Old Heian Shodan shotokan karate kata jka

[brinnonvallere]

just train man

[nayungxiao]

oh and dont forget + dodge also.

[nayungxiao]

i was used chodan oi tsuki during free sparring and its work. for me what ever the skill/ attack and defends style will be useless without high speed, power and accurate + trick.

[frankshtein]

What's the difference between this one and the current one ? because we're doing it the same way in the dojo.

[emulare11]

What year was this performed?

[becs5120]

Awesome to watch.........Just a shame they didn't have a clue what it meant.

Or........they decided not to teach it.....

Now there is a question...........

[jiggahippo]

i wonder if this guy is still alive? lol

[16karateka]

Good one!

[kaylasquaresoft]

lol i love watching these old vids of kata, they are so dodgy tho

[katashotokan]

O karateca, que executa esse Heian Shodan , chama-se Ken Nakaya e infelizmente teve seu pescoco quebrado, em confronto com Enoeda . foi um acidente.

Ele se mantem numa cadeira de rodas, tetraplegico.....

Oss!

[stardingo747]

0:26

his rear foot is angled too much at a 45 degree.

aren't the feet supposed to form a "right angle" if you "draw lines" "connecting" them?

sorry; I looked at that damned text for so many hours, I tend to spot all kinds of technical errors I am hardly qualified to point out.

Normally I keep quiet, I swear!

[Bassai]

In forward stance (zenkutsu dachi) your rear foot is supposed to be 45 degrees. which book are you reading? The back foot in back stance (kokutsu dachi) should be perpendicular (90 degrees) in relation to your front foot. His final shuto-uke's are done at an angle, so you can't really tell if his rear foot is perpendicular, but i think it is.

[IEKUKATAKA]

@Bassai Is that right? Would you please explain how a martial art used to defend life can be so petty regarding angles? Is the form of the dachi dictated by geometry? Does that mean if I am attacked by a mugger and knock him out it does not count because my rear foot was at the wrong angle? Would it not be more useful if a particular stance were viewed as a special crouch for a special purpose, and as such, it's particular shape would be dictated by it's use? Isn't karate naturally used?

[Bassai]

@IEKUKATAKA Oh no, the back foot angle has nothing to do with practical self-defense. It's just some aesthetic / symmetric bull crap Funakoshi invented when he taught kata and basics to his students. Its the same bull crap I had to re-learn when I switched to Matsubayashi Shorin-Ryu, an Okinawan style I wanted to study as part of my personal Karate-research.  Example, I had to make sure my back foot was at a 45 degree angle when in an awkward cat stance, in the opening moves for Pinan Shodan.

[Bassai]

@IEKUKATAKA Same bull crap when I had to learn to land in ashiko dachi, with my feet at 45 degree angles, in Pinan Godan, while performing empi uchi. Silly me, I was so used to landing in Kiba Dachi, after throwing a a mikazuki geri from my training in the Shotokanized version, Heian Godan. My teacher, Sensei Crevani, a direct student of both Soke's Shoshin and Takayoshi Nagamine, kept correcting me over and over again on these bull crap mistakes.

[Bassai]

@IEKUKATAKA I also thought that defending yourself against a Shotokan favored oi-tsuki, the worst form of attack ever, was simply a waste of time. I, mean who the hell throws an oi-tsuki in the street? But then, I discovered that Okinawan Karate employs the same retarded defenses against the same useless attack as well...

[Bassai]

@IEKUKATAKA You can find a Matsubayashi Shorin-Ryu version of defense against oi-tsuki on You Tube by simply search / typing "Matsubayashi Karate (Kumite)". You can also find Morio Higaonna, world-renowned master of Okinawan Goju-Ryu, defending himself against oi-tsuki, plus some other useless attacks by typing "Seiyunchin bunkais" I mean, any imaginative child growing up in a rough neighborhood could come up with 1000 or more defenses against oi-tsuki without even hearing about Karate.

[Bassai]

@IEKUKATAKA And what is up with that SANCHIN-DACHI?? I learned the Goju version of Sanchin from my Japanese co-worker a few years back. I can't even imagine using any of those techniques against a guy like Kimbo Slice, coming to plow straight into me with a football tackle... My instinct for that would have to be a Shotokanized sidestep, similar to what Lyoto Machida uses in the UFC.... At that same moment I'd cry out FUCK ALL THAT KARATE FOOT ANGLE BULLSHIT, I GOTTA MOVE OUT OF THE WAY"!!!

[Bassai]

@IEKUKATAKA So this leads to the question, why bother with foot angle bullshit in Shotokan, Shorin-Ryu, Goju-Ryu, etc... Because that's how its dictated as the "correct" way by each school's basic / kihon curriculum, whether for aesthetic purposes or assumed "practical" purposes (better spring, easier to sidestep, more power to counter, etc, blablabla). Does it matter? Depends which rules mean more to you: the school's or your own opinion. No one in the street really cares what you prefer.

[chudanjufood]

Hey man, if you've got a point, you've got a point. Definitely don't feel bad for noticing technical flaws, because if you know enough to notice them, then one could easily make the argument that you are qualified to point them out. As for what is the best way to angle the rear foot; well... depends on who you train with. I know the JKA and SKA both teach the 45 degree, and some others teach that it should be 90. And still some others say that both the feet should be pointing the same way.

[stardingo747]

I practice kata self-taught from the kata text "25 Shotokan Kata."

thanks for posting.

now I know for sure I'm doing it right!

been practicing this thing for a full 2.5 years now (too far away from a school), and I wasn't even sure I was doing it correctly.

thanks!

[hYdratatiOn]

Wow! That's commitment. But you should really get a sensei. There are just too many things you won't find in any, even excellent, text. If you want to be a real karateka, not just to look like one.

Osu

[stardingo747]

Oh I know that; Karate in fact has an extensive grappling arsenal, and grappling is not something easily learned on your own. I'm sure you can get "creative" with a few training dummies, and throwing weights around but its still not the same as human weight distribution. Not to mention active resistance.

[pat13wx]

What an excellent demonstration of this kata.

Thanks for putting it up.

[yuritogoth]

Amazing... Thank you for sharing !

[2074692]

never saw sucha lovely smile, you think ike the devil with a serpent's vile; got to ask about your representacion.

[fandesteve]

viva jka! vive la jka!

[felitina1]

gut

[askwara]

Looks like Yoshitaka Funakoshi, but Im not 100% sure..

[Hotora86]

Heian Shodan oldschool! ^^

[charger089]

Do you know who's this sensei?