I'll say that it's a matter of mass and speed not speed alone, as is not about mass alone. Put there speed and mass and you will have a perfect player, as Jonah Lomu was.
What a misleading title. Chavhanga may be faster than Sivivatu but this clip hardly shows that he 'smokes' him, Sivivatu had way more ground to cover.
@TheRaawan u do know every1 uses only up to 13% of their brain right black or white people.....see im not a racist so i wont stoop to your level but you are tryin to tell me that black people arent intelligent.....then Obama must be a dumbass eyy.....thats why people like Habana, Ngwenya, Lomu who are black btw and arguably some of the best rugby players, yr telling me there's no intelligence to their game.....u sir are dumb and racist
This is rugby, not science. Sivivatu wouldn't give up because he had calculated the maths behind it. He would only give it as a player of his standard if he couldn't catch him. Tonderai isn't the best winger, far from it, but he is faster than Sivivatu. So lets forget the maths, and accept that no matter how good a player is, someone will always be better at something than them.
chavanga is way faster than sivivatu. sivivatu is not very athletic built like chavanga...sitiveni didnt chase chavanga cause he knew wat the outcome would be..
This video really shows that Sivi got his angles all wrong. He tried to line him up from from half a field away assuming that Chavhanga would keep running at the same speed as the Shark that passed the ball.
That was an error.
The moment Chavhanga dropped the clutch it was all over.
he had him at this instance sure, its good to see young guns smoking. pearcy wasn't that fast but has 1 of the longest track records with the boks, sitis still in the allblacks frame despite the colossal pressure 4 his position. many of u dunder heads are green with envy for any of these players -non i bet would even get close! as for "TheRaawan" is that cause you cant spell rain - well you can pull your head out of you ass its stopped raawanning now! on that level big letters small coc' .go abs
In this instant Sivivatu got smoked but overall he's a much better player than Chavhanga. Just like wargasmnz said sprint times are irrelevant and only show what times a player could get to if they're in the right conditions which we all know never happens on a Rugby field.
People seem to forget how wide a rugby field is...
Sivi gives up because he's needs to run an angle while 15 is running tramline down the wing. Huge difference in distance covered.
Rugby field being no wider than 70 meters, 100 meters between try lines means the field diagonal is sqrt(70^2 + 100^2) = 122m. If the guy running the win can run an 11 sec 100, the guy running the diagonal would need the pace of a 9.01s 100m just to keep pace, let alone catch him.
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@mcm375 Watch one of my other videos of Marika Vunibaka and try telling Rua Tipoki that. Like Jackk10065 said if you played you may understand this. Science comes up with logical ways of figuring most things out but in the end alot of it is just theory.
I can see the logic in what you've explained and that's how it should be but for some things this isn't always true.
@mcm375 pause it at 0:10 wen chavanga receives the ball(while not running at full pace) sivi is a meter or 2 closer to his try line and running at full pace, he is also only around 12 meters infield from him and there is 70 meters to run wen chav recieves the ball,12 meters over 70m distance isnt much of an angle wen evryting is taken in2 account (ur math would mean sivi would be startin in one extreme corner and chav in another and chav finishing on the side of the pitch wer he started runnin)
@mcm375 - your maths is faulty. When Chavhanga got the ball he was 10m out side of the 22 Sivivatu was 15m in field and 3m in front so: Distance to try line is 68m for Chavanga's line and so would Sivi's (sqrt(66^2+15^2). However if, as it looked in the footage, he tried to cut him off before the halfway then he would have to run an extra 3m. Not the country mile that you make it out to be but far enough if you know the other guy is too quick!
@mcm375 well done u can do pythagoreas and simple algebra do u want a medal??????????? it is just supposed to show that he is quick u dont need to become all geeky about it and show everyone ur such a big man with ur gcse level maths
@mcm375 To be honest, I believe that's a valid point but I don't see it as the reason he gave up. He knew there was nothing he could do, it was pointless expending more energy. Was best to just save it for the rest of the game.
@mcm375 did you watch the video? actually he doesn't. Chavhanga starts on the line then drifts closer to the posts. Sivi starts where Chavhanga finishes pretty much. all he had to do was run straight. Chavhanga actually covered more distance.
@instantsurgery Chavhanga started drifting towards the posts after Sivivatu gave up the chase, even if Sivivatu kept chasing him Chavhanga would've stayed on his wing and would've scored a try. Sivivatu did the right move by giving up what was going to be a try regardless and save his energy for the rest of the match.
I would have to disagree with this comment completely. chav receives, sivi is a good yrd in front of him which would effect the figures you describe. figures also based on the whole field but this chase takes place between the 22m and 10 to roughly the opposing 10m line. Chav is also running with ball while sivi is running without. if you ask any player who has done any sort of sprinting this makes a difference.
Clear difference in the pace of the two if you ask me bcos sivi gives up so easily
When he is running at top speed, he managed to run from one 10 meter line to the other 10 meter line in about 2 seconds according to my stop watch. This translates to 10 meters in a second which would equal a 10 second 100m - on the fly. In a 100m race he would lose more than .5 second accelerating to his top speed. Nonetheless the fact that I can conservatively extrapolate a sub 11 second 100m for a man running on grass in a match is very impressive. The man is very fast.
@coolsam5000 thats not good enough to get in the semi final mate he would be smoked most sprinters nowedays are dipping under 10 secs he wont have a chance
mate, you wanna watch the video where bryan habana got stood up by that american winger in the world cup of 07!! best wing on wing situation ever coz this guy was a nobody to us rugby fenatics here in NZ whereas habana was supposedly one of the fastest (in which he was) guys in rugby .LOL. its a classic i love it. i love rugby. lol
Sivi was covering accross from right wing - about a 20-30 metre headstart on the angle. sheesh even if he was the 100m olympic champ he wouldn't have caught him. What an irrelevant video title.
