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  • I always use morote so far I'm 8-1

  • Check out my huge UCHI MATA THROW VIDEO!!

  • @Chiragana nice

  • Bjj originated from Judo. However, due to the sport emphasis more emphasis is placed on standing in judo. Bjj focuses more on the ground fighting aspect.

  • neither one is superior. its just a stylistic difference.

  • judo's all about standup grappling, bjj is all about the floor. very different, but both are awesome.

  • @GribMurder You are mistaken. It's a common misconception due to Sport Judo and the rules that govern the techniques used to win. Ne waza is literally ground technique. We practice off of the back or dominant using chokes, joint locks, and escapes. Some instructors are heavily into the sport aspect and limit what students learn and practice. Others teach all techniques including striking which incorporates elbows, punches, kicks, and more. Judo is very broad when all technique is taught.

  • @MrAristes I stand corrected then..

    just how much time then do non-sport types spend on their backs, on the ground etc? 30%? 50%?

  • @GribMurder Unfortunately, it's hard to answer that. The Sensei and club environment usually dictates that. Some days we spend half the class practicing falls and techniques like sweeps and throws without completing the technique. You weren't totally incorrect in your assumption. I was given a gift certificate to attend 5 BJJ classes. I didn't go to the ground until the last class but the majority of work by students was ground. A lot of foot sweeps. Driving distance kept me from attending.

  • @GribMurder thats the misconception u havent see tourneys when they go to the ground they have a minute to submit vs five to fight for the sub who you think is faster getting subs a judo guy or a bjj guy . plus lets not talk pins and stand up which bjj has nill .... bjj is judo newaza look it up dont take my word for it u can search here in you tube judo newawa and then try to see who is emulating who

  • Are you a black belt at Judo? if so, come down to our Gym and we will find a white belt for you to test out the theory. Peace bud..It's all in the learning

  • Anyone who thinks judo can match bjj on ground is deluded. Lots of judo black belts will lose to a good bjj white belt.

  • @juicespirit i do BJJ, and i have to say that's probably the dumbest shit Ive heard in a while. while BJJ on average is better on the ground, and Judo on there feet. that's only because BJJ dedicates all there time to ground work. I'm pretty sure a judo black belt has trained on the ground enough to beat a white belt.

    honestly i would say the opposite, good luck for a bjj black belt to throw a judo white belt. BJJ throws suck, and are watered down as hell.

  • @techfighterminal so why do you do BJJ for then if it is so profficient on the ground buddy holly?

  • @juicespirit *if judo is so profficient on the ground

  • @juicespirit i'm just trying to make out wtf you just said

  • @techfighterminal bjj black belt can't win a judoka blackbelt on the ground.

  • Im a Boxer and i think all Styles can get the job done just not karate. But i've been looking at videos with karate and it hasn't never been doing good

  • Wow ! nice one !

  • !(◎_◎;) and stars all starting dancing

  • nice ippon ;x;x;x

  • judo covers stance grappling and a bit of ground grappling....bjj mostly covers ground...judo has proved to be one of the best martial arts in the world,so did bjj...the conclusion is that grappling is the best in any way of that word :)

  • HELL YEAH !! 2 bad they banned leg grapple.

  • @XChaosXSniperX Traditional judo, as created by Jigoru Kano, is perfectly suited for a real fight. Traditional judo includes not only tachiwaza (standing techniques) and newaza (grappling, submissions, chokes, strangles), but also atemiwaza (striking) -- though striking isn't taught until a judoka reaches black belt. As for its combat effectiveness, judo has been incorporated into MCMAP (US Marines), Krav Maga (Israeli Defense Forces) and Sambo (Russian military) for a reason.

  • @XChaosXSniperX

    With respect, take a look at UFC 1-4. I'm not a Gracie fanboy, but Royce Gracie pretty much showed exactly what happens when strikers don't know basic grappling in order to counter it. And that was back in the "wild days" - no weight categories, hardly any rules. About the only thing you couldn't do back then was eye-gouge or small joint manipulation, IIRC.

  • @XChaosXSniperX I take you down with a throw then submit you with my BJJ skills. Lol Game over.

