@HeiHolaHello That's the problem, society's idea of "right" behavior or "normal" consciousness. "Right" behavior includes going to another country and killing strangers because a bunch of politicians declare war. "Normal" consciousness is what has led us to the widespread societal neurosis that is considered ok only because everyone has it. The ones who break the mold are the ones that push us forward. We should never lock anyone in an asylum because they don't act like everyone else.
ah yes, 100% correct theory RE; a connection between the Art & insanity.
Cats wearing human topcoats, carrying walking sticks/canes = Not at all odd, or 'insane'.
Cats with lots of colors, shapes? ewww, s h i v v e r & shudder.
Cats & Colors & Shapes
Oh My!
pf.
"Words of Advice" : if you do NOT want to be LockedUp/institutionalised - do NOT let AnyOne in the Medical, Psychiatric comm. see Drawings and/or Wrtngs (Poems).
His early cats are a little creepy . I like his work after the schizophrenia started setting in.A big problem for him through. While I think he was seeing a lot more than we see, the poor guy couldn't shut it off.
Hey guys. I'm battling from schizophrenia. I'm not asking for money or views or anything, but just for support and for people to hear me out. My psychiatrist said to let people know about your problem, but everyone thinks I'm weird and my family cannot understand or take me seriously. I made a blog about my problems, and I hope we can talk on there. My blog is battlingschizophrenia.blogspot.com . Fellow schizophrenics, you should also come. We can fight the battle together.
@Mrgyn Really? I've listened to every recording of Midnight I could find and they all end at 1:40. Every tab I've found also have nothing past 1:40. What album had this recording?
It's extremely rare for someone to develop Schizophrenia so late in life, men usually develop Sz between 16-25 years old. Rarely, women may develop schizophrenia at menopause due to hormonal changes. Also, Eugen Bleuler first described Schizophrenia in 1908, very very few psychiatrists knew of Schizophrenia just 9 years after it was first described. Retrospective diagnoses are very uncertain. For the record, Prof. Fitzgerald claimed he had Asperger Syndrome (often misdiagnosed as Schizophrenia)
That's no schizophrenic, that's him seeing a different level of reality that "normal" humans don't see. I love how our psychiatric system in their supreme arrogance and hubris thinks that they know what "normal" brains do and what "craziness" is. They understand absolutely nothing about the brain (or about the universe that the brain is interpreting). Louis Wain was probably metamorphising into a god and they locked him in a mental hospital.
@davidmartinrain How is he a close minded fool? When you seriously think schizoprenia, whcih is biological problem based on empirical evidence, is causing a man to "metamorphist" to a God, then don't be surprised when people call you a fucking idiot, because there is nothing rational about that at all.
@SlypherSpoons Empirical evidence is blanket for cowards that are afraid to transcend their fear based Type O realities. As our models of the universe change so does our understanding. You seem like the same type of person who would in 14th century would be convinced the earth was flat and call the minority would are saying it is round fools. That being said his later images are spot on with how many of the latest enhanced imagining systems see our reality. Is this a coincidence I think not.
@davidmartinrain So basically, let's deny reality and make up whatever bullshit comes to our mind. Whelp, whatever makes you feel better schizo.
Also, in the 14th century, there was already empirical evidence that the world was round. So no, your example is retarded, please come up with better ones.
@SlypherSpoons I do not recall saying let's deny reality. In the14th century more people did think the earth was flat than round the example was meant as a metaphor anyway not as a pure concrete example. I guess that your a little to immature to understand these types of things at your present point of development. Looking at how you have to resort to name calling anyone who thinks differently than you this is a waste of my time. Hope you find a nice cubical to spend the rest of your life in
@davidmartinrain Woah. Hold it bro. You were the one who called someone a close minded fool because someone called bullshit on pseudoscience. You were being the cunt first, I only responded to that, but you're crying to me about insulting you when you're still fucking doing it. Holy shit, you really are denying reality.
Here a lesson to learn from this, since you spend your life replying to youtube comments, you should realize that you are always going to be insulted when you do those things
@BlueZuluFoxtrot no doubt part of his brain snapped and it affected his perception of dimension and colours this is not schizophrenia this is something way further than that.
@BlueZuluFoxtrot they didn't diagnose him with schizophrenia because of his paintings, but his behaviour... if they did, i would be in an insane asylum by now.
@BlueZuluFoxtrot That's exactly what I thought. This is not a man progressing away from reality, but deeper into it. Modern psychiatry will institutionalize all the poor souls who realize who they really are...the universe itself, everything, a playing of patterns and vibrations...But psychiatry cannot accept altered states of consciousness that claim divinity, just as Jesus was at first condemned for calling himself a Son of God.
@BlueZuluFoxtrot Psychiatric illnesses are declared when a person is no longer capable of caring for themselves in the present sense. They are unable to cope with the very real reality of providing for themselves, making sure they are healthy and so on. If you want to define 'alternate realities' as the various configurations that the mind and senses perceive, sure, that is fine. But if you die because you stop feeding yourself, you lose any and all ability to progress.
it's widely debated as to whether or not he just had asperger's syndrome with exclusive visual agnosia, or a manifestation of extreme attention to detail. However, I suffer from schizophrenia and cane many similarities in our works...