Chavanga had a 5m or so advantage.. Sivi gave up. Sivi is really elusive and is a great finisher, out and out pace isn't really his strength. I Remember a while ago against England Sivivatu had the acceleration but not the top speed to catch Ugo Monye or Paul Sackey. Chavanga, Paulse, Habana, Benjamin, Pietersen etc all are really fast but just because some wingers aren't as fast doesn't mean they're rubbish.
@IntellectualMusic true... shane williams is not the fastest but just try tackling him! he'll sidestep you in a flash... and has more tries for a middle of the road team like Wales than any all black that has ever played which is impressive. its always easier to score tries as an all black because the team is so consistently good, you get more opportunities to score.
@Tubezy thats very true. But then again All Blacks of late aren't that great at throwing it wide anymore or scoring through the wings, 05 was perhaps the last time they played with attractive attacking through the backs. Australia of yesteryear could play with some real flair. Wales are up against weaker teams usually, but I never doubt the talents of the NH wingers. England's are my favourite from the NH. Shane Williams or Gavin Henson at his best would fit into the ABs backline well
@fearfijian1 Dont be silly sivivatu's thick as 2 planks of wood. He was smart enough to stop chasing. That's all he was good for as a winger 'an opportunist' 'a finisher'.
@tonytai2017 you can't see talent can you? he's far more than that..have you seen how creative and smart he plays. wonder why he's in the AB's? he's been off form but still has class..
@fearfijian1 Dude it's not only about talent. It's about teamwork. Hence why it's a Rugby team not a rugby talent. His defense sux, he didn't play well in super14 this year when did play and so he's been dropped. This video is an indication of what he really is. You must be a good all round player defense/attack wise.
commentators make a big dealout of nothing sivivatu wasn't even trying to chase him down it would make a difference if he did.. but he didn't so he didnt smoke nobody jst xcited to score the try..
yep, he just gave up-he was already behind chavhanga and he had to know there's no way you're going to catch a guy that fast unless you have the angle on him
All this talk of 100m sprint times is irrelevant, they have been playing rugby for 35 minutes, you think they can still manage their personal best 100m time after 35 minutes of running around? do we know which players have covered how many meters in this game? do we know their condition going into the game? there can be no comparrison drawn from a piece of film such as this. Anyone drawing a conclusion from this footage or personal best sprint times is an idiot.
you're completely right, for me in any field sport it's the acceleration over the first 5metres that counts. Sivivatu lost some seconds realising what was going on, turning and then had to play catch up. Means shit as far as 100m sprint times go
@wargasmnz i think that i could go faster than 100m sprint time necause im jogging beofre i sprint not standing start and then also when i get the ball (i play under 16s as a lock) i have an energy boost because of excitement of the possibility i may score
the winger who passed the ball to him is super slow though, supposed to be a flanker or something. and his pass was a bit late he should have given chavhanga more time but at least he got the try anyway.
Wikipedia isn't really a reliable source because anyone can come along and just edit it. Either way their best sprint times only matter if they can use it effectively. Sivivatu might not be one of the fastest in world Rugby but with what speed he does possess he uses it to the best effect.
Clerc is the best winger in the world....and i don't think this because i'm french at all :P but shit i'd never heard of that guy before,what a fucking rocket
I've never seen anywhere that Habana's time over the 100m is 10.20 there are alot of sources that show that Chavhanga had a time of 10.28 over the 100m when he was Zimbabwe sprint champion at 18 years old.
You might of got them mixed up somewhere. Habana is one of my favourtie players but he's slowed down a little bit but is still a very exciting player.
@hemhemimakatekobum check out wikipedia, habana has a recently confirmed 10.20 and tondi openly says he runs about 10.5. I was not bad, but its not true that I ran the 100m in 10.27 seconds. It was 10.5. 10.2 is pretty fast." is the exact quote.
@hemhemimakatekobum With all respect, i would like to disagree. Unfortunatley most of his trys are intercepts. he's not very agile and not very strong. only fast.
neither habana nor chavanga ran these times! Chavanga has been quoted saying the fastest he ever ran was 10.5 and even that was probably hand timed or wind assisted. 10.28 at 18 would have made him in the top 2 or 3 in the world at that age!!
No way is tonderai quicker than habana if you watch the clip when habana gets tackled he still manages to outpace despite him already being in top speed and habana does a 100m in 10.20 whereas tonderai only does it in 10.50 so go figure.
I saw this game live on fox,believe me people Sivivatu did'nt give up,nor did he get his angle wrong,thats absurd! It's so clear that Chavanga is just ridicilously fast!And my fellow Fijian knew that after only giving a few strides!Lol,i follow rugby and have seen a lot of both these guys,Sivivatu is a better all round player no doubt,and imo only a fit Caucau or Habana before he got too big would stand a chance in that chase,all 3 have quick smooth actions!Sivivatu has descent speed,at best.
@lightfoot1991 are you serious? he's running the ball into the middle of the field not in a straight line and every Rugby player eases off when they know they're gonna score a try so of course it's slow.
Anyway Sivivatu playing against Italy this weekend thou he is one of the worlds best finishers he doesn't have top end pace like Chavhanga
What about currently is Caucau playing Rugby for Agen anymore or is he playing Rugby at all? Last I heard he was overweight but still playing good I just wish he wasn't so up himself and lost some weight and played internationally.
He could have become a great winger but as it stands he hasn't really made a his mark only at the 2003 RWC.
sivivatu is shit he is the most over-rated winger in NZ. Hosea Gear is the best winger in NZ consistently but never gets picked for the abs same with Tuitavake they both perform every year but never get selected. sivivatu is so shit and lazy
@cacaproot01 He's lazy and Messam knows he can't catch him either but look at him he keeps chasing right to the end. Also there's a game against the Wallabies earlier this year when Matt Giteau runs into to get a try by the sideline but Sivivatu gets lazy and lets him run right into the middle.
If I find it I'll upload it just to show you it's pretty shocking really.