  • Judo is great. I have bounced and used it a lot. I have taken fellow bouncers to class and they also believe it's great for that type of work. Japanese police learn Judo. I am in the process of teaching a friend who is applying for Canadian police, so he has some kind of clue of how to defend himself and manipulate an opponent on his feet, NOT from his back.

  • uhmmm yes i play competitive chess.. and it is way harder..

  • IPPON MUTAHFUCKA!! 

  • NICE!!

    I do Judo (1Kyu), Karate (Goju Ryu), MuayThay, And KravMaga.. personally.. I have the most fun on the Judo mat..

  • bravoO,this was perfect!

  • no accident

  • i disagree. i do bjj aswell and they arent better than the other they just compliment each other. judo dominates standing, bjj dominates the ground. why not do both? there not better or worse.

  • @randomjudoguy101 ye i think you're right about that ! but i like Bjj more but that's more my thing. everybody got his own.

    later

  • @randomjudoguy101 You would be more complete if you do Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai, or Judo and Boxing. One striking and one grappling, as it should be ;D

  • @randomjudoguy101 I agree 100%. I got introduced to BJJ through our criminal justice program at my college. I just recently began actively training again after a long pause. But all the schools I've been to have cross-trained Judo throws to compliment your BJJ ground game. I think they're a deadly combination when trained together.

  • @randomjudoguy101 hi man. i do bjj and i would like to throw my opponents as you do. perfect execution.

    very nice throw judoguy !!

  • @randomjudoguy101 Agreed!

  • @randomjudoguy101 that reminds me of the fact bjj comes from judo lol..

  • @randomjudoguy101 If taught correctly judo Has AMAZING ground work ;P just find a good school.

  • @randomjudoguy101 in essence bjj is judo newaza so judo will always have the upper hand its a complete art

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  • @sonnych69 not really, atleast not modern judo. Modern judo is only relegated straight arm locks and choke holds, whereas bjj contains a plethora of armbars, shoulderlocks, leg locks, toe holds, ankle locks, chokes, etc. Plus the rules that govern the sports make practitioners develop skill sets; because groundwork is only relegated to 30 seconds in judo, there is less emphasis on the ground than in bjj.Judo focuses more on throws and takedowns than ground game.The two arts compliment eachother

  • @dksilentbobyou really need to research the subject more i have. all bjj submissions come from judo and if u belleve bjj has a plethora of armbars i doubt it jus because u put a twist in it doesnt make it bjj . its called self discovery meaning people who practice submissions have done it before. leglocks is easy to trans ie sambo . thats y bjj is teaching throws now cause bjj is incomplete judo is not bjj is going backwards while judo gets stronger all bjj subs have japaneese names tinkboutit

  • @sonnych69 I'm almost a brown belt in bjj. I train with guys who've done judo. I know what I'm talking about. Judo isn't the same as it was back when Kano Jigoro invented it. The Olympics pretty much limited the scope of judo so that it focuses more on throws rather than ground game. Bjj focuses more on the ground than on takedowns. Training in one or the other gives you a different set of skills. A bjj black belt tends to be better at submissions than a judo black belt. That's pretty much fact

  • @dksilentbob well i practice kosen judo which bjj emulates and everything in bjj thru purple is done in white yellow theres a difference in olympic judo and true kodokan judo i here the same arguement that judo is outdated peopledont have an idea how its practice in japan and true judo dojos name one sub that bjj has that judo dosent omoplata -udegarami leglock ashi garami ezeqiel choke Sodeguruma-jime triangle choke sankaujime and the list goes on gracie got beat by yoshida with basic choke

  • @sonnych69 well, you could have been more specific. when most people mention judo they're usually talking about Olympic judo. And Royce isn't that great compared to a lot of other black belts. He just happened to be the first guy to show the effectiveness of bjj to the entire world. As far as grappling goes, I mainly do bjj plus have a solid wrestling background plus a little judo and sambo to round out my skills, and many bjj schools these days teach that other stuff as a supplement

  • @dksilentbob Not completely true if your speaking of Olympic Judo then yes most of the focus is on the throw but freestyle Judo under AAU rules everything is points from subs to pins to take downs to position this modern Judo >Olympic is not Modern Judo and remember most advanced competing Judoka are crossed trained in BJJ or if competing in freestyle have a good Newaza base there are some vid here on you tube

    and yes they compliment each other.

