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  • @ArginGerigorian

    Where can I get the full message please?

  • It's sad to see so many ignorant people speaking terribly about the God of scripture.Will they be surprised when they hear"I never knew you?"

  • MacArthur "twists the scriptures" to follow the pathetic Heresy of Augustine/Clavin. Rom.8:29, that MacArthur quotes, does not say we are "predestined to Salvation", it says that we (the ones who by "Faith" ACCEPT) through our "free will"(whosoever WILL") the mesage of the Gospel, we are (after accepting such message) "predestined to be conformed to the Image of christ". Christ is "the Chosen", "the Elect",( Isa 43:10, 42:1) and when we "accept" Him, we beome "in Christ", and thus partake...

  • ...of being "chosen"in Him, and "elect" in Him. MacArthurs theology is falsehood and confusion. I am missionary, and I do not think MacArthur is even saved. I do not think he has experienced being "born Again" to a new hope and life in Christ. All he demonstrates is intellectual ability, but No spiritual life, hence his "twisted Calvinist" theology, which is nothing other than damnable heresy. I pray that He migh come to repentance, and faith in th living God and his Son Jesus.

  • @sorens70601 Only those chosen for eternal life will believe.

  • @CBALLEN ...No, you have got it backwards. Only those of the "whosoever believe", will become "in Christ", and therefore become "chosen" and "Elect" in Him.

    Reformed theology is Masonic Satanic deception and absolute Heresy !!!!!!!

    I am a missionary, and can disprove this Satanic falsehood, that claims to be of God!!!!

  • @sorens70601 Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they were very glad and thanked the Lord for his message; and all who were chosen for eternal life became believers.

    I'm gonna believe God's word over yours,no offense.

  • @CBALLEN ...You are not in any way showing "belief" in Gods word, by "twisting the truth". What you, (and MacArthur) demonstrate, is that you' all do not know Greek, and are "dabbling about" in things you have No knowledge of !!! The 'koine' Greek text,(T.R.) reads as follows, (translated word for word) Verse 48.) ..."Hearing this yet the Nations rejoiced and esteemized,(glorified) the Word of the Master,(Lord) and they believe as many as having-been-set into life". The correct English ...

  • ...rendition of this verse would be;..."As many as Believed.. were 'ordained', (not predestined) unto eternal life". The bilbical fact remains that "Faith" must precede our being "ordained unto salvation", as many scritpures uphold this fact !!! Furhtermore, it is clear from verses 46-47, that the "unbelieving Jews" did so by choice of their own will, and Not by a "predestined" choice of God's intending their destruction, as many passages of scripture prove that God does not want any to perish.

  • @sorens7 It appears that your man made traditions over ride God's truth in your world,what a shame, but I also know you can't believe the truth unless God grants it to you.Just remember no one has the ability to believe in Jesus unless God draws one to Him and then ,and only then ,will that one believe.

  • @CBALLEN ...You are the one who follows "man-made' traditions, and live in the spiritual "LaLa land" of Calvinist error !! You are the one who "overides" God's Truth, as you twist the scriptures to say something else than what they say. I have given you plain explanation of the passages you provided, yet you refuse to believe the Truth. The "Shame" is on you !! To say "No one has the ability to believe", is a falsehood, as "every person is given a measure of faith". (just as every person...

  • ...is given intellect, or eyes , or a mouth, etc.) Yes, God draws "all men", (not just a few, as Calvinism erroneously claims) as Jesus said in Jn.12:32, "If I be lifted up, I will draw 'ALL MEN' unto me". This one scripture by itself condemns Calvinism as Un-biblical Fraud, and exposes it as Satanic doctrine !! Without FAITH, it is impossible to please God. Your erroneous concept that "faith" is somehow "imputed" at the time you you hear the gospel, is an anomaly. The very fact that Christ...

  • ...in Mt.11:20 "upbraided"( chastised) the cities in which his mighty works were done, because they "did Not repent", proves that they "chose" (by act of self will) Not to believe,(yet were capable of believing) Also in Acts. 7:51, we read; " ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and in ears, ye do Always RESIST the Holy Ghost, as your fathers did, so do Ye". Again positively denouncing the Satanic Calvinist LIE, that Grace is "irresistable". All of which denounces the falsehood presented...

  • ...by Calvinism as Un-Biblical TRASH !!! As to your second comment beginning with Mt.13:11, firstly, it is clear you are reading out of a fraudulent modern Bible,(and not the KJV) secondly, it is clear you know Nothing about the biblical doctrine of salvation !!

