I think the guy who made this needs to see a good doctor about his intense paranoia. MOST Americans want health care reform. Of course, most conservatives will believe anything that Fox or talk radio tells them, so they have as bad a paranoia as this moron
Yeeeees REFORM, NOT Obamacare, waaay too different proposals. We want to allow more controll to the people, and more of free market involvment. You want Big government involved. Thats different.
Yeah, more control to the people is exactly what Obama is pushing for. Of course, you morons are too consumed with acting like 5 year olds in Town Halls to discuss it and find out what it is or to have any civil discussion.
It is amazing that the behavior seen in the town halls is happening in the US, the people seriously act like they're from 3rd world countries.
Now which part of Obamas proposal (and I dont mean speaches) is for more controll of the people. Now to back up your claim please site a single line which supports your idea from H.R. 3200
Oh gee i don't know. Try watching my 25 minute series of 3 videos that takes apart HR 3200, pages 425-435, piece by piece. It took 25 minutes just to explain that. Do you have the patience for 1000 pages? I bet you don't.
I think you meant to write 'speeches' not 'speaches'. And I think you also need to realize that there IS NOT A BILL out yet! They are still in the process of creating it. Of course you morons would rather rant and rave and behave like children then play a part in creating a better health care system. It just shows the infantile mindset of the right. Instead of trying to discuss any option that would be good for all Americans, you would choose to keep the broken system we have now. MORONS!
Us "morons" Have already proposed a free market solutions to this healthcare problems. You socialists continue on proposing government expansion. All example have shown that govt. can trun a single programm withought eventually turning it into a money sink hole. And any bill which proposes govt expansion Im against it.
Interesting, well I think our government has done a pretty good job running medicare and the military, our soldiers have great health care too. Last time I checked most of our government employees have good benefits too. Of course, I work for a major corporation and have the crappiest benefits ever with CIGNA, which is because none of the insurance companies are regulated by the govt. which is why they continue to rip off Americans. Why do you think they're paying people to disrupt town halls?
what you think is absolutelly irrelevant to the facts. Military spending during Republacan admin. a lot was spent on absolutely useless crap which had nothing to do with it. Medicare is going bankrupt, it is runnning a multibillion dollar deficit as we speak. And as far as you having crappy benefits. Free market solution will fix that. If people sart choosing and buying their own polecies , it is only naturall for companies to compete by lowering price and making service better.
Last I heard the entire country is nearly bankrupt after 8 years of Bush. Who do you think got our country in to the mess we have now? Things are FINALLY starting to turn around since Obama's been in. You should be kissing Obama's black ass for what he's done for you! If the 'free market' system worked, then why can't half of America even qualify for Health Insurance?
Things are starting to get worse, the deficit is much larger in the first year of Obama, then it was in Bushes 8. He has done nothing for me. The unemployement is rising, people still loose houses. And the "free market question" You need to study this issue a bit before you start ranting. Our market hasnt been free for many many years. Govt is choking free market, allowing free market to work and lifting many restriction will work. Socialism fails all the time.
You're just full of horseshit. If the free market works, then why was our nation a complete disaster after 8 years of Bush? You idiots seem to forget that quite often.
ColonPal you seem to be and Ill quote you "full of hoseshit" Do you even read my comments? I have told you 1)Free market wasnt free for many many years now, the restrains on free market some sya have happened even before ww2. And I never denied tha Bush messed it up as well. Thus you yourself make the point that Government isnt the answer.
And again Ill repeat myself, I DONT CARE WHICH PARTY SCREWED IT UP, as eventually party changes and the screw up continues. If you blindly love this party , guess what a next party will come and in your own words will screw it up. So why give more power to any party so they can screw it up? Do you understand thi? In short Government isnt the answer, however lifting government restrictions and infusing free market is what works.
I understand what you're saying and you're simply WRONG. The ONLY thing that is going to help is if we FORCE the corporations and the banks to behave as MORAL entities. As it is, they are raking in the trillions and bankrupting the entire planet while a few people get incredibly rich. It's time to redistribute the wealth and tax the filthy rich and put money back in to our infrastructure, it's really quite simple: you just follow where all the money leads.