Check the video clock, when he receives the ball from the centre it is 11 sec. he touches down at about 20s. So that is about 9 seconds as I said not all that fast!
nope. nwengya's fastest 100m time is 10.5 seconds. habanas fastest 100m time is 10.2 seconds. chavanga clocked 100m in 10.12 seconds when he was only 16. hes also the national zimbabwe 200m record holder.
OK, 'the right honourable Lord Tony of Johnson sounds like a great big flouncy poof' I think the thing is it gets to me when people point out the totally obvious, like on the weather. I know it's raining, i need no little pictures of clouds to work that out. My mate reckons it's so deaf people can watch it too... :-(
I agree entirely expat74 Sivi is so lazy even Messam stilled continued to chase knowing he had no chance. Sivi let Matt Giteau under the post in a Tri-Nations game earlier this year he just got lazy and didn't care.
Chavanga going by 100m times is the fastest winger around but it's doesn't really matter unless he uses it properly. Habanas probably not too much slower but he knows how to use his speed effectively and that's what makes him a huge threat for alot of oppositions.
I read somewhere that this Chavanga is faster than Habana. Sivi just made himself look like a punk for giving up like that. Sure you got no hope in hell but show some commitment at least try and keep him in the corner to make the conversion harder but no. He should have done a Michael Johnson and pulled a hammi. Why this guys been picked year after year for the blacks is just amazing. Hes lazy as Fuck
if you look closely, chavanga has an amazing bust of speed just as sivivatu gets closer...btw, sivivatu's not that bad a player guys...if he's in the all black team offcourse.
I reckon Sivivatu could of at least try to dive and ankle tap him but he's too lazy and he's not the diving type I think.
Sivivatu is still a very good winger and he creates something out of nothing but just in this particular video I was just showing how he got smoked due to his lazyness.
If he carried on he might of been able to be just enough of a nuisance than Messam might of come along and just caught him but we'll never know.
i say this as an avid all black fan. sivivatu sucks. he sucks donkey balls. he is one of the worst all black wingers i have ever had the misfortune of cheering for. he fumbles the ball more than the rest of the team put together, he has decent speed (nothing special for a winger but its ok) and has no commitment or passion when he plays. he set up our only try last week in the bledisloe match, but apart from that he has been nothing but a burden. cant believe thats the best nz has to offer.
Sivivatu is miles abve Rokocoko, Sivivatu has the skills to create space and attacking opportunities from anywhere. If you notice any of the backline plays revolve around him because he is the only decent chance of the backs scoring a try
yaheim, u can comment in hundreds if not thousands of different ways on this footage. I'm a fijian and I'm being honest when I say this, it's not nice at all to read comments like yours about my culture. Fijians, like many other nationalities have made a meaningful contribution to the game of Rugby, we can do without the racism.
yaheim, u don't have to get racist... This is a game, just a GAME. Not life or death, not the difference between haves and have not's.. No need to bring the tone down to the lowest common denominator by calling him a "dumb fijian"
I still crackup at this video because that touchie is almost faster than that benjamin take a look at the background when before he gives it off to Chavanga
um no he did give up.. He couldv'e been on the same side of the field and it wouldn't have made any diff. He's an opportunist winger like his mate tin of coco
Timorum any professional rugby player is a good player you fucking idiot just because they're not the most famous of players doesn't mean they're not extremely good.
this like that video when habana got smoked from ngwenya but who gave up? sivivatu habana didnt give up he tried something thats what i like about him
Siti had more ground to cover then chavanga but hey....and yes ruben would of smoked their asses but siti still the better of the 2 (chavanga and Siti)
all of uz that say shit about sivivatu,u guyz can go fuck urself..at lease he made it that far and also his proud of himself being n all black player... uuuu guyz go fuck ur father n ur mother
Man-shamed?? thats what the aussies said hahaha and look what happened ahahha stop the talking shit and just wait and see what the outcome is yeah??lol
The title isn't misleading because he did get smoked. Of course everyone knows that he had to make up more ground being on the angle but we can't exactly ask them to make sure sivivatu's straight behind him the next time something like this happens.
Sivivatu's alot better Rugby player overall no doubt about that but when it comes to sheer speed I think Tonderai has it in shit loads.
Talk about a misleading title. A little trigonometry would tell you Sivivatu had to cover many more metres; giving up the chase was good judgement. You know that as well as I do...
Please provide links to sprint times. otherwise anyone can make up any number and pass it off as fact. wikipedia doesn'tcount as fact as anyone can edit the database. official sources need to be sighted ie. springboks standing 40 meter sprint trials. until then, its aguessing game and full of shit.
@GamingEpix I hate u. Ur a racist shit. U fail almost as badly as ur dads condom.
JoeSB123productions 1 month ago
thats what happens when you have to chase your food every day.
GamingEpix 5 months ago
@GamingEpix Thats totally un called for.
MegaGenius84 1 month ago
he didnt get smoked did you see him gasing it from the otherside that other cat always would have scored a try
humm2thaU 5 months ago
The only Unbelievable thing i see in this clip is how the 5 forwards could have lost the ball in front of the try line against a back..
brennanfourfingers 5 months ago
I hate when the top comments are like a paragraph long because I want to read them but I lose interest
theanushot 5 months ago
Siti gave up. You can see he could have gotten within at least touching distance if he wanted to. Tackling another issue though
sonofthedestroyer 6 months ago
i wouldnt really call that being smoked...
FriedKentuckyChicken 6 months ago
Umm that was Siti just being lazy as usual.
TJTVI 6 months ago 2
stop all your maths bullshit. It is a massive out sprint. Just physically look at how much distance it got in sivi in 5 meters. No wonder he gave up.
