It's really epic what your doing I get alot of shit from people that are Christians and I am one on how I dress and such it drives me insance how most Christians are there snotty and just mean to others... -,.,- it's nice to see someone else with a open mind for once
lol im one of the securitys at bravo glad to know that not all goths are satanic maybe ill feel a lil more safe at work on sundays jk lol i really like some of the music industrial and ebm good stuff
I always hated the mentality of Christians that you have to be a SHEEP. I am NOT A SHEEP, and find anyone calling me one to be derogatory! Sheep have no free thought and depend completely on someone else. Sheep are ignorant and blissfully unaware of the world around them. I don't hate on Christians, I hate on sheep mentality and constantly being told that you are a piece of shit and have no free thought, so much for being sentient.
btw. I recently gave up christianity but seeing you reminds me a lot of the Christian I used to be. I`d be interested to here what you have to say about some of the things that lead me to give up the faith. Not that I`m trying to get you to give it up or anything. I think it`s cool what you`re doing, and I don`t intend to come back to xianity either, but just think it would interesting to hear your thoughts.
@okamichamploo - Thank you very much : ) I would definitely be interested in hearing what you have to say. Hopefully at the very least we can learn something from each other's stories and points of view. : )
There's a link to my FB page on my channel if you'd like to contact me through there (that's the easiest way to get in touch with me; I don't come on Youtube much these days), but if you're not on there we can message here. : )
I don't belive in god or the bible. I mean for all we know it's was made up from a crazy guy. But be for that I was cristan and they welcome me even thow i'm gothic. ^_^
@yk91o1 - The crazy-guy theory is pretty unlikely, especially considering the Bible is composed of 66 books written by 40 different authors (thus all 40 would have to be "crazy" and still agree with each other). Many of the accounts recorded in the Bible can be historically/archeologically verified tho, not to mention there's some pretty powerful anthropological evidence supporting the resurrection of Christ, and therefore His divinity, etc.
@BondSlaveSoldier Sorry, dear ... but "EBM, Darkwave" is not - strictly speaking - Gothic music, since "Gothic ROCK" (emphasis on Rock) is the genre's full name and "EBM, Darkwave" is not Rock. EBM and Darkwave are relatively new additions to the genre (with Industrial being a genre of its own). All the original Goth bands conform to the requirements of Rock.
@iatealligator - No, I'm just being myself. I try to share Christ wherever I am at, and Goth clubs are no exception. If you think my religious identity makes me a poser, then all that shows me is that you're quite ignorant about the Gothic subculture. The subculture does not subscribe to any one religion or lack-thereof. Ask any real Goth that. : P
OMG UR SOOOOO CUTE o.o sorry i'm wierd but anyway cool video ^^ ur voice is so soft and gentle ur now my new teddy ^^ LOL JKJKJKJK ur soooooooooooo cool
lol No problem but seriously ur like one of those guys that look like the type that says" dont fuck with me" and yet u seem sooooooooooo teddy like nice kind and gentle and sooooooooooooo coooooool :)
you should listen to spectrum x or noisuf or hammerfall :P i would do a video response but my computer wont let me up load my webcam videos :(
lol your more like a cuddly teddy u dont scare or intimidate me at all looks are only skin deep and change all the time personality blood and bone it's there forever anyway goths and all them seem realy cool to me i'm one of those people that can adapt something really fast,anyway i still think ur cute anyway yeah and the fact i'ma Roman catholic but never go to church lol anyway yeah u seem like a really cool guy to hang out with :D!
Can I ask you a question? Could you possibly give me a list of subcultures you know or might have heard about? I dont know why but I love doing independant study into all the misconstrued subcultures and Im starting to run out of things to study. I never judge anyone cause in the end its their life and if something makes them happy than I <3 them for their happiness. I just want to know everything I can about them... if you dont mind me asking... :)
Haha yeah, I'm pretty much all about Darkwave, Ethereal, Gothic Trip-hop, and Goth Rock for the most part. Oh, and a good dose of Industrial/EBM too. Of course that's not the limits of my musical tastes, nor do I necessarily believe that musical taste should define someone's identity.
