Nice GE. I have an old early 40s Fulton electic SA, and a GE capacitor motor. I have a question about how to put a capacitor start motor back together. I cleaned my GE out, and when i went to bolt it back, the shaft was locked. how do you put these type of motors back together? I put new oilers into it.
@wheelhorsepower62 very carefully. something isnt lineing up. try again but makesure the end plates go on straight. its important you torque the screws the same also.
@animebsd it is nothing more than a standard split phase motor but its built backwards! i am still trying to find out what this configuration is called for a single phase motor. only GE seems to have built these little single phase motors like this. some were rebadged but most you will find are ge.
some people think its a wound rotor motor, but that is a completly different animal than this! its not even close to a wound rotor motor.
This thing is pretty indeed for its simpleness and being heavy-built. Basically an early version of centrifugal relay-start motors (not to confuse with repulsion start ones, because this is not one).
all it is, is an early GE split phase motor built sometime in the 1920's. the centrifugal switch controls a set of windings with a higher resistance than the main windings. the high resistance windings are the start windings. the reason they have a higher resistance is to "Create" so to speak a second phase which allows the motor to start by it self.
I have a GE rotating-field motor rated 1/20hp which I bought at a yard sale; it came out of a washing machine. I cleaned it up (used oven cleaner!) and filed down the brushes and it works great.
well at least honda and toyota are quality vehicals. but your comment should include all modern auto manufactures! not just those two. fords dodges and chevys are just as much of a pain in the ass to work on!
I've seen hondas much worse though. And Fords are very reliable too. And if you look at something like a honda lawnmower, you'll see what I mean. All this advanced circuitry and crap that is just plain unnecessary.
yeah i see what your saying ill just stick with my 1929 and 1941 briggs and strattons! oh and my maytag very very reliable. however my clinton generator i can't keep it running? i think my carb must be full of crud ill have to give it a good cleaning. it used to start on the first pull even after sitting for a year!!!!!
thats just the thing i had to hunt down a replacement gas tank for it as the original rotted out! so i installed a fuel valve with a mesh filter on it in the tank and i cleaned out the carb! ill have to open it up for a look!
I am going to have to correct you a bit. Those metal strips are called slip rings, not commutators. Commutators are segmented copper bars that you normally see on DC motors.
This is obviously a wound rotor AC motor instead of the squirrel cage rotor AC motor which is simply the reverse of your motor's two parts-being the stator and rotor.
yeah your right i dont always speak what im thinking. and wound rotor thanks for the help! its appreciated! im takeing an electrical course in college and havent gotten into motors yet, but i feel ill do ok in that class.
Interesting, never seen an induction motor that's the other way around like that. I don't know why they would have built it like that, why have brushes where you don't need them? If you know what I mean. Perhaps in those days it was the only way they could make the centrifugal switch for the start winding work.
the engineers at ge did it for a reason and i think it may have been to minimise the number of parts altogether. this style motor is very common in the larger size they pop up on ebay commonly and dont sell for much. i think the design was to make it easier to service the motor. brushes are easy to replace anyways
Nice GE. I have an old early 40s Fulton electic SA, and a GE capacitor motor. I have a question about how to put a capacitor start motor back together. I cleaned my GE out, and when i went to bolt it back, the shaft was locked. how do you put these type of motors back together? I put new oilers into it.
wheelhorsepower62 5 months ago
@wheelhorsepower62 very carefully. something isnt lineing up. try again but makesure the end plates go on straight. its important you torque the screws the same also.
1944johndeerel 5 months ago
hey there, I'm wondering if you know how to oil the bearings? i looked around and i couldn't find anything, seems like you would be the guy to ask
jwnordquist1 6 months ago
that is a wicked cool motor!
animebsd 1 year ago
@animebsd it is nothing more than a standard split phase motor but its built backwards! i am still trying to find out what this configuration is called for a single phase motor. only GE seems to have built these little single phase motors like this. some were rebadged but most you will find are ge.
some people think its a wound rotor motor, but that is a completly different animal than this! its not even close to a wound rotor motor.
