Ancient Macedonian words in Homer's Iliad PART 3

[dimiballas]

Pointless video...you put up Greek words found in Homer's Iliad and because these words passed on through Slavic dialects you proclaim that there is a separate "ancient Macedonian" language...of course the language of the people living in FYROM use in their dialect Greek words as the use Latin based and mostly Slavic based words...every language which derives from Slavic, German or Latin uses Greek words...not only the language spoken in FYROM today...that doesn't make it "ancient"...

[AndreasDourin]

So idiots they translate Greek to Slab and they say they where Slab words so pathetic you are fucking idiots...YOU CAME TO MAKEDONIA AT 600AC HOW HOMER CAN KNOW YOUR LANGUAGE WHEN YOU DONT EXIST FUCKING IDIOTS.

[Peristerygr]

0:33 Homer: cholos Modern Greek: Cholos meaning gall (we nowdays using this word for a man who misteps because of hurt leg)!

0: 43 Modern Greek pheno(mai): be made to appear, to appear!

0:54 Homer: pteroeis= Modern Greek "ptero" or "ftero": feather Hint :Pterigio: wing (f.e. of a plane)

1:17 Homer:Pausousa Modern Greek: Pausousa(it isn't used much in common speech but i use Pauso.Pavo(= to stop, to sease) it is used!

1:28 Homer:Eris Modern Greek Eris(Iris) or "Irida" or "Erida"=quarell

[Peristerygr]

1:41 Homer "Treis" Modern Greek "treis"!!!! (as an adjective, the nomber is "treia")=three

1:54: Homer: Dora (D is actually "th" like "this") Modern Greek: "Dora"(sing:Doro)=gift

2;05 Homer: Podos=genitive of Podas Modern Greek: Podi [also "d" is "th"(is)]=foot -podas is also used but not very commonly!

3:57 Homer Thnesko: Greek also thnesko and its products: "Thanatos"(=death), 'thnitos"(=mortal) "thnishmotita"(=death rate) even pethainw(= to die)

[Peristerygr]

Learn some Greek before you upload such videos if you want a serious discuss and not nonsences!

[NENDOSIA]

THE SKOPJE LANGUAGE IS A MIX OF EVERYTHING SO OF COARSE YOU WOULD HAVE GREEK WORDS. BUT SINCE YOU DID NOT ENTER THE BALKANS UNTIL THE 9'TH CENTURY HOW DO YOU FIGURE YOU HAVE ANY TIES TO HELLENIC HISTORY?

[MrLlleonidas]

all this exambles

is greeks word to!!

you have in your slavic languange some greek words ,so what?

[balkhara]

Ами те повечето славяни от нашата група ползват тези думи, а ние - всички от тях :)))

При това, кой казва, че Омир е дошъл до нас в оригинал? :))))

Дълга история, но добро начало на изследване! :)

Трябва да си помагаме! :)))

[BERZITI]

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[patriotceMKD]

HAHAH FUCK GREECE-MAKEDONIJA ONLY

[sunfromGovrlevo]

Eyrynomos has replied to your comment on Macedonia is Greece

4and FYRoM speak Slavs

RISTO HELP HIM

CANT UNDERSTAND THIS SLAVS WORDS

[JonathanGiann]

@sunfromGovrlevo all the words you've shown exist in the modern greek language, with those definitions.

[fraerot]

nice video

[sunfromGovrlevo]

zygste has replied to your comment on Macedonia is Greece

I am so frustrated, I listening Bulgarian and I cannot explain,

why sound Macedoniski

I am feeling kinda down...

RISTO HELP!!!

HELP ME , HELP ME BEATLES SONGS IS NOW

HAHAHAH

RISTO HELP HIM

ZYGSTE CANT TRANSLATE THIS BULGARIAN WORDS

[sunfromGovrlevo]

lekos28 has replied to your comment on Macedonia is Greece:

SunfromKumanovo, Vardaskians are TURKS who speak a slavic language!

NO I SPEAK MACEDONIANS

[sunfromGovrlevo]

In the same collected edition, Prof. J. Kaleris says that "the Macedonian language was often used with the purpose of winning the trust of the Macedonian people." In the periodical Mesiniaka, J. Kordatos, a historian and sociologist, undeniably declares that the ancient Macedonians spoke a language different from Greek.

ΣΤΟ ΓΡΕΚΟΣ ΟΗΙ ΡΑΖΒΙΡΑΣ

[GemistusPletho]

@sunfromGovrlevo

A crackpot. There are thousands upon thousands of ancient Macedonian artifacts... all written in either Koine or Attic Greek dialects. If you had an emperical leg to stand on you'd produce physical evidence of this claimed "ancient Macedonain" language. You can't though because ancient Macedonians spoke a Greek dialect (and were the ones to spread and standardize Koine Greek incidentally)

[ToniCarmonte]

hahahha!

you are soooo funny little slav! xD

wake up.... MACEDONIA WAS;IS AND WILL ALLWAYS BE HELLENIC! ;)

[CassanderMakedon]

I am ANTI NATO and ANTI EU!The fascist organization who invent the modern Greeks!

