I'm not sure I like this. Deep half guard is one of my specialties and it takes a lot of effort to sweep a guy, simply hooking his leg with your arm will not make him simply fall to the side for you to grab the knee bar.
like all good techniques i think it is the result of understanding where is best to push for disrupting balance, and utilising all limbs in unison. note how he uses his left leg to push into the armpit of the fellow on top.
again, easier in a tutorial, but still its worth noting that the technique isn't "lift your opponent up with one arm"
@MrJasperwes Yep, many of Sambo leg locking techniques are now being used in BJJ clubs. The only difference is that in Sambo, you're allowed to do leg locks (most of them) at an early age and experience level. You don't have to be a "brown or black belt" to do different types of leg locks... thus Sambo guys tend to be much more fluent in leg locks than any other grappler (Catch Wrestling is pretty close).
Lewimo94, it always makes me laugh when people suggest Karate is a " weak/useless art"? Maybe you should tell that to the current light heavyweight UFC champ, Lyoto Machida, who has a Shotokan Karate background and black belt, trained by his father also a Shotokan blackbelt. Its not about what sport you do, its in the training, train hard in any discipline, and you will reap the benefits. All martial arts have pros and cons.
@pokerking701 u r right...I personally don't think karate is the best fighting style, but it is definately a good base to have...I don't think Machida only know that lol, but his karate is top notch!!! He is very good at keeping the fights in an area where he can use his karate...but at the same time, I don't think some styles work too well for organized fighting...I don't think wing chun would do too good in the ufc...
@leopurpleman Uh, you have seen judo before, right? And sambo? They box too. Oh yeah, MMA as well. And that's not even counting the former soviet states. Yeah, they've been at the top of pretty much all of it on and off through the years. Wrestling too. Aleksander Karelin, Fedor Emelianenko, Igor Kurinnoy... There are quite a few russians at the top of the fighting game through recent history.
Sherdog shows which technique is more effective generally and overal....in my opinion in the street both techniques have their sport and realistic side..and both martial arts,sambo and bjj have to show us many many things...that's the point..we learn new things day to day...
MMA stats? What am I looking for? I don't think I've made a claim putting down bjj or sombo. Been training Sambo from about 1990. Bjj from 97 and wrestling from 73. Not into dick measuring. But new info is always good.
well said. when talking about modern grappling arts such as sambo, judo, bjj...they all have a common heritage so alot of it is the same thing. sambo is how they do it in russia, judo is how they do it in japan..etc
@kempobrad well they have same heritage, but they are very very different. Judo technique do not need as much strength and effort but you need higher endurance for matt work and higher speed for stand up. Sambo style that do not have any Aikido in them uses more strength and speed. I think the cool advantage to Sambo compared to Judo are the leg locks. these leg locks will tear a lot of judo students up who dont know they are fighting a Sambo student. just look at that leg lock from halfguard
Just to clarify, Jujitsu is throws, chokes, pressure points, breaks, locks and dislocations, with a few strikes thrown in for good measure. It was once the secondary fighting system used by the Samurai. Also known as the gentle art, it uses the principle of balance, counter balance, re directing an attackers momentum. However, there is nothing gentle about this art, it is a lethat fighting art, particularly when mixed with a striking art such as Karate.
@pokerking701 great comment apart from the karate bit , karate is a weak sport which gives people a false sense of security it is useless , andy hug fair enough was a great karate practishioner and an awesome fighter but in 99% of cases karate is feeble compared to other fighting arts
@philic212 jujutsu is combination of grappling and striking. Karate was born from old samurai jujutsu ryu schools, which in turn got some of their technique from Indian and Chinese monks (hundreds of years ago). Judo was born from Jujutsu's ryu schools and BJJ is a sub-style of Judo. If you want to learn Judo & Karate, simply learn Japanese Jujutsu but do not state that BJJ is submissions when Judo and JJJ are the founders of all submissions we use today.
@crazyfuckerguy 30%-40% of Judo fights (as stated by IJF) end on the ground (win via submission or pin), which is not bad and eliminates the entire notion that Judo is mainly throws. It's hard to get an ippon in Judo, so 75% of the time you throw but you must follow up with a choke, arm lock or pin.