ColonPal I have lived in the country of your dream USSR (Ukraine) , its far fromm what you think. And you seem to be talking in Obama clips, yet you forget that 1.4 trillion bail out was taken from your idea of rich people (taxpayers) and given to you idea of needy (CITI bank Acorn, GM, GE) And if you study free market a true free market morality is already imbeded into it, If a companie charges too much, another one will put it out of business by lower the prices. Comoetition is the solution.
Got news for you: Tax Payers are not rich people. Maybe if you lived in the US for a while you'd know that. And if corporations were moral entities, we would have kept the free market system we had. The fact is that they are NOT moral entities which is why your solution would never and could never work. I don't know what would make you think I've dreamt of the USSR either. Probably the LAST place I would live.
You might want to read my previous comment as you completely misunderstand what I said. As far as corporations go, they are only enteties when corporate law is decided, corporation is a combination of people so you might want to rethink of corporation as a singly person. And USSR was the best example of so called immoral businesses taken down and wealth spread around. Also why do you think Govt, has any morals? They are all same people as some who run the "evil corporations"
When profit are the only goal, we NEVER see the best interests of the people taken, which is why the free market system is doomed to fail and has failed repeatedly throughout history. I don't know about your employer, but mine rips off it's employees on a perpetual basis.
ColonPal, you also dont know the history do you? The only time free markets fail is when tyranical leaders come to power and nationalise everything(then you really see the failure of the whole system) So your employer rips you off (isnt what you saying is that you dont have enough share in the profit?) So after all proffits is your goal? But I know about business a bit more then you, thats why I can say that there is more involved then you think.
Either that, you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about just like every other conservative moron who's made any suggestions. Usually, it takes Democrats controlling the house AND in office to make any really good accomplishments that help out all folks. Why do you think the Conservatives have failed so miserably? And why is it that 8 years of Bush who claims he wanted LESS government, nearly DOUBLED the size of government? Was he just kidding?
1)Its usually republicans when controll the house make progress, clinton's prosperety times came when Republicans were in controll, look it up.
2)How did Obama helped the people again? I didnt know that GM CITI ACORN GOLDMAN SAKS and GE were regullar people. And conservatives were not in the house under BUSH you idiot, conservatives were yelling about his expansion of govt. You barelly can hold you ground you seriously an incredibly ignorant tranny looking person.
Wow how soon you morons forget that the Repub's had control of congress AND the white house the first 4 years, and STILL Bush managed to double the size of govt, set up torture camps, destroy a city and one of our greatest landmarks and have 3 terrorist attacks on our own soil. Of course after he handed over billions to his wall street buddies and set up the biggest scam in the history of our nation by giving billions away to failed businesses, you idiots have the audacity to blame it on OBAMA?!
ColonPal, here are some problems to explain low pay. 1) Illegal immigration drives low level job salaries down 2) Excessive taxation on businesses up to 60% 3)Regulations which make running a business very costly 4)We are in economical recession , so competition for any work is fierce even if it pays low wages. And also can you tell me what is the pure proffit of you company, I mean the money you employer takes home after reinvesting, paying you and all employees , paying off taxes?
They are making record income just like the oil companies and every other major corporation in the US. If you follow the money, you'll find the ones who should pay more of their share. It's quite simple when you think about it.
Oh and btw, who is going to deside whats moral or not? 70% of our economy is moral (small businesses) But you wouldnt know that now would you, you stuck on the idea that your employer is evil. Any proffit making is evil and immoral. And free maket is the only solution, I gues you are a bit slow if you say we wouldnt have kept free market, what we have is not socialism but restrictions on competition. No seriously you dont know the basic economics , you might as well give it up.
Oh? And what infinitely moral person are you going to put in charge of making sure the "big corporations" behave as "MORAL entities"? Barney Frank? Ben Bernanke? Timothy Giethner who can't even figure out turbo tax? Give me a break! Just because someone works for the government doesn't make them moral. There is just as much room for greed and immorality in government as in corporations. Only a fool believes he can legislate morality.
