holy crap Hitchens posesses the intellect of a great world leader far ahead of his time. He is a great threat to the traditional world elite and I fear that he is a strong candidate for another J.F.K. scenario.
Pro všechny lidi z České republiky,je tady nejvíc Ateistů,proč? Protože češi jsou obecně mnohem chytřejší,než ostatní národy.Víra rozhodně neukazuje míru blbosti,ale u nás to tak nějak je. Jak jednou řekl vážený pan Hitchens: "Je potřeba,aby člověk dosáhl takové důstojnosti,kterou potřebuje vrámci své inteligence.Lidé zkoncujte s tím!
@Narramudin Nemyslím si že by Češi byli chytřejší než lidé jiných národností, spíš si myslím že jsme skeptičtější, víc zpochybňujeme různé ideje a autority. Myslím že je to do značné míry dáno naší historií, kdy se nám několik posledních století vždy někdo snažil nacpat svou "pravdu" do chřtánu. Jak řekl tuším heydrich, jsme "smějící se bestie", jsme rouhači a ani sebe nebereme smrtelně vážně. To je úžasná národní vlastnost a jeden z důvodů proč jsem hrdý na to, že jsem Čechem:)
The panelist completely ignores Hitchens' statement about Abraham, because HE HAS NO ANSWER, instead changing the subject. Religion is a scourge on our beloved planet; believers need to be awakened from this nightmare which ahs caused the senseless deaths and torture of untold millions and millions of innocents in the name of "God." I spit upon this God!
To je naprosto "boží" a já ti děkuji, že jsi to přeložil a umožnil tak všem co neumí anglicky si to přečíst. Je to naprosto tak, jak o tom Hitchens mluví, je třeba skoncovat s náboženstvím, jenže... v EU se chystají vyučovat islámu stejně jako křesťanství povinně na školách... Budou se opět ateisti pálit na hranicích jako kacíři, a nebo je budou muslimové kamenovat? Řezat jim hlavy? Zbláznili jsme se?
Lidstvo až na jedince nedělá v myšlení pokrok, stále je více jak 60 procent lidí zcela ovlivnitelných jakýmkoli ismem, protože jsou nevzdělaní a tím pádem zcela nepřipravení vzdorovat bludům. Je to způsobeno jednak malým IQ, jednak bídou, ale také brainwashingem od dětství. Co s těmito lidmi, jak jim zabránit ve víře v dementnosti, když ani výchova dětí v sektách, není podle našich zákonů trestná?
I was just putting the "antiport" to those people who say that religion is the root of evil, DirtyDirtracer2006. Religion can also have good results !
@morgandrim Then you're living proof that you have no morals, and you just need an imaginary bully to scare you off from being the asshole that you really are. This hardly speaks in favour of religion, don't you agree?
Again, I have the impression that he is confusing the ossified forms of religious bigotry with the deep religious urges and moments of transcendence that make up human existence and that attempt to grapple with nonrational forces (love, grief etc.). Hitch ignores that religion in its core struggles to explain the value of moral life. If someone simply does not care if his actions exploit others, no philosophical knockdown argument will cause that individual to act morally, the religious ones do.
i tend to think one of the worlds leading public intellectuals, has not overlooked something. in fact, i tend to take his utterances over those on youtube comment pages hands down.
That is a weak argument. What you suggest is that it is only religion that prevents the religious from causing harm and that an atheist cannot make sense of their existence. Like wise, you seem to suggest that we hate or love in a different way to someone who has control these through an unexplainable. Transcendence is completely possible without the need for a god and evidence is overwhelming that religious people are less moral than un/irreligious.
It is your right to consider my argument weak, but do not put words in my mouth. I have no reason to suggest that an atheist cannot make sense of his existence and I regard it as morally wrong to pre-judge people I've never met. Nor have I suggested that religion is the only way to transcendence. My point is that ultimately how good one is depends on the notion that there is a clearly defined notion of morality, and religion does define the moral duties to others, to society and to humanity.
"My point is that ultimately how good one is depends on the notion that there is a clearly defined notion of morality, and religion does define the moral duties to others, to society and to humanity." A pompous judgement of people you have never met.
Your suggestion that I judge people because I assert that there has to be a moral consensus seems a bit unfair to me. In order to clarify let me point out that I'm not advocating a single dominant voice to determine what is moral in a plural society, but I don't think morality should only be a private affair. There has to be a civil conversation about it and the religious tradition can distinctively contribute, since it struggles to explain morality as something that goes beyond self-interest.
The religious tradition struggles as it tries to go forward on a false premise, that being that morality is a dictate. Without a religious stand point there would be no 'other side' to the fact that good behaviour is human and not divine. My 'suggestion' is only unfair if exposing a mirror is unfair. You are Confuscious to my Lau Tzu.
Well first of all, the demand for moral consensus, i.e. moral bond linking individuals in a shared society, comes not exclusively from „the religious" but from anyone who is worried about the growing moral relativism. Secondly, the religious tradition is based on the premise that absolute moral standards cannot be reduced to matters of self-interest, personal opinion or dictate of a group of people.
