BlazBlue: R-1 (Noel) vs Buppa (Jin)

[RoundedBlade]

Sweet, my two favorite CS/CS2 players back in CT. This was a fantastic match amongst fantastic players.

[LordArion201]

wen ur doin a combo, y does the combo-hit-counter sometimes turn pale/transparent?

[AjiraCtelin1993]

Wha--? How the hell is Jin freezing Noel!?

[GatlingSmash]

@Svo256

That Jin is one of the very best and could probably hand your ass to you. :)

[Shadowslay23]

@GatlingSmash agree that jin is buppas jin... never in ur more outrageous dreams u would win a rebel against him

[GeseIIschaft]

@Svo256 lmao you're funny XD, made my morning thanks.

[kiseki1]

@Svo256

The thing Japan has miles over us is making people scared to barrier burst. You will get baited and you will feel like a salty POS for trying it, ^_~.

[heartlesswizard]

It's like R-1 was consciously trying not to go from 5C to 2C, which is my usual preference. Instead he followed it up with 5D (didn't work), jump cancel forward +/- attack (worked sometimes), jump cancel forward barrier block, and optic barrell (didn't work).

[RakeBone]

very nice rapid at the end, total win moment

[FieryShaverdian]

I'm so tired of Jin's shenanigans.

When I see someone maining him, I just choose Tager.

[SergentSNAFU1]

@FieryShaverdian I do the same

[ChfMojoRising]

What is that move R-1/Noel is doing @3:29 to get out of the corner pressure? It was used earlier in the vid, and I've seen it before but never knew what it was lol. Is it her Counter Assault?

[ninjaboy1111]

@ChfMojoRising yup.. pressing 4A+B while gettin attked.. will allow noel to escape while gettin attked.... dats basically it... jus a counterattack...

[JudgmentAir]

epic rapid cancel at the last moment o.o

[Redtoemonster]

How does buppa make the 5C -> Air Combo work on standing noel? I can't ever seem to get it to work on the smaller characters.

[platefork]

@Redtoemonster

timing

for smaller chars, delay j.C and j.D

its almost impossible in online play(delay/lag)

[saltydog284]

wat u mean system

[congospork1]

suck on that jin

[bongotongolongo]

Buppa lost omq all my dreams and idols just vanished ....

[ShadowBaofu]

Great battle with plenty of highlights. Mine was the double trade at 2:31

[squazydee]

This was an awesome match!! does anybody know how to do that move of Noel's, like the one in 0:40, where she dashes to the other side.

[NostalgiaGoggles]

It's Noel's counter assault, you can press forward + AB while guarding for 50%. Everyone has a different counter assault, Noel's is an invincible dash

[DarkFiraga64]

Does anyone else find it ironic that Jin (sword) has more range and actual projectiles than Noel (guns)?

[ashimoshuken]

well to be fair jin got ice too

[TheClubbman]

@DarkFiraga64 Even more of a mind fuck when you bring Nu into the picture.

[Xninja2456]

Great match it was even right down to the last round

[Dooba101]

Problem with Noel is that her drive is superior to most of what she has. Most ofther character's drives only augment a specific aspect, she just gets invulnerability frames and takes a fourth to half of your life. -.-

[shadowthing246]

So wrong.

All of her normals are really good, except for 2a. 5d is only useful for going through some attacks. Drive is mainly for juggles. I mean, 2d is good as an overhead and some characters can't escape ranged drive strings, but other than that her drive is a double edged sword.

[Dooba101]

The only way its double edged is if you get counter hit! I have swung through the stupid drive so many times as Hakumen, Ragna, and Jin that I could write a book about it, not that I plan to. I figure more than 90% of scrub players have trouble with her drive, since most Noels anchor on the fact that it has absolute priority over anything on reaction. Cept Snow Storm, cuz that is LOLZ! -> Pwned...

[shadowthing246]

You can pretty much DP out of drive at any point unless the Noel is smart and set a frame trap like (Drive) 6c -> 5b. And if you let them go into 6c, the move is slow as hell, then you deserve to eat it.

[Dooba101]

Alright, I have not looked up the terminology for some of this stuff, and my mind can not work this out. So now I shall make myself a total noob. What does DP mean exactly? I thought for a while it referred to drive moves.