These politicians have no problems pandering the citizens when they are out soliticing votes. So, why the problem facing their constituents when they exercise their first Amendment rights and express their dissatisfaction with their elected officials? VOTE THEM ALL OUT 2010 and 2012. Let's get new faces in office and these corrupt, greedy, power grabbing pols OUT of office. VOTE THEM OUT, VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Why the concern *now* about collecting private individual's data? I assume that people who believe the White House is collecting data on them did not protest when Bush did so illegally.
The White House simply asked to be informed about rumors, not people. They don't have time to deal with you because of the last eight years of Bush.
I love how you twist what is an attempt to combat disinformation into "report on your neighbor". The health care insurance industry wants to misinform by spreading inaccurate and misleading information. But when the white house attempts to combat it by hearing the rumors and debunking them they are suddenly the bad guys. All of this is black helicopter conspiracy rumor mongering. "I'm not making this up" ... yeah but you are twisting the situation to make it look like something else.
No one cares about you personally in the White House. If you've invented some new way of terrorizing seniors, like talk about "Death Panels", then the White House wants to know that "Death Panels" are being discussed.
You flatter yourself to think that the White House would take time to come after your personally. Besides, Bush and Cheney have already collected your data.
Really? Ask Mr Mike Sola who spoke out in Dingles Town Hall Meeting, with his son in wheel chair with Cerival Palsy & cancer. He was "visited" during the night and THREATENED HIS FAMILY!
Yeah -- we have AMPLE TO FEAR!
BTW - my comment was FULL of sarcasm, THEN -- but now -- it's speaks TRUTH!
It's bad enough that a government openly calls for rats to squeal on free thought, but this one isn't even offering 30 pieces of silver, a free vaccine, not even a gold star to take home and put on granny's refrigerator. Oh I forgot, you can't spend money in a FEMA camp, the vaccines are toxic and will be forced, and granny got taken to the FEMA Camp Gramp Resort and Retirement Village, you know the one by the railroad track with the smoke stack that's belching out that sweet black smoke 24/7.
I knew about the cash for cars site. It was the only site that had the warning. But, you could be right. How do we know they are not doing that on other government sites as well and just not warning us?
i know Obama's gang would get the site back up if we crashed it. But, it would sure get their attention.
Thanks for your information. I don't think I like the idea of trying to crash the Soetoro administration website. He would just request more billions of $ from congress to fix it, so I'm not sure it would work. I don't even want to get on the whitehouse site now with the warnings that they will own all the information on your computeer and can distribute even to foreign entities if they want to. See recent Glenn Beck videos on Cash for Clunkers. I think it is better to avoid connecting.
...and no one forwards anything in a normal day, right?
wakagi722 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Oct 4, 2010, funny video. have you been "flagged" yet? hasn't been pulled yet....
wakagi722 1 year ago
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wakagi722 1 year ago
Socialism doesn't pay!
BeantownJim 2 years ago
Bookhound63, thanks for a few laughs!
I really need it before I surrender myself to Obama Communication Units, code name ABC!
Next time you see me around, please be careful as I may be reeducated, and so may spread anti-disinformation to counter act your disinformation!
rumormater 2 years ago
I think the guy who made this needs to see a good doctor about his intense paranoia. MOST Americans want health care reform. Of course, most conservatives will believe anything that Fox or talk radio tells them, so they have as bad a paranoia as this moron
ColonPal 2 years ago
Please shut your pie hole ColonicPal.
gworksnell 2 years ago
Hey buddy, its your wife? Admitt it. :P
samuils 2 years ago
Yeeeees REFORM, NOT Obamacare, waaay too different proposals. We want to allow more controll to the people, and more of free market involvment. You want Big government involved. Thats different.
samuils 2 years ago
Yeah, more control to the people is exactly what Obama is pushing for. Of course, you morons are too consumed with acting like 5 year olds in Town Halls to discuss it and find out what it is or to have any civil discussion.
It is amazing that the behavior seen in the town halls is happening in the US, the people seriously act like they're from 3rd world countries.
Very shameful indeed!