He didnt give up because he did the math calculations in his head.
jzhaojapanrugby 7 months ago
I'll say that it's a matter of mass and speed not speed alone, as is not about mass alone. Put there speed and mass and you will have a perfect player, as Jonah Lomu was.
ionutzstoica 7 months ago
some pretty long comments on here lol
JPSFT18 7 months ago
What a misleading title. Chavhanga may be faster than Sivivatu but this clip hardly shows that he 'smokes' him, Sivivatu had way more ground to cover.
goatieman21 7 months ago
@TheRaawan u do know every1 uses only up to 13% of their brain right black or white people.....see im not a racist so i wont stoop to your level but you are tryin to tell me that black people arent intelligent.....then Obama must be a dumbass eyy.....thats why people like Habana, Ngwenya, Lomu who are black btw and arguably some of the best rugby players, yr telling me there's no intelligence to their game.....u sir are dumb and racist
Magara16 8 months ago
This is rugby, not science. Sivivatu wouldn't give up because he had calculated the maths behind it. He would only give it as a player of his standard if he couldn't catch him. Tonderai isn't the best winger, far from it, but he is faster than Sivivatu. So lets forget the maths, and accept that no matter how good a player is, someone will always be better at something than them.
iMcKz 9 months ago
chavanga is way faster than sivivatu. sivivatu is not very athletic built like chavanga...sitiveni didnt chase chavanga cause he knew wat the outcome would be..
soleeisoufika101 9 months ago
This video really shows that Sivi got his angles all wrong. He tried to line him up from from half a field away assuming that Chavhanga would keep running at the same speed as the Shark that passed the ball.
That was an error.
The moment Chavhanga dropped the clutch it was all over.
ambbb1973 11 months ago
@TheRaawan your an idiot
Faa012 11 months ago
pffffft rupeni caucaunibuca wouldve pummled his ass to the ground at the 50metre line lol
V3G3TA10 11 months ago
1.rupeni caucau. 2 bryan habana 3 kurtley beale 4 joe 5 drew mitchil
looplukee69 1 year ago
how many test matches does Tonderai Chavhanga have compared to sivi....thought so
izzyvulaca 1 year ago
Bloody sivi can be lazy at times.
UHtiger 1 year ago
@TheRaawan That is so racist. It's 2010 and almost 2011; it's about time you rid yourself of a dark-age mentality. Quit being a Nazi.
theephraimite 1 year ago
he had him at this instance sure, its good to see young guns smoking. pearcy wasn't that fast but has 1 of the longest track records with the boks, sitis still in the allblacks frame despite the colossal pressure 4 his position. many of u dunder heads are green with envy for any of these players -non i bet would even get close! as for "TheRaawan" is that cause you cant spell rain - well you can pull your head out of you ass its stopped raawanning now! on that level big letters small coc' .go abs
d1771yd 1 year ago
Brian Habana is the fastest rugby player in the world.... END OF FUCKING STORY
IDGeneratorS 1 year ago
@IDGeneratorS hes probably not i bet theres quicker people than him but they just arent as good
0910dc 1 year ago
Holy this is like 110 yards holy fuck. Play NFL MAN!
NZENZN 1 year ago
Dont talk utter bullshit omf.. Do you even play rugby mcm375? You get in these situations all the time. That was easily reachable
ReinhardtvanHeerden 1 year ago
In this instant Sivivatu got smoked but overall he's a much better player than Chavhanga. Just like wargasmnz said sprint times are irrelevant and only show what times a player could get to if they're in the right conditions which we all know never happens on a Rugby field.
hemhemimakatekobum 1 year ago 30
@hemhemimakatekobum you cant really call it smoked as Sivivatu came from the opposite wing so its debatable
fiaboots 11 months ago
@hemhemimakatekobum
Sivivatu always gives up way to early!
seal1mas 3 months ago
People seem to forget how wide a rugby field is...
Sivi gives up because he's needs to run an angle while 15 is running tramline down the wing. Huge difference in distance covered.
Rugby field being no wider than 70 meters, 100 meters between try lines means the field diagonal is sqrt(70^2 + 100^2) = 122m. If the guy running the win can run an 11 sec 100, the guy running the diagonal would need the pace of a 9.01s 100m just to keep pace, let alone catch him.
mcm375 1 year ago 94
@mcm375 sad prick..by the way its easier to cornerflag than run straight. If you played you may understand this
Jackk10065 1 year ago
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@mcm375 Watch one of my other videos of Marika Vunibaka and try telling Rua Tipoki that. Like Jackk10065 said if you played you may understand this. Science comes up with logical ways of figuring most things out but in the end alot of it is just theory.
I can see the logic in what you've explained and that's how it should be but for some things this isn't always true.
hemhemimakatekobum 1 year ago
@hemhemimakatekobum
I see your point, but if you know you're not fast enough, you're just wasting energy during that chase.
Hectectica 8 months ago
@mcm375 what are you smoking? sivi was 5 meters away from chavhanga not 70 meters when they drew level on the field...
LawrenceViljoen 1 year ago
@mcm375 pause it at 0:10 wen chavanga receives the ball(while not running at full pace) sivi is a meter or 2 closer to his try line and running at full pace, he is also only around 12 meters infield from him and there is 70 meters to run wen chav recieves the ball,12 meters over 70m distance isnt much of an angle wen evryting is taken in2 account (ur math would mean sivi would be startin in one extreme corner and chav in another and chav finishing on the side of the pitch wer he started runnin)
MrCiaran91 10 months ago
@mcm375 - your maths is faulty. When Chavhanga got the ball he was 10m out side of the 22 Sivivatu was 15m in field and 3m in front so: Distance to try line is 68m for Chavanga's line and so would Sivi's (sqrt(66^2+15^2). However if, as it looked in the footage, he tried to cut him off before the halfway then he would have to run an extra 3m. Not the country mile that you make it out to be but far enough if you know the other guy is too quick!
uChakide 10 months ago
@mcm375 Stop trying to be fancy, I get what you're saying, but look at field distance covered, he got burnt, full stop.
cgouws999 9 months ago
@mcm375 well done u can do pythagoreas and simple algebra do u want a medal??????????? it is just supposed to show that he is quick u dont need to become all geeky about it and show everyone ur such a big man with ur gcse level maths
BestWorld10 8 months ago
@mcm375 you just got maths on our arses!