[shadowthing246]

Um, DP is a universal fighting game term for dragon punch ala Shoryuken from street fighter. A DP is always a 263 motion. They all have invulnerability from frame 1.

[Dooba101]

Oh. Well, aside from me feeling insanely stupid, like I said I haven't looked up much terminology, and Blazblue is the first that I am absolutely set on getting. Though I didn't think Volcanic Viper had invinc, nor stun dipper, just that they were freaking fast and if you hit you hit, you missed, your boned.

[Zaigar]

@shadowthing246 623*

[justingamemaster]

@Dooba101 DP stands for dragon punch, and it is the act of doing the same input you would do to do ryu's dragon punch.

So you press forward, down, down-forward + A/B/C/D. Or, 623A/B/C/D if know num pad terminology

[Dooba101]

TYVM. Someone else told me too, but your explanation is a bit more helpful. Turns out my friend didn't know either, and still hates the fact that such moves exist. Lol.

[NettoSaito]

Nice! and lol Noel can really be a pain to fight sometimes. Once she gets her combos in you just have to wait for them to end sometimes X_x

[leodheme]

i'm a noob, what's the combo moves from0:41

i can understand numpad direction and "ABCD" button

[REALIST510]

R-1's Noel is the best ive seen

Buppa has an unstoppable Jin

Kaqn has an unstoppable Ragna

IMO

[OscarMaris]

clearly his jin is not unstoppable, he just lost lol

[shadowthing246]

Gucci is better.

[Gorillazareking]

Man, I'm a big fan of Buppa but, yeah. Respect for R-1. I wish more Noel players realized that she has three other buttons besides D.

[chostylish]

O_o i've only come across a few Noel players that do that. I think the dreaded rumors of Noel's drive abuse is completely exaggerated. It's like she can't use Drive more than 3 times in a match otherwise it's considered spamming. (I've been told that, btw.) if a Noel is winning by (or getting away with) solely pressing D, then someone needs to think more and play better. That stuff is practically non-existent. Since it can easily be stopped. These kinds of comments are getting old.

[guildwarsdabest]

aye, i main noel and her drive is extremely unsafe when spammed. But the comments complaining about her drive spam still have some truth.

its not that its effective (which it isnt), but that its just not fun to play as. Plus it gives the rest of the decent noel players a rly bad name =,=

[bombapinoy]

ok thank you. i use that and it is so useful. thanks again for the help.

[bombapinoy]

how do you roll for noel like on 0:41?

[NewOldSchoolGamer]

23C pretty much just angle the analog down right and she does the slide if thats what you wanted to know

[bombapinoy]

it was more like a dodge though. she rolled to the other side of jin. I've never seen that before

[NewOldSchoolGamer]

I think I know what you are talking about it should be on the command chart to do it i think if it isnt it my suggestion is to check out a site called dustloop they should have your answer

Im new to BB also im coming off of GG

[peachezncreamdr]

its a dead angle, its performed with 50 heat and using forward+a+b while in block stun

[Dekeeve]

it's noel's counter assault

[joeirl]

Thats Noel's Counter Assault. You press 6AB while guarding your opponents attack. But by doing this you consume 50 heat. Every character has this ability. Its usually used to knock the enemy back to give you some breathing room. But Noel "rolls" behind instead of an attack. Try it out.

[RakeBone]

2:33 Noel started to go matrix

[cesarinleyva]

Does anybody know how Jin can dash in the air after freezing with Drive move, like in 1:37.

I'm not able to do it, any help?

[hamsterjohn]

Did you super jump cancel after the 5C or jump cancel? It needs to be super jump canceled. In general from my experience the best Jin combos go with a super jump cancel.

[cesarinleyva]

Thanks a lot, high Jump is working now.

:)

[xBANGERx]

Super jump and mash air dash after drive. If it's not working, you're not mashing hard enough. Mash so that an air dash is input as early as possible, which is only a fraction of a second before he lands.

[RRFCaptain]

Yeah that shit is some futuristic BB technique that only guys like buppa can do, apparently.

[diasflac0g]

Hey what was that "dash" move that Noel was doing? it almost looked like King Of Fighters roll!! :o

I noticed it took like 50% meter too.

