Alex Jones & Jason Bermas debunk the BBC WTC7 piece 2 of 2

[xFogxofxWarx]

@rockermanmatt That's not true....there are plenty of other things the Truthers can do: They can call you a government agent, they can say that the physical evidence and scientific data that proves them wrong is lies. They can claim Osama bin Laden is some random guy named "Tim Osman"....and they can shout lies at people while calling them blind idiots.

[xFogxofxWarx]

So when does Alex Jones get into debunking his own shoddy work???

[playadominical]

Bermas really needs a blow job, or to get a hobby. He just looks ridiculous.

[TheLegendkiller2100]

@playadominical o_O?

[MrrGrave]

RBE asap!

[bERTRANDTUBE]

Wow there's a turd, sorry, third idiot next to Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery in the name of Alex Jones. And he's even more obnoxious! If I didn't knew any better, I'd think Americans' first purpose in life is to be a public idiot. Luckily most Americans have better morals and ethics than these three.

[daraghkinch]

@bERTRANDTUBE I agree he does often come across pretty damn obnoxiously, but such subjective details have no relevance in the matter of compiling objective evidence, which is all that an investigation should be. Sweeping generalisations about the "ethics" and "morals" of "most Americans" are an admission of prejudice and a mind closed to what objective evidence may reveal.

THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK! That is the overall point in a nutshell.

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ROWTERS. haha

[endsequence]

Did he just pronounce Reuters, as "rowters"?  Cute.

[barquedust]

i'm not sure that has much to do with anything. people mispronounce things all the time.

[endsequence]

Reuters is far too common a journalistic institution, that any respectable, well researched journalist or analyst knows the correct pronunciation. He's clearly a pseudo-intellectual who avoids perfectly credible institutions simply because they don't align with his own dogmatic conspiracies -- he's not objective enough to find himself coming across Reuters material in any meaningful way.

[barquedust]

I know several people from Canada and Minnesota who say "aboot" for "about". Many people pronounce  "caramel", "carmul". Is is Katherine "Zeeta", "Zata", "Zedda" Jones?

People pronounce things differently than you. Now, if you make points as to his information being wrong and you show a source, now we've got a comment worth reading. You ought not reduce your argument to personal attacks, but would stand much stronger showing evidence that refutes his points.

[barquedust]

You could have made an equally valuable contribution to the argument by just calling him a dumb dumb.

[endsequence]

Stop being the devil's advocate. It's not sounding intelligent at all.

[barquedust]

Okay, I'm sorry. I'll try to be better. I'll try harder. Please forgive me. Your comments were great and I learned a whole bunch. Thanks.

[endsequence]

Yeah, because you're not getting the point: He has admitted during that time to only JUST find out about Reuters, yet he's an expert on them -- all the while mispronouncing their name because he spends more time on Prison Planet than anything else. It says a lot -- if you know how to observe that kind of analytical style he has. He's a pseudo-intellectual, but keep on trying to make this about "nuclear" vs "nucular" sir.

[endsequence]

You're just rampantly missing the context of this entire piece.

[barquedust]

There is a whole nation full of people like him. They don't have all the answers. Why do you assume that everyone who has concerns for our country, who voices their opinions, who is trying to do their part the best way they know how must, of necessity, hold a PhD, be an expert in a particular scientific field or be an "intillectual"? There are many who rely on the valid testimony of such people. Your remarks are condescending and arrogantly elitist. He has just as much right to speak as you.

[barquedust]

In my opinion, there are many people like him who are trying to do, what they believe to be the right thing. At least they aren't just making snide comments on YT and presumptuously casting condemnation without contributing. You must be a political speech writer by trade. You seem to possess the inclination to slander, pick at weak points and avoid any real progress by focusing on inane, insignificant things like the pronunciation of words.

When did he claim to be an expert on Reuters?

[barquedust]

I'm not a particular fan of either Jason Bermas OR Alex Jones, but all of these "pseudo-intellectuals" sitting here on YT spewing pointless drivel day after day is far worse. This country used to be full of people who were eager to leave their own comforts and environments in order to defend and fight for what they believed in. This appears to be a very rare quality in our country now days. It is so much easier to sit in front of a computer and produce vacuous statements every day.

[barquedust]

I must, at least, applaud Bermas for doing something about what he believes in. His dialogue at least has points. He is producing information for your consideration at least - regardless if you believe it or not. What are you doing? Your inclination is to safely analyze the mistakes of others rather than make any real contribution yourself...

There. Have I rampantly hit the context of this piece for you? Or shall we continue?

[barquedust]

You're not likely to let this rest yet, as, from what I've seen and heard of you, you are the insecure type who absolutely MUST have the last word and WILL NOT BE OUTDONE. So let me spare both of us any further obligation. I have made my point about your comment. Should you choose to continue to antagonize further, you'll be on your own. I'll not indulge your ego any further by engaging in an argument. You made no point with your original comment and I called you on it. DONE!