420partyatmine 8 months ago
@mcm375
o_O can you do my maths homework?
SuperDrewball 5 months ago
@mcm375 To be honest, I believe that's a valid point but I don't see it as the reason he gave up. He knew there was nothing he could do, it was pointless expending more energy. Was best to just save it for the rest of the game.
bigbadboodydaddy 4 months ago
@mcm375 did you watch the video? actually he doesn't. Chavhanga starts on the line then drifts closer to the posts. Sivi starts where Chavhanga finishes pretty much. all he had to do was run straight. Chavhanga actually covered more distance.
instantsurgery 4 months ago
@instantsurgery Chavhanga started drifting towards the posts after Sivivatu gave up the chase, even if Sivivatu kept chasing him Chavhanga would've stayed on his wing and would've scored a try. Sivivatu did the right move by giving up what was going to be a try regardless and save his energy for the rest of the match.
CalluW 2 months ago
I would have to disagree with this comment completely. chav receives, sivi is a good yrd in front of him which would effect the figures you describe. figures also based on the whole field but this chase takes place between the 22m and 10 to roughly the opposing 10m line. Chav is also running with ball while sivi is running without. if you ask any player who has done any sort of sprinting this makes a difference.
Clear difference in the pace of the two if you ask me bcos sivi gives up so easily
phippstony1 3 weeks ago
lata bo!!!
Mr1in1000000 1 year ago
sivivatu isnt the fastest... he's known for more strength and stepping. rocko was the speedster fijian
SlickRoyalz 1 year ago
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kentbayaz 1 year ago
When he is running at top speed, he managed to run from one 10 meter line to the other 10 meter line in about 2 seconds according to my stop watch. This translates to 10 meters in a second which would equal a 10 second 100m - on the fly. In a 100m race he would lose more than .5 second accelerating to his top speed. Nonetheless the fact that I can conservatively extrapolate a sub 11 second 100m for a man running on grass in a match is very impressive. The man is very fast.
kentbayaz 1 year ago
Man, these Zimbos are fast!! I bet they practiced running away from Mugabe when they were young.
mchohan100 1 year ago 2
give it to the black guy...
ngms271 1 year ago
@ngms271 from one black guy to the other hahahahaa
gizarangi 1 year ago
nahh if sivivatu chased him he would have caught him
but he jus gaved up easily!
Nabzvilleboy5 1 year ago
tha guy is fast but would not compete with the worst of sprinters
43aaronlewis 1 year ago
@43aaronlewis ermm yes he would he runs 10.27 ,, thats faster than quite a lot of sprinters in the olympics
coolsam5000 1 year ago
@coolsam5000 thats not good enough to get in the semi final mate he would be smoked most sprinters nowedays are dipping under 10 secs he wont have a chance
43aaronlewis 1 year ago
i would hardly say 'smoked'...sivi probably realised pretty quickly that even if he tailed him, it would result in a try so he didn't bother
Dyers88 1 year ago
Takutdzwa Ingwenya is faster then Chavanga....plays for USA but from Zimbabwe too
ihinarap 1 year ago
mate, you wanna watch the video where bryan habana got stood up by that american winger in the world cup of 07!! best wing on wing situation ever coz this guy was a nobody to us rugby fenatics here in NZ whereas habana was supposedly one of the fastest (in which he was) guys in rugby .LOL. its a classic i love it. i love rugby. lol
V3G3TA10 1 year ago
Sivi was covering accross from right wing - about a 20-30 metre headstart on the angle. sheesh even if he was the 100m olympic champ he wouldn't have caught him. What an irrelevant video title.
sunflowery 1 year ago 3
listen:
Chavhanga is quicker but sitivatu has an allround better game, Chavhanga's handling can be quite suspect at times.
nbciren 1 year ago
sitiveni can be quite lazy on Defense.
tommymonsternz 1 year ago
Tonderai Chavhanga had a head start , Sivivati came across the field ... end of story
fiaboots 1 year ago
That's sivivatu's tought luck. He decided to stop or throw the towel in. The fact is he never got a finger on chavanga....
tonytai2017 1 year ago
Chavanga had a 5m or so advantage.. Sivi gave up. Sivi is really elusive and is a great finisher, out and out pace isn't really his strength. I Remember a while ago against England Sivivatu had the acceleration but not the top speed to catch Ugo Monye or Paul Sackey. Chavanga, Paulse, Habana, Benjamin, Pietersen etc all are really fast but just because some wingers aren't as fast doesn't mean they're rubbish.
IntellectualMusic 1 year ago
@IntellectualMusic true... shane williams is not the fastest but just try tackling him! he'll sidestep you in a flash... and has more tries for a middle of the road team like Wales than any all black that has ever played which is impressive. its always easier to score tries as an all black because the team is so consistently good, you get more opportunities to score.
Tubezy 1 year ago
@Tubezy thats very true. But then again All Blacks of late aren't that great at throwing it wide anymore or scoring through the wings, 05 was perhaps the last time they played with attractive attacking through the backs. Australia of yesteryear could play with some real flair. Wales are up against weaker teams usually, but I never doubt the talents of the NH wingers. England's are my favourite from the NH. Shane Williams or Gavin Henson at his best would fit into the ABs backline well
IntellectualMusic 1 year ago
Sivivatu is mud anyways. Thank God he missed out on AB selection.....he's a slow camel.
tonytai2017 1 year ago
@tonytai2017 a smart, all rounded winger is far better than a just a fast one
fearfijian1 1 year ago
@fearfijian1 Dont be silly sivivatu's thick as 2 planks of wood. He was smart enough to stop chasing. That's all he was good for as a winger 'an opportunist' 'a finisher'.