@inedibleedible I'm just curious to know, if you are aware that you have schizophrenia, doesn't that negate the dianosis that you have one. Also, I've read that the term is a catch-all convenience and that the sickness is way too complex to pin down.
@MrAkihiros Well, I'm actually a progressed case, it is extremely ironic that I still have my connections to reality, but it's more than just psychosis NOS. I hallucinate on every sense(tactile auditory visual olfactory and the one for shit crawling on my skin). I've baffled alot of doctors and been called fake, but it doesn't really matter. It's also ironic that they(the men women and children of Nirvana) tell me to pursue selflessness. Whatever, right?
@MrAkihiros well, there may be underlying damage from my years of drug abuse, but it doesn't show up on tests, and it's been with me all my life. Thank you, though, I just manage, it's all we can ever do, sick or not.
Dr. Maclay, who collected Wain's paintings, did not know their dates of production. It is possible that he took the ones that "looked" the most "insane" and claimed to be sure that they were later productions. In truth, Wain produced plenty of "normal" paintings later in his psychosis. Perhaps he was just experimenting with pattern and colour. Britain at this time was obsessed with normalcy and judged anything unusual to be a sickness.
You should use this song for your video. its called " IN YOUR MIND " by andrew gerbasi feat steve morrison. Post me a comment and give me your opinion. cheers.
@inedibleedible Picasso as an artist was not exclusive, you could say the same thing with Pollack and Van Gogh who, incidentally, had epileptic attacks that rendered his visual world awashed with vivid and pulsating colors. He was mesmerized and for hours would just stare at the breathing hue of a sunflower. People thought he was crazy. He thought he was going insane. His epilepsy was feedling with his frontal lobe!
@sergius666 Even today this form of epilepsy is uncommon. What is interesting though is that not only is the visual faculties enhanced, but patients experience deep religious fervor. Remember Van Gogh entered a monastery but was later kicked out because, and get this, he was "too religious." Does this mean that evolution has encoded spirituality in the formation of our brains. Food for thought.
There is no correlation with schizophrenia and his work:
Almost every article on Wain uses them to demonstrate the progression of schizophrenia but the evidence for them being painted in chronological order is actually quite weak.
“with no evidence of the order of their progression, Maclay arranged them in a sequence which clearly demonstrated, he thought, the progressive deterioration of the artist’s mental abilities.”
i think this guy obsessed with cats. he was getting more and more spiritual as his work and wisdom developed. notice at first everything is more realistic then it is more dream like...more abstract..but it seems to me like he experimented with magic mushrooms. ;D
The human mind is truly an amazing thing. LSD wasn't even discovered and his work resembles what many would label as psychedelic art, he truly was a man ahead of his time, despite his condition.
quit fighting fags, dont you see this means something? damn. i sure do. it all ties into the way we think and see things...or something like that..dmt? idk who knows...but i really think it has something to do with this
Note to everyone: this story has a happy ending. Yes, he fell into poverty. The first institution he went to wasn't a nice one, per se, and he stayed there for about a year before very influential people in England found him there. They pulled together the money and sent him to a very lovely institution with a garden and many neighborhood cats. Wain's tantrums lessened and he continued drawing and painting his cats. He lived there for 15 years before he died in 1939.
I have a brother with schizophrenia who is an artist.
When he is medicated, he paints normal nice things like a sunset or animals.
When he is unmedicated, however, he will paint strange things... symbols that look like hieroglyphs, houses that are cut in half, people with upside down faces crying...
Actually what I am seeing in his work (I first read about it in Psych 101 in college) is closer to extreme OCD than anything else. He seems to be so damn meticulous about symmetry...and remember this was long long before home computers and really the only examples of fractals you could see were in snowflakes.
Wow...This is really sad, but I can't deny that it's beautiful. 1:52 is just breath-taking with the amount of fractal detail involved. I usually don't take an interest in artwork other than my own, frankly, but this is just completely beautiful. I've always been very interested in the mindsets of people who suffered from mental disorders.
Two final notes: one, the song is completely beautiful; for two, I've heard people say that Louis Wain had Asperger's Syndrome, not schitzophrenia. Hmm...
I don't know why everyone needs to invent some mental illness for him to suffer from. He was an artist, his art evolved, things change, abstraction is a trend many artists took in all fields. Studying a cat down to its most abstract parts (what you're calling fractals) is just a natural progression in his life's work. WTF. Get a grip. He was a good and productive artist even after his bereavement. Real schizophrenics are very UNproductive, especially the drugged out zombies of today.
I suppose you are a fucking expert and clearly you have his file if you're so convinced he was "schizophrenic". You're only 14, you'll grow up to realize that psychiatrists are not your friends (their only friends these days is the pharmaceutical industrial complex). He was lonely and depressed, which, when you catch up with your real age, you might understand how devastating that can be.
But seriously-where is your proof? How do you know he was a schizophrenic? Was he your 'pa?
@sfkitkat Sir, forgive me if I'm wrong, but you're coming on as paranoid. Are you? I am not bullying you or trolling, this is a real, honest question.
What I find dangerous is the haste to diagnose. Once you've been at the other end of a misdiagnosis you learn to be very careful with how you label people. And please, don't pull out that ridiculous drivel that is the DSM.