    Next, to tell me, (a missionary/Bible prophecy teacher, in ministry since 1963, and speaking more than 10 different languages) that you think "some study would be in order for me", is laughable, and only highlights your own ignorance

  • @sorens70601 So you've been teaching error since 1963 ? I can believe it.I dare say that it was man who taught you the Bible and not the Holy Spirit.It sounds like you just hate Calvinism,(the proper understanding of God's word or Christianity ,if you will) and God has a reason for blinding your eyes,I don't know what it is but He has done it.

  • @CBALLEN ...Your arrogance outweighs your common sense!! Yes,God Draws all men unto Him, but the "drawing of men" does not equate salvation,as men are Not "predestined" as Calvinism falsely asserts. It is God's plan that was predestined, and Christ that was the "chosen" and the "elect". And No, I have not been teaching "error" since 1963,(as I do Not teach the Satanic/masonic doctrines Men, i.e.Augustine/Calvin the murderer) You on the other hand are Not saved, if you believe this trash.2.Jn.9

  • @sorens70601 Keep patting yourself on your back for the best decision that you have ever made in your life,I'm sure this will impress God as well.

  • @sorens70601 Arminianism is nothing but one man telling another he can make himself "BORN AGAIN" whenever he chooses to.It's like an undertaker explaining to a corpse that if he'll just stand up he can make himself alive.Jesus allowed Lazarus to die to teach us a very important lesson and not just to teach us He can raise the dead,because He had done that before.Jesus called to Lazarus first to awaken Him from death and then told him to come just as He calls His sheep FROM THE WORLD OF THE DEAD.

  • @CBALLEN Matt 1:21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”

    A.T. She will bear a son and you shall call his name Jesus,for He will TRY to save everyone.

    JN 15;16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit--fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.

    A.T.I did not choose you,you chose me and appointed yourself to go and bear fruit.

  • @sorens70601Rev 13:8 And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life before the world was made--the Book that belongs to the Lamb who was slaughtered.

    How did these people not choose God before they were created?Only God's people have their name in the Lamb's book of life before creation,no goat has their name written there.Only God's sheep will be called out of the world by the gospel,the rest will perish.

  • @sorens 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward YOU, not wishing that any (of you)should perish, but that all (of you)should reach repentance.

    This is Peter telling the BELIEVERS only that Jesus will not return until all the elect are born and converted,He is not patiently waiting on those who weren't written in the Lamb's book of life Rev 13:8,God is not insane.All men means Gentiles and Jews,not just Jews exclusively as it had been.

  • @CBALLEN ...Your attempt to modify 2.Pet.3:9 by adding the words 'of you' is not only Pathetic, but underscores your ignorance of biblical facts. The very fact that Jn.3:16 and Rev.22:17 emphatically declare "whosoever will", (which includes EVERY Human Being that has ever lived) as well as the fact that Christ in Jn.12:32 declares that if He be lifted up, He will draw "All Men" unto Him, as well as 1.Tim.2:4, "Who will have ALL Men to be saved, and come unto the knowledge of the Truth", it....

  • ...positively negates your presentation of the pathetic calvinist LIE, that 2.Pet.3:9 is limited to those "of you" as you have presented. Furthermore, in the Koine' Greek, the sentence; "not intending [ any ] (Gr. 'tinas' ) means all of the same species, (i.e. humanity) .and the sentence continuation of; "but that [ all ] (Gr.pantas) should come to repentence..." re-inforces yet again that ALL of Humanity is intended in this passage. So much for you stupid arguement and blatant ignorance.

  • @sorens70601 2 Peter 3:9 It's like someone saying to their family,I've cooked for you,now everyone come in and eat because I don't want anyone to leave hungry.This is the gospel truth.Peter is speaking to believers about the elect believers of the future,quit following the Roman Catholics,your Pope will send you to Hell.

  • @sorens70601 Do you deny that God knew both the sheep and goats before time?Since God did know them both do you think God is senile and He's trying to save people that He knew from before time that He NEVER would save?Why are you trying to mock God?I know! Because of your man made tradition.

  • @CBALLEN ...All you can do is make false accusations. You are the one following your Pope, Calvin. Besides, you are an idiot, based on the stupid analogy you present. You don't have the faintest idea of what the Gospel is, or what it entails. You are Lost, serving Satans doctrine in reformed theology.

  • @sorens70601 For the love of money is the root of all evil? Did Satan cause eve to eat of the fruit because of a love of cash?No,the love of money is the root of all KINDS of evil.

  • @sorens70601 Tell me,are you an open theist too? Is God dependent on man for anything??