  • @glock70 Well, thanks for clarifying. The point i'm trying to make is that a lot of these comments I read about this style versus that style are pretty fucking stupid. BJJ is better, no Judo is, Sambo, catch wrestling blahblahblah. I like grappling. I like fighting. At the end of the day, who the fuck cares what style it is as long as it gets the job done?

  • @dksilentbob True a lot of dumb comments on here but I think most of it comes from lack of knowledge I train what ever I can get my hands on I like to think my base is judo because that is were I am strongest but I cross train Jitz because I know my ground needed improvement> I train boxing & Karate but I still cross train in Kick boxing because I know it would improve my stand up ,Its about a open mind a lot guys on here don't have one no art is complete if there was there wouldn't be mma

  • @Junaamhier kimora vs gracie... enough said.

  • @Junaamhier very ignorant statement.....a blue belt statement u just made......

  • @bumhokim kom niet haten .

  • @Junaamhier That's kind of dumb to say, If you train judo and utilize those skills you will be a very good bjj wrestler. There is a judo guy at my bjj academy and he does a sick throw were he knocks the wind out of his opponents. If you mix judo with bjj it makes you that much better. Discriminating against other styles is just stupid.

  • @Junaamhier bjj originates from judo, dumbass

  • @Junaamhier hahahahahaha the funny thing is bjj started from judo if you knew tht so they are the same thing but they have a lil different moves

  • @Junaamhier no style is better it is how you use the style of fighting any style can beat any style i do wrestling bjj judo and boxing all the grappling styles help the others

  • @Junaamhier

    lol yoshida who is a judoka just owns the BJJ genius and master royce gracie.even matt hughes beat royce down with JJ.

  • @Junaamhier - Yeah nice one mate. I guess you don't do MMA or Judo. Why don't you enter the dutch judo open or the cage?? Oh thats right you just sit in your little BJJ club and like to think your the toughest man alive because whatever you do just must be the best. People like you are such try hards

  • @Scarfie20 Were the fuck are you talking about man.

    I am the youngest at my club and i just said that because that was my opinion.

    I already admit that randomjudoguy that he's treu about that so just fuck off.

    Man get some respect.

  • @Junaamhier - Get some respect? Have you read your own comment? I said that (in your words) "because that was my opinion." So it should be lekker right? LOL. By the way your the 3rd bjj guy from Amsterdam I've heard talk down about judo. Why doesn't the couch at your club who seems to talk down about judo all the time go down to amstelveen and show Fedor Emelianenko how much superior bjj is than judo. You guys just don't respect other martial arts

  • @Scarfie20 oh Now we dont respect other martial arts. my teacher is also a black belt judo and we got allot people who do kickboxing taekwondo and that kinda martial arts youre talking trash.

    Sure we respect other martial arts but i only said that i like BJJ better.

    So just chillout and read what i said I agreed with the judo guy and said he's right about that.

    And what happened in your life that you are so angry or something against BJJ.

    and BJJ people ?

  • @Junaamhier - ok.... - angry at bjj?? just calling it as i see it

  • @Scarfie20 sorry for my english i am still a dutch guy.

  • judo is for real men, not those who are kept from trying it by their girlfriends incase they get hurt :) tell her to put the whip away and get a gi on, shes more of a man than you keith haha

  • @randomjudoguy101

    Seem like the guy who did the slam might have hit his head also.

  • @Big10Kev you're thinking of wrestling

  • The fact that you see something sexual in grappling sports reveals your secret homoerotic phantasies

  • @Big10Kev me thinks you get a little hot when you come into contact with other men. Yeah, you best not do it if you have such strong gay feeling. Pick a less skilled and safer sport man. GL with those feeling, it's cool to be gay these days, don't worry about it.

  • @Big10Kev Well dude any judoka can kick your ass...so stfu

  • poor stupid. maybe you got an injury in your brain....

  • @Big10Kev If you think judo is gay go find a judo guy on the street and see how gay it is. He won't slam your ass on a mat, he will break your body on the pavement.

  • @Big10Kev you'd get your shit rocked by any individual who trains in judo, so don't try to pull the homosexual card it gets old.