ColonPal 2 years ago
Now which part of Obamas proposal (and I dont mean speaches) is for more controll of the people. Now to back up your claim please site a single line which supports your idea from H.R. 3200
samuils 2 years ago
Oh gee i don't know. Try watching my 25 minute series of 3 videos that takes apart HR 3200, pages 425-435, piece by piece. It took 25 minutes just to explain that. Do you have the patience for 1000 pages? I bet you don't.
bookhound63 2 years ago
Bookhound my comment was a reply to ColonPal's comment.
samuils 2 years ago
I think you meant to write 'speeches' not 'speaches'. And I think you also need to realize that there IS NOT A BILL out yet! They are still in the process of creating it. Of course you morons would rather rant and rave and behave like children then play a part in creating a better health care system. It just shows the infantile mindset of the right. Instead of trying to discuss any option that would be good for all Americans, you would choose to keep the broken system we have now. MORONS!
ColonPal 2 years ago
Us "morons" Have already proposed a free market solutions to this healthcare problems. You socialists continue on proposing government expansion. All example have shown that govt. can trun a single programm withought eventually turning it into a money sink hole. And any bill which proposes govt expansion Im against it.
samuils 2 years ago
Interesting, well I think our government has done a pretty good job running medicare and the military, our soldiers have great health care too. Last time I checked most of our government employees have good benefits too. Of course, I work for a major corporation and have the crappiest benefits ever with CIGNA, which is because none of the insurance companies are regulated by the govt. which is why they continue to rip off Americans. Why do you think they're paying people to disrupt town halls?
ColonPal 2 years ago
what you think is absolutelly irrelevant to the facts. Military spending during Republacan admin. a lot was spent on absolutely useless crap which had nothing to do with it. Medicare is going bankrupt, it is runnning a multibillion dollar deficit as we speak. And as far as you having crappy benefits. Free market solution will fix that. If people sart choosing and buying their own polecies , it is only naturall for companies to compete by lowering price and making service better.
samuils 2 years ago
Last I heard the entire country is nearly bankrupt after 8 years of Bush. Who do you think got our country in to the mess we have now? Things are FINALLY starting to turn around since Obama's been in. You should be kissing Obama's black ass for what he's done for you! If the 'free market' system worked, then why can't half of America even qualify for Health Insurance?
ColonPal 2 years ago
Things are starting to get worse, the deficit is much larger in the first year of Obama, then it was in Bushes 8. He has done nothing for me. The unemployement is rising, people still loose houses. And the "free market question" You need to study this issue a bit before you start ranting. Our market hasnt been free for many many years. Govt is choking free market, allowing free market to work and lifting many restriction will work. Socialism fails all the time.
samuils 2 years ago
You're just full of horseshit. If the free market works, then why was our nation a complete disaster after 8 years of Bush? You idiots seem to forget that quite often.
ColonPal 2 years ago
ColonPal you seem to be and Ill quote you "full of hoseshit" Do you even read my comments? I have told you 1)Free market wasnt free for many many years now, the restrains on free market some sya have happened even before ww2. And I never denied tha Bush messed it up as well. Thus you yourself make the point that Government isnt the answer.
samuils 2 years ago
And again Ill repeat myself, I DONT CARE WHICH PARTY SCREWED IT UP, as eventually party changes and the screw up continues. If you blindly love this party , guess what a next party will come and in your own words will screw it up. So why give more power to any party so they can screw it up? Do you understand thi? In short Government isnt the answer, however lifting government restrictions and infusing free market is what works.
samuils 2 years ago
I understand what you're saying and you're simply WRONG. The ONLY thing that is going to help is if we FORCE the corporations and the banks to behave as MORAL entities. As it is, they are raking in the trillions and bankrupting the entire planet while a few people get incredibly rich. It's time to redistribute the wealth and tax the filthy rich and put money back in to our infrastructure, it's really quite simple: you just follow where all the money leads.
