I find it pretentious that she considers herself avant garde when all shes doing is playing a bunch of loops. This is the first search result under "avant garde music" which is disappointing because this is a terrible example of it.
talented....but the intellectual jargon of "information architecture blah blah" obfuscates her artistry rather than enhances it. Just play the instrument love, let it do the talking for you. Give the listener a chance to interpret the music and decide for him/herself "what your music is" or isn't. This way, you won't come across as an elitist or condescend your listeners. No mission-statements, manifestos, disclaimers--JUST PLAY.
@okturus There were no mission statements, manifestos, or disclaimers in there. She was just explaining how she writes a song. There was no intellectual jargon, other than the most basic sort of technical terms. I don't think she came across as elitist or condescending at all. Yes, she sounds like she used to be a software engineer, because she was one.
@dovren1 I think just has social issues (the same way some geniuses have troubles talking to people) and therefore her explanation of expression can seem "condescending".
"Didn't go as planned" That's because everyone else sucked at the cello compared to her, and I do not consider her avant-garde at all. I consider her extremely talented and creative. I don't think she's pushing the boundaries of the acceptable status quo in the cultural realm...
I like her playing but she's just a tad too pretentious - informational architecture? Meta-data? Come on honey, you're just hitting a loop pedal with your feet.
@utube9000 She used to work with that before she became a full-time touring musician... So she's just explaining how she looks at (and thinks about) music. She's extremely unpretentious, I would say.
Ya, maybe pretentious was the wrong word. More like "over analytical". I can definitely see that she comes from a technology background - when she describes her music, it sounds like she's describing an IT startup.
well.... is closer to minimal but not quite that either.... I think that it should be considered as beutifull instrumetal music. But not as avant garde... is very much based to tonic relations and traditional harmony...
Yeah, nothing new here. She just used information architectural words to describe a few of the most usual musical construction. I can't see or hear any avant-garde in this. find a spot, mark it as your own, construct. Deleuzian loops and rittornellos. That's all I hear.
Zoe, you are an inspiration to me as a fellow artist music. Although Im in a whole different genre of music, I can still appreciate your entrepreneurship, I wish The Urban Market was just as supportive on line as your market.
@nimuroji oh now I notice she does have a little pickup on there attached to the tail piece, but I dk what model that is. def check out string stores online, I'm sure you'll figure out what it is... or she might have it on her website, too.
really? she looks blind when she plays/ she probally cant go one piece without her eyes even open, and she looks really odd. weeird acent but shes reallly good!
@cj10109 i make music like this with guitar, except i dont own a real looper, cause their insane expensive (good ones, ones worth getting) so i use delay and everything i play repeats for a certain amount of time
She is amazing and she works with Loops (on Abbleton Live) in a very impressive way. I'm sorry but this is not avant-garde at all. This is minimal Music not much different from Reich, nor Adams.
I've been listening to Zoe Keating since I first encountered "Music for 16 Cellos" in 2001. She's an amazing artist. Do yourself a favor and see her perform live.
Excellent! Thanks for posting that. I would like to have heard a clown juggling hedgehogs whilst his second cousin peels an onion on top of a giant cigarette packet, but maybe I'm a bit hard to please.
Anyway, if you enjoy watching hamsters balancing onions, you may also enjoy a site called icrappoetry (.com). Best wishes!
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do you seriously fucking believe... that the way you make music... is in any way unique. EVERYBODY does that, especially if they have protools or some other mixing crap. your talented, but functionality? Is that seriously the word your going to use to describe what you seek in your music? try soul? im sorry if you cant run it through a midi port
I'm in love with this idea and this music. If more people used what we have in the world to make art and music it would be a more functional and better place to live.
experimenting doesn't instantly equal "avant garde". I like her music very much but in the end, she's just using a looper in a really straightforward way.
it doesnt have to be "uneasy" for it to be avant garde.
i think it is avant garde because of its innovative process in the making of the pieces. the performance itself is avant garde, the sound isn't stereotypically avante garde.
'Avant-garde in music can refer to any form of music working within traditional structures while seeking to breach boundaries in some manner.'
Neither the performance nor her methodology she uses to compose music are in any way new or challenging. When she stated that she creates lots of little pieces of music and then looks for a way to make them into a whole instantly reminded me of Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. He used this technique in the sixties to produce Good Vibrations and many records.