Some psychologists/psychiatrists suggest he had Asperger's syndrome rather than schizophrenia. There's nothing odd about drawing fantasy cats and many artists humanise animals in their paintings. I guess his diagnosis depends upon whether he had delusions and/or hallucinations as well as obsessive interests in (e.g.) cats.
I'm not sure if the drawings were so much related to his illness. As i understood from wikipedia, he worked as a freelance illustrator for entertainment magazines and children's books. Perhaps his apparent obsession was just the result of getting requests for similar images and in the end finding a sort of niche. And the abstract drawings could have simply been exercises in decorative abstraction.After all, he lived in the years when abstract art was all new and intriguing.
that is soo great! Dang! I wish I can paint as symmetric as that! I drew fractal-type of painting and it's not soo good. I mean comm'on, it's hard to draw a symmetric drawing! But his? WOW! It's really beautiful. Those cats are really cute! What an outstanding painter!
This is what you see for a split second on Psilocybin, before your focus quickly changes again into a part of the picture where there's a pattern, and you focus on the pattern, and see a picture which consists of something unrelated, yet what it consists of is the original picture. FUCKING HELL
i like how he started out so simple in his paintings and then obviously he kept experimenting, maybe he was on some fungal substance at the time or just somehow reached that visual level from being more at one or should say two with himself.
@MagickDog Well i don't know for sure.. I know some people have schizophrenia and are fine. Either because they have a low level of it or they can just handle it like its nothing. Im pretty sure though to be classified as "insane" means your literally out of your mind to a point in which you have no control of what to do. Your thoughts and emotions control you and you have no clue of what your doing is wrong and you think what you are doing is normal
@MagickDog being in a state of psychosis for 6 months makes you legally insane. psychosis meaning you have no awareness of reality for that long. its all kind of retarded though because if you truly believe in any religion you would be labeled by a doctor clinging to the DSM-IV like a bible, as a schizophrenic. many of my friends have been diagnosed with it and it seems drug related, i personally found i became more and more "schizo" as i took the doctors medicine. im now fairly well.
soooomebody has a strange fascination with cats xD but seriously, i dont think his..obsession..had anything to do with the disorder(: i also find it insulting.
just because hes schizophrenic doesnt mean hes seeing shit like in his paintings
maybe he was just feeling abstract
schizophrenia couldve very well changed his preferences for what he chooses to draw, your interests change with time, and while he did seem a little eccentric through some of his work, this video and the words that accompany it are insulting to us, people actually living with mental illness, specifically schizophrenia.
@ogskeetdizzle .........what do they mean by "disjointed"??........the cat at 1;32 is brilliant! he went heavy on the colors! i want it on my wall! :)
the transformation in Wain's art is really intriguing. Human cats, then cat, then radiating cat, then heavily abstracted cat, then some huge random shape.
I'm stupid. Didn't consider that posts sometimes temporarily appear twice because they get stored on different servers which need some time to align their information.
Stupid browser. Did I really click twice? And stupid Google. Don't they have a double post detection and automatic removal system? Someone ought to recommend it to them.
This is a wonderful example of the development of the psyche. The cat seems to be a symbol for his inner being, in the beginning it was imprisoned by society, and the paintings were stupid kitsch, then it freed itself from that and acquired some independence, and in the end it finally evolved into a free and abstract kaleidoscope of shape and colors. He must have been a very happy man.
Have it myself. It's not so bad as people say it is, actually kind of a spiritual experience. What you need to do is to develop this "inner cat", in most schizos it is stupid, but it can be a marvelous being, an enrichment to your whole life.
I have schiOphrenia and I could see how my drawings as a young kid differed as I got older. My people and animals too had jagged lined emulating from their body. It's definately interesting but scares me as I notice my spiral down into schizophrenia.
Since 5 years of age, I used to draw foxes in human forms and create story line series.. similar to his. I doubt the fact that him using cats in human form was a sign of his illness -.- there's more to this, which we shouldnt get into : D
Imagine being a schizophrenic and dropping acid :D
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@HeiHolaHello That's the problem, society's idea of "right" behavior or "normal" consciousness. "Right" behavior includes going to another country and killing strangers because a bunch of politicians declare war. "Normal" consciousness is what has led us to the widespread societal neurosis that is considered ok only because everyone has it. The ones who break the mold are the ones that push us forward. We should never lock anyone in an asylum because they don't act like everyone else.
BlueZuluFoxtrot 1 month ago
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BlueZuluFoxtrot 1 month ago
Bastet
Taaplari 2 months ago
@azuriteteeth In case you haven't found it yet, the song is called "midnight", by Joe Satriani ;]
d809 2 months ago
@d809 but the second song? 1:43 Im trying to found it :(
GuilleGuiden 2 months ago
ah yes, 100% correct theory RE; a connection between the Art & insanity.
Cats wearing human topcoats, carrying walking sticks/canes = Not at all odd, or 'insane'.
Cats with lots of colors, shapes? ewww, s h i v v e r & shudder.
Cats & Colors & Shapes
Oh My!
pf.
"Words of Advice" : if you do NOT want to be LockedUp/institutionalised - do NOT let AnyOne in the Medical, Psychiatric comm. see Drawings and/or Wrtngs (Poems).
peace
LIFEIZTOOLTOOLIZLIFE 2 months ago
that one with all the lines around it is kinda creepy..