tonytai2017 1 year ago
@tonytai2017 you can't see talent can you? he's far more than that..have you seen how creative and smart he plays. wonder why he's in the AB's? he's been off form but still has class..
fearfijian1 1 year ago
@fearfijian1 Dude it's not only about talent. It's about teamwork. Hence why it's a Rugby team not a rugby talent. His defense sux, he didn't play well in super14 this year when did play and so he's been dropped. This video is an indication of what he really is. You must be a good all round player defense/attack wise.
tonytai2017 1 year ago
Chavanga is good but he made a bad move to go and join the Lions
BevanCA 1 year ago
thats not smoking sivivatu you dumb south african...
mrasad14 1 year ago
@mrasad14 hush son...
nicgeldenhuys 1 year ago
commentators make a big dealout of nothing sivivatu wasn't even trying to chase him down it would make a difference if he did.. but he didn't so he didnt smoke nobody jst xcited to score the try..
ssj901 1 year ago
yep, he just gave up-he was already behind chavhanga and he had to know there's no way you're going to catch a guy that fast unless you have the angle on him
shrekthesheep 1 year ago
All this talk of 100m sprint times is irrelevant, they have been playing rugby for 35 minutes, you think they can still manage their personal best 100m time after 35 minutes of running around? do we know which players have covered how many meters in this game? do we know their condition going into the game? there can be no comparrison drawn from a piece of film such as this. Anyone drawing a conclusion from this footage or personal best sprint times is an idiot.
wargasmnz 2 years ago 46
yeah dude you know it, that makes sense
maugerfan 2 years ago
@wargasmnz I guess alot of people don't take that into consideration.
souljahlistikz 2 years ago
agreed
bulabula12 2 years ago
you're completely right, for me in any field sport it's the acceleration over the first 5metres that counts. Sivivatu lost some seconds realising what was going on, turning and then had to play catch up. Means shit as far as 100m sprint times go
jkino78 1 year ago
@wargasmnz Well said!!!!!
TheFreedomWingZero 1 year ago
@wargasmnz agreed. fijian1 stfu at least sitiveni has been in the all blacks, stop talking shit
thelookats 1 year ago
@wargasmnz i think that i could go faster than 100m sprint time necause im jogging beofre i sprint not standing start and then also when i get the ball (i play under 16s as a lock) i have an energy boost because of excitement of the possibility i may score
SAMDINGO12 1 year ago
sivivatu, saw who go tthe ball and then didnt think he had a chance, to be onest Chavhanga wasnt gonna be caught!
michaelgregpowell 2 years ago
the winger who passed the ball to him is super slow though, supposed to be a flanker or something. and his pass was a bit late he should have given chavhanga more time but at least he got the try anyway.
samchit09 2 years ago
rugby...anything can happen~!
bristobrasto 2 years ago
maybe Sivivatu pulled a Hammy or something, looked like he was catching up easy enough, but just stopped
BroomeBlocker4 2 years ago
Wikipedia isn't really a reliable source because anyone can come along and just edit it. Either way their best sprint times only matter if they can use it effectively. Sivivatu might not be one of the fastest in world Rugby but with what speed he does possess he uses it to the best effect.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago 12
@hemhemimakatekobum
yea true man! it changes from every month!
GrungeRocker1000 1 year ago
Clerc is the best winger in the world....and i don't think this because i'm french at all :P but shit i'd never heard of that guy before,what a fucking rocket
FrenchFlair15 2 years ago
I've never seen anywhere that Habana's time over the 100m is 10.20 there are alot of sources that show that Chavhanga had a time of 10.28 over the 100m when he was Zimbabwe sprint champion at 18 years old.
You might of got them mixed up somewhere. Habana is one of my favourtie players but he's slowed down a little bit but is still a very exciting player.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago 3
@hemhemimakatekobum check out wikipedia, habana has a recently confirmed 10.20 and tondi openly says he runs about 10.5. I was not bad, but its not true that I ran the 100m in 10.27 seconds. It was 10.5. 10.2 is pretty fast." is the exact quote.
usamabutt12345 2 years ago
@hemhemimakatekobum ,
Rugby speed different from 100m sprint. Because in rugby you dont simply run in a straight line.
This is why Rupeni Caucau always will be the greatest and fastest winger in history (fastest in rugby terms and not running in a straight line).
sonofthedestroyer 2 years ago
@hemhemimakatekobum With all respect, i would like to disagree. Unfortunatley most of his trys are intercepts. he's not very agile and not very strong. only fast.
hookup101 1 year ago
@hookup101
yea bit like Rokocoko.
GrungeRocker1000 1 year ago
@hemhemimakatekobum yeah habana runs 10.4 ,, andddd chavhanga ran 10.27
coolsam5000 1 year ago
@hemhemimakatekobum
neither habana nor chavanga ran these times! Chavanga has been quoted saying the fastest he ever ran was 10.5 and even that was probably hand timed or wind assisted. 10.28 at 18 would have made him in the top 2 or 3 in the world at that age!!
nztmac 1 year ago
No way is tonderai quicker than habana if you watch the clip when habana gets tackled he still manages to outpace despite him already being in top speed and habana does a 100m in 10.20 whereas tonderai only does it in 10.50 so go figure.
akebefrontiere 2 years ago
I think he's slowed down some now as he's buffed up some
jkino78 1 year ago
I saw this game live on fox,believe me people Sivivatu did'nt give up,nor did he get his angle wrong,thats absurd! It's so clear that Chavanga is just ridicilously fast!And my fellow Fijian knew that after only giving a few strides!Lol,i follow rugby and have seen a lot of both these guys,Sivivatu is a better all round player no doubt,and imo only a fit Caucau or Habana before he got too big would stand a chance in that chase,all 3 have quick smooth actions!Sivivatu has descent speed,at best.
dulcifyfj 2 years ago
sivivatu got his angles wrong there
should have been corner flagging - would have caught him
GoldenbanjoDJ 2 years ago
if this guy is so fast why is he not playing nistead of habanna>?
superdave31 2 years ago
hes faster...but that doesn't mean he's a better player.