But yeah, Switchblade Symphony, Cindergarden, Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Cocteau Twins, The Awakening, VNV Nation, Wumpscut... <3
@BondSlaveSoldier oooh cocteau twins one of my faves yeah i also like dream pop i love autumns grey solace. I live in america and there is a few goths out here just mainly in la cus they have the goth clubs over there. is there alot where you are?
I actually don't see too many Goths around my area, except at the clubs, yeah. I'm from Anaheim, which I've found tends to have a large Punk population, but there a good number of Goths in Fullerton, one of the next city's over.
@BondSlaveSoldier i was born in anaheim! haha im a senior in high school and people dress goth but they dont know the meaning or music where i am theres just me and this one kid who listens to music from the batcave era like christian death and some bauhaus
This is really fantastic. Do your best- a great way to have people listen to you is just to honestly be among them. This is really inspiring and something I have thought of doing myself. Take care, my friend.
Hey bro, be encouraged. I like what you had to say. The church doesn't take alternative groups seriously enough. And, the Christians who do take them seriously are few and far between.
hey guy your video is awesome ur more than cool i like your attitude!:) iam goth too... you were right and i think u were really a good goth work more to be like me i introduce my self iam just a girl my real name is ashley iam a goth like u ummm... thats all nice to meet you gothboy great sentence cool awesome video u make nice going keep on make more videos._.
Your right the devil is real, and how easy it is to do everything you want without feeling guilt or remorse. I was a vampire and studied the satanic bible, etc. The devil love you now but when you die you have no use to him. I thought I would get a piece of hell, but the devil will put you into the heart of hell in his circus.
Its a pleasure to see another person who can enjoy the alternative scene and not bash Christianity. I was raised Mormon, but I fell away due to a lack of faith. Ive studied every religion that I can, so I'm quite well spoken on the topic. Im now a follower of the church set down by Anton Szandor Lavey, but can still appreciate someones devotion to their religion. I wish to remain anonymous but I saw this today and felt compelled to thank you for holding true to your faith.
I know this video is old, But I just wanted to say I'm pretty impressed with your demeanor bro.
I'm not Christian myself, But I know a good thing. And I can't see anything but good coming from emulating Jesus. I don't care if it's real or not, it's still good.
And I know plenty of people in the subculture who have turned away from that goodness simply because they have been met with closed doors and shut eyes on the part of their churches.
It's refreshing to see someone give them a chance :)
I'm very glad you see Christianity and Jesus Himself as a "good thing", there are many who would beg to differ with you! A lot of skeptics like to point to things like the Crusades and claim "guilty by association", which is totally wrong.
Yeah, it's really unfortunate about churches turning some people away, so to speak. My church has been pretty accepting of me since day 1, so there is definately hope out there. : )
The Chamber is pretty cool, though I've been going to Xile for the most part nowadays. I like the DJ at the Chamber better, but Xile's crowd seems a lot more friendly.
I haven't been clubbing in at least a month though... I miss it! D :
Unless you're some scene-kid who thinks you have to be an Atheist/Wiccan/Satanist or be into drugs, alcohol or fetish to be "Gothic" or go to "Goth clubs", I don't see any contradiction between the two. My church has accepted me for who I am since day one, regardless of how I look.
Ahh, ok. Yea its a great game, one of my favorites. Also I'm a fan of your channle here and really admire your knowledge of the Bible. Keep up the good work!
No one has the right to judge anyone. You please keep up the good work. You are showing love to a segment that has been rejected by main stream christianity. Thank you.
Xile is held every wednesday at the Can Entertainment in Garden Grove. Blah I wish there were more goth-type clubs in Orange County but sadly these are the only 2.
Hey good vid im a goth and you were right about goths being rejected alot in society it happens to me in public,church,schools, and in my own household so yea just wanted to say thanks for haveing a heart for us! =)
Haha wow, you just made two huge generalizations. You do realize there actually is a moderate Christian Goth/Alternative community, and even Christian Goth bands, don't you? Also, there are many Goths who practice Wicca, and that is a religion. And if Goth's "didn't like having fun," why would they even go to clubs to dance and socialize?
