klugh, and of course Al Di Meola.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle ???? hmmmm....
SuperGuitarman69 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Whoops, I didn't finish the sentence. All of those other guitarists have played with Chick Corea. And btw I'm half-way done with that monster lick and i would be finished if I weren't so damn lazy. My band is having a gig next week and we always post stuff from our gigs. I'm probably just going to play the monster lick there.
Fluffypopcicle 4 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Well, here you go:
watch?v=FZBul26-RZ4
watch?v=bnUfdtUT4rE
None of those are me. I probably won't get around to posting videos any time soon so I just decided to find guys that could play some of the most complicated Gambale material. Gambale's stuff is not impossible to play. The hardest things on the guitar known to man are things done by Shawn Lane and the current world record guitar speed (FOTB at 600 bpm).
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle No sorry.. They did a good job coping a little bit of his stuff, but they cannot play that way, otherwise they would have been improvising over something and not playing something they learned.. Plus it wasn't clean, it was a touch sloppy, I can do that as an imitation.. And no, playing flight of the bumble bee is not exactly something amazing.. Like I told you, listen to what is above here, then realize that that is musical and WAY more complicated than playing over Em.
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Playing FOTB isn't amazing, but playing it at 40 nps is mind-blowing. If your logic is "since there aren't any people that have the exact same style as Frank Gambale then that makes Frank Gambale the best guitarist ever" then you need to plug your brain in if you have one. The first link was just a tad sloppy, but the second link was flawless. He just had a bad tone.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle i don't think you understand or get it.. It isn't complicated to play diatonic (same scale over a group or changes)... It comes down to sequences and patterns.. It is far more complicated to play over changes that are coming at you twice in a measure.. Not only play over them, but musically, in time, and as fast and clean Gambale does.. Plus he sounds exactly the same with a clean tone, or acoustically.. Shawn cannot do either..
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Okay, first of all that was a bull shit statement. All Shawn said was that "I regret revolving around speed so much in my earlier years." You're full of shit. If you're so damn good at the instrument then prove it. True professionals have made it very clear how highly they think of Shawn Lane. Shawn is far from a diatonic player. You are completely mental for thinking that he is. He was anti-diatonic in any stage of his career.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Continuing: "It comes down to sequences and patterns" which Shawn kicked ass with. Shawn played extremely complicated things when it came to "patterns." He had extremely weird groupings that are ludicrously hard to pull off and he played them at speeds that far surpass Gambale's. On top of that it was CLEAN. He could keep in perfect time with picking watch?v=Wq2GqlFmNUk he just plays very odd patterns doing it so a retard such as yourself doesn't realize it.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle Also, as I have stated numerous times.. I think my judgement on this subject comes from one who actually knows music and the instrument itself.. I've known of Shawn Lane for years.. It wasn't until the very very end when he actually started trying to be a "real" player.. By his own admission.. He couldn't keep in time with picking when he actually tried to start playing the correct scales over real chord changes.. So he went to a more Holdsworth style.. Legato.. No technique P2
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle actually... He simply couldn't pull it off.. There are several videos on here that show that.. I actually PREFER that playing over him playing nonsense and eluding to it as being "outside".. He knew later in life that he was full of shit, first off you need to actually understand what you are playing in theoretical terms and hearing it before you can say you know what is "outside". Once he did that he became more of a complete player, but NOT before that..
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Continuing again: you have a very poor understanding of what playing "outside" means. Playing outside means playing out of key momentarily for tension and then coming backing back in key for a nice release. It's something used a lot in jazz and fusion. Shawn used augmented patterns and crazy stretches to create these outside sounds. Hell, he made them sound so good that they occasionally didn't even create that tension.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle Okay, lol, so you think you understand what "outside means?" Let me ask (and I've a theoretical musical term to you before) Find Fred by Alan Holdsworth.. What I want you to do is figure out every single chord, and then tell me what not only what the chord is, but also the scale choice on each chord but what you think 'outside" actually is.