ColonPal 2 years ago
ColonPal I have lived in the country of your dream USSR (Ukraine) , its far fromm what you think. And you seem to be talking in Obama clips, yet you forget that 1.4 trillion bail out was taken from your idea of rich people (taxpayers) and given to you idea of needy (CITI bank Acorn, GM, GE) And if you study free market a true free market morality is already imbeded into it, If a companie charges too much, another one will put it out of business by lower the prices. Comoetition is the solution.
samuils 2 years ago
Got news for you: Tax Payers are not rich people. Maybe if you lived in the US for a while you'd know that. And if corporations were moral entities, we would have kept the free market system we had. The fact is that they are NOT moral entities which is why your solution would never and could never work. I don't know what would make you think I've dreamt of the USSR either. Probably the LAST place I would live.
ColonPal 2 years ago
You might want to read my previous comment as you completely misunderstand what I said. As far as corporations go, they are only enteties when corporate law is decided, corporation is a combination of people so you might want to rethink of corporation as a singly person. And USSR was the best example of so called immoral businesses taken down and wealth spread around. Also why do you think Govt, has any morals? They are all same people as some who run the "evil corporations"
samuils 2 years ago
When profit are the only goal, we NEVER see the best interests of the people taken, which is why the free market system is doomed to fail and has failed repeatedly throughout history. I don't know about your employer, but mine rips off it's employees on a perpetual basis.
ColonPal 2 years ago
ColonPal, you also dont know the history do you? The only time free markets fail is when tyranical leaders come to power and nationalise everything(then you really see the failure of the whole system) So your employer rips you off (isnt what you saying is that you dont have enough share in the profit?) So after all proffits is your goal? But I know about business a bit more then you, thats why I can say that there is more involved then you think.
samuils 2 years ago
Either that, you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about just like every other conservative moron who's made any suggestions. Usually, it takes Democrats controlling the house AND in office to make any really good accomplishments that help out all folks. Why do you think the Conservatives have failed so miserably? And why is it that 8 years of Bush who claims he wanted LESS government, nearly DOUBLED the size of government? Was he just kidding?
ColonPal 2 years ago
1)Its usually republicans when controll the house make progress, clinton's prosperety times came when Republicans were in controll, look it up.
2)How did Obama helped the people again? I didnt know that GM CITI ACORN GOLDMAN SAKS and GE were regullar people. And conservatives were not in the house under BUSH you idiot, conservatives were yelling about his expansion of govt. You barelly can hold you ground you seriously an incredibly ignorant tranny looking person.
samuils 2 years ago
Wow how soon you morons forget that the Repub's had control of congress AND the white house the first 4 years, and STILL Bush managed to double the size of govt, set up torture camps, destroy a city and one of our greatest landmarks and have 3 terrorist attacks on our own soil. Of course after he handed over billions to his wall street buddies and set up the biggest scam in the history of our nation by giving billions away to failed businesses, you idiots have the audacity to blame it on OBAMA?!
ColonPal 2 years ago
Ok so, you plan to rewrite history? Why not? Liberals do it all the time.
bookhound63 2 years ago
ColonPal, here are some problems to explain low pay. 1) Illegal immigration drives low level job salaries down 2) Excessive taxation on businesses up to 60% 3)Regulations which make running a business very costly 4)We are in economical recession , so competition for any work is fierce even if it pays low wages. And also can you tell me what is the pure proffit of you company, I mean the money you employer takes home after reinvesting, paying you and all employees , paying off taxes?
samuils 2 years ago
They are making record income just like the oil companies and every other major corporation in the US. If you follow the money, you'll find the ones who should pay more of their share. It's quite simple when you think about it.
