The Fugs - Kill For Peace

[lezwitch]

Tuli Kupferberg, a poet and singer who went from being a noted Beat to becoming, in his words, “the world’s oldest rock star” when he helped found the Fugs, the bawdy and politically pugnacious rock group, died on Monday in Manhattan. He was 86 and lived in Manhattan.

July 12, 2010

[mikekadas]

Kill for Peace - The Fugs [East Village, New York] - 1966 - "AMG Pick. It has a UK Punk attitude with a definite anti-war xenophobic feeling from the Viet Nam era." - Fugs Second Album (Fantasy)-1994.

NOTE: If you don't like this song, may I suggest Toby Keith's "God, Guns and The American Way" song: Courtesy of the Red White and Blue. :-)

[Tyrol00]

Oh! you did this! It's strange, I searched this song last night to post it on fb!

[Entropy56]

It doesn't matter that their lyrics were bombastic or idiotic; they were simply against the establishment.  Now they are all Democrats. How times have changed – or not....

[thecountofbasie]

@Entropy56 As long as there's an establishment, there's going to be someone to speak against it, right or wrong...but isn't that the point?

[blastofre]

@Entropy56 Why do you say their lyrics were bombastic or idiotic?

[chuckie0308]

This song says so much especially on a day like today, the day after the death of the mass murderer Osama Bin Laden.  What have we really accomplished with killing him???

[thecountofbasie]

@chuckie0308 I hate to say, I'm asking that same question myself

[blastofre]

@chuckie0308 Nothing at all. It was just an action to make Americans happy with military control of the Middle East. Although it isn't at all for our benefit that they are there.

[laughsquad007]

@chuckie0308 helping disband al quida

[lezwitch]

@chuckie0308 A Good Time was had by all

[Wehategod]

Man The Fugs and The Mothers of Invention changed Music

[thecountofbasie]

@Wehategod I have to add the Velvet Underground to the list...and all three released their first albums before Sgt. Pepper

[MasterrFlamaster]

@thecountofbasie

Have you heard folks about The Monks?

First european proto-punk band.

Btw, VU released VU & Nico after Sgt. Pepper ;)

[thecountofbasie]

@MasterrFlamaster According to a quick Google, VU & Nico was released March 12, 1967, and Sgt. Pepper's UK release (slightly before the American one) was June 1st...still only a few months' difference...can't say I'm familiar with the Monks, however, but you've certainly piqued my curiosity

[MasterrFlamaster]

@thecountofbasie

Oh, indeed, sorry - my bad ;)

[CornyPoopDude]

@MasterrFlamaster not really european, they were all american GI's based in germany

[emerpus01]

@MasterrFlamaster Weren't the Monks actually American servicemen on leave or AWOL, I think?

[MrBrianlowdown]

this song is todays song from the 60,s what have we learned...frank zappas song trouble today is also a mirror

[thecountofbasie]

@MrBrianlowdown Trouble Coming Every Day was inspired by the Watts riots...may the situation not get to that point again, but one can't unfortunately be sure...time is cyclical...and yes, we still haven't learned enough...thanks for the thoughts

[moxie96]

Does anybody hear a little dead kennedys in this?

[thecountofbasie]

@moxie96 Just shows how far ahead of their time groups like the Fugs could be...this was released in 1966

[AmericaIdol2012]

@thecountofbasie If it was in 1966, they weren't ahead of their time. THey would have been dead otherwise, and nobody, like me, would have known about them. So shut the fuck up.

[thecountofbasie]

@AmericaIdol2012 I do so love non sequiturs...

[jtragic]

@AmericaIdol2012 whatthefuck?

[whocaresomg2]

@AmericaIdol2012 You're very name shows how ignorant you are. "American Idol"? Fuck it!

[pataphysician66]

@moxie96 Yes!

[TheStupidDrunk]

@moxie96 As a matter of fact no, but I do hear a little fugs in the dead kennedys.

[TheDarthZoso]

@moxie96 definitely. good call. 

[TheDarthZoso]

@moxie96 definitely. good call 

[DoAction]

@moxie96 No. Actually, I he.......Oh. Someone already said it.

[bwanna23]

What would the Fugs be if not for the tambourine?

[piiglumps]

the fugs were punk before punk!!!

[1tiredteacher]

some things never change, just change the name of the current race at the top of the 'hate' list and this is still timely. Thanks for posting.

[thecountofbasie]

@1tiredteacher Unfortunately that's pretty much the point...thanks for the comment

[LvnAction]

The Fugs and Frank Zappa rekindled The Enlightenment which the Military Industrial Complex and the Banking Cartels worked to obfuscate. John Kenneth Galbraithe and George Plimpton rot in hell you destroyers. May Nixon, Kissinger and Macnimara lie with you in perpetual torment for selling out the middle class and the unions to China. When will men and women of principle revolt?

[CrazyBear65]

@LvnAction When all the sleeping ones awaken.

[desirefirst]

@LvnAction sounds like you need to do some serious reading about the history of unions and the deals they struck with the big companies over the years, $60 dollars an hour of wages and benefits for screwing headlights onto Chevys? that's what destroyed the "middle class"

[mickhutchinson]

Brilliant .Always liked this one

[mlohan17]

This goes out to Tuli Kupferberg who died on July 12th.

[shortprsn]

Rip Tuli

[BestTits]

rip rip rip

[selatik1]

What the Fug?