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Outside_%28jazz%29 like I said you douche. I don't have to go through that shit to know the definition of something. That's like telling somebody to prove that they know what the aeolian mode is by pointing out every time a jazz guitarist uses it, it's stupid and pointless.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle You cannot play random shapes and call it "outside".. It doesn't work that way... It has to be done musically.. Shawn (at least not til the end) didn't understand.. But I know that he was on a track with Gambale and made the comment that he has a lot to learn about the guitar after that... Guess he started his learning process after that.. It's one thing to attempt to play fusion, completely different to actually play it..
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Yes you can. Outside means outside of the key. If you aren't playing in key then you are playing outside, period. Now whether it sounds good or not is the important thing and "sounds good" is subjective. Kirk hammett plays outside a lot and I think he sounds like shit whenever he does (I think he sounds like shit in general), but some people like it. You're arguing apples and oranges here. I would like a link to where Shawn said that.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle Well to be honest, I read it in a conversation that I was not a part of on youtube.. It was pertaining to the track he was on with Gambale.. It was obvious he wasn't as locked in and as musical as Gambale.. Which isn't fair.. Gambale NEVER misses. If he plays it? You can hear it as perfection.. On that track Shawn was playing a touch out of time, and even used some improper scale choices which I heard.. But like I said, by now? He would have been a monster.
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
"He would have been a monster." His nickname was The Memphis Monster and rightfully so. If you can't bring any support to back up these claims (a link doesn't mean just youtube links, if he said that on record then you can go find it and prove he said that), but until then you are spewing bull shit.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Continuing: your reasons for Gambale being so special are bull shit. There aren't any Gambale clones, but hardly anybody has tried to be. There have been countless people that have tied to be a Shawn Lane copy and they have all failed epically. Buckethead and Paul Gilbert and to resort to tapping, Rusty Cooley had to resort to legato and dumb down Shawn's licks, Guthrie doesn't come close etc. nobody has come REMOTELY close to Shawn.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Continuing again: the conversation of what somebody can play or not does not, and should never refer to playing in somebody's style. It refers to being able to play everything the other person plays as in covering their material. Those links I sent you were perfect. The monster lick one had 3 sour notes or so, but the other one is perfect. When you can find somebody that can cover this watch?v=WhTHxkIllvU then you win.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle And therein lies the truth.. I went to your link.. Yeah, do you get why I say what I say now? Exactly what I was talking about.. A bunch of symmetrical sequential nonsense at warp speed out of time.. The fact that you cannot hear that and that because he is playing with so much distortion and delay with random shapes not based on anything says it all.. There is nothing musical about that.. I would rather see him try to play over Margaritaville than that.. See if he has any time..
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
There are no chord progressions that he was playing over so there wasn't a given key, it was all improv and following the drums was not a necessity here, and he wasn't using all sequencing. You also seriously contradict yourself there. You say there is no sequencing yet you say that there are no specific shapes and it wasn't based on anything implying the complete exclusion of sequencing. Do you even know what sequencing is? I doubt it.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Continuing: even if he was using sequencing (he did at times, but it was far from all sequencing), there is nothing with sequencing. Sequencing is the basis for a lot of classical stuff. Vivaldi in particular. If you think Vivaldi made bad music then you don't have the right to judge lil wayne. That was also a partly memorized improv. He did that stuff multiple times when playing not again and the argument here is about technical ability, not musicality.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle I already sent you a PM analyzing each solo on the Lane Garsed Gambale track.. Critically.. Giving credit where it was due, and showing you the things that needed to be fixed.. Proving to you that technical ability starts and ends first and foremost about time.. So that IS technical ability.. If you want to talk about that? Then Cooley has a much better grasp (for the most part) that.. At least before the real fast stuff..
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Staying on time is a musical aspect. Are you trying to tell me that playing in meters of 11/8 7/4 9/16 and 5/4 makes you a technical guitar player? No, it doesn't. If time matters so much then Meshuggah and Dream Theater shit all over Gambale in that aspect. If playing fluently over complicated chord progressions matters then Holdsworth shits all over Gambale. You're not special for not using sequencing either. Gambale is special for inventing sweep picking. That is ALL!!!