MACEDONIA FOREVER!

[sunfromGovrlevo]

"Alexander the Great speaks in front of the Macedones of his army: "The Macedonians are going to judge your case," he said. "Please state whether you will use your native language before them."

OR MAY BE ALEXANDER MACEDONIAN SPEAK LANGUAGE OF MENON, OR LANGUAGE OF BURNED FACES, OR ACHAIANS ATHENS,SPARTASSO  SO - CALLED

HELLAAAS

[psonio3d]

OMG , all these words are Greek you morons...

Are you still trying to prove that an elephant is related to an ant?

Wake up FyroSlavobulgarians...

[MACEDONIANHELLINISM]

The funny part of this childish video is that it does not even use the Greek grammar...

Oh well.. wake up Slavic brothers..

The dream is about to end.. and reality will dawn like a new day..

Ancient Macedon was a Greek Kingdom.

[Zorro11144]

You just proved that Slavic have a lot of Greek words in it.Daimon=Daimon (Δαιμον) allos=allos (αλλος) Sumpas=Sympan (Συμπαν) ouden=oute (Ουτε) skeptouchos=Skeptikos(Σκεπτοκο­ς) and this comparison is in modern Greek.

[Zorro11144]

You say anten this the Greek word Anti (Αντι) you say aipsa in modern Greek we say apsis (Αψης) you say cholos we say it in modern Greek too. cholesterin (χοληστερινη) comes from cholos. You say pteroeis we say ptero(πτερο).You say pausousa we say pause (Παυσε).Dora=Dora (Δωρα).Tris=tria (Τρεια)

podas=podi (Ποδι) in Greek etc etc.

[terry387]

This video is greatest lot of nonsense I have ever seen. Ancient Macedonian what a joke. Your language is slavic idiom of Bulgaria. We have nothing to fear , it is Gruevski and his nutbags who are the problems spreading misinformation onto unsuspecting people.

[alevas29]

I agree with JamesGREEK26!!!!!!!Sorry men but your videos are full from inaccurates!!!!!You must to read again the Homer!!!!!!

[MacedonianSoGreek]

Robert Morkot, British historian:

"In the northwest, the peoples of Molossis (Epirot province), Orestis and Lynkestis spoke West Greek. It is also accepted that the Macedonians spoke a dialect of Greek and although they absorbed other groups into their territory, they were essentially Greeks."

("The Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece", Penguin Publishing USA, January 1997)

[MacedonianSoGreek]

Nicholas Hammond, British scholar:

"All in all, the language of the Macedonians was a distinct and particular form of Greek, resistant to outside influences and conservative in pronunciation. It remained so until the fourth century when it was almost totally submerged by the flood tide of standardized Greek."

("A History of Macedonia" Vol. ii, 550-336 BC)

[MacedonianSoGreek]

1.

The inscriptions from Macedonia are all written either in Attic (koine) Greek, or a Greek dialect showing affinities both with the north-western ('Doric') dialects of Epirus and with the north-eastern ('Aeolic') dialects of Thessaly. This is the Macedonian dialect of Greek. If the ancient documents preserved today on stone reveal only those two possibilities, there is clearly no basis for a separate language.

[MacedonianSoGreek]

2.

It may be noted that Plato (Protagoras 341C), in referring to the Aeolic dialect of Lesbian authors, calls it barbaric by which he may intend crude or rough, but Greek all the same. It might also be noted that when the Roman conqueror in 167 B.C., Aemilius Paulus, called together representatives of the defeated Macedonian communities, his Latin pronouncements were translated for the benefit of the assembled Macedonians into Greek (Livy 45.29).

[JamesGREEK26]

Homer never talks about ancient Macedonians neither in Iliad nor in Odyssey simply because Iliad talks about the tenth year of the Trojan war between the Greeks and the Trojans. (I've read iliad and odyssey like 20 times) The Macedonians had nothing to do with that war because they didnt exist at that time and even if they existed they had no connection to theTrojans. It's like saying that Homer talks about the Americans in Iliad.

[MacedonianSoGreek]

Q: How can you tell when a FYROMian is lying?

A: His lips are moving.

[SWIFTerMKD]

Вистината на виделина!

[ISTORICAR]

Bravo , uste ednas !

[CAKIMacedonian]

Браво брат!

[HandsomeStranger1963]

:-)

[forevermkd]

*****

[CasperMKD]

Брат,секоја чест !!

Работиш сто на саат !!Само напред и ќе ги ебеме мајмуните !!

Братски поздрав !!

[makedoncheto]

Macedonia for the Macedonians.

What is it that the greeks fear most???

Answer: The Macedonian Truth.

Thank you for this video