SLASH570570 2 years ago
cus habana has much beter defensive ability
ccfc104 2 years ago
@superdave31 cause he cant play rugby...
Henry1993bc 2 years ago
sivivatu should of made that, just pure laziness.
Skippy12495 2 years ago
he cant cause Tonderai is the fastest rugby player in the world and Sivivatu knows it. Tonderai holds the Zimbabwein national record for 100m sprint.
katpiering123 2 years ago
hahahahaha
neckminit 2 years ago
@lightfoot1991 are you serious? he's running the ball into the middle of the field not in a straight line and every Rugby player eases off when they know they're gonna score a try so of course it's slow.
Anyway Sivivatu playing against Italy this weekend thou he is one of the worlds best finishers he doesn't have top end pace like Chavhanga
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago 2
What about currently is Caucau playing Rugby for Agen anymore or is he playing Rugby at all? Last I heard he was overweight but still playing good I just wish he wasn't so up himself and lost some weight and played internationally.
He could have become a great winger but as it stands he hasn't really made a his mark only at the 2003 RWC.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
rupeni will kill'em on the rugby field
282magoo 2 years ago 2
sivivatu is shit he is the most over-rated winger in NZ. Hosea Gear is the best winger in NZ consistently but never gets picked for the abs same with Tuitavake they both perform every year but never get selected. sivivatu is so shit and lazy
MrKjc100 2 years ago
hes probably just fatigued, which led to being lazy lol
at first i thought sivi was just saving energy for when hes attacking like i do but its like the 37th minute.
skuxytux 2 years ago
@cacaproot01 He's lazy and Messam knows he can't catch him either but look at him he keeps chasing right to the end. Also there's a game against the Wallabies earlier this year when Matt Giteau runs into to get a try by the sideline but Sivivatu gets lazy and lets him run right into the middle.
If I find it I'll upload it just to show you it's pretty shocking really.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
hemhemimakatekobum you're tellin bullshits. he just realizes that he will never catch him.
this guy is one of those who run during 80 minutes
so stop saying he's lazy.
cacaproot01 2 years ago
@lightfoot1991 9sec to run 65m is slow that's about my speed haha where'd did you get that from? you must of meant 6sec that seems more logical.
I'd love to see Chavanga make the Springboks again but he always seems to get injured or just not given an opportunity.
Undoubtedly the fastest in the game at the moment if only he could utilise his speed better he'd have the potential to become a great winger.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
Check the video clock, when he receives the ball from the centre it is 11 sec. he touches down at about 20s. So that is about 9 seconds as I said not all that fast!
lightfoot1991 2 years ago
he wernt going flat out bitch.
SoundLad123 2 years ago
9 seconds to run 65metres from a flying start isnt that fast, yeah he could probably run faster but please lets not get all that excited!
lightfoot1991 2 years ago
sivivatu knew he would never catch him
chavanga is the fastest player in the world
hustleboy62 2 years ago
no sadly not, thats ngwenya...
DizzeeWalshie 2 years ago
nope. nwengya's fastest 100m time is 10.5 seconds. habanas fastest 100m time is 10.2 seconds. chavanga clocked 100m in 10.12 seconds when he was only 16. hes also the national zimbabwe 200m record holder.
hustleboy62 2 years ago
Jonah Lomu once clocked a 10.6 except hes 6 foot 5 and was 115 kg.
viperviperviper006 2 years ago
it does look like sivi covered him then he just gave up, very lazy indeed !
love4life11 2 years ago
It's weird, it looked like sivi had him covered then just gave up.
UHtiger 2 years ago
Sivi covered alot of ground very quickly. must have "run out of gas" when chavanga took off
ElSpewtardo 2 years ago
Thanks thundaa123 I just added them about a week ago thought it would make it more interesting and I'm just telling the truth anyway :)
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
fuckin awesome speech boxes in there hahahaha
thundaa123 2 years ago 3
hear, hear
nicechewi 2 years ago
FIJI power. not
tyfromnz 2 years ago
"this man can really motor" is it just me or does the commentator sound like a great big flouncy poof when he says that.
alxdnld 2 years ago
Show some respect thats the great Tony Johnson ur talking about. In my opinion the best rugby commentator in world rugby.
Maddolies 2 years ago
OK, 'the right honourable Lord Tony of Johnson sounds like a great big flouncy poof' I think the thing is it gets to me when people point out the totally obvious, like on the weather. I know it's raining, i need no little pictures of clouds to work that out. My mate reckons it's so deaf people can watch it too... :-(
alxdnld 2 years ago
I agree entirely expat74 Sivi is so lazy even Messam stilled continued to chase knowing he had no chance. Sivi let Matt Giteau under the post in a Tri-Nations game earlier this year he just got lazy and didn't care.
Chavanga going by 100m times is the fastest winger around but it's doesn't really matter unless he uses it properly. Habanas probably not too much slower but he knows how to use his speed effectively and that's what makes him a huge threat for alot of oppositions.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
I read somewhere that this Chavanga is faster than Habana. Sivi just made himself look like a punk for giving up like that. Sure you got no hope in hell but show some commitment at least try and keep him in the corner to make the conversion harder but no. He should have done a Michael Johnson and pulled a hammi. Why this guys been picked year after year for the blacks is just amazing. Hes lazy as Fuck
expat74 2 years ago
i wish he could score tries like that for province
WesKaap 2 years ago
if you look closely, chavanga has an amazing bust of speed just as sivivatu gets closer...btw, sivivatu's not that bad a player guys...if he's in the all black team offcourse.
kekes218 2 years ago
well, it's probably more like Sivivatu had been sprinting at top speed to cover while Chavanga just initiated the burst,
More like the time of the burst that smoked sivi
vinniechan 2 years ago
Chavhanga slowed down near the line man...
Sivivatu is losing it man!!!