Well first of all, the demand for moral consensus, i.e. moral bond linking individuals in a shared society, comes not exclusively from „the religious" but from anyone who is worried about the growing moral relativism. Secondly, the religious tradition is based on the premise that absolute moral standards cannot be reduced to matters of self-interest, personal opinion or dictate of a group of people.
@ThePowerFunt: The last post was a response to you. Call it whatever you please but explain what is false on the rule that it is forbidden to steal because it is morally wrong, even if the society changes its opinion, even if you're deprived. The religious is obliged to follow the rule, regardless of whether it is materially beneficial. The fullfilment means "only" spiritual growth, since the supreme religious virtue is humility. In my view, this contributes to common understanding of morality.
'morally' wrong? No, it is not morally wrong to steal just as it is not 'morally' wrong to kill. My issue with you is the use of absolutes from an immaterial authority. The idea even that the highest virtue of supreme religion is humility is a joke for two obvious reasons. (a how do you be humble to a none entity and b, the complete lack of humility of those 'in the know' so to speak). And re-previoius post from you...in practice the opposite would be so. Oh, we need more room...to get detailed.
"The only book that means anything to them."
What a stupid thing to have said and an even worse position to hold.
Never trust someone who reads just one book.
Averagegamer100 1 year ago
Díky moc za titulky k Hitchensovým videím, takhle se dostanou k víc lidem, keep up the good work!!
RUBENSolol 1 year ago
Inoculation against plague HAHA
MasonicEyes 1 year ago
holy crap Hitchens posesses the intellect of a great world leader far ahead of his time. He is a great threat to the traditional world elite and I fear that he is a strong candidate for another J.F.K. scenario.
kick08ful 1 year ago
Pro všechny lidi z České republiky,je tady nejvíc Ateistů,proč? Protože češi jsou obecně mnohem chytřejší,než ostatní národy.Víra rozhodně neukazuje míru blbosti,ale u nás to tak nějak je. Jak jednou řekl vážený pan Hitchens: "Je potřeba,aby člověk dosáhl takové důstojnosti,kterou potřebuje vrámci své inteligence.Lidé zkoncujte s tím!
Narramudin 1 year ago
@Narramudin Nemyslím si že by Češi byli chytřejší než lidé jiných národností, spíš si myslím že jsme skeptičtější, víc zpochybňujeme různé ideje a autority. Myslím že je to do značné míry dáno naší historií, kdy se nám několik posledních století vždy někdo snažil nacpat svou "pravdu" do chřtánu. Jak řekl tuším heydrich, jsme "smějící se bestie", jsme rouhači a ani sebe nebereme smrtelně vážně. To je úžasná národní vlastnost a jeden z důvodů proč jsem hrdý na to, že jsem Čechem:)
RUBENSolol 1 year ago 2
The panelist completely ignores Hitchens' statement about Abraham, because HE HAS NO ANSWER, instead changing the subject. Religion is a scourge on our beloved planet; believers need to be awakened from this nightmare which ahs caused the senseless deaths and torture of untold millions and millions of innocents in the name of "God." I spit upon this God!
billyguns2 2 years ago
Czech rep.
59% population are ateist.
27% are catolic. I hope in 2020 will be 70%ateist.
Frtusidm 2 years ago 11
i am supposed to be going there this summer, i am very happy to hear that
honkyxadonis 1 year ago
@Frtusidm It will be sooner 2010 - 10% catholic, 80% Atheist or didnt answer the religion question....
Fishbed21MF 5 days ago
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wqedsahnbe 2 years ago
To je naprosto "boží" a já ti děkuji, že jsi to přeložil a umožnil tak všem co neumí anglicky si to přečíst. Je to naprosto tak, jak o tom Hitchens mluví, je třeba skoncovat s náboženstvím, jenže... v EU se chystají vyučovat islámu stejně jako křesťanství povinně na školách... Budou se opět ateisti pálit na hranicích jako kacíři, a nebo je budou muslimové kamenovat? Řezat jim hlavy? Zbláznili jsme se?
Samantha131313 3 years ago 3
Lidstvo až na jedince nedělá v myšlení pokrok, stále je více jak 60 procent lidí zcela ovlivnitelných jakýmkoli ismem, protože jsou nevzdělaní a tím pádem zcela nepřipravení vzdorovat bludům. Je to způsobeno jednak malým IQ, jednak bídou, ale také brainwashingem od dětství. Co s těmito lidmi, jak jim zabránit ve víře v dementnosti, když ani výchova dětí v sektách, není podle našich zákonů trestná?
Samantha131313 3 years ago 2
Jsme tací, protože nám chybí cizí přirozený predátor, a tak jsme jím sami sobě, skrze rozličné víry a Bohy?
Samantha131313 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
If I didn`t believe in God, I`d kill about 95% of the people I know.
morgandrim 3 years ago
are you sick in the head?