[endsequence]

I bet Alex Jones ditto heads think Chomsky is in on the conspiracy as well -- considering Chomsky has publicly stated that he believes that 9/11 conspiracies misconstrue the evidence and give too much credit to those in power. And Chomsky is no staunch proponent of U.S. or other allied nations. I'm sure most here are aware how critical he is of government and policy. Chomsky as an "NWO" agent is a comical thought -- "but that's the deceptive point" I'm sure Jones ditto-heads would say.

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It must be a dark, damp, hopelessly-cynical world that Jones' followers live in to think every angle other than his is a global "new world order" conspiracy.

[fetfastintetjock]

Alex is sure debunked. So sad that peopel fallow him. He make som shitty dvd over and over again with similar story and then sell it to the poor minded peopel.

[LeviBakersfield]

most people who try to discredit jones are fucking parrots. do the reasearch yourself and PLEASE come up with something better than hes a CIA jesuite-to me thats THE SAME FUCKING THING AS SAYING HES A REPTILIAN. parrot phoneys

[Glenmead]

well said man..Aj is a fucking legend.

[truthavenger99]

Science proves demolition, all you scumbag shills are evil wastes of organic matter, you are what's wrong with the world. Not evil in a Dr Evil sort of way, more like a filthy, stupid henchman sort of way, the kind of guys that get smashed by the hero and the crowd cheers as they wait for the powerful villian worth the hero's while.

[truthavenger99]

The freefall symmetric collapse of WTC7 and the 64% of freefall unform acceleration of the north tower, and the assymmetric 22 degree leaning south tower top section ceasing toppling and causing a symmetric collapse IRREFUTABLY PROVE controlled demolition.

Shills have to twist facts, lie and attack credibility because the science is on our side. Anyone who disagrees with 911 truth is either corrupt, stupid, emotionally invested in the official story, or they haven't researched the facts.

[KalkiAwaits]

Jones is another paid agent and Jason "BABABOOEY" is his side kick! HAHAHA

[whuitecloud24]

your sick Jones! your a danger to our society and the whole world. and you enjoy it so much.

[Bobmarley4201992]

every alex jones follower listen up i used to belive his lies as well thought he was incredible for what he was doing until i realised he didnt predict 911 bill copper did a month before jones i also found jones lied on y2k and said russia was launching missles causing some to commit suicide and run for the hills gcn is the station that supports his show and has connectins with abc news copper was murderd shortly after 911 and jones lives on preaching these lies of parnoia hes one of them

[6orillamask]

is the issue here 9/11 truth anymore? or who to believe...

[Bobmarley4201992]

well yes its about the truth but alex jones blocks it with his lies

[thepossessor]

really he does, well don't just research alex jones find other resources, research what he says,

[wolfumz]

Alex Jones sits around claiming that the government makes a living by producing paranoia and fear yet all he does is manipulate his listener's deepest fears by telling them that the world is full of lies.

[thepossessor]

he doesn't sit around he sit's when he dong talk radio, but to say that he sits around, the guy does atleast 6 hours of homework and research a day, he doesn't look into a crystal ball, you're so eager to discredit him, then research what he states, people should be researching various sources not just alex jones, although alex jones is a good source in my opinion

[wolfumz]

if you mean skim baseless, mindless drivel that's passed on to inforwars when you say hours of homework and research then yes I agree entirely.

[breezyvibe]

Debunkalicious.

[sabbathkyuss]

these guys are awesome. that made me laugh when alex said "that's preposterous"

[UKNWOLee]

One of George Galloways famous words!

[kerasi12]

These guys are such clowns................ Get a life fuckers

[Patriot0fTheRepublic]

your retarded.

[PaharCuPai]

and we go on and on and on and on...and the evil fu_kers are just laughing ...and prepare the next step into globalization...

USA ...the states which takes the hits first...the nest of evil...

When the real "problems" will begin ...we will no longer have the possibility to talk about it...

9/11 RIP to all victims ...but 9/11 was a small beginning.

I wish we would live in peace....

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[JazzukJazz]

Where is part 2

[CelticReject]

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[nick9155]

That the government thinks about all types of plans is not proof that they conspired to pull off 9/11. And Northwoods wasn't executed, and furthermore it was not a popular plan. The government is a lot less monolithic than people think in this regard. How about this...was the 1993 bombing of the WTC a conspiracy by the government?

[flarkfucky]

Cointelpro much?

[76M880]

look at all these videos the counter is frozen on them

[soundwaveshadlow]

i hope 1 day the truth is out and everyone wakes up and believe,s it

[manikwest]

It is called NEUROLOGICAL LINGUISTIC PROGRAMING. They can create a public opinion this way, that is why the interview was edited in a way so that the public would come to a universal consensus, of which favors the official story.