@pcjudosambo wrong...its the judo practitioners that practice the jujitsu style....judo hardly teaches any submissions if so its rare and not complete.
bjj is a mat art. sambo as what most see of it is a geared down verion of its self made safe for sake of training.Sambo covers alot of ground bjj does not, ie;weapons defense and use,street defense and group attacks.I find bjj will likely take the mat, sambo will likely take reality and training both is smart.
Top also must be clairified. Top of what? Military use?Sport use?Playing games or fighting for ur life? MMA?MMA in the US or in the rest of the world? None of these answers will be the same.
That's the thing about styles. They tend to separate a lot of things which are in fact similar or exactly the same as in other styles. That's why I don't say I am a Wing Chun guy or Jujitsu guy. I'm just a martial artist and a fighter. What I seek are not techniques, but movements. Like in China before western impact, even if one learned a whole bunch of styles, they just sum it up with two words, "Kung Fu".
What a sneaky fucker! I wish I knew these when my older cousin wrestled me when I was a kid. The only move we knew was headlocks. My fav submission guys are Frank Mir and Ken Shamrock, though. They can execute the arm and leglocks well.
Sambo and BJJ do work very well together for grappling, although they might synthesize better with no-gi as opposed to with the gi. Most gi-based tournaments prohibit heel hooks and other leg locks, even at the black belt level because of the extra friction created with the gi and the propensity for knee blowouts. Although lower level no-gi might disallow some leg locks, they are great to know for mma and higher levels and you can catch straight BJJ guys who might not be as familiar with them
Started practicing BJJ and I really enjoy it. However, I have to say that I'm really impressed with Sambo. I guess these techniques could be incorporated into BJJ...Yes? Maybe? No? Also, any recommended reading?
without the rules they do. FusBoxe MMA is a mix of Sambo and Bjj. reason-bjj is tighter, good for mat use-bad for getting jumped in street fight.Sambo is looser-good for street fight bad when facing a tight grappler.besides,they already are a mix of one another.
true...but the true difference is that sambo focuses on more throws,takedowns and leglocks.....there are different kinds of sambo like military sambo ....
Just to name one, BJJ puts emphasis on obtaining a solid position before attempting a submission, while sambo rules favor integrating the submission into the throw, or at the very least, make the practitioner less concerned about positional dominance.
Sambo has a more judo feel with extensive work on mostly lower body attacks. (IE. Knee bars, achilles lock, calf crusher) BJJ is more well rounded in submissions but alot less in takedowns.
its basicly judo but with some changes in uniform and alows leg lock instead of chock holds. i think they did this becuse they dident want it tobe like judo. but there many types of sambo.
Sambo is always evolving. they do have chokes, but in sport Sambo you can win by controlling your opponent via a pin therefore they are not done in Sambo competitions since almost all chokes are done for top or guard position. In the few "non-dominant position" chokes that could be performed there are usually equally effective arm or leg locks that could be used. While I practice BJJ, I have the utmost respect for Sambo and would crosstrain at a Sambo school if there were a good on in my area.
There's more to sambo than leg locks. It's a system that has the same emphasis as BJJ and judo. A self defense, a sport, and combat are all part of sambo.
they both have roots in japan. the main difference i think, is that sambo also incorporates alot of wrestling from throughout russia (folk wrestling) on top of the judo. and the approach.
I was once told that the genius of BJJ isn't the NUMBER of locks and holds you know but the small set-ups to get there. He said that BJJ is basically Armbar, choke, and knee bar and their variations. You can know a millions locks and not know how to get to the position to use it. I think that's why BJJ has a heads up on Sambo. Justin Garcia has the world Sambo belt got it as a purple in BJJ. Plus knowing too many locks can do more harm than good. Sambo has too many different locks i think.
Bjj teaches position before submission for a very simple reason....they don't have the knowledge that catch wrestlers, kosen judoka, sambo practitioners and even freestyle wrestlers have. Everyone else teachers submission over position due to their vast knowledge of wrestling. Bjj = fake claims 99% of the time.