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle It isn't playing in poly rhythms that is the measure of greatness.. It is time.. Plain and simple.. Every student I have ever had, I have told them first and foremost before any mind blowing chop you may have, you have to learn time, then you must learn how to groove the time.. So to the listener they can get it.. It is paramount to any player being worth a shit.. After that? Tone, touch, technique, and knowledge.. all of which makes a great player.. Out of time is out of time,
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
You absolutely fail to grasp the many concepts of playing on time. I have no further of speaking considering you think polymeters is an off time theory and don't even think they exist. When I say polyemeter I mean polymeter, not polyrhythm. Your last pm was unbelievably stupid.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle Yeah you polymeter is the same exact thing as polyrhythm.. It doesn't mean that you can play out of time.. Look it up you excuse making weasel. Time is time is time.. Either something is in time or it isn't.. either you are playing a stream of notes that lock to time and pocket, or you are playing gibberish.. Which there are tons and tons and tons of players on here doing that.. Turn on your metronome and play straight up and down the major scale at 150 in 16ths. Then Part 1
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle Part 2.. play as fast as you can with the metronome on with no regards to time and pocket.. You will find that it is gibberish and easy, and sounds like shit...
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Polymeters and polyrhythms are 2 different things. Stop making a fool of yourself and just stop responding timmy.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle You moron.. I am trying to teach you something here.. You can continue to be the best player in your basement, or actually listen to someone who is a real player who explaining to you the importance of time and pocket.. If you look in wikipedia it will tell you Polymeters see Polyrhythms.. So understand something.. If you EVER want to leave your job at UPS you had better start listening to professional players.. You were wrong about that and my name IS NOT TIMMY YOU IDIOT
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
I was going to send you to wikipedia too. Apparently you can't read. A polyrhythm is all in the same time signature. the rhythm is ever conflicting though because you can play a set of 3s in 3/4 and set of 2s at the same time. It sounds strange, but it's the same time signature. Polymeters are at least 2 DIFFERENT time signatures going on at once. polymeters resolve, polyrhythms don't.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle Here is your lesson for the day.. Polymeters resolve? correct.. very good.. You play a phrase over let's say 5 and it takes 4 measures to resolve the entire phrase back to 1.. Very good you understand that.. But that is NOT what lane was doing.. He wasn't playing a "polymeter" He lost control of time.. Polymeter does NOT lose groove and time.. It does not sound strange to the ear.. Losing time means you slipped out of the pocket.. Which is exactly what he was doing..
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
I never said he did you fucking retard. He wasn't using polyrhythms, or polymeters, or any of that, it was goddamn example of how you can deceive people in making them think that they were out of time. If you're going against the beats and whatnot it doesn't mean you are playing out of time. Whenever a progression resolved Lane and Garsed resolved at the same time and none of them fucked up in any way shape or form. None of them slipped out of the pocket.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle He wasn't "going against beats" as you call it.. In professional terms it is called "out of pocket" or "slipping out of time".. Either way I said it, I showed you down to the seconds where it was happening and why.. Like I said, I do not fault someone from dropping time live from time to time, that can happen to any of us.. But when you do it over and over again.. which he does.. Or when it is actually ON A TRACK, and he doesn't hear it and fix it? you are a novice at best..
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Like I said, pointing out where something is doesn't mean anything. l can say "hey, 1:17 - 1:21 of this video is out of time" but l have to prove it. You can't prove it.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@Fluffypopcicle I did.. You are not at the level to be able to hear it... You are a novice.. I honestly do not mean that as a slam either Fluffy.. It is just something that I can tell by speaking with you.. There are players by the dozens in Nashville that are into Shawn Lane.. But they all have that same problem.. Even though they may have a major artist gig, they have issues with groove and time..