I loved your video. I'm a programmer too and well... I'm not a musician but I do enjoy playing some instruments. Your idea sounds marvelous and I will try to write something with your method as soon as possible =D.
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I've heard better music squeeze out my asshole. Piecing songs together piece by piece doesn't make you a technophle, it's something that all musicians have done since the beginning of music.
Zoe Keating is brilliant. She composes and plays beautifully. I've seen her in concert, and it's ALL about the music. She plays with passion & conviction. I wasn't the only one that got emotional during her concert... & if she can bring tears to peoples' eyes, and FEEL something, then I'd say that was pretty deep.
I think she was generous in sharing her process. Problem solving methods can cross over into all sorts of creative projects. It's Wired who want's the technology angle discussed.
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Well you can talk about stuff all you want and dress up your craft in all kinds of words, nic-nacs. In the end your still left with sound- hopefully something original. I've seen artist talk up a storm about their art but in the end you look at the art and it's just some paint on canvas- nothing as 'original' as the words used to describe it! Ha, ha! Anyway, this sound doesn't even scratch the surface of music. Great art is deep I know it when I hear, see it.This isn't deep at all!
I love cello, and she plays extremely well, but when I think of avant garde music, I think of people hitting lamps with cello bows, throwing frogs, and randomly chirping and hooting.
@spartan2600 As far as pop music goes, I would say it IS an art, although not an art of music. Yes, it requires some understanding of music, but to a very basic extent. It's more an art of salesmanship and the ability to get people to buy it.
@spartan2600 that's not at all what avant garde is. the word avant-garde comes from the french word for vanguard, which is someone on the frontline. avant garde music is on the front line, the cutting edge, ahead of everything in its time. I mean, sure those things can be considered avant garde but I don't really think that's in any ind of music. That's just examples of people trying too hard.
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I think its funny that they refer to this as "avant garde". Sounds like pop music.
pdshelton 2 days ago
I find it pretentious that she considers herself avant garde when all shes doing is playing a bunch of loops. This is the first search result under "avant garde music" which is disappointing because this is a terrible example of it.
bvxcvb 4 weeks ago
good for you............
captianbloodful 4 weeks ago
Doesn't sound very avant-garde to me...
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waltnuts2 2 months ago
talented....but the intellectual jargon of "information architecture blah blah" obfuscates her artistry rather than enhances it. Just play the instrument love, let it do the talking for you. Give the listener a chance to interpret the music and decide for him/herself "what your music is" or isn't. This way, you won't come across as an elitist or condescend your listeners. No mission-statements, manifestos, disclaimers--JUST PLAY.
okturus 3 months ago
@okturus There were no mission statements, manifestos, or disclaimers in there. She was just explaining how she writes a song. There was no intellectual jargon, other than the most basic sort of technical terms. I don't think she came across as elitist or condescending at all. Yes, she sounds like she used to be a software engineer, because she was one.
Manuelomar2001 3 months ago 2
@okturus Wait, you think she comes off as condescending!!?
dovren1 1 month ago
@dovren1 I think just has social issues (the same way some geniuses have troubles talking to people) and therefore her explanation of expression can seem "condescending".
BrandonTourangeau11 3 weeks ago
this isn't really new....ever heard of minus the bear? they use the exact same technique and use of technology....
diediedieu 3 months ago
what a dipshit
sweatygirl2 3 months ago
What is that 1st song??? I love it!!!
ImRandomSara 4 months ago
"Didn't go as planned" That's because everyone else sucked at the cello compared to her, and I do not consider her avant-garde at all. I consider her extremely talented and creative. I don't think she's pushing the boundaries of the acceptable status quo in the cultural realm...
danimal24585 4 months ago
Anal Cunt is better
shitfacedreprobate 5 months ago
I think, I watched the most inspiring 3 minutes and 13 seconds of my life!
chaoscast 5 months ago
I like her playing but she's just a tad too pretentious - informational architecture? Meta-data? Come on honey, you're just hitting a loop pedal with your feet.
utube9000 6 months ago
@utube9000 She used to work with that before she became a full-time touring musician... So she's just explaining how she looks at (and thinks about) music. She's extremely unpretentious, I would say.
micekingii 6 months ago 5
Ya, maybe pretentious was the wrong word. More like "over analytical". I can definitely see that she comes from a technology background - when she describes her music, it sounds like she's describing an IT startup.
utube9000 6 months ago
@utube9000 She was describing what goes on in her head when she composes a piece, not what she physically does during the performance.