DirtyDirtracer2006 3 years ago
I was just putting the "antiport" to those people who say that religion is the root of evil, DirtyDirtracer2006. Religion can also have good results !
morgandrim 3 years ago
Well, why don't you just kill them and then ask Jesus for forgiveness? That's what I'd do, had I believed in God.
8080256256 3 years ago 8
Wow - just conjure up a belief in God then, 8080... and then you can do whatever you like. As YOU say, that`s what you`d do...
morgandrim 3 years ago
lol
LIVEETERNALLOVE 2 years ago
@morgandrim Then you're living proof that you have no morals, and you just need an imaginary bully to scare you off from being the asshole that you really are. This hardly speaks in favour of religion, don't you agree?
KryzMasta 10 months ago
Again, I have the impression that he is confusing the ossified forms of religious bigotry with the deep religious urges and moments of transcendence that make up human existence and that attempt to grapple with nonrational forces (love, grief etc.). Hitch ignores that religion in its core struggles to explain the value of moral life. If someone simply does not care if his actions exploit others, no philosophical knockdown argument will cause that individual to act morally, the religious ones do.
kranjborn 3 years ago
i tend to think one of the worlds leading public intellectuals, has not overlooked something. in fact, i tend to take his utterances over those on youtube comment pages hands down.
iyork 3 years ago
That is a weak argument. What you suggest is that it is only religion that prevents the religious from causing harm and that an atheist cannot make sense of their existence. Like wise, you seem to suggest that we hate or love in a different way to someone who has control these through an unexplainable. Transcendence is completely possible without the need for a god and evidence is overwhelming that religious people are less moral than un/irreligious.
ThePowerFunt 3 years ago
It is your right to consider my argument weak, but do not put words in my mouth. I have no reason to suggest that an atheist cannot make sense of his existence and I regard it as morally wrong to pre-judge people I've never met. Nor have I suggested that religion is the only way to transcendence. My point is that ultimately how good one is depends on the notion that there is a clearly defined notion of morality, and religion does define the moral duties to others, to society and to humanity.
kranjborn 3 years ago
"My point is that ultimately how good one is depends on the notion that there is a clearly defined notion of morality, and religion does define the moral duties to others, to society and to humanity." A pompous judgement of people you have never met.
ThePowerFunt 3 years ago
Your suggestion that I judge people because I assert that there has to be a moral consensus seems a bit unfair to me. In order to clarify let me point out that I'm not advocating a single dominant voice to determine what is moral in a plural society, but I don't think morality should only be a private affair. There has to be a civil conversation about it and the religious tradition can distinctively contribute, since it struggles to explain morality as something that goes beyond self-interest.
kranjborn 3 years ago
The religious tradition struggles as it tries to go forward on a false premise, that being that morality is a dictate. Without a religious stand point there would be no 'other side' to the fact that good behaviour is human and not divine. My 'suggestion' is only unfair if exposing a mirror is unfair. You are Confuscious to my Lau Tzu.
ThePowerFunt 3 years ago
Well first of all, the demand for moral consensus, i.e. moral bond linking individuals in a shared society, comes not exclusively from „the religious" but from anyone who is worried about the growing moral relativism. Secondly, the religious tradition is based on the premise that absolute moral standards cannot be reduced to matters of self-interest, personal opinion or dictate of a group of people.
kranjborn 3 years ago
Well first of all, the demand for moral consensus, i.e. moral bond linking individuals in a shared society, comes not exclusively from „the religious" but from anyone who is worried about the growing moral relativism. Secondly, the religious tradition is based on the premise that absolute moral standards cannot be reduced to matters of self-interest, personal opinion or dictate of a group of people.
kranjborn 3 years ago
@ThePowerFunt: The last post was a response to you. Call it whatever you please but explain what is false on the rule that it is forbidden to steal because it is morally wrong, even if the society changes its opinion, even if you're deprived. The religious is obliged to follow the rule, regardless of whether it is materially beneficial. The fullfilment means "only" spiritual growth, since the supreme religious virtue is humility. In my view, this contributes to common understanding of morality.
kranjborn 3 years ago
'morally' wrong? No, it is not morally wrong to steal just as it is not 'morally' wrong to kill. My issue with you is the use of absolutes from an immaterial authority. The idea even that the highest virtue of supreme religion is humility is a joke for two obvious reasons. (a how do you be humble to a none entity and b, the complete lack of humility of those 'in the know' so to speak). And re-previoius post from you...in practice the opposite would be so. Oh, we need more room...to get detailed.
ThePowerFunt 3 years ago
Nice to listen to Hitchens with subtitles of the lovely language I studied in Olomouc a few years ago, even if I barely understand it anymore. :)
skotoseme 3 years ago
Hitchens is God!
earthling770707 3 years ago
I have one more at this moment - his great speach in Toronto in 2006, check my videos.
8080256256 3 years ago
more Hitch in czech pls!
truestefq 3 years ago 7
Don´t worry, more coming soon...
8080256256 3 years ago
CH for President!
greenboylondon 3 years ago 10