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago
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@SuperGuitarman69
I can tell your a novice just by talking to you. I don't have to prove it, I just know it from experience I have gained. I don't have to prove this or even give out my name because you are supposed to believe me for no apparent reason. Oh, and novices are people who can play Frank Gambale's monster lick and alt. pick 24 nps on the guitar in time. Simple stuff like that you know.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Both of you, shut it... Gambale's bands don't always play well. I've watched some videos where the band has no idea what to do and they're all in different places. IT'S OK... IT'S NOT METAL. RELAX.. IT'S NOT REHEARSED.
bryanappleg8te 2 months ago
@bryanappleg8te Yeah uh huh
SuperGuitarman69 2 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Continuing once more: you have less intelligence than Slash's left nut if you think that Gambale is the only guy on the planet that plays non-diatonic things over complicated key changes on time and fluently. Allan Holdsworth was doing that long before Gambale. Even Guthrie govan is a great example of somebody who plays challenging things non-diatonically over some good key changes. Your reasons for Gambale being so great are poppycock.
Fluffypopcicle 3 months ago
Puleeease. Lane IS superior? You mean was? That's not true even in the past tense. FG eats Lane's lunch every time. Surely you've heard them side by side on Centrifugal Funk. No contest. Frank's solos capture the imagination whereas Shawn Lane's are more an exercise in running scales. Frank would be the first to tell you that electric guitar isn't a competition...but if it were, he'd come out on top regardless of the competition. Shawn Lane was a great player...just not AS great.
es347 6 months ago
@es347 You are 100% correct. Lane is technical which is very cool.. But he is limited. You are right about running scales too.. Gambale has phrasing and lines and technical skills. He is SOOOO incredibly musical. He is the best there is.. There is simply no getting around that. And it pisses me off because I play and I know there is someone like him out there. Like Good Wil Hunting except Frank is real.
SuperGuitarman69 6 months ago
I love the bass players attitude!
jazzattak 7 months ago
mmmm gambale is amazing with those crazy sweeps. but i gotta say that bass line at 0:17 and how it enters is so smooth. never heard patitucci but he sounds awesome
Xioaxioa10 7 months ago
omg did he just sweep that whole thing like it was no big deal?
New to gambale, new to this way of soiling my pants!
great guy
Pierceher 8 months ago
Uncle fester rocking down the house!!!!!!!
pootrap 8 months ago
what song is at 7:00?
KieranRocksOut 9 months ago
This is great! I never realized he had compensated/true temperament frets 1 and 2
GuillermoSmyser 9 months ago
best guitarist ever !!!!!!
chevrolet112 9 months ago
It's the bass player from Chris Poland's Ohm! That dude is SICK!!
zzlong55 10 months ago
This guy puts the jam in "pajamas"
MrFluffay 10 months ago
This gy pts the jam in "pajamas"
MrFluffay 10 months ago
He's a very " economic " guitar , small moving, great sounding...
All about his guitar tech are on this way.
Bravo !!!
hardspecialist 10 months ago
3:10. Chick Corea is all "that nigga crazy".
alexmortland 11 months ago 4
A new G3 including Frank Gambale! YEAH!!!! That would be so AWESOME!
BenPilon 11 months ago
is that jerry lewis on keyboards?
jellynips 11 months ago
great frank!!! the most modern guitar player in the world!!!
fullmetaljazz63 11 months ago
with a little sarcasm i just have to say, the first part of teh video is like a yamaha advertisement;) everything on stage says yamaha on it...i guess maybe chick has yamaha sticker on his rhodes too;)
love it anyway;)
quicknic1982 11 months ago
RAAAAAAPEEEEEEE!!!
TheLuaron 1 year ago
Frank is the best guitarist in the world. Hands down. intune1234 is correct.
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
When John Petrucci plays like Frank,people say ''he plays without feelings''.....Clichè.
JasonBecker85 1 year ago
@JasonBecker85 If John Petrucci even dreams about playing like Frank, he better wake up and apologize.
Apologies to Mr. White for the quote.
davidmmcg 1 year ago 3
Sick Sweeps
sAK47rament0 1 year ago
bass player is on drugs!