Religious affiliation has nothing to do with being Goth, and just because I've come to a logical conclusion for Christianity doesn't make me a poser.
ha 4:11am beat ya .
NicolasAlexVelasquez 3 months ago
It's really epic what your doing I get alot of shit from people that are Christians and I am one on how I dress and such it drives me insance how most Christians are there snotty and just mean to others... -,.,- it's nice to see someone else with a open mind for once
xlilxcreepyxgirlx 6 months ago
: 000 Your really an amazing looking goth guy ;-;
I don't see any here in houston anymore : ' (
CorruptedCorpseSaku 8 months ago
lol im one of the securitys at bravo glad to know that not all goths are satanic maybe ill feel a lil more safe at work on sundays jk lol i really like some of the music industrial and ebm good stuff
salman9907 9 months ago
I always hated the mentality of Christians that you have to be a SHEEP. I am NOT A SHEEP, and find anyone calling me one to be derogatory! Sheep have no free thought and depend completely on someone else. Sheep are ignorant and blissfully unaware of the world around them. I don't hate on Christians, I hate on sheep mentality and constantly being told that you are a piece of shit and have no free thought, so much for being sentient.
Schutzraumtechnik999 9 months ago
Yay! I like you (not in the creepy way)
1purplemimi 9 months ago
lol....Sunday school.
Skeletonwitharaygun 11 months ago
You are soooo hot! ;)
Moonbaby083 1 year ago
lol mexican grill goth club.
I wish we had those where I live^^
btw. I recently gave up christianity but seeing you reminds me a lot of the Christian I used to be. I`d be interested to here what you have to say about some of the things that lead me to give up the faith. Not that I`m trying to get you to give it up or anything. I think it`s cool what you`re doing, and I don`t intend to come back to xianity either, but just think it would interesting to hear your thoughts.
okamichamploo 1 year ago
@okamichamploo - Thank you very much : ) I would definitely be interested in hearing what you have to say. Hopefully at the very least we can learn something from each other's stories and points of view. : )
There's a link to my FB page on my channel if you'd like to contact me through there (that's the easiest way to get in touch with me; I don't come on Youtube much these days), but if you're not on there we can message here. : )
BondSlaveSoldier 1 year ago
lol mexican grill goth club.
I wish we had those where I live^^
okamichamploo 1 year ago
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Oh my god, you talk so much shit you have convinced yourself. You talk about being an "individual" yet you are the biggest sheep i've seen. Grow up!
outcast666100 1 year ago
I don't belive in god or the bible. I mean for all we know it's was made up from a crazy guy. But be for that I was cristan and they welcome me even thow i'm gothic. ^_^
yk91o1 1 year ago
@yk91o1 - The crazy-guy theory is pretty unlikely, especially considering the Bible is composed of 66 books written by 40 different authors (thus all 40 would have to be "crazy" and still agree with each other). Many of the accounts recorded in the Bible can be historically/archeologically verified tho, not to mention there's some pretty powerful anthropological evidence supporting the resurrection of Christ, and therefore His divinity, etc.
BondSlaveSoldier 1 year ago 2
@BondSlaveSoldier Sorry, dear ... but "EBM, Darkwave" is not - strictly speaking - Gothic music, since "Gothic ROCK" (emphasis on Rock) is the genre's full name and "EBM, Darkwave" is not Rock. EBM and Darkwave are relatively new additions to the genre (with Industrial being a genre of its own). All the original Goth bands conform to the requirements of Rock.
Twysted666 1 year ago
So you are a wolf in sheeps clothing then. I c.
iatealligator 1 year ago
@iatealligator - No, I'm just being myself. I try to share Christ wherever I am at, and Goth clubs are no exception. If you think my religious identity makes me a poser, then all that shows me is that you're quite ignorant about the Gothic subculture. The subculture does not subscribe to any one religion or lack-thereof. Ask any real Goth that. : P
BondSlaveSoldier 1 year ago 3
POSER!
iatealligator 1 year ago
@iatealligator - And you say this why?