  • @sorens70601 "Next, to tell me, (a missionary/Bible prophecy teacher, in ministry since 1963, and speaking more than 10 different languages) that you think "some study would be in order for me", is laughable, and only highlights your own ignorance''

    Then can I assume that you have cast out demons, propheciesd in and done many good works in Jesus name?Are you telling me once more,that all men are able to come to Jesus Christ in salvific belief whenever they decide to?

  • @sorens70601 All I know is that I am a wicked individual saved by God's grace alone and if He had not chosen to call me to believe through His Holy Spirit,I would have no hope at all and my sin would still be mine.I know I didn't want Him,I know I didn't seek Him and I know that He caused me to believe.Now I know Christ's righteousness has been imputed to me,I have none of my own,my sin was imputed to Christ and He took the wrath of God for every Elect person and not the wrath for even 1 goat.

  • @sorens70601 "Yes, God draws "all men", (not just a few, as Calvinism erroneously claims)"

    If God draws all men to Jesus then all men are saved John 6:44-65,are you a Universalist?

  • @sorens70601 Matt.13:11 And he(Jesus) answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.

    Romans 11:25 ......Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.

    I think some study would be in order for you,it appears that your traditions have replaced God's word altogether.

  • All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then hell. That's not Gods will. He suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His life's blood so He could legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from your sin and trust alone in Jesus Christ for your salvation.

  • The MacArthur Study Bible is the best study Bible on this planet right now--in my humble opinion! I'm not saying it is better than a whole set of great commentaries, in which every verse is carefully exegeted, and great expository commentary follows each verse! In Christ's Love, BobbyK

  • @Bill244888 "And you feel qualified to sit in judgment of God'sways?"

    WHAT have I written to give you such a propesterous idea?

    ALL Calvinist habitually insert there own ideas into whatever they read nowadays--eisegesis, you wouldn't be a Calvinists without it.

    Carry on, you are wasting my time.

  • In Calvinism, God Purposely Decreeds for Man to come into Existance DEAD, INVOLUNTARILY created to love SIN from the moment of conception, having NO ABILITY to repent or beg for mercy, the vast majority FATED for DAMNATION, PREDESTINED to burn forever, CHOSEN for Eternal Punishment, "Before having done anything either good or bad" for "His good pleasure to glorify himself".

    "O how BEAUTIFUL are the feet of those who preach the good news!"

  • @Isaiah1v18

    And you feel qualified to sit in judgment of God's ways?

    The arrogance of man knows no bounds

  • What happens to those who are not chosen?

  • @MrFlatroofer Why are you worried about that, should you not be more worried about whether or not you've been chosen, in fact John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." Seek Christ and you may come to find you were chosen then it won't matter, if not...God has a just righteous judgement that we all in fact deserve

  • You are twisting the bible. Keep your cult off the internet. Christ died for all who choose to accept him, not just an elect few.

  • @zillylala1231 the problem is no one seeks God, or the Kingdom. So who chooses God, no one God chooses us, look at Adam and Eve, when God asked them what they had done, they had no want to repent, no want to reunite the union with God that they had, but when God curses the serpent he shows his election by saying this Genesis 3:15 "And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

  • @zillylala1231 By saying HE WILL put enmity between Satan and the woman (Eve) He is saying that i will turn her love back to me, so how then has she chosen to return to God? And her seed are those who come from her (All of us) God will bring us from the kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of Light where then in their has a choice been made? I pray for you, your angry over something you shouldnt be focused on, but that by faith and trust in Christ you are saved, ill pray you understand

  • if it were not for God's electing grace where would be the blessedness that Jesus spoke of those who are poor in spirit? a most precious verse in recent days:

    Who is like unto the LORD our God, who dwelleth on high, Who humbleth himself to behold the things that are in heaven, and in the earth! He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth the needy out of the dunghill; Psalm 113:5-7 (verse 8-9 to what end and purpose). Praise ye the LORD!

  • I'm speaking to why the world church hates predestination, 2- hundred years ago most churches were predestination churches. The they fell away, and ran after the world.

    You can make alot more money in satans churches than God's ONE church.

  • Predestination will make no preacher rich, that is why God made it a controversy and non-profit, to keep these evil , greedy, wolves and their goats

    away from salvation.

  • @1952puddin I'm really not sure what you're trying to say are you speaking against the reformed faith or for it?

  • NICE!

  • Very good post...thank you.

  • @stack45ny No problem, may this wonderful truth be shared for many to come to the true knowledge of God!

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