MrsSianGeorge 2 months ago
His early cats are a little creepy . I like his work after the schizophrenia started setting in.A big problem for him through. While I think he was seeing a lot more than we see, the poor guy couldn't shut it off.
ekpil 2 months ago
@ekpil though not through
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Hey guys. I'm battling from schizophrenia. I'm not asking for money or views or anything, but just for support and for people to hear me out. My psychiatrist said to let people know about your problem, but everyone thinks I'm weird and my family cannot understand or take me seriously. I made a blog about my problems, and I hope we can talk on there. My blog is battlingschizophrenia.blogspot.com . Fellow schizophrenics, you should also come. We can fight the battle together.
jaco0bx 2 months ago
The last few cats remind me of some of the stuff I saw in my acid trips
Doggieman1111 4 months ago
@Mrgyn Really? I've listened to every recording of Midnight I could find and they all end at 1:40. Every tab I've found also have nothing past 1:40. What album had this recording?
snytbaggen 5 months ago
@snytbaggen Found it! It's "The Forgotten (Part 1)" by Joe Satriani, if anyone wonders.
snytbaggen 4 months ago
am i the only one who finds this terrorfying??
scarywinkoproductios 5 months ago
Does anyone know the name of the second song from 1:42 and onwards?
snytbaggen 5 months ago
his schiz art is very modern and present as in it is now. i am glad to see he had this much awareness at his end. what a beautiful event.
djsirtifiable 6 months ago
lol. the Joe Satriani track is probably what's making this video scary (if it is that to some)..
elem5284 7 months ago
@elem5284 I completely agree!
butterfly1341 5 months ago
When I first watched this video, I had Mello's theme playing...
BlackMita 8 months ago
It's debated whether he was schizophrenic at all, and most certainly this music is just too fucking melodramatic.
Mah7i 8 months ago
dmt cats
SolarGamer 8 months ago 9
@SolarGamer exactly
Caligula138 1 month ago
It's extremely rare for someone to develop Schizophrenia so late in life, men usually develop Sz between 16-25 years old. Rarely, women may develop schizophrenia at menopause due to hormonal changes. Also, Eugen Bleuler first described Schizophrenia in 1908, very very few psychiatrists knew of Schizophrenia just 9 years after it was first described. Retrospective diagnoses are very uncertain. For the record, Prof. Fitzgerald claimed he had Asperger Syndrome (often misdiagnosed as Schizophrenia)
Diamonddavej 9 months ago
That's no schizophrenic, that's him seeing a different level of reality that "normal" humans don't see. I love how our psychiatric system in their supreme arrogance and hubris thinks that they know what "normal" brains do and what "craziness" is. They understand absolutely nothing about the brain (or about the universe that the brain is interpreting). Louis Wain was probably metamorphising into a god and they locked him in a mental hospital.
BlueZuluFoxtrot 9 months ago 3
@BlueZuluFoxtrot you're a fucking idiot.
camsterb3333 4 months ago
@camsterb3333 And your a close minded fool
davidmartinrain 4 months ago
@davidmartinrain How is he a close minded fool? When you seriously think schizoprenia, whcih is biological problem based on empirical evidence, is causing a man to "metamorphist" to a God, then don't be surprised when people call you a fucking idiot, because there is nothing rational about that at all.
SlypherSpoons 2 months ago
@SlypherSpoons Empirical evidence is blanket for cowards that are afraid to transcend their fear based Type O realities. As our models of the universe change so does our understanding. You seem like the same type of person who would in 14th century would be convinced the earth was flat and call the minority would are saying it is round fools. That being said his later images are spot on with how many of the latest enhanced imagining systems see our reality. Is this a coincidence I think not.
davidmartinrain 2 months ago
@davidmartinrain So basically, let's deny reality and make up whatever bullshit comes to our mind. Whelp, whatever makes you feel better schizo.
Also, in the 14th century, there was already empirical evidence that the world was round. So no, your example is retarded, please come up with better ones.
SlypherSpoons 2 months ago
@SlypherSpoons I do not recall saying let's deny reality. In the14th century more people did think the earth was flat than round the example was meant as a metaphor anyway not as a pure concrete example. I guess that your a little to immature to understand these types of things at your present point of development. Looking at how you have to resort to name calling anyone who thinks differently than you this is a waste of my time. Hope you find a nice cubical to spend the rest of your life in
davidmartinrain 2 months ago
@davidmartinrain Woah. Hold it bro. You were the one who called someone a close minded fool because someone called bullshit on pseudoscience. You were being the cunt first, I only responded to that, but you're crying to me about insulting you when you're still fucking doing it. Holy shit, you really are denying reality.
Here a lesson to learn from this, since you spend your life replying to youtube comments, you should realize that you are always going to be insulted when you do those things
SlypherSpoons 2 months ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot Well said sir.
davidmartinrain 4 months ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot Yeah, let's ignore the violent mood swings, his mental deterioration. Fucking dumbass.
SlypherSpoons 2 months ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot no doubt part of his brain snapped and it affected his perception of dimension and colours this is not schizophrenia this is something way further than that.
hideHYDEimcoming 2 months ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot
I hope you understand just how much you're anti-Science attitude is dangerous.
Rephrenix 2 months ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot
I hope one day you'll realise just how much your demagogy is dangerous.