BondSlaveSoldier 1 year ago
it's nice to see there are decent christians out there :)
RedEmeraldMoon 1 year ago
@RedEmeraldMoon Thanks, I certainly try. ^_^;
BondSlaveSoldier 1 year ago
Gruftis
RottingSouls 1 year ago
ha i remember this video. i think i spoke to this guy before :)
cruelty113 2 years ago
Haha well that guy is me. ; P
Did you used to go to Xile?
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
haha your fuckin gorgeous lmao xD
xAIDENxFANx 2 years ago
Hahaha, thanks : B
Not sure how you can tell with the bad video quality, but thank you nonetheless.
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
lol your welcome xD
xAIDENxFANx 2 years ago
OMG UR SOOOOO CUTE o.o sorry i'm wierd but anyway cool video ^^ ur voice is so soft and gentle ur now my new teddy ^^ LOL JKJKJKJK ur soooooooooooo cool
Jojowierdo 2 years ago
Hahahaha, thanks! xD Good to know I'm still relatively attractive or something. ; P
Lol this is like the 4rd comment I've gotten about my voice being gentle (etc) recently, that's pretty cool. xD
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
lol No problem but seriously ur like one of those guys that look like the type that says" dont fuck with me" and yet u seem sooooooooooo teddy like nice kind and gentle and sooooooooooooo coooooool :)
you should listen to spectrum x or noisuf or hammerfall :P i would do a video response but my computer wont let me up load my webcam videos :(
anyway ur so cool :) and cute :)
Jojowierdo 2 years ago
I do scare/intimidate people a lot, which has it's pro's and con's... I just have one of those faces I guess. D :
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
lol your more like a cuddly teddy u dont scare or intimidate me at all looks are only skin deep and change all the time personality blood and bone it's there forever anyway goths and all them seem realy cool to me i'm one of those people that can adapt something really fast,anyway i still think ur cute anyway yeah and the fact i'ma Roman catholic but never go to church lol anyway yeah u seem like a really cool guy to hang out with :D!
Jojowierdo 2 years ago
aww, your sound so friendly :) I wanna squeeze you. lol. in a overly enthusiastic friendly way, Im not hitting on you. :) Im just weird.
Anaprince 2 years ago
Hahaha, thanks! xD
It's okay, I'm weird too. ; P
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
Can I ask you a question? Could you possibly give me a list of subcultures you know or might have heard about? I dont know why but I love doing independant study into all the misconstrued subcultures and Im starting to run out of things to study. I never judge anyone cause in the end its their life and if something makes them happy than I <3 them for their happiness. I just want to know everything I can about them... if you dont mind me asking... :)
Anaprince 2 years ago
your voice is really... calming. lol.
DreadSMC 2 years ago
Hahaha, thanks very much! xD
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
is shoulda watched your whole video my bad then haha sry
yeah im an ethereal head thats my main style of music
birinbirinbirin 2 years ago
Haha yeah, I'm pretty much all about Darkwave, Ethereal, Gothic Trip-hop, and Goth Rock for the most part. Oh, and a good dose of Industrial/EBM too. Of course that's not the limits of my musical tastes, nor do I necessarily believe that musical taste should define someone's identity.
But yeah, Switchblade Symphony, Cindergarden, Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Cocteau Twins, The Awakening, VNV Nation, Wumpscut... <3
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
@BondSlaveSoldier oooh cocteau twins one of my faves yeah i also like dream pop i love autumns grey solace. I live in america and there is a few goths out here just mainly in la cus they have the goth clubs over there. is there alot where you are?
birinbirinbirin 2 years ago
I actually don't see too many Goths around my area, except at the clubs, yeah. I'm from Anaheim, which I've found tends to have a large Punk population, but there a good number of Goths in Fullerton, one of the next city's over.