Fine you can try to choke me while you're mounted, or kim me from the bottom of side control, but 9 times out of ten you're goi be shiot out of luck. BJJ has sh it's superiority to Sambo countless times.
yeah but one thing is for sure. if someone wants knock you out with knees elbows and head butts and punches its definatly easire from superoir position! when you add that to the game submissions become alot easier for the guy with superoir positions.
I agree and disagree with 'ohforphugsake'. Ive been teaching myself submission wrestling. A lot came from Catch and Sombo, and some from BJJ (the quick, effective triangle chokes from guard, position, etc). I do mostly consider my knowledge from Catch, but you diss BJJ to much. I have learned a lot from sparring and practicing with BJJ people, and alot is due to positioning learning. Everything is pretty mixed now anyway. a bjj school will have mixed techniques. Catch will. Sombo will, etc.
Besides, in one part of this vid (1m 12sec) he performs a step over toe hold which in reality is rather difficult to do especially when pinning is not involved. Again, BJJ guys are great using the guard. Although I have great defense on top, the Step over method is nice to get out of the guard, but to actually turn them over and to a submission is unlikely. It is more likely to end in a different position. It can be done, as I did once to a good grappler, but not high percentage.
Its dependant on school too. u can only be as good as the people who teach you. If BJJ is so flawed why is it used by all the special forces around the world over sombo? and sombo has been around for alot longer then BJJ too. My academy teaches both sombo and BJJ. And teaching 'position over submission' due to experience? how can u get this experience without learning the positions? if u have no position you have no advantage.
Dude you are an absolute idiot. They teach submission over position because of the combat scenarios they were bred from. Judo and similar styles (that includes Sambo) follow a philosophy of quickly dispatching an enemy as opposed to throughly dispatching one (BJJ/Japanese Jujutsu).
Sambo in particular was created to be quickly taught to a maxiumum number of relatively untrained soldiers. Each style has it's advanatages.
BJJ and Sambo are for the most part derived from Judo.
I would think that most grappling styles teach how to gain position before submission simply because you have to be at the right position to achieve the intended lock. You can't rear naked choke someone from the front o_O
Anyways, there is no "superior" or "better" grappling style. There are only good practitioners and bad practitioners. That determines who will win 99.7% of the time.
good point, actually there is sort of a rear naked choke from the front called the armless d'arce choke (kind of like an over-committed guillotine choke)
your english is pretty good, what country do you live in?
RussNinjaassassin 5 months ago
man he wouldnt let go at 1:20 lol brutal teacher man
yongpack0 10 months ago
I'm not sure I like this. Deep half guard is one of my specialties and it takes a lot of effort to sweep a guy, simply hooking his leg with your arm will not make him simply fall to the side for you to grab the knee bar.
RightWingCon81 10 months ago 2
@RightWingCon81 - awesome name :)
like all good techniques i think it is the result of understanding where is best to push for disrupting balance, and utilising all limbs in unison. note how he uses his left leg to push into the armpit of the fellow on top.
again, easier in a tutorial, but still its worth noting that the technique isn't "lift your opponent up with one arm"
huntergatherers 3 months ago
why is it that when i hear of russian sambo i picture cold blooded russian officers training in the russian winter ready to break people's legs??
kenseisato1989 11 months ago
@kenseisato1989 because that's how the real Russian SF officers train like :-)
pcjudosambo 11 months ago
@pcjudosambo
lol
kenseisato1989 11 months ago
@kenseisato1989 thats their regular training
yongpack0 10 months ago
@yongpack0
damm thats some kick ass training
kenseisato1989 10 months ago
i do this in Bjj,,,,
MrJasperwes 1 year ago
@MrJasperwes Yep, many of Sambo leg locking techniques are now being used in BJJ clubs. The only difference is that in Sambo, you're allowed to do leg locks (most of them) at an early age and experience level. You don't have to be a "brown or black belt" to do different types of leg locks... thus Sambo guys tend to be much more fluent in leg locks than any other grappler (Catch Wrestling is pretty close).
pcjudosambo 11 months ago
well done
emaun423 1 year ago
nice , i m not sure to find that in BJJ
MrEgregore1863 1 year ago
Sambo´s got some wicked leg locks man. Wish i could get my hands on a sambo instructor over here in Ecuador (South America).