Manuelomar2001 3 months ago
She's like the conan obrien of the cello. Rising up to the sky in a small basket, embracing a fear of heights. Fear sublimated into blue peace.
jasperanklesighs 6 months ago
well.... is closer to minimal but not quite that either.... I think that it should be considered as beutifull instrumetal music. But not as avant garde... is very much based to tonic relations and traditional harmony...
galliard1981 6 months ago
this is avant garde? this sounds too structured and, well good to be avant garde =/
KuraMad2000 6 months ago 2
I believe avant garde refers here to the fact that she is the first cellist to use loops this way live, with this kind of music.
(imo )
daviper1 7 months ago
I COULD NOT STAND THIS FOR A WHOLE ALBUM TOO MUCH OF THE SAME OVER AND OVER BOREING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
johnartmaster 7 months ago
This isn't avante garde
philnoll 7 months ago 3
Yeah, nothing new here. She just used information architectural words to describe a few of the most usual musical construction. I can't see or hear any avant-garde in this. find a spot, mark it as your own, construct. Deleuzian loops and rittornellos. That's all I hear.
ogogaiht 8 months ago
12 people are either deaf or don't know what BEAUTIFUL music is....
mirzaitziar 8 months ago
Zoe, you are an inspiration to me as a fellow artist music. Although Im in a whole different genre of music, I can still appreciate your entrepreneurship, I wish The Urban Market was just as supportive on line as your market.
bobbywashington 9 months ago
@bobbywashington What are you saying?
silenceisgoldman 8 months ago
This really rocks @!
TheFaustianMan 9 months ago
thank you radiolab :)
shirononeko 10 months ago
she needs 16 cellists? i would run over there
heroechild 10 months ago
<3
Johnny123456789x 11 months ago
this is beautiful! where can i fond her personal youtube channel?????
rawfflecakes 11 months ago
wow! im no raw instrumental music fanatic but the way she approaches her pieces.. she sees music as science.. love that!
manee1992 1 year ago
this is minimalist, not avant garde. she's got a nice sound.
ajpthree 1 year ago 3
Not avant garde at all but ok anyway
MsPsycho29 1 year ago
either I don't understand what she's saying..... or this is all about looping with "avant" adjectives ...
juliedog464 1 year ago
Sounds really good
88fuzz 1 year ago
What is the pickup she is using?
nimuroji 1 year ago
@nimuroji looks like an amt mic to me (not a pickup), but I'm not an expert. talk to your local string shop, or check kolstein's site maybe...
ajpthree 1 year ago
@nimuroji oh now I notice she does have a little pickup on there attached to the tail piece, but I dk what model that is. def check out string stores online, I'm sure you'll figure out what it is... or she might have it on her website, too.
ajpthree 1 year ago
god I love her music...
by the way she looks like bugs bunny
TeraMooch 1 year ago
really? she looks blind when she plays/ she probally cant go one piece without her eyes even open, and she looks really odd. weeird acent but shes reallly good!
GirlsRule430 1 year ago
Ahh <333 I saw her live!! She is sooo nice!!(: I got a hug form her TwT :D I love her music<3
meyuuu 1 year ago
wow beuty music
Kios1335 1 year ago
Not sure if this is a chick or a womanly dude.
Phelan666 1 year ago
Zoe, you are awesome!
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marklingard9 1 year ago
thats pretty cool. could i do that with the guitar?
cj10109 1 year ago
@cj10109 i make music like this with guitar, except i dont own a real looper, cause their insane expensive (good ones, ones worth getting) so i use delay and everything i play repeats for a certain amount of time
SeanSeanSeanCanada 1 year ago
@cj10109 Yeah, you could do it with any instrument.
ZachIsGrasshopper 1 year ago
What is the song called at the beginning from 0:07 till 0:15?
lisalawliet 1 year ago
She is amazing and she works with Loops (on Abbleton Live) in a very impressive way. I'm sorry but this is not avant-garde at all. This is minimal Music not much different from Reich, nor Adams.
Though it's very nice.
Vitisaurio 1 year ago
Magnifica!! Una pieza genial.