Rephrenix 2 months ago
@Rephrenix you must watch this /watch?v=KwMu6Y10naU
Foryeva 1 month ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot they didn't diagnose him with schizophrenia because of his paintings, but his behaviour... if they did, i would be in an insane asylum by now.
HeiHolaHello 1 month ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot That's exactly what I thought. This is not a man progressing away from reality, but deeper into it. Modern psychiatry will institutionalize all the poor souls who realize who they really are...the universe itself, everything, a playing of patterns and vibrations...But psychiatry cannot accept altered states of consciousness that claim divinity, just as Jesus was at first condemned for calling himself a Son of God.
Foryeva 1 month ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot nope. wrong.
mastaace604 2 weeks ago
@BlueZuluFoxtrot Psychiatric illnesses are declared when a person is no longer capable of caring for themselves in the present sense. They are unable to cope with the very real reality of providing for themselves, making sure they are healthy and so on. If you want to define 'alternate realities' as the various configurations that the mind and senses perceive, sure, that is fine. But if you die because you stop feeding yourself, you lose any and all ability to progress.
vpetitee 2 weeks ago 3
Women CAUSE schizophrenia in MALES.That's the truth.
xQuinnWolfx 9 months ago
@xQuinnWolfx You ARE an IDIOT. That's the truth.
littlesparrow 9 months ago
@xQuinnWolfx If you didn't have females at all you'd be even MORE schizophrenic.
violetvanille 8 months ago
This makes me sad :'(
FaithGalvan 9 months ago
Anyone knows the name of the song?
BlitzKriegDelay 10 months ago
@BlitzKriegDelay: Dude, it has the song linked. Artist: Joe Satriani, Song: Midnight
tombrokaw3 10 months ago
was he doing any drugs like shrooms at the time?
blunty6feetunder 11 months ago
@blunty6feetunder: No, just schizo. This is more like LSD, which wasn't created til the 60's or something
tombrokaw3 10 months ago
it's widely debated as to whether or not he just had asperger's syndrome with exclusive visual agnosia, or a manifestation of extreme attention to detail. However, I suffer from schizophrenia and cane many similarities in our works...
inedibleedible 11 months ago
@inedibleedible I'm just curious to know, if you are aware that you have schizophrenia, doesn't that negate the dianosis that you have one. Also, I've read that the term is a catch-all convenience and that the sickness is way too complex to pin down.
MrAkihiros 11 months ago
@MrAkihiros Well, I'm actually a progressed case, it is extremely ironic that I still have my connections to reality, but it's more than just psychosis NOS. I hallucinate on every sense(tactile auditory visual olfactory and the one for shit crawling on my skin). I've baffled alot of doctors and been called fake, but it doesn't really matter. It's also ironic that they(the men women and children of Nirvana) tell me to pursue selflessness. Whatever, right?
inedibleedible 11 months ago
@inedibleedible Hey good luck to you. You sound like any 'normal' guy to me who's had a bad acid trip he he he. Cheers.
MrAkihiros 11 months ago
@MrAkihiros well, there may be underlying damage from my years of drug abuse, but it doesn't show up on tests, and it's been with me all my life. Thank you, though, I just manage, it's all we can ever do, sick or not.
inedibleedible 11 months ago
Is it just me or is this really fucking creepy?
iszalgocomin 11 months ago
Kind of a chesire cat thing
0NEVERHIDE0 1 year ago
Dr. Maclay, who collected Wain's paintings, did not know their dates of production. It is possible that he took the ones that "looked" the most "insane" and claimed to be sure that they were later productions. In truth, Wain produced plenty of "normal" paintings later in his psychosis. Perhaps he was just experimenting with pattern and colour. Britain at this time was obsessed with normalcy and judged anything unusual to be a sickness.
Kiddalee 1 year ago
When you're ill you can't function- He was going at it harder than a china bull.
HOW DO YOU SPOT MENTAL ILLNESS IN ARTISTS?
WHEN THEY FEAR THE BASTARDS LIVING IN THIER PAINTINGS!
HOW DO MENTAL ILLNESS SHOW IN WORK?
WHEN IT'S A BLANK CANVAS & IT'S THE BEST YET.
AlburyAustralia 1 year ago
the thing that creeped me out the most? him and his wife had a cat named peter :)
tommiedepew1 1 year ago
it's like he became another person.. like he was taken over.
ColdMourning 1 year ago
You should use this song for your video. its called " IN YOUR MIND " by andrew gerbasi feat steve morrison. Post me a comment and give me your opinion. cheers.
randyandy1960 1 year ago
The guy loved cats :)
interactiveartsNI 1 year ago
Beautiful artworks. Could it be that, judging from their output, that Picasso, Dali, and others were also struggling with their schizophrenia?
MrAkihiros 1 year ago
Actually picasso was a visionary. He wanted to rebuild the world with eyes noone but a true artist would understand.
inedibleedible 11 months ago
@inedibleedible Picasso as an artist was not exclusive, you could say the same thing with Pollack and Van Gogh who, incidentally, had epileptic attacks that rendered his visual world awashed with vivid and pulsating colors. He was mesmerized and for hours would just stare at the breathing hue of a sunflower. People thought he was crazy. He thought he was going insane. His epilepsy was feedling with his frontal lobe!