Aullido13 1 year ago
this is a great video.
zaxtunes 1 year ago
oh Ok.... BJJ is too much better than sambo
rsalvadori 1 year ago
@rsalvadori naaa just different varations all abut personal skill......ive had 4 years of sambo training
matmasters3 1 year ago
@rsalvadori like you've got any idea...
laokon 1 year ago
Lewimo94, it always makes me laugh when people suggest Karate is a " weak/useless art"? Maybe you should tell that to the current light heavyweight UFC champ, Lyoto Machida, who has a Shotokan Karate background and black belt, trained by his father also a Shotokan blackbelt. Its not about what sport you do, its in the training, train hard in any discipline, and you will reap the benefits. All martial arts have pros and cons.
pokerking701 1 year ago
@pokerking701 u r right...I personally don't think karate is the best fighting style, but it is definately a good base to have...I don't think Machida only know that lol, but his karate is top notch!!! He is very good at keeping the fights in an area where he can use his karate...but at the same time, I don't think some styles work too well for organized fighting...I don't think wing chun would do too good in the ufc...
mizzike16 1 year ago
I like that move! I always like to improve my half guard game.
hexkwondo 1 year ago
love it
RabidxPanda 1 year ago
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leopurpleman 1 year ago
@leopurpleman Never heard of Fedor Emelianenko and the Red Devil, have you, Mr. Ignoramus?
Agtren 1 year ago
@leopurpleman Uh, you have seen judo before, right? And sambo? They box too. Oh yeah, MMA as well. And that's not even counting the former soviet states. Yeah, they've been at the top of pretty much all of it on and off through the years. Wrestling too. Aleksander Karelin, Fedor Emelianenko, Igor Kurinnoy... There are quite a few russians at the top of the fighting game through recent history.
JinsukeHP 1 year ago
Sherdog shows which technique is more effective generally and overal....in my opinion in the street both techniques have their sport and realistic side..and both martial arts,sambo and bjj have to show us many many things...that's the point..we learn new things day to day...
MrEsperado 2 years ago
MMA stats? What am I looking for? I don't think I've made a claim putting down bjj or sombo. Been training Sambo from about 1990. Bjj from 97 and wrestling from 73. Not into dick measuring. But new info is always good.
FusBoxe 2 years ago
it's not the style but the practioner that makes it work
mywingchunsucks 2 years ago 3
well said. when talking about modern grappling arts such as sambo, judo, bjj...they all have a common heritage so alot of it is the same thing. sambo is how they do it in russia, judo is how they do it in japan..etc
kempobrad 2 years ago 10
@kempobrad well they have same heritage, but they are very very different. Judo technique do not need as much strength and effort but you need higher endurance for matt work and higher speed for stand up. Sambo style that do not have any Aikido in them uses more strength and speed. I think the cool advantage to Sambo compared to Judo are the leg locks. these leg locks will tear a lot of judo students up who dont know they are fighting a Sambo student. just look at that leg lock from halfguard
nasurdan 2 years ago
@kempobrad judo is mainly throws, if you want submissions it would be jujitsu.
crazyfuckerguy 1 year ago
@crazyfuckerguy BJJ is submissions jujitsu is like counter punchs, throws ect and shit BJJ is much more enjoyable
philic212 1 year ago
@philic212
Just to clarify, Jujitsu is throws, chokes, pressure points, breaks, locks and dislocations, with a few strikes thrown in for good measure. It was once the secondary fighting system used by the Samurai. Also known as the gentle art, it uses the principle of balance, counter balance, re directing an attackers momentum. However, there is nothing gentle about this art, it is a lethat fighting art, particularly when mixed with a striking art such as Karate.
pokerking701 1 year ago
@pokerking701 yeah what he said. :(
philic212 1 year ago
@pokerking701 great comment apart from the karate bit , karate is a weak sport which gives people a false sense of security it is useless , andy hug fair enough was a great karate practishioner and an awesome fighter but in 99% of cases karate is feeble compared to other fighting arts
lewimo94 1 year ago
@philic212 jujutsu is combination of grappling and striking. Karate was born from old samurai jujutsu ryu schools, which in turn got some of their technique from Indian and Chinese monks (hundreds of years ago). Judo was born from Jujutsu's ryu schools and BJJ is a sub-style of Judo. If you want to learn Judo & Karate, simply learn Japanese Jujutsu but do not state that BJJ is submissions when Judo and JJJ are the founders of all submissions we use today.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@crazyfuckerguy 30%-40% of Judo fights (as stated by IJF) end on the ground (win via submission or pin), which is not bad and eliminates the entire notion that Judo is mainly throws. It's hard to get an ippon in Judo, so 75% of the time you throw but you must follow up with a choke, arm lock or pin.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo wrong...its the judo practitioners that practice the jujitsu style....judo hardly teaches any submissions if so its rare and not complete.