YOLIZTLEATLE 1 year ago
Very nice video. Do your thing girlfriend!
ddm8053 1 year ago
Avant Garde is French for bullshit.
brenfen 1 year ago
I've been listening to Zoe Keating since I first encountered "Music for 16 Cellos" in 2001. She's an amazing artist. Do yourself a favor and see her perform live.
hansineffect 1 year ago
maybe if she went back into the classical music world, she could fix her bow hold...and hair.
connaisons 1 year ago
Thanks for posting. Keep on playing ! !
PaulMurphyJazzDrum 1 year ago
Excellent! Thanks for posting that. I would like to have heard a clown juggling hedgehogs whilst his second cousin peels an onion on top of a giant cigarette packet, but maybe I'm a bit hard to please.
Anyway, if you enjoy watching hamsters balancing onions, you may also enjoy a site called icrappoetry (.com). Best wishes!
Cantonaahh 1 year ago
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JULIEORDONPROJECT 1 year ago
I don't know what metadata is. But the music is interesting.
affectivity 1 year ago
Simply Brilliant
drumboogie66 1 year ago
What song is she playing in the beginning?!
AyashaYumi 1 year ago
nice song!
hotmailamir 1 year ago
do you seriously fucking believe... that the way you make music... is in any way unique. EVERYBODY does that, especially if they have protools or some other mixing crap. your talented, but functionality? Is that seriously the word your going to use to describe what you seek in your music? try soul? im sorry if you cant run it through a midi port
rhythmofchains 1 year ago
I like the music but don't find it challenging or unusual enough to say that its avant guard.
mothman2 1 year ago
I'm in love with this idea and this music. If more people used what we have in the world to make art and music it would be a more functional and better place to live.
Frankboersig 1 year ago
nice dreads
joemuthafuckinschmoe 1 year ago
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what a bunch of crap. lol.
raydn23 2 years ago
why is it a bunch of crap raydn23?
oprachik 2 years ago 2
0:45
googlekopfkind 2 years ago
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does she have a mustache?
saailaway 2 years ago
Beautiful & inspiring Zoe!
yourpaljc 2 years ago
I don't understand how this is Avant Garde. She does a pretty good job though.
Forrester 2 years ago
@Forrester Indeed. Not very avant-garde but very beautiful music.
masael255 2 years ago
its Avant Garde due to its experimental process of making music.
oprachik 2 years ago
experimenting doesn't instantly equal "avant garde". I like her music very much but in the end, she's just using a looper in a really straightforward way.
sitjar 1 year ago
@oprachik Exactaly
Stilkk 1 year ago
I agree; it seems a little too easy on the ears to be what I'd expect from something labelled 'Avant Garde'
MrRefridgeration 2 years ago
it doesnt have to be "uneasy" for it to be avant garde.
i think it is avant garde because of its innovative process in the making of the pieces. the performance itself is avant garde, the sound isn't stereotypically avante garde.
'Avant-garde in music can refer to any form of music working within traditional structures while seeking to breach boundaries in some manner.'
oprachik 1 year ago
Neither the performance nor her methodology she uses to compose music are in any way new or challenging. When she stated that she creates lots of little pieces of music and then looks for a way to make them into a whole instantly reminded me of Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. He used this technique in the sixties to produce Good Vibrations and many records.
mothman2 1 year ago
sorry bro... meant to give u the thumbs up!!!
rhythmofchains 1 year ago
@mothman2 gahh i'm so sorry. apparently i voted you down by accident. i wasn't even trying to vote, just trying to scroll
kmlan1 1 year ago
Amazing, awe inspiring music, thank you Zoe
Drillogik 2 years ago
I loved your video. I'm a programmer too and well... I'm not a musician but I do enjoy playing some instruments. Your idea sounds marvelous and I will try to write something with your method as soon as possible =D.
Keep up your beautiful work.
darkhearth 2 years ago 3
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darkhearth 2 years ago
Ditto that ditto that ditto.
terribletimez 2 years ago 2
I remember when she was with Rasputina.
bbv1194 2 years ago 2
thats why she looked familiar!
Thank you
dawnredskye 2 years ago
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I've heard better music squeeze out my asshole. Piecing songs together piece by piece doesn't make you a technophle, it's something that all musicians have done since the beginning of music.