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
@BondSlaveSoldier i was born in anaheim! haha im a senior in high school and people dress goth but they dont know the meaning or music where i am theres just me and this one kid who listens to music from the batcave era like christian death and some bauhaus
birinbirinbirin 2 years ago
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birinbirinbirin 2 years ago
Haha, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say/ask...
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
im basically saying half the people who say theyre goth listen to metal like that night wish and evenescence bs and there just not real goth.
birinbirinbirin 2 years ago
i hate that evreyone says us goths worshep the devil.
weeeeeehalo 2 years ago 8
I know, right? >: /
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
@weeeeeehalo yea! honestly it pisses me off the core but there isn't much from what i can think of that can make people think otherwise :/
chibixaileen 1 year ago
@weeeeeehalo i meant to the core btw lol
chibixaileen 1 year ago
This is really fantastic. Do your best- a great way to have people listen to you is just to honestly be among them. This is really inspiring and something I have thought of doing myself. Take care, my friend.
EdwardChibisan 2 years ago
wooow ur a hot goth hehe i dont see many goths any more its sad
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Drsatan9 2 years ago
I'm very proud of your heart for ministering to alternative crowds. I have the same desire, hence I try to minister through metal.
jimmyjones2686 2 years ago
Thanks, godspeed brother. : )
BondSlaveSoldier 2 years ago
You have to talk to people! Don't be shy, they are probably drunk anyway lol
GOREgousdEVIL 3 years ago
Hey bro, be encouraged. I like what you had to say. The church doesn't take alternative groups seriously enough. And, the Christians who do take them seriously are few and far between.
God bless you man.
JoelJW 3 years ago 2
very nice. Loved the video.
leave13 3 years ago
Thanks : )
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
Nice words, ..goths clubs are the coolest ;)
LaurelGothic 3 years ago
join the dark side we hot goth chicks!!!! lol
cruelty113 3 years ago 2
Haha well, if the truth did not compel me into a life of purity before God, I'm sure I'd be there. :P
After all... you are right, hot goth chicks are hot indeed. xD
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
Personally I am a Satanist, but I'm glad you are not ashamed of your religon.
MarilynMess 3 years ago
Thanks, that's rather commendable of you to say. : )
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
hey guy your video is awesome ur more than cool i like your attitude!:) iam goth too... you were right and i think u were really a good goth work more to be like me i introduce my self iam just a girl my real name is ashley iam a goth like u ummm... thats all nice to meet you gothboy great sentence cool awesome video u make nice going keep on make more videos._.
pinoyhotproperties 3 years ago
Your right the devil is real, and how easy it is to do everything you want without feeling guilt or remorse. I was a vampire and studied the satanic bible, etc. The devil love you now but when you die you have no use to him. I thought I would get a piece of hell, but the devil will put you into the heart of hell in his circus.
westforestdesigns 3 years ago
hehehe... funny ur right also...-frm.AshleyXD
pinoyhotproperties 3 years ago
Its a pleasure to see another person who can enjoy the alternative scene and not bash Christianity. I was raised Mormon, but I fell away due to a lack of faith. Ive studied every religion that I can, so I'm quite well spoken on the topic. Im now a follower of the church set down by Anton Szandor Lavey, but can still appreciate someones devotion to their religion. I wish to remain anonymous but I saw this today and felt compelled to thank you for holding true to your faith.
mansonfrreak 3 years ago
I know this video is old, But I just wanted to say I'm pretty impressed with your demeanor bro.
I'm not Christian myself, But I know a good thing. And I can't see anything but good coming from emulating Jesus. I don't care if it's real or not, it's still good.
And I know plenty of people in the subculture who have turned away from that goodness simply because they have been met with closed doors and shut eyes on the part of their churches.
It's refreshing to see someone give them a chance :)
iwhisperwolf 3 years ago
Thanks man!
I'm very glad you see Christianity and Jesus Himself as a "good thing", there are many who would beg to differ with you! A lot of skeptics like to point to things like the Crusades and claim "guilty by association", which is totally wrong.