MrAkihiros 11 months ago
@MrAkihiros most possible
sergius666 10 months ago
@sergius666 Even today this form of epilepsy is uncommon. What is interesting though is that not only is the visual faculties enhanced, but patients experience deep religious fervor. Remember Van Gogh entered a monastery but was later kicked out because, and get this, he was "too religious." Does this mean that evolution has encoded spirituality in the formation of our brains. Food for thought.
MrAkihiros 10 months ago
@MrAkihiros as I suffer from both epilepsy and mild schizophrenia as to say. I can tell you, you are right.
It´s just fascination. even being an atheist one wonders about that what lies beyond! even if there is only darkness
sergius666 10 months ago
@sergius666 There's a saying that 'mad' people are mad not because they see LESS, but because they see MORE. Good luck to you my friend.
MrAkihiros 9 months ago
What ? You don't see fractals in the cats ? Are you blind ? :)
Schizophrenia is really the evolution of Sapiens.
We can use our brain to view the quantum secrets, not you.
Be as us, just become schizophrenic ! ;)
PeekSiegen 1 year ago 3
the internet is morons
beastbrain 1 year ago 2
as a schizophrenic, the music gives us a bad rep. try changing the music to Claude Debussy- Clare de lune. I did it and it is amazing not scary
TheTribefan88 1 year ago
@TheTribefan88 If you think this music is scary, you certainly must be schizophrenic.
tauwilltriumph 1 year ago
what is the name of the song at the beggining? I want to learn this one
FunkyVagina 1 year ago
There is no correlation with schizophrenia and his work:
Almost every article on Wain uses them to demonstrate the progression of schizophrenia but the evidence for them being painted in chronological order is actually quite weak.
“with no evidence of the order of their progression, Maclay arranged them in a sequence which clearly demonstrated, he thought, the progressive deterioration of the artist’s mental abilities.”
AnttiApinaPro 1 year ago
i think this guy obsessed with cats. he was getting more and more spiritual as his work and wisdom developed. notice at first everything is more realistic then it is more dream like...more abstract..but it seems to me like he experimented with magic mushrooms. ;D
cruzsk8ing 1 year ago
The human mind is truly an amazing thing. LSD wasn't even discovered and his work resembles what many would label as psychedelic art, he truly was a man ahead of his time, despite his condition.
TakeYorTen 1 year ago
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Zorati775 1 year ago 3
wow great vid! and the music adds this whole creepy atmosphere to it !
tyracomrie 1 year ago
2:09 i can still see the cat......
klbozwell 1 year ago
quit fighting fags, dont you see this means something? damn. i sure do. it all ties into the way we think and see things...or something like that..dmt? idk who knows...but i really think it has something to do with this
askweed 1 year ago 2
Note to everyone: this story has a happy ending. Yes, he fell into poverty. The first institution he went to wasn't a nice one, per se, and he stayed there for about a year before very influential people in England found him there. They pulled together the money and sent him to a very lovely institution with a garden and many neighborhood cats. Wain's tantrums lessened and he continued drawing and painting his cats. He lived there for 15 years before he died in 1939.
Tehtify 1 year ago 19
I have a brother with schizophrenia who is an artist.
When he is medicated, he paints normal nice things like a sunset or animals.
When he is unmedicated, however, he will paint strange things... symbols that look like hieroglyphs, houses that are cut in half, people with upside down faces crying...
hoitdoigs 1 year ago 2
Two words -- Beatrix Potter.
RussianCause7 1 year ago
@RussianCause7
YEP.
sfkitkat 1 year ago
Schizophrenia is a terrible disease. Such a shame about this poor man, yet at the same time fascinating.
hotelmario510 1 year ago
omg 0:40 im gunna have nightmares
blackkat77 1 year ago
@blackkat77 LOL
UniQueLyEviL 1 year ago
Disturbing & tragic.
cf. "Split", a four part opus by the Groundhogs, available on Youtube
rogerstill71 1 year ago
also, if you go to bing.com and type in Louis Wain under images, you can find about 5-6 more trippy cat paintings...
youisiaint 1 year ago
Actually what I am seeing in his work (I first read about it in Psych 101 in college) is closer to extreme OCD than anything else. He seems to be so damn meticulous about symmetry...and remember this was long long before home computers and really the only examples of fractals you could see were in snowflakes.
youisiaint 1 year ago
@youisiaint Mosaics? Mandalas? Church stained glass windows? Kaleidoscopes?
sfkitkat 1 year ago
Wow...This is really sad, but I can't deny that it's beautiful. 1:52 is just breath-taking with the amount of fractal detail involved. I usually don't take an interest in artwork other than my own, frankly, but this is just completely beautiful. I've always been very interested in the mindsets of people who suffered from mental disorders.
Two final notes: one, the song is completely beautiful; for two, I've heard people say that Louis Wain had Asperger's Syndrome, not schitzophrenia. Hmm...