  • @Big10Kev you say judo is for gays who roll around on the floor but then u say bjj is better.do u have any idea what u r on about??????????????????? i think u r just a troll

  • @Big10Kev Judo isnt even about ground game shows how much you know. Ignorant kid

  • @GarytheGOD1 Judo has a series of moves called Newaza or "ground work". Look it up.

  • @JimboSlice51 yes but if there is an ippon or two wazari's the match is stopped you are only allowed 20 seconds on the ground unles you have the in a hold down

  • @GarytheGOD1 sorry I was being a tool, I thought you were replying to someone else's comment, yeah, that kid is an ignorant doushe bag...

  • @JimboSlice51 dont worry about it lol

  • @Big10Kev you should tell that to a judoka in person

  • If you like Kata Guruma and want to comply with the new rules, search "cross grip kata guruma" or it's Sambo variation, the "Melnitsa". Very fast, very unexpected.

  • I searched for that and nothing turned up

  • Nice throw. At the time this was not illegal but under the new IJF rules virtually all leg picks are now illegal and han soko maki ( Your out of the tournament ). They are doing this to promote ippon Judo. Sucks for those who like kata garuma ( drop ), te guruma or kibitsu gaeshi.

  • that is correct, luckily for me my favourite throws are tomoe nage,uchi mata, tai otoshi..kata guruma was my favourite...but yeah. and this move is still legal as of new ijf rules as it wasnt a direct leg grab, it was a clear counter throw:)

  • @randomjudoguy101 stupid wrestlers ruining all of our fun!

  • @randomjudoguy101 u can also do a combination into the throw

  • @randomjudoguy101 now i have to relearn judo :( been doing a wrestling type of judo since the beginning :(

  • @randomjudoguy101 I've only ever competed under the IJF, so idk if the USJA has different rules for throws like kata guruma. are they still 100% legal in their rules?

  • Not illegal; just require a pre-entry throw combination, most people put in a small entry technique action, it needs to be definate, then attack as usual.

    eg Kouchigari then leg grab is fine...???

  • @dfallout I know! My favorite throw was sukui nage! Oh well... I guess I'm just gonna have to settle for a modified tani otoshi.*sighs*

  • @dfallout well, this particualr example is still allowed. see the oppononent has a one sided grip.

  • @dfallout I hate the new rules about leg grabbing, I think it's bullsh*t.

    As for the BJJ comment, I have trained both, both have their strong points. None is better, that's a stupid statement. it really depends how you use it. I do know that learning both is better then either one singled out.

    As for the video, very nice throw.

  • @JBass2222 The new rules about leg grabbing are great, as far as competition is concerned: leg grabs require the least technique out of all of the throws, so this encourages competitors to improve their judo.

  • @ThatScot but limits the techniques available

  • @dfallout

    yep.

    I must admit that now it looks more elegant, like an uchi mata, harai, osoto, etc.

    it was frustrating seeing so many wrestling moves in Judo competitions, just strong explosive guys grabbing a leg and picking people up.

  • wait, isn't that illegal to do that?

    You can't fucking lift some guy up off the ground for more then 2 seconds

  • i think you can, search for the throw:

    Kata Guruma

    how you wanne do that less then 2 sec??

  • actually its called te guruma(: and its perfectly legal.

  • yeah yeah, i know its called Guruma, but its from the Kata-Waza throws.

  • its different than normal, thats traditional, almost anything goes

  • fuk tht must of hurt.. i fought in the under 81kg and the guy landed on my head knocked me out lol

  • darren you tank, lucky you didnt kill the poor kid

    -jake bensted

  • i was front row centre for that one poor kid that did the throw came off second best almost, he smashed his head worse than the guy being thrown, he didn't know where he was afterwards

  • haha yeahh i know man was worth it though got a bit of a concussion but it was well worth it:)i knew were i was i just couldnt stand without everything sorta...hyperreal lol:)

  • oi this is Davids bro Andrew u gotta teach me those moves im hell weak

  • yer man this is Davids bro Andrew like that is hell good fighting good on ya keep it up!!!!!!!

  • Yeah bro! Go Darren, lol

    Its David btw

    Man you should teach me some of that kung fu shit some day =p

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