crazyfuckerguy 7 months ago
@crazyfuckerguy go to IJF and see for yourself.
pcjudosambo 7 months ago
so damn right
twyztted 2 years ago
That's not entirely true. There are high percentage and low percentage techniques. It helps to know the difference.
PandawdyBob 2 years ago 2
i love bjj. but im starting to like sambo too cuz all the moves and take downs are like flying or rolling cool stuff.
SilvestreAKAChester 2 years ago 3
bjj is top..sambo is also good.
MrEsperado 2 years ago
bjj is a mat art. sambo as what most see of it is a geared down verion of its self made safe for sake of training.Sambo covers alot of ground bjj does not, ie;weapons defense and use,street defense and group attacks.I find bjj will likely take the mat, sambo will likely take reality and training both is smart.
FusBoxe 2 years ago
@FusBoxe look at mma stats on which technique is more effective...simple..
MrEsperado 2 years ago
Top also must be clairified. Top of what? Military use?Sport use?Playing games or fighting for ur life? MMA?MMA in the US or in the rest of the world? None of these answers will be the same.
FusBoxe 2 years ago
That's the thing about styles. They tend to separate a lot of things which are in fact similar or exactly the same as in other styles. That's why I don't say I am a Wing Chun guy or Jujitsu guy. I'm just a martial artist and a fighter. What I seek are not techniques, but movements. Like in China before western impact, even if one learned a whole bunch of styles, they just sum it up with two words, "Kung Fu".
TheSenseofTouch 2 years ago
whoever neg repped this guy is a retard.
vanity81 2 years ago 3
SAMBO !!!
jkullander 2 years ago 3
What a sneaky fucker! I wish I knew these when my older cousin wrestled me when I was a kid. The only move we knew was headlocks. My fav submission guys are Frank Mir and Ken Shamrock, though. They can execute the arm and leglocks well.
JoeyFudd 2 years ago
a wealth of knowledge in such a short post... (even if i didn't catch every thing he was saying)
gotta work some of this stuff in da next time i roll
sbmfighter 2 years ago
fedorrrr emelianekooo FTW.
lamtartarus 2 years ago 3
Awesome stuff. Definitely going to work this in.
CRDFightClub 3 years ago
i luv sambo
rage1mma 3 years ago 2
Sambo and BJJ do work very well together for grappling, although they might synthesize better with no-gi as opposed to with the gi. Most gi-based tournaments prohibit heel hooks and other leg locks, even at the black belt level because of the extra friction created with the gi and the propensity for knee blowouts. Although lower level no-gi might disallow some leg locks, they are great to know for mma and higher levels and you can catch straight BJJ guys who might not be as familiar with them
getthetapjj 3 years ago 2
I have been practicing AJJ and many Sambo moves have been incorporated into it.
blacktasticactor 3 years ago
Started practicing BJJ and I really enjoy it. However, I have to say that I'm really impressed with Sambo. I guess these techniques could be incorporated into BJJ...Yes? Maybe? No? Also, any recommended reading?
MrBubbles70 3 years ago 3
outside of rules, why wouldn't sambo and BJJ work well together?
monji112000 3 years ago
without the rules they do. FusBoxe MMA is a mix of Sambo and Bjj. reason-bjj is tighter, good for mat use-bad for getting jumped in street fight.Sambo is looser-good for street fight bad when facing a tight grappler.besides,they already are a mix of one another.
FusBoxe 2 years ago
if you wanna learn to fight...better ask a russian!!! LOL
ceroeck 3 years ago 21
I love how you demonstrated how simple and important that lean is and pressure from the hip.
lallope 3 years ago 2
bjj is all submissions sambo is submissions and strikes.