1944johndeerel 1 year ago
This thing is pretty indeed for its simpleness and being heavy-built. Basically an early version of centrifugal relay-start motors (not to confuse with repulsion start ones, because this is not one).
DragonFlyback256 1 year ago
all it is, is an early GE split phase motor built sometime in the 1920's. the centrifugal switch controls a set of windings with a higher resistance than the main windings. the high resistance windings are the start windings. the reason they have a higher resistance is to "Create" so to speak a second phase which allows the motor to start by it self.
1944johndeerel 1 year ago
I have a GE rotating-field motor rated 1/20hp which I bought at a yard sale; it came out of a washing machine. I cleaned it up (used oven cleaner!) and filed down the brushes and it works great.
douro20 2 years ago
they are very common! but really neat little motors. the smaller sizes are harder to find like mine!
1944johndeerel 2 years ago
It's a neat little beast. Compact, and simple, gets the job done. Why can't everything be built that way? *sigh*
krankiev 3 years ago
i often wonder the same thing?
1944johndeerel 3 years ago
Yeah, companies like honda and toyota need to take this as an example of how to build things. DON'T OVER-COMPLICATE IT.
krankiev 3 years ago
well at least honda and toyota are quality vehicals. but your comment should include all modern auto manufactures! not just those two. fords dodges and chevys are just as much of a pain in the ass to work on!
1944johndeerel 3 years ago
I've seen hondas much worse though. And Fords are very reliable too. And if you look at something like a honda lawnmower, you'll see what I mean. All this advanced circuitry and crap that is just plain unnecessary.
krankiev 3 years ago
yeah i see what your saying ill just stick with my 1929 and 1941 briggs and strattons! oh and my maytag very very reliable. however my clinton generator i can't keep it running? i think my carb must be full of crud ill have to give it a good cleaning. it used to start on the first pull even after sitting for a year!!!!!
1944johndeerel 3 years ago
Yeah. Old briggs- Very good engines. Time has proven it.
Biggest problems with my clinton have been the carb. It isn't the greatest carburetor, but when it's clean, it runs great.
krankiev 3 years ago
thats just the thing i had to hunt down a replacement gas tank for it as the original rotted out! so i installed a fuel valve with a mesh filter on it in the tank and i cleaned out the carb! ill have to open it up for a look!
1944johndeerel 3 years ago
I am going to have to correct you a bit. Those metal strips are called slip rings, not commutators. Commutators are segmented copper bars that you normally see on DC motors.
This is obviously a wound rotor AC motor instead of the squirrel cage rotor AC motor which is simply the reverse of your motor's two parts-being the stator and rotor.
EETechs 3 years ago
yeah your right i dont always speak what im thinking. and wound rotor thanks for the help! its appreciated! im takeing an electrical course in college and havent gotten into motors yet, but i feel ill do ok in that class.
1944johndeerel 3 years ago
Just a quick note to commend you for an outstanding video.
GaslightAlley 3 years ago
thank you for thinking that much of my video.
1944johndeerel 3 years ago
That's really cool! you have quite a collection of old motors!
coolbluelights 3 years ago
COOL.
dudleythemoose 3 years ago
Interesting, never seen an induction motor that's the other way around like that. I don't know why they would have built it like that, why have brushes where you don't need them? If you know what I mean. Perhaps in those days it was the only way they could make the centrifugal switch for the start winding work.
mturgeon2 3 years ago
the engineers at ge did it for a reason and i think it may have been to minimise the number of parts altogether. this style motor is very common in the larger size they pop up on ebay commonly and dont sell for much. i think the design was to make it easier to service the motor. brushes are easy to replace anyways
1944johndeerel 3 years ago
take more apart lol also thanks for makeing
mylesgifford123 3 years ago
eventually
1944johndeerel 3 years ago