[conqueroo1]

R.I.P. Tuli

[thecountofbasie]

@conqueroo1 didn't know that, or forgot...when did it happen?



[noirdez667]

@thecountofbasie yesterday (the 12th)

[thecountofbasie]

@noirdez667 thanks

[ioriorioriorio]

dISAGREEE COUNTBASIE...... The enemy, (for me) was the "establishment"...cops, phony lib politicains,etc.....there still my adversary, moreso today, since they have captured many hearts and minds with thier "get the terrorists' bullshit.....there the enemy, not the muslims, or iraqis

[thecountofbasie]

@ioriorioriorio never said the enemy wasn't the establishment...part of the point is that there are so many enemies on all sides it's impossible to conquer them all, if even any...and one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...everything is a matter of perception, and if nothing else, I'm glad this post exposes so many of those...thanks for the response

[LoveFactory100]

Fugging good sood song!

[salvatp]

kill for peace is the most eloquent, incisive concept adapted by the U.S. national secururity state ever!

KILL FOR PEACE

right on Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Columbia & everywhere else

[hansjalv]

Scary...

[Hemulen40]

Check out their album ´Golden Filth´ if ye can find it . Classy classic !

[motherbrain86]

listening to the fugs first record is like hte first time i heard freak out, what a timeless mindblow

[Mosux2007]

Simple-minded, superficial, shallow 60's hippie blather. Overly repetitive as well. I'm not impressed.

[huwfylt]

@Mosux2007

you sir, are being pretentious.

[God4Dunoon]

mmmh wanta look at the necessity of documentation... its a bit more inciteful than you give it credit for

[thecountofbasie]

And does anything make it different from the simple-minded, superficial, shallow blather of the administrations it attacks?

[JiffyNo0b]

That's the joke.

[emerpus01]

@Mosux2007 I am 100% certain that nobody gives a shit if you're impressed.

[Mosux2007]

@emerpus01 Obviously you were impressed enough to provide that brilliant insight.

When defeatists, cowards and losers manage to infect a society and worm their way into positions of power and influence, the result is predictable.

[emerpus01]

@Mosux2007 Yeah too bad democracy works that, huh?

[Mosux2007]

@emerpus01 Democracy also enables the patriotic, the brave and the victorious to remove defeatists, cowards and losers from power. Too bad, indeed.

[emerpus01]

@Mosux2007 Yeah, I agree - the defeatist losers were democratically removed from power in November 2008. I assume you're not a Republican because the last Republican president left us without victory in TWO wars and never caught Bin Ladin. I believe the kids today call that an 'epic fail'.

[COGENTCOG]

Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.

George Orwell :)

[PAULLONDEN]

Ok...it's an anachronism,but,yeah

sometimes society has to defend it's

'democracy"; until someone thinks up a better system,they'd better shut their

snouts.

[thecountofbasie]

I don't think it's as much the "system," as it's the frequent misuse of said system...but point made...glad this post keeps the debate stirring...thanks for the response

[PAULLONDEN]

Unlike -roquefort▬ - ☼ •

You're right there, ofcourse.

[roquefort88888]

@PAULLONDEN -

YOu're so right, my friend - The IRaqis had it coming!

My fervent hope is that the fish eaters and dental hygienists are next!

I think you'll agree, they threaten everything we hold dear...

[Buddy212002]

We all better shut up and belive only what you believe or we won't have any "democracy." Brilliant!

[Peskygee1]

abolish democrats and republicans. They both send you to die for corporations. Ron Paul was the only one who wanted to bring all the troops home and legalize pot. Obama won't do either any more than that coke addict Bush. Four more years of high taxes and less freedom.

[LeoGirl8482]

This is revolutionary music! These practices are still happening at this time in our history. It's amazing how we as a society still have a warped view of the world. We're the ones with the problem. ABOLISH REPUBLICANS

[thecountofbasie]

Abolish is maybe a bit too strong...but it's still too damn sad they (not just Republicans, but let's keep it to the narrow-minded and Conservative thinkers...cap S deliberate) never seem to learn from past mistakes...Vietnam started the decline of this country...our missteps in Iraq furthered it tremendously...the patient is still in critical condition, and for once I don't want anyone to pull the plug...

[LeoGirl8482]

I know abolish is strong.. I just wanted to make it sound funny! I think republicans have some great views, of course, I don't always agree, but I agree with you, they never learn from past mistakes. I guess you can say they are shit steppers

[thecountofbasie]

I don't expect anyone to always agree with me...I hope not, frankly...the great thing about a post like this is that it at least draws reactions on both sides...yes, most people will share the view of the song, but at least those that take the time to pay attention are thinking...and that's the important thing...thanks for your comments

[pkappel006]

can you play tendrenss junction by the fugs??????? it came out in =mid 60's

[thecountofbasie]

wish i had it but don't...maybe it's posted elsewhere

[NunzOnDrugs]

It's amazing.. five decades later the politicians are still telling us we have to "kill for peace."

[600katman]

Thanks for posting.The Fugs were a great influence during my youth.The title of the song shows the hypocrisy of our foreign policy.We are waging a so-called "War on Terror". War is terror,whether you drop a bomb from a jet or carry it to a market in a bread basket, innocent people will die.

[thecountofbasie]

well said...thank you

[DarkAlex92x]

the lyrics are so true about the paranoïa of America during the cold war.

And the rythme makes it so joyfull, even so the theme isn't