WipeYourPussy 3 years ago
true...but the true difference is that sambo focuses on more throws,takedowns and leglocks.....there are different kinds of sambo like military sambo ....
omar2000089 3 years ago
There's a few more differences...
Just to name one, BJJ puts emphasis on obtaining a solid position before attempting a submission, while sambo rules favor integrating the submission into the throw, or at the very least, make the practitioner less concerned about positional dominance.
stayhidden 3 years ago
There's a chance of getting mounted but I still think it's a good move.
hannibalslaughter 3 years ago
When one goes for a mount there is a split second in wich he is exposed. That's when I usualy explode and go for a leglock. (I do BJJ + SAMBO)
JustaEropeanGuy 2 years ago
i take jiu jitsu and this stuff is preety much the same... anyone know what the difference is in sambo and jiu jitsu? (bjj by the way)
nubemuffin 3 years ago
Look up Fedor vs Nogueira I to see the difference. (Sambo vs. BJJ)
Darksmile1234 3 years ago 3
lol so funny and true.
angrychickin 3 years ago
Sambo has a more judo feel with extensive work on mostly lower body attacks. (IE. Knee bars, achilles lock, calf crusher) BJJ is more well rounded in submissions but alot less in takedowns.
Boltz87 3 years ago
yea russian reversed engiernired sport sambo
its basicly judo but with some changes in uniform and alows leg lock instead of chock holds. i think they did this becuse they dident want it tobe like judo. but there many types of sambo.
hinnant850 3 years ago
Sambo is always evolving. they do have chokes, but in sport Sambo you can win by controlling your opponent via a pin therefore they are not done in Sambo competitions since almost all chokes are done for top or guard position. In the few "non-dominant position" chokes that could be performed there are usually equally effective arm or leg locks that could be used. While I practice BJJ, I have the utmost respect for Sambo and would crosstrain at a Sambo school if there were a good on in my area.
jitzfitz 3 years ago 2
has sambo chokes? if it's not...
military fight should have chokes...
milano1919 3 years ago
it has chokes
building7911 3 years ago
The sport dont allow chokes but the system has chokes just like Judo has leglocks but the sport dont allow them used.
georgeee1 3 years ago
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Sombo is bassically BJJ with no chokes... but i like chokes too so i go with BJJ for my training
Brazilianjj 3 years ago
sambo has chokes...
building7911 3 years ago
sambo has chokes...
building7911 3 years ago
Sport Sambo allows all types of leg locks, while not allowing chokeholds.
Brazilianjj 3 years ago
i was thinking of combat sambo, i forgot sport doesnt allow chokes
building7911 3 years ago
Oh, yeah sport is no chokes
Brazilianjj 3 years ago
tell me how to domnload this clip
24108812 4 years ago
No matter how you cut it, this guy has some bad ass wrestling shoes on! Hell yeah! I dig 'em.
ohforphuqsake 4 years ago
There's more to sambo than leg locks. It's a system that has the same emphasis as BJJ and judo. A self defense, a sport, and combat are all part of sambo.
jds986 4 years ago 2
i greatly enjoy sambo because of its emphasis on leg locks. plus they have badass uniforms...
Panzerfaust26 4 years ago
sambo the best martial art ever
rhkick23 4 years ago
tthere are variations like grappling or jujitsu
kingpolos 4 years ago 2
i prefer sambo..sambo muay thai and catch wrestling
rhkick23 4 years ago
to everyone that doubt sambo i present you Fedor Emelianenko
boeyaka 4 years ago 4
Nice one.
Raging5 4 years ago
I really respect sambo
philcovaletudo 4 years ago
ok...so what EXACTLY "belongs" on youtube?...jackass
AustonT 4 years ago
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Yeah, but bullshit like that doesn't belong here.
Capoeirista81 4 years ago
I've been taking BJJ for about a year now, and as much as I love it, I wish we learned more leg locks. I might have to take a few months of Sambo ...