MutantClannfear 1 year ago
@MutantClannfear
ABSOLUTELY. I don't know about Asperger's (please.. ),but he certainly was NOT SCHIZPHRENIC. Effing "mental health professionals" need an education.
sfkitkat 1 year ago
@sfkitkat
I don't know why everyone needs to invent some mental illness for him to suffer from. He was an artist, his art evolved, things change, abstraction is a trend many artists took in all fields. Studying a cat down to its most abstract parts (what you're calling fractals) is just a natural progression in his life's work. WTF. Get a grip. He was a good and productive artist even after his bereavement. Real schizophrenics are very UNproductive, especially the drugged out zombies of today.
sfkitkat 1 year ago
@sfkitkat Actually, he was a schizophrenic. Who happened to be an artist. Don't act like such a fucking expert, because you aren't.
hotelmario510 1 year ago
@hotelmario510
I suppose you are a fucking expert and clearly you have his file if you're so convinced he was "schizophrenic". You're only 14, you'll grow up to realize that psychiatrists are not your friends (their only friends these days is the pharmaceutical industrial complex). He was lonely and depressed, which, when you catch up with your real age, you might understand how devastating that can be.
But seriously-where is your proof? How do you know he was a schizophrenic? Was he your 'pa?
sfkitkat 1 year ago
@sfkitkat Sir, forgive me if I'm wrong, but you're coming on as paranoid. Are you? I am not bullying you or trolling, this is a real, honest question.
hotelmario510 1 year ago
@hotelmario510
What I find dangerous is the haste to diagnose. Once you've been at the other end of a misdiagnosis you learn to be very careful with how you label people. And please, don't pull out that ridiculous drivel that is the DSM.
sfkitkat 1 year ago
Oh im sorry are we all MEANT to be mindless consumer zombies. The picture in 1:33 is true mindfull art, reminds me vaguely of some of Alex grey's art
585788 1 year ago
Some psychologists/psychiatrists suggest he had Asperger's syndrome rather than schizophrenia. There's nothing odd about drawing fantasy cats and many artists humanise animals in their paintings. I guess his diagnosis depends upon whether he had delusions and/or hallucinations as well as obsessive interests in (e.g.) cats.
misstiggykins 1 year ago
I'm not sure if the drawings were so much related to his illness. As i understood from wikipedia, he worked as a freelance illustrator for entertainment magazines and children's books. Perhaps his apparent obsession was just the result of getting requests for similar images and in the end finding a sort of niche. And the abstract drawings could have simply been exercises in decorative abstraction.After all, he lived in the years when abstract art was all new and intriguing.
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interesting but really how is it creepy that he has a unique perception. labels will destroy the world...
i agree
progixx 1 year ago
that is soo great! Dang! I wish I can paint as symmetric as that! I drew fractal-type of painting and it's not soo good. I mean comm'on, it's hard to draw a symmetric drawing! But his? WOW! It's really beautiful. Those cats are really cute! What an outstanding painter!
801Milcah 1 year ago
interesting but really how is it creepy that he has a unique perception. labels will destroy the world...
ratfinkskates 1 year ago
This is what you see for a split second on Psilocybin, before your focus quickly changes again into a part of the picture where there's a pattern, and you focus on the pattern, and see a picture which consists of something unrelated, yet what it consists of is the original picture. FUCKING HELL
cm2dude 1 year ago
im sure the rely abstract ones still looked like cats to him
DesertSmeagle 1 year ago
i like how he started out so simple in his paintings and then obviously he kept experimenting, maybe he was on some fungal substance at the time or just somehow reached that visual level from being more at one or should say two with himself.
oli0880 1 year ago
@MagickDog Well i don't know for sure.. I know some people have schizophrenia and are fine. Either because they have a low level of it or they can just handle it like its nothing. Im pretty sure though to be classified as "insane" means your literally out of your mind to a point in which you have no control of what to do. Your thoughts and emotions control you and you have no clue of what your doing is wrong and you think what you are doing is normal
crammiddleschool 1 year ago
his paintings resemble shit you'd see when you're trippin on shroomssss
BrunoSRO 1 year ago
Bullshit branding the desease! He is a real ARTIST!
iwonthisfight 1 year ago
how exacly does one come to be classified as 'Insane'?
MagickDog 1 year ago
@MagickDog being in a state of psychosis for 6 months makes you legally insane. psychosis meaning you have no awareness of reality for that long. its all kind of retarded though because if you truly believe in any religion you would be labeled by a doctor clinging to the DSM-IV like a bible, as a schizophrenic. many of my friends have been diagnosed with it and it seems drug related, i personally found i became more and more "schizo" as i took the doctors medicine. im now fairly well.
ratfinkskates 1 year ago
soooomebody has a strange fascination with cats xD but seriously, i dont think his..obsession..had anything to do with the disorder(: i also find it insulting.
MagickDog 1 year ago
oh whatEVER
just because hes schizophrenic doesnt mean hes seeing shit like in his paintings
maybe he was just feeling abstract
schizophrenia couldve very well changed his preferences for what he chooses to draw, your interests change with time, and while he did seem a little eccentric through some of his work, this video and the words that accompany it are insulting to us, people actually living with mental illness, specifically schizophrenia.
dkjfsfh 1 year ago
all of the paintings are so beautiful
deathgirl5666 1 year ago
Very interesting vid, great art and music fits very well.
MaaraDeklaLaima 1 year ago
What an insulting video...
Great cat art.
RawryMcRawr 1 year ago
Those early paintings remind me of the album art for Mellon Collie.
Floydian6973 1 year ago
Very interesting!