[guildwarsdabest]

that................. is 1 scary noel o.o

as for the other comments, i u have trouble vs a spammy noel, block 1 hit and then poke them, universal tip, works for everyone, it can fail, but spammies are not exactly smart enough to think of clever change-ups with that.

back to vid though, i found R-1 on rankings but i cant dl the replay hes got uploaded, any1 know why?

[plb063]

R-1 makes very interesting uses of Noel's moves o.O epic 5D burst baiting. Can't say I'm a fan of the 214D -> optic barrel but hey, it works. R-1's better than me anyways so who am I to criticize!

[zenzybar]

Damn, talk about being in the zone.

[JosedGeminis]

It's sad, I can see myself actually doing all of this, I think about doing stuff like this in actual matchs but my fingers just don't respond accordingly. Practice and more practice is the way to go.

[RRFCaptain]

Buppa went too easy... he should have followed up all those times he B'd R-1 off the ground when he doesn't tech immediately. He missed like 4 good combo opportunities.

[guildwarsdabest]

omg, i wish R-1 would coach me O.O

i was starting to feel confident after learning some combos, but i feel like a noob again after watching this .

rather refreshing to see a jin user who does not just spam C like the button's on fire

[aryan2004]

awesome match

[pazuuzuuuu]

R-1 makes me look like a toddler

[shugodothack]

Buppa makes me look like an ant.

This game is easy to learn and play, which I like. But it's hard to master. Nothing that non-stop practice can't fix.

[ZhangHe2369]

Just remember, Understanding the system and your character will serve you much better then learning the specific execution of your combos. Eventually, you'll be able to just "wing it" if your good enough. If you remember step by step, it will be hard to adapt to the chaos of this game.

[GatlingSmash]

Well said!

[KeikunFPSPinoy]

@ZhangHe2369 Beautiful

[Tsuraga]

R-1 is soooo good

Using spring raid to punish bursts and even RCing the spring raid if it whiffs

Amazing

[Hellbornchaos]

holy shit amazing fight!

*spoiler* Especially at the end when both players use the barrier burst and one person wins with a sliver or health left

[mushdog]

Buppa's ground combos are SICK! I wish I could pull those off.

[Rocann]

honestly, as a noel main, this is the best match I have ever seen, both players are nuts!

[ultim8p00]

You need to watch Aikouka's Noel. He makes Tager look like a little bitch.

[raymkkkk]

who is Aikouka's and were is his channel i'd like to see him

[ultim8p00]

Just search for Aikouka Noel in youtube

[JamesLeit]

Great match. Buppa's Jin is top notch.

[d3f1anc3]

ugh is that combo-mode or w/e Noel goes into her drive? It's so hard to get away from once it gets started.

[blzdout]

Not really. Your probably on a corner when someone does it to you.

[plb063]

You can block in between most of her drive attacks lol. Or jump away or jab her off of you.

The ones that lock you down don't do all that much damage anyway. The drive as a whole is meh but it can be pretty intimidating.

[JosedGeminis]

Annoying more than intimidating.

[plb063]

Intimidating to new players*

If you're a veteran and find it intimidating, you obviously have a problem. Hell if you find it annoying, you have a problem... I find it fun. Free counter hit combos <.<

[JosedGeminis]

I'm not new but I don't think Im a veteran. I find it annoying because...well I do xD. it's weird I'd actually preffer fighting vs Nu than Noel.

[d3f1anc3]

Yea I've learned how to deal with her a lot better since game launch.

[Makingnewnamesisdumb]

My favorite thing to do in between her drive attacks is to show her my GIGANTIC TAGER!

[RRFCaptain]

DRRRRRRIVER!

[Makingnewnamesisdumb]

Driver? I JUST MET HER!

[RRFCaptain]

OHHHHHHH MAN *BA DUMP TSH*

[Megadeth080]

Nice vid

[Xenmaru00]

CONDOM? What the hell?

[LavaEdge324]

Noel's nickname in Japan lol.

Has something to do with how her VA's name sounds, IIRC.

[GatlingSmash]

Yes. Kondou -> Kondomu. Ragna's VA gave the nickname.