BleedingAnus 2 years ago
Ditto that ditto :)
RavenWolffen 2 years ago 3
Thanks to Felicia Day for tuning me on to this. Awesome musician.
digital1970 2 years ago 24
Ditto that!
flutetrinity 2 years ago 3
Zoe Keating is brilliant. She composes and plays beautifully. I've seen her in concert, and it's ALL about the music. She plays with passion & conviction. I wasn't the only one that got emotional during her concert... & if she can bring tears to peoples' eyes, and FEEL something, then I'd say that was pretty deep.
I think she was generous in sharing her process. Problem solving methods can cross over into all sorts of creative projects. It's Wired who want's the technology angle discussed.
terryonthego 2 years ago 8
Its deep, good info. I'm glad you created this style.
VeraFX 2 years ago 4
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Well you can talk about stuff all you want and dress up your craft in all kinds of words, nic-nacs. In the end your still left with sound- hopefully something original. I've seen artist talk up a storm about their art but in the end you look at the art and it's just some paint on canvas- nothing as 'original' as the words used to describe it! Ha, ha! Anyway, this sound doesn't even scratch the surface of music. Great art is deep I know it when I hear, see it.This isn't deep at all!
pishdad 2 years ago
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that's one very unpleasant voice listening to.
YUMMYngbird 2 years ago
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I saw your comment before the video started, and thought she was going to start singing... then i realized that it's her talking voice that's gross.
squeens187 2 years ago
I love cello, and she plays extremely well, but when I think of avant garde music, I think of people hitting lamps with cello bows, throwing frogs, and randomly chirping and hooting.
spartan2600 2 years ago 42
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAha
Curetiamhices 2 years ago
@spartan2600
Or disregard of musical thoery...none really here.
mushr00mhelmet 1 year ago
@spartan2600 Ever listened to Naked City?
LaLiLuLeLo1991 1 year ago
@spartan2600 avant is not just that. it's music that is actually considered an art by all music conservatories, unlike the pop music of today
JumpShotDude 10 months ago
@JumpShotDude Pop music isn't art? I think Duchamp would have something to say about that.
spartan2600 10 months ago
@spartan2600 As far as pop music goes, I would say it IS an art, although not an art of music. Yes, it requires some understanding of music, but to a very basic extent. It's more an art of salesmanship and the ability to get people to buy it.
rockster07 10 months ago 6
@spartan2600 I think Duchamp is dead and buried. the idea of 50's avant-garde on 2011 makes no sense at all to me.
ogogaiht 8 months ago
@spartan2600 Indeed. This doesn't really sound like the avant-garde I know. I mean, it actually sounds like music.
Demoras 8 months ago
@spartan2600 that's not at all what avant garde is. the word avant-garde comes from the french word for vanguard, which is someone on the frontline. avant garde music is on the front line, the cutting edge, ahead of everything in its time. I mean, sure those things can be considered avant garde but I don't really think that's in any ind of music. That's just examples of people trying too hard.
mattwatchesvids 8 months ago
@mattwatchesvids I don't believe looping is avant garde. It's used too commonly to be considered avant garde anymore.
StrawberryJungle 8 months ago
Does anyone know the title of the song she plays at the very beginning? She is amazing, I am completely hooked.
hartuki 2 years ago 2
This artist is one of my heroes!
EASTANAHAMBE 2 years ago 4
some parts sound like the master of puppets solo
still cool, but that shit was almost note for note in a different key
megadethrulez 2 years ago
I wish I could play the cello like her. Miss Keating is brilliant!
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Oh my...please have my children !
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RichNigga877 2 years ago
Where can I find a girl with a mind like this?
Same general idea as Robert Fripp and fripatronics in the 70's
BeondaPale 2 years ago
oo you can find them anywhere in the world. i have a friend who's just like that! the problem is that they are rare :/
Wamuigi 2 years ago
lovely
thefeebleboosh 2 years ago 2
Macbook Pro.
LoveandEqualityToAll 2 years ago
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!! you are so cool, I wish I wouldnt have stopped playing I really loved it
fishy7fishy 2 years ago
Carrot Top's Sister Is More Talented Than Him!
asilayloathing 2 years ago 2
lol's
LJ080805 2 years ago
awesome!
foodaggression 2 years ago
Neato. I would enjoy hearing full pieces. Links?
SearchFindNowMine 2 years ago
the band rasputina
exodus2142 2 years ago
Very cool
precociouspariah 2 years ago
thats really great
gabrielk310 2 years ago 2