Yeah, it's really unfortunate about churches turning some people away, so to speak. My church has been pretty accepting of me since day 1, so there is definately hope out there. : )
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
I am currently 22 and I go to Xile in Garden Grove, CA.
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
how old r u?
and where do u go to the club?
darknessoftheasward 3 years ago
Nice! So how did you like Chamber? :D
I've been going there since it began back some 6 yrs ago.. though I havent been there in a couple of months :(
anyhows.. hope u had fun there. :)
luzableu 3 years ago
The Chamber is pretty cool, though I've been going to Xile for the most part nowadays. I like the DJ at the Chamber better, but Xile's crowd seems a lot more friendly.
I haven't been clubbing in at least a month though... I miss it! D :
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
I miss the old Chamber days..when they used to play goth/darkwave etc. Nowdays its mostly industrial and power noize..which is fun too :)
and Xile.. I only went there once.. since its on Wed. I couldn't make it cus of school.
Agh.. I share your sadness in missing the clubbing days. All cus of my fear of driving hehe.
Let us now mourn :( hehe
luzableu 3 years ago
hi iam ashley guess u should know me i just say you were pretty cool also...
pinoyhotproperties 3 years ago
hi great comment of urs i see
pinoyhotproperties 3 years ago
So how can you go to Sunday School after a Goth Club? they dont mix at all. be one or the other.
musicchictx 3 years ago
Unless you're some scene-kid who thinks you have to be an Atheist/Wiccan/Satanist or be into drugs, alcohol or fetish to be "Gothic" or go to "Goth clubs", I don't see any contradiction between the two. My church has accepted me for who I am since day one, regardless of how I look.
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
Haha, I love your description, do you play team fortress 2?
HamOnWholeWheat 3 years ago
Haha, thanks. Unfortunately I don't, but I am a fan of the game itself. I'm not too good at FPS games, you see... ^_^;
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
Ahh, ok. Yea its a great game, one of my favorites. Also I'm a fan of your channle here and really admire your knowledge of the Bible. Keep up the good work!
HamOnWholeWheat 3 years ago
No one has the right to judge anyone. You please keep up the good work. You are showing love to a segment that has been rejected by main stream christianity. Thank you.
Rdardenea 3 years ago
Thanks man. : )
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
The Chamber sounds fun, I will have to go one of these days. Have you been to Xile? Very laid back atmosphere there too.
morkogdoven 3 years ago
Sweet deal. Yeah, I try and show up there every Sunday.
I haven't been to Xile before though. Where is that at?
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
Xile is held every wednesday at the Can Entertainment in Garden Grove. Blah I wish there were more goth-type clubs in Orange County but sadly these are the only 2.
morkogdoven 3 years ago
Hey good vid im a goth and you were right about goths being rejected alot in society it happens to me in public,church,schools, and in my own household so yea just wanted to say thanks for haveing a heart for us! =)
Glake100 3 years ago
Haha wow, you just made two huge generalizations. You do realize there actually is a moderate Christian Goth/Alternative community, and even Christian Goth bands, don't you? Also, there are many Goths who practice Wicca, and that is a religion. And if Goth's "didn't like having fun," why would they even go to clubs to dance and socialize?
Religious affiliation has nothing to do with being Goth, and just because I've come to a logical conclusion for Christianity doesn't make me a poser.
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
Hahahahaha, thank you! XD Lol yeah, the black makeup look isn't to everyone's liking I'm sure, but that's okay too.
I like long hair too (obviously), and I credit mine as a gift from God. It's been a part of who I am since oh... 6th grade?
BondSlaveSoldier 3 years ago
AAAHH!!!!!
0_0
You're very handsome... but not into the makeup. :P
I don't really talk to people at clubs either. I once was so shy that I sat in a corner and read a book!
But sitting down is often a good idea if you're a girl in a club... I don't know about American guys, but Aussie guys are very "grabby".
Ps. Long hair is lovely. I think Jesus digs it. :D
bekkynixon 3 years ago