[thaflyingnun]

this is not the "we hate these people with different opinions" thread. face that unless you point to irrefutable evidence on here, nothing you claim means any more than what these guys say. Politicians have a lot to profit from come wartime. At the very least they have proven BBC cut parts out, and changed stories. instead of pointing to the non-credibility of these guys, give credit to those people you believe. find a demolitions expert who doesn't profit either way. make a valid argument.

[nick9155]

At this point, I actually don't believe that these guys believe any of this anymore (if they ever did). I'm assuming this is some kind of bizarre reality life being created, in which a media presence or personal brand (and the means to distribute it) are new career tools open to anyone.

Or perhaps I can't face the truth, which is that people this dumb and this shameless can continue to be heard AND believed. This is almost a good argument for government censorship against stupidity.

[xsful]

We don't-he's just of many truther twits. I 've never looked at Wiki's entry on him. I've seen enough of Bermas to know that he, like many truthers, quote mines, distorts, misunderstands, and fabricates. He's full of shit. And now he's nothing more than Jones' bitch. He's an idiot.

[xsful]

Since when does being a Physicist make you a demolitions expert? Since when is thermite used in demolitions? Have you acttually read anything at all on 9-11 that's not witten by a truther?

[Physman2011]

I think Chompsky is right. A few hours of research on the internet does not make you an expert. They have institutions for this type thing....they are called colleges.

[terrymanning1]

Maybe its not, but you will still find plenty of information online about Stephen Jones & his qualifications. And none of his qualifications are in controlled demolition.

[paranoia4132]

You don't need to be a controlled demolition expert to understand that there are only a couple of explanations for molten metal pouring out of the towers and pooling in the rubble. An impact from a plane certainly isn't one of those explanations.

[terrymanning1]

Really?

Well lets hear your explanation then. What do YOU think is the cause?

[paranoia4132]

I think the cause is something that would cause structural steel to melt. Jet fuel doesn't do that, so an incendiary of some sort is a far more plausible explanation.

What's your explanation Terry? Did one of the "terrorists" take an oxy-acetylene torch to the girders on his way through the building?

[terrymanning1]

Who claimed the jet fuel caused the steel to melt? Certainly no-one involved with the official version.

I also think you underestimate the kinetic energy released on collapse that would have taken time to dissipate under the pile, coupled with fires that were mostly unchecked & fed from numerous sources.

Stop parroting the 'truth' movements lies & deceptions. Look a little deeper & you will find the answers they dont want you to know.

[paranoia4132]

Stop parroting NIST's lies and deceptions. There was molten steel pouring out of the building prior to collapse, so your point is irrelevant in that respect, as for kinetic energy, maybe you can explain how that is related to temperature retention.

Also, please explain which sources would cause fire to reach steel-melting temperatures. The fact is that nothing BUT an incendiary additive could cause structural steel to melt. That's why they build skyscrapers with it, it doesn't melt.

[terrymanning1]

Oh please! It wasnt molten steel. It was almost certainly aluminum. Like you truthers keep saying, jet fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt steel.

Kinetic energy is heat. Buried under thousands of tons of rubble it will take a considerable amount of time to dissipate. Bit like an oven.

The steel didnt melt ok. So stop saying molten steel!

Steel is affected by heat though which is why they fireproof it. But fireproofing only buys time. Steel loses half its load bearing strength at 500c.

[paranoia4132]

Man, the official story says the steel melted. This video isn't even discussing towers one and two though, it's discussing 7. As you know, it wasn't hit by a plane yet it still collapsed perfectly and symmetrically in physics defying style and speed. I supposed it's just a coincidence that the OEM and countless government organisations were housed there.

Kinetic energy is not heat, it will be dissipated in another form which could be heat but would not cause the temperatures to...

[paranoia4132]

soar to thousands of degrees by the force of collapse. That makes no sense in scientific terms.

I'm sure you're American so you're dead against thinking that yorr government would do this, perhaps it's easier for me to look at the evidence objectively. Look at Operation Northwoods, it proves that this is not beyond their thinking.

[terrymanning1]

Jeez ur a dummy. The official story does not say jet fuel melted the fuckin steel! Where in the 9/11CR or NIST does it say that?

NIST have just released their findings on bldg 7 & theyve proved fire caused the collapse. And what did you expect the buildings to do? Fall sideways? Ever heard of gravity?

In what other form would the kinetic energy be dissipated? The temps didnt reach thousands of degrees! And operation Northwoods never happened!

Are you Alex Jones or just one of his sheep?

[paranoia4132]

Don't start the insults. You douche. I said Operation Northwoods proves that incidents like this are plausible, I didn't say that it happened.