ColonPal 2 years ago
Oh and btw, who is going to deside whats moral or not? 70% of our economy is moral (small businesses) But you wouldnt know that now would you, you stuck on the idea that your employer is evil. Any proffit making is evil and immoral. And free maket is the only solution, I gues you are a bit slow if you say we wouldnt have kept free market, what we have is not socialism but restrictions on competition. No seriously you dont know the basic economics , you might as well give it up.
samuils 2 years ago
Oh? And what infinitely moral person are you going to put in charge of making sure the "big corporations" behave as "MORAL entities"? Barney Frank? Ben Bernanke? Timothy Giethner who can't even figure out turbo tax? Give me a break! Just because someone works for the government doesn't make them moral. There is just as much room for greed and immorality in government as in corporations. Only a fool believes he can legislate morality.
bookhound63 2 years ago
Well, we did it. We crashed the site.
bookhound63 2 years ago
These politicians have no problems pandering the citizens when they are out soliticing votes. So, why the problem facing their constituents when they exercise their first Amendment rights and express their dissatisfaction with their elected officials? VOTE THEM ALL OUT 2010 and 2012. Let's get new faces in office and these corrupt, greedy, power grabbing pols OUT of office. VOTE THEM OUT, VOTE THEM OUT!!!
TanasiTwo 2 years ago
Amen!
bookhound63 2 years ago
I've called and Emailed the fucks.
If I catch their support base spying,
There's no place for them to hide.
FuckObamasMama 2 years ago
Why the concern *now* about collecting private individual's data? I assume that people who believe the White House is collecting data on them did not protest when Bush did so illegally.
The White House simply asked to be informed about rumors, not people. They don't have time to deal with you because of the last eight years of Bush.
wmhogg 2 years ago
I love how you twist what is an attempt to combat disinformation into "report on your neighbor". The health care insurance industry wants to misinform by spreading inaccurate and misleading information. But when the white house attempts to combat it by hearing the rumors and debunking them they are suddenly the bad guys. All of this is black helicopter conspiracy rumor mongering. "I'm not making this up" ... yeah but you are twisting the situation to make it look like something else.
neiwert 2 years ago
I'm GULITY!
Is there someone out there willing to pay my bail when the Men in Black Suits come take me away?
GOD HELP US ALL!
Serafinos 2 years ago
Unfortunately, no. But maybe they will bury you for free.
bookhound63 2 years ago
lol Keyboard acted up -- meant GUILTY
I can actually spell when the fingers cooperate. LOL
Serafinos 2 years ago
No one cares about you personally in the White House. If you've invented some new way of terrorizing seniors, like talk about "Death Panels", then the White House wants to know that "Death Panels" are being discussed.
You flatter yourself to think that the White House would take time to come after your personally. Besides, Bush and Cheney have already collected your data.
wmhogg 2 years ago
Really? Ask Mr Mike Sola who spoke out in Dingles Town Hall Meeting, with his son in wheel chair with Cerival Palsy & cancer. He was "visited" during the night and THREATENED HIS FAMILY!
Yeah -- we have AMPLE TO FEAR!
BTW - my comment was FULL of sarcasm, THEN -- but now -- it's speaks TRUTH!
Serafinos 2 years ago
I'm reporting myself.
affectivity 2 years ago
dissention is insolence?
the natzi gov't has made its move
1x93cm 2 years ago 2
It's bad enough that a government openly calls for rats to squeal on free thought, but this one isn't even offering 30 pieces of silver, a free vaccine, not even a gold star to take home and put on granny's refrigerator. Oh I forgot, you can't spend money in a FEMA camp, the vaccines are toxic and will be forced, and granny got taken to the FEMA Camp Gramp Resort and Retirement Village, you know the one by the railroad track with the smoke stack that's belching out that sweet black smoke 24/7.
pathfinderdaddy 2 years ago 2
Contrary to what some might believe, we think and we vote. People in Congress: you might want to pay attention to what we say.
scola91660 2 years ago 4
Amen!
bookhound63 2 years ago
I knew about the cash for cars site. It was the only site that had the warning. But, you could be right. How do we know they are not doing that on other government sites as well and just not warning us?
i know Obama's gang would get the site back up if we crashed it. But, it would sure get their attention.
bookhound63 2 years ago
Thanks for your information. I don't think I like the idea of trying to crash the Soetoro administration website. He would just request more billions of $ from congress to fix it, so I'm not sure it would work. I don't even want to get on the whitehouse site now with the warnings that they will own all the information on your computeer and can distribute even to foreign entities if they want to. See recent Glenn Beck videos on Cash for Clunkers. I think it is better to avoid connecting.
CPAsheldon 2 years ago 2