Liam Messam is bots and showd well.. that hes got good top end speed! dsnt really matter though
twizdoon 2 years ago
I reckon Sivivatu could of at least try to dive and ankle tap him but he's too lazy and he's not the diving type I think.
Sivivatu is still a very good winger and he creates something out of nothing but just in this particular video I was just showing how he got smoked due to his lazyness.
If he carried on he might of been able to be just enough of a nuisance than Messam might of come along and just caught him but we'll never know.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
i say this as an avid all black fan. sivivatu sucks. he sucks donkey balls. he is one of the worst all black wingers i have ever had the misfortune of cheering for. he fumbles the ball more than the rest of the team put together, he has decent speed (nothing special for a winger but its ok) and has no commitment or passion when he plays. he set up our only try last week in the bledisloe match, but apart from that he has been nothing but a burden. cant believe thats the best nz has to offer.
dinabio1 2 years ago
Sivivatu is miles abve Rokocoko, Sivivatu has the skills to create space and attacking opportunities from anywhere. If you notice any of the backline plays revolve around him because he is the only decent chance of the backs scoring a try
jonot2000 2 years ago
whers's CHAVANGA now ?no where to be seen exactly thats my point ,one time wonder boy!bitch ass niggas trying to slag ma boy off on youtube.
ra5119 2 years ago
Sivivatu has no passion or pride hes just in it for the pay check.
maroelis 2 years ago
fast as
Lawz0rPoo 2 years ago
yaheim, u can comment in hundreds if not thousands of different ways on this footage. I'm a fijian and I'm being honest when I say this, it's not nice at all to read comments like yours about my culture. Fijians, like many other nationalities have made a meaningful contribution to the game of Rugby, we can do without the racism.
1JT2see 2 years ago
yaheim, u don't have to get racist... This is a game, just a GAME. Not life or death, not the difference between haves and have not's.. No need to bring the tone down to the lowest common denominator by calling him a "dumb fijian"
1JT2see 2 years ago
he looked like he could have caught him but he gave up stupid fijian..
yaheim 2 years ago
lol chavangha look slike he was jogging
poonageproductions 2 years ago
I still crackup at this video because that touchie is almost faster than that benjamin take a look at the background when before he gives it off to Chavanga
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
um no he did give up.. He couldv'e been on the same side of the field and it wouldn't have made any diff. He's an opportunist winger like his mate tin of coco
TonyTai09 2 years ago
Chavanga also smoked rokococo in 2004 against the blues
TonyTai09 2 years ago
Timorum any professional rugby player is a good player you fucking idiot just because they're not the most famous of players doesn't mean they're not extremely good.
Perxzy93 2 years ago
this like that video when habana got smoked from ngwenya but who gave up? sivivatu habana didnt give up he tried something thats what i like about him
krumper894 2 years ago
sorry but who the hell is chavanga?might be fast but if I aint heard of him then he can be much of a player.....
timorum 2 years ago
then u clearly dont watch alot of rugby...
boywithnoears 2 years ago
Siti had more ground to cover then chavanga but hey....and yes ruben would of smoked their asses but siti still the better of the 2 (chavanga and Siti)
navutokaboy 2 years ago
i love the way he hardly celebrates.. thats the way lol
FlankersWell 2 years ago
Good thing about sivivatu at least he recognised he was going to be smoked and slowed down....
TonyTai09 2 years ago
hotmami ma lami lami
TonyTai09 2 years ago
lol chavangha looked like he was jogging
poonageproductions 2 years ago
all of uz that say shit about sivivatu,u guyz can go fuck urself..at lease he made it that far and also his proud of himself being n all black player... uuuu guyz go fuck ur father n ur mother
hotmami312 2 years ago
Rupeni would've smoked chavanga!!
ChUrBoltz 2 years ago
Man-shamed?? thats what the aussies said hahaha and look what happened ahahha stop the talking shit and just wait and see what the outcome is yeah??lol
GO ALLBLACKS!!!
Lesi14 2 years ago
Sivivatu stopped chasing? what a gay guy .........too much fijian foreplay with his missus.
TonyTai09 2 years ago
tonytai...bro tell ur father to fuck ur mum harder so he can have son to replace a dumb fuck like u
hotmami312 2 years ago
Can u show her how pretty pls?
TonyTai09 2 years ago
lets c that guy try it for south africa......i dont think so alllllllllllllllllllll blacks 100
JBKK187 2 years ago
All Blanks are going to be man-shamed by the Springboks this weekend!
Habana, Pietersen and Steyn are going bring the pain!
KiwiBasher 2 years ago
The title isn't misleading because he did get smoked. Of course everyone knows that he had to make up more ground being on the angle but we can't exactly ask them to make sure sivivatu's straight behind him the next time something like this happens.
Sivivatu's alot better Rugby player overall no doubt about that but when it comes to sheer speed I think Tonderai has it in shit loads.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
Talk about a misleading title. A little trigonometry would tell you Sivivatu had to cover many more metres; giving up the chase was good judgement. You know that as well as I do...
mckardnaxlea 2 years ago
lol u guys all arguing over hus better u also gotta rember that sivivatu had come across 2 the other side of the feild!!!
superpl0x 2 years ago
this vids awesome
IM highlanders supporter
they suk , someone's got to support thm
DeltaTeam31 2 years ago
Who cares about times and that all I put this video up for is to show Tonderai smoking Sivivatu and like the commentator said Sivivatu just gives up.
Times just show the potential speed they can go but doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna run that speed every time they get the ball.
Anyway Sivivatu got smoked hahaha. I'm only saying that because I'm a Hurricanes supporter.
hemhemimakatekobum 2 years ago
Please provide links to sprint times. otherwise anyone can make up any number and pass it off as fact. wikipedia doesn'tcount as fact as anyone can edit the database. official sources need to be sighted ie. springboks standing 40 meter sprint trials. until then, its aguessing game and full of shit.
Scroteypoo 2 years ago