The 9/11 CR and NIST report are government run. We are accusing the government so that's a mistake for a start. Neocon politicians headed the 9/11 CR, important testimonies were ignored, e.g. Barry Jennings and William Rodriguez. NIST don't prove shit because they put out bullshit and people like you buy it. Use your fucking sense or learn to physics.

[terrymanning1]

Insults are all you 'truther' dummies deserve. You all talk shit.

Northwoods didnt fuckin happen. Get over it.

Barry Jennings & Rodriguez are frauds. The latter has embellished his account so many times to enhance his public speaking engagements & earn money. And Jennings admitted in the BBC docu the third tower that he didnt see any dead bodies in the lobby of wtc7.

Trust 'truther' dipshits to believe these money/fame grabbing pricks.

Shame on idiots like you. Now fuck off.

[paranoia4132]

Again with the shit reading, what did I fucking say last time about Northwoods? It proves that false flag attacks aren't beyond their thinking.

I'm done with this honestly. How you can believe the official story just makes me want to stop arguing with you, because you are either dead in the fucking brain or you have a bunch of extra chromosomes.

Stupid fucking yank.

[terrymanning1]

Northwoods wasnt a plan that involved killing US citizens! And Kennedy rejected it without a second's thought.

Im done with you also. How you can honestly believe the proven liars of the 'truth' movement is beyond me. Guess it's either ignorance or just plain idiocy on your part. But you're not alone. Insignificant little pricks like you infest every 9/11 video on youtube. Its the only place you're able to spout your drivel!

Guess that makes you one of the 'giant twats'!!

[TeleCumber]

"Northwoods wasnt a plan that involved killing US citizens! And Kennedy rejected it without a second's thought."

~terrymanning1

Operation Northwoods showed the level of contempt possible for people in power to have for the people at large, and the willingness to psychopathically manipulate the world for their own ends. This is dispicatable, and it's a small step from there to actually killing a few citizens.

Oh and Kennedy rejected it but what if a neocon was in power? "sure go ahead!"

[AmericasFan]

The plan was thought of by one man. He got fired for it. The plan was never carried out. Where is the connection to 9/11? It doesn't even prove 9/11 was an inside job even if northwoods was carried out. Where is the connection?

[terrymanning1]

Go look him up on wikipedia ok!

[terrymanning1]

Jones & Bermas are cynical liars with one agenda. To make money from gullible fools too stupid to see through their lies.

They say Stephen Jones is a top demolition expert? NO HE'S NOT! He got sacked from Brigham Young Uni in Salt Lake City because he talks utter sh** about 9/11.

The B B C documentary they refer to makes the 'truth' movement look as stupid as they are.

[tuohytpatrick]

AJ & Bermas will connect the ruling family of 17th century China- The CHing Dynasty- to the CHeney family. Think about it for a sec....CHeney, CHing...it's all right there in front of you! But don't take their word for it. Do your own research, you'll see!

[greywolf424]

Alex Jones: The Hypocrite: v=mA9KqFfclbY

[saxoniano]

terry,

wash your mouth because is full of shit

[terrymanning1]

Bermas. Use some of those profits from lying about 9/11 to fix you're teeth. You ugly bastard. You make Shrek look like Brad Pitt.

[NyDerekJeter2]

Terry, bermas is not profiting from 9/11. His film "LC Final Cut" still has not broken even. The money that they get goes to the Feel Good Foundation for the first responders who need it the most. Bermas is a very respectable and nice guy who hasen't dont anything more then tell you the facts.

[greywolf424]

You're such a fucking liar NyDerekJeter2:

"We were a bunch of kids.... I will be the first to admit our film definitely contained errors, it still does contain some dubious claims, and it defninetly comes to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up on the facts." -- Dylan creator of the movie Loose Change

Loose Change Debunks "Loose Change": v=MUFTV6sjEdo

Alex Jones: The Hypocrite: v=mA9KqFfclbY

Meet the Creators of "Loose Change": v=Zs5jWvu4tR8

[terrymanning1]

nyderek

greywolf has answered for me.

But I can assure you that the LC crew have not contributed one cent to 9/11 charities.

They are lying scum.

[unit023]

wow you sound like such a fucking hater

[terrymanning1]

Only of lying scum like the Loose Change guys who profit from tragedy.

[streakingcameraman]

I want to see Burmas's degree in engineering. When I see that, I may take him serious. But, wait, he has nothing, he and his friend, "little bitch" Avery, have misqouted, misinformed, and pretty much opened the doors for people to debunk them. And you judge us for debunking you with actual engineer input and actual qoutes from real experts. Who should you be made at for bringing in hairy evidence that is too easy to debunk.

[dynaweb]

Excellent!

[IeatRAWmeatAllWeek]

Gay ,so,so,so,so gay!!

[DarthCheney420]

You're gay!

[ucanbetouched]

great video