TheMusicBot 1 year ago 5
top stuff!
Acutones 1 year ago
Sounds a bit like Frank Zappa...
MegaYoshitsune 1 year ago
sounds like a bunch of cats in a bad car accident.
uutooyu 1 year ago
GAMBALE IS WHY I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING ! !
bitcheznhos 1 year ago 14
@bitcheznhos That and an enlarged prostate..
es347 6 months ago
@bitcheznhos Hahaha, great comment!
fanqueen 5 months ago
@88flex 88 Man if you practice his style, it might take you many many years to at least get a Close to perfection of his style. But if you'll practice this style, you won't notice a great progress in your playing. Of course your playing standards will level up if you will learn his technique. awesome player!
shiwa048 1 year ago
@shiwa048 what I'm after is learning how to tastefully solo over various chord progressions, without sounding like I'm stuck with just patterns and a tempo. I want the open world of music at my fingertips.
88flex88 1 year ago
@88flex88 That comes with time. The best way I know how to practice, is you pick a certain chord. Say like a Dm, record you laying down a simple groove just only playing Dm. Then treat it as a Dorian modal idea then allow yourself to gradually experiment playing a bit outside and play rhythms in your line that really have nothing to do with diatonic theory. After a bit of time your personality will come out and you will start developing your own thing.
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
when i watch this video, i feel like i don't know how to play the guitar.. what a technique, one of a kind! i think he doesn't need any reverb or delay at all, notes are heard very clearly even with his sweeps. Damn! how i wish i could do that! very rare!
shiwa048 1 year ago
@shiwa048 lol i was just feeling the same way until I remember this guy is the reason i made such great progress in my playing due to his picking approach.
many poeple can say what they want, but it is always people that can't play that complain. if one can't do better then shut up, you wish you could play lol. I also love that you can hear each note he plays.
88flex88 1 year ago
Oh response to his feel? He has incredible feel. I love it when weak players try to use Slash and guys like Jimi Hendrix and say that at least they play with feel. That is the biggest f.....n joke I've ever heard. I've seen Frank play simple tunes and sound incredible. Just once I'd love to see Slash try to play a solo on Got A Match. That would shut up alot of idiots.
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago 3
There is no one that can make Gambale's technique and touch anywhere on this planet. Yes I love Holdsworth too. They are all masters. But I do this for a living. I can learn Holdsworth lines quickly and execute them easily. Frank? I just listen and wish I could do it. I know what he is doing theory wise and even exactly what he is playing. But can't emulate Frank. He is just to far advanced
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 i think exactly the same man!!
and dont bother trying to explain "slash stuff" everybody knows hahha
regards
guitarralaraja 1 year ago
@guitarralaraja You caught me on here. You a player?
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
@SuperGuitarman69 yep i am.
i love metal but i admire these guyz a lot.
they are very experienced =)
regards from chile.
guitarralaraja 1 year ago
The best by a mile.
localpm 1 year ago
By the look on Chic's face "Jesus, that guy can play!"
eric1love 1 year ago
I love his playing, but I hate that tone. Is it just me, or does franks bends sound not very good? it is so frustrating to me, because it is the only thing that ruins him for me.
tastefulphrasing 1 year ago
the only problem is his old 80's style guitar tone,,,,too digital too articial
marcelcelmar 1 year ago
god
athuojp 1 year ago
chick is great, seen him live with the electrik band and as part of a trio.
BigAl21472 1 year ago
Frank is a genius, a master, the LORD of Guitar! I've never seen anyone who I think is as good. Sorry folks, but FRANK IS STILL THE BEST!
guitarttimman 1 year ago
@guitarttimman guthrie govan....
ShredFever92 1 year ago
@ShredFever92
everyone has their own opinion.