It's cool how similar the sports are in a lot of ways. It's almost just a matter of what is emphasized.
stayhidden 4 years ago 2
they both have roots in japan. the main difference i think, is that sambo also incorporates alot of wrestling from throughout russia (folk wrestling) on top of the judo. and the approach.
kempobrad 4 years ago
You're absolutely right. Sambo puts emphasis on quickly ending a fight by favoring the integration of the submission with the takedown.
Sambo is about speed, BJJ is about pacing and avoiding a bad situation by rushing into a submission.
I say it's good to learn both.
stayhidden 4 years ago
I was once told that the genius of BJJ isn't the NUMBER of locks and holds you know but the small set-ups to get there. He said that BJJ is basically Armbar, choke, and knee bar and their variations. You can know a millions locks and not know how to get to the position to use it. I think that's why BJJ has a heads up on Sambo. Justin Garcia has the world Sambo belt got it as a purple in BJJ. Plus knowing too many locks can do more harm than good. Sambo has too many different locks i think.
RightWingCon81 4 years ago
can't forget the key locks :p
kmogusar 4 years ago
Bjj teaches position before submission for a very simple reason....they don't have the knowledge that catch wrestlers, kosen judoka, sambo practitioners and even freestyle wrestlers have. Everyone else teachers submission over position due to their vast knowledge of wrestling. Bjj = fake claims 99% of the time.
ohforphuqsake 4 years ago
Fine you can try to choke me while you're mounted, or kim me from the bottom of side control, but 9 times out of ten you're goi be shiot out of luck. BJJ has sh it's superiority to Sambo countless times.
RightWingCon81 4 years ago
yeah but one thing is for sure. if someone wants knock you out with knees elbows and head butts and punches its definatly easire from superoir position! when you add that to the game submissions become alot easier for the guy with superoir positions.
chodykumbra 4 years ago
I agree and disagree with 'ohforphugsake'. Ive been teaching myself submission wrestling. A lot came from Catch and Sombo, and some from BJJ (the quick, effective triangle chokes from guard, position, etc). I do mostly consider my knowledge from Catch, but you diss BJJ to much. I have learned a lot from sparring and practicing with BJJ people, and alot is due to positioning learning. Everything is pretty mixed now anyway. a bjj school will have mixed techniques. Catch will. Sombo will, etc.
wrestler50000 4 years ago
Besides, in one part of this vid (1m 12sec) he performs a step over toe hold which in reality is rather difficult to do especially when pinning is not involved. Again, BJJ guys are great using the guard. Although I have great defense on top, the Step over method is nice to get out of the guard, but to actually turn them over and to a submission is unlikely. It is more likely to end in a different position. It can be done, as I did once to a good grappler, but not high percentage.
wrestler50000 4 years ago
Its dependant on school too. u can only be as good as the people who teach you. If BJJ is so flawed why is it used by all the special forces around the world over sombo? and sombo has been around for alot longer then BJJ too. My academy teaches both sombo and BJJ. And teaching 'position over submission' due to experience? how can u get this experience without learning the positions? if u have no position you have no advantage.
jarrad888 3 years ago
Dude you are an absolute idiot. They teach submission over position because of the combat scenarios they were bred from. Judo and similar styles (that includes Sambo) follow a philosophy of quickly dispatching an enemy as opposed to throughly dispatching one (BJJ/Japanese Jujutsu).
Sambo in particular was created to be quickly taught to a maxiumum number of relatively untrained soldiers. Each style has it's advanatages.
stayhidden 4 years ago
BJJ and Sambo are for the most part derived from Judo.
I would think that most grappling styles teach how to gain position before submission simply because you have to be at the right position to achieve the intended lock. You can't rear naked choke someone from the front o_O
Anyways, there is no "superior" or "better" grappling style. There are only good practitioners and bad practitioners. That determines who will win 99.7% of the time.
ni7enichi 3 years ago 2
good point, actually there is sort of a rear naked choke from the front called the armless d'arce choke (kind of like an over-committed guillotine choke)
handsomegorilla 3 years ago
or u could do an ezekial choke
building7911 3 years ago
sambo rules
49cnt 4 years ago
Great vids
macksnack 4 years ago
Reminds me a lot of Ken "The Clinic" Kim.
mccarric 4 years ago
cool sht
kaligator619er 4 years ago
Vadim is best SAMBO coach in UK!
armasuk 4 years ago