Comcouveflor 1 year ago
i find this fascinating
scarlette629 1 year ago
Always amazes me
Whatthebubble 1 year ago
beautiful. beautiful...
I hope he didn't suffer in his mental state.
AskOracle 1 year ago
@AskOracle he probably did though
awv92 1 year ago
I don't know about anyone else, but I think I prefer his schizophreic art.
It's very neat, and somehow less insane-looking.
JohnRichard1991 1 year ago 47
thank you.
inedibleedible 11 months ago
@JohnRichard1991
because of all the symmetry perhaps?
Digalog 10 months ago
@JohnRichard1991 I agree. His initial drawings of cats look stiff to me and his later drawings are more expansive and interesting.
Donna55959 6 months ago
yikes
AntiPsychopath 1 year ago
Wains ok! havent ye all heard of the "mad genius"!!
acerb45666555 1 year ago
I have to say that I am finding this video to be horribly hypnotic...have corrupted several people by showing them it ! Love it ! Fantastic !
Mig65943 1 year ago
I like his schizophreic artworks better.
grmelo 1 year ago 6
DMT
ogskeetdizzle 1 year ago
i like this video a lot thumbs up!!
ogskeetdizzle 1 year ago
@ogskeetdizzle .........what do they mean by "disjointed"??........the cat at 1;32 is brilliant! he went heavy on the colors! i want it on my wall! :)
acerb45666555 1 year ago
@acerb45666555 Disjointed with reality. Real cats (like in the first few paintings) do not look like the cat at 1:32. Sadly. :(
TrimVle9001 1 year ago
terrifying.
izmarit31 1 year ago
Yeah manic depression AD Disorder this is all fucked up. Depression syndrome. Bipolar manic Depression all true
tohruhonda11 1 year ago
the transformation in Wain's art is really intriguing. Human cats, then cat, then radiating cat, then heavily abstracted cat, then some huge random shape.
initialdluvr 1 year ago
As if...
Brakvash 1 year ago
what is the music pls?
pelican79 1 year ago
What's this music? I love it! Peace
Kadosknight 1 year ago
thanks for sharing i just stumbled upon this but found it quite fasanating thanks x
thereddragon95 1 year ago
I'm stupid. Didn't consider that posts sometimes temporarily appear twice because they get stored on different servers which need some time to align their information.
moleculeColony 1 year ago
Intelligent system. Takes a little bit to react, but works well.
moleculeColony 1 year ago
Stupid browser. Did I really click twice? And stupid Google. Don't they have a double post detection and automatic removal system? Someone ought to recommend it to them.
moleculeColony 1 year ago
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This is a wonderful example of the development of the psyche. The cat seems to be a symbol for his inner being, in the beginning it was imprisoned by society, and the paintings were stupid kitsch, then it freed itself from that and acquired some independence, and in the end it finally evolved into a free and abstract kaleidoscope of shape and colors. He must have been a very happy man.
moleculeColony 1 year ago
free and happy? i take it youve never met anyone with paranoid schizophrenia. those cats were probably trying to convince him to kill himself.
fontfont 1 year ago
@fontfont
Have it myself. It's not so bad as people say it is, actually kind of a spiritual experience. What you need to do is to develop this "inner cat", in most schizos it is stupid, but it can be a marvelous being, an enrichment to your whole life.
moleculeColony 1 year ago
bunk
57 year old people do not GET
schizophrenia
young adults Get schizophrenia
if one suffers from it at the age of 57
it means they have had it since they were
in their teens or twenties
racedinghy 1 year ago
and asshole of the year award goes to...
dbBosco1 1 year ago
bro this is fucking beast
OGST33L 1 year ago
thats sad
Sharpie817 1 year ago
I have schiOphrenia and I could see how my drawings as a young kid differed as I got older. My people and animals too had jagged lined emulating from their body. It's definately interesting but scares me as I notice my spiral down into schizophrenia.
PecanSandy309 1 year ago
the music, is it Joe satriani? ok i like the paintings, they are more then just a cat
schizofrenzy666 1 year ago
Yeah the first song is Midnight by Satch, dont know what the second song is called though
twiggy6692 1 year ago
thanks twiggy
schizofrenzy666 1 year ago
i think he was just trippin balls
glenmason92 1 year ago 34
Satriani!
JW852 1 year ago
really good vid, i might even present it in class
Shinigami537 1 year ago
That made me shiver a few times. His first psychedelic cat. holy. Goosebumps after that.
Cd3 1 year ago
The song is Joe Satriani - Midnight
bluepizza92 1 year ago
I guess he didn't see the difference :P lol...the song is very kool ;)
LegendaryApashe 2 years ago
It's Joe Satriani...cant remember the song name.
Caael 2 years ago
pretty cool song.
velcor 2 years ago
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Omg, while beautiful the only thing that comes to mind is "furry". <_<;
Kultid 2 years ago
That's the kind of wacky shit you see when you smoke salvia.
nbryc 2 years ago
Yeah, tell me about it!
First time i tried it I was in a dark park at midnight, freaked me the hell out!
beliha 1 year ago
Since 5 years of age, I used to draw foxes in human forms and create story line series.. similar to his. I doubt the fact that him using cats in human form was a sign of his illness -.- there's more to this, which we shouldnt get into : D
TheGreenysky 2 years ago