Guthrie is remarkable no doubt. But he doesn't beat Gambale in this style. No way!
guitarttimman 1 year ago
@guitarttimman
especially starting at 1:39
guitarttimman 1 year ago
Who has the greatest chops? Gambale or Holdsworth???
beerdeddi 1 year ago
@beerdeddi
Gambale
guitarttimman 1 year ago
guitar looks like a marshmallow. but sounds far better.
maebeach 1 year ago
@gleucoma dude if you don't like metal just don't comment.
Metal,Blues,Rock,Melodic metal,Progressive,Rock are all music styles.
If you dont like a style just dont spit shit out man.
It like to say:"Math is best than Science"
Everyone have opinions say that metal is easy b4 hear Mickael Thomson playin
Just sit down and hear the good jazz.
Suikou223 1 year ago
I've met Frank Gambale many times and I've been his roadie for a few gigs. I've seen him play right in my face... like right in my face... and let me tell you... I just wanted to quit playing right there... i also wanted to cut his fingers off ...hahahaha...
very cool guy and the absolute best .... i've seen all the bigs live and Frank is technically the best...
KujoKane 1 year ago
you should not talk shit about great guitarist .no matters is there style metal jazz or funk...i listen to jazz and metal i love the freedom of jaz playing its flow man and crazy rythms but metal also its technic and speed sweeping and picking there many good guitarist out there (andy timmons-kiko loureiro-vinnie moore-steve vai-christoph godin-alex scholnick-guthrie govan....)
metalstylex 1 year ago
HOLY SHIT shredding to the max man!
mymama12314 1 year ago
why people take so seriously my coment? I know it's annoying that's the intention xD
gleucoma 1 year ago
chick corea got sick on that keytar
sachary 1 year ago
He's the best guitarist who's ever played the instrument. Just my opinion.
intune1234 1 year ago 21
@intune1234 I personally think Allan Holdsworth is better
MrUsedBooks 1 year ago
@intune1234 Shawn lane bro, Shawn lane.....
tryank12 9 months ago 8
@tryank12 Thanks tryank, you know Franks is so precise...he could have been a great surgeon with those hands LOL!
intune1234 9 months ago
@intune1234
Lane is superior to Gambale.
Greater musical range, superior tone and sensibility.
Easleytee 7 months ago
Oh man I wanted to see Chick's solo
bungholio80 1 year ago
i've transcribed the first solo...oh man he's crazy
jayasslee 1 year ago
I guess tabs are out of the question?
Munchies56 1 year ago
This is simply amazing, there are great pickers and then there's Gambale. My soul.
Gtrmaestro 1 year ago
You should hear this guy play rock. OMG !!! He's on a CD called Big Franklin and he shreds to the max.
racer500gp 1 year ago
The best sweep picker of all times!
fanqueen 1 year ago
@fanqueen i don't wanna get bashed but those sweeps in the first solo didn't sound that good i mean everything else was flawless but i didn't like the sweeps at all...i think that the selkies the endless obsession solo by paul waggoner of between the buried and me sound superb...just my honest opinion...frank is a great player just imo not the best at sweeps..
bebop0409 1 year ago
@bebop0409 Well thats your opinion and I respect it, however, I dont agree.
fanqueen 1 year ago
che rottura di coglioni sta musica!
Nugent81 1 year ago
This style without doubt requires the ultimate in electric guitar virtuosity but Blues, Rock & Metal are more melodic.
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Frank Gamble is and always will be one of the greats of all time.
dirtydonki 1 year ago
starting at 1:40 is nothing short of a "GUITAR MIRACLE"
How in the world does he remember all that?
MisterMouthy 1 year ago
@MisterMouthy Remember? He doesn't remember it, he makes it up as he goes. Such is jazz. He knows his chords, scales, and his personal licks by heart though, you can be sure of that.
PsychosisGnome 1 year ago
Someone once said to me, "Frank Gambale is a way better guitarist than you. " And, my reply was, "I KNOW HE IS, AND HE'S ALSO BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE!"
guitarttimman 1 year ago 2
ONLY Frank Gambale can play like that so any haters better learn to face it! :-)
MisterMouthy 1 year ago