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  • Hi there, what do you think of the trade-off: netbook -- easier to handle pdf's, but won't be e-ink, vs ereader -- e-ink, but hard to handle pdfs? (I'm assuming that e-readers don't handle pdf's well, from what I've heard). I personally would like to be able to read pdf books primarily. Is it true that e-readers aren't great for pdf books?

  • @Quilvis I have updated my view on what is the best PDF Ebook reader, and wrote about it here

    johnderrick*com/miscellaneous/­john-derrick-personal/my-searc­h-for-the-best-pdf-ebook-reade­r-is-over/

    (change teh "*" into a "." and the link will work for you.

    It might surprise you to see what I am using now.

  • I'd love an e-reader for PDF, and ONLY for PDF - and they are useless for PDF. Kindle etc. is being sold because it pulls in the money - it's like those cheap printers - the ink cartridges are more expensive than the printer. With e-books, you keep on spending money and spending money on new books - why not just go and buy second hand paperbacks and a pair of cheap specs? An e-reader is just yet another silly gadget.

  • I love my EeePC 900, but it sucks for PDF books.

  • @ynothughes  Why do you think it sucks for PDF books? I have a Kindle now, but I still think the old EeePC shows PDF's better. Properly formated, and in full color.

  • This is a nonsense.

    Stupid waist of time

  • I am looking for a portable, handheld e-reading device that can view pdf, epub, and maybe html files. I do not see a netbook as a solution. I dislike paper books because they are uncomfortable and tiring to hold and need a certain lighting. I also read many free books. Netbooks only solve the lighting and free books problems. It is still large, requires more than one hand to hold, has a extraneous part (the keyboard is unnecessary to reading).

  • @brush200400 You dislike paper books? I've never met anyone who actually has a dislike for paper books? Did a paper book do something to you when you were a child?

    All joking aside, it seems nothing has been invented that fits your criteria as of yet.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom Oh really? Then why are people buying electronic readers? Also, as ereaders come out, they get better. Soon theyll have what i want

  • @brush200400

    I never said that people are not buying Ereaders. What I said was that nothing has been invented yet that fits your criteria. Having backlighting and e-ink is a difficult problem to overcome. I have no doubt that many great minds are working on it as I type this.

  • Actually I think you are totally right. I was thinking about buying an e-book reader for PDF texts only - such as PDF movie scripts, etc. and have been nosing round the internet for suggestions. I live in Switzerland, so I can't just order a Kindle from Amazon USA, here it costs189 francs, then they are constantly producing new Kindles, which is frustrating - aren't the old ones good enough? A netbook is the solution! Don't worry about those nasty people, they all work for Amazon and Nook.

  • @SuedeNyme Thanks for your nice comment. The best thing about the netbook is that it can do about 10,000 more things than a Ereader such as a Kindle. It sure is funny how some people get so worked up over this video though. Have a wonderful day.

  • Well there are netbooks that aren't that big so I will think of it as a possibility. I have many scientific papers on A4 format so a reader that cannot appropriately show them would be pretty useless to me.

  • @inotaishu1 That is true, there are even smaller netbooks. Let me know how it goes.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom got the new sony reader and i am satisfied

  • @inotaishu1

    Which model? Glad to hear you found a device you are happy with. :)

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom PRS-T1, only searching for one of these ... envelopes or whatever they are called in english. My reader already has some scratches so I want to protect it. Sure there is the one from sony for 40 Euros but next thursday a new one is coming out for less money. So I think I am gonna buy that one.

    So far the reader really hoped, I was able to lock through alot of articles and papers for my wikipedia-article.

  • Ha ha! Of course, use a computer to read eBooks! Brilliant! If you carry this in your pocket make sure to wear a belt AND suspenders so your pants don't fall down! Dude, if you were paid for all the labor put into analyzing and configuring that netbook, you could own a lifetime supply of Kindles! Ha ha! My Kindle broke, now I have hours of PDF document notes and highlights that are lost forever, thanks to Amazon only syncing their profitable eBook formats. Amazon screwed me...

  • I know this is an old video and all, but I have an Asus Eee PC too and I thought this might be useful: there's a Linux Ubuntu version for netbooks. It really works great with asus, after a little fiddling i got support for all of the features including wifi, so I didn't lose anything I'd get with windows, and it loads faster and works faster as well. Not to mention it's now bug and virus free.

  • @mornmeril I'll have to look into that. Thanks for sharing that.

  • I agree with you. Good video.

  • @TallerPCReparar Thanks.  :)

  • Even if this video is 2 years old they still had tablet computers back then. No sensible person is going to want to read pdf's on an awkward netbook. Please delete this video.

  • This video must be taking the piss!!!

  • hhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @mouniros75 iiiiiiiiiiiiii

  • you're kidding, right?

  • Is this video a joke?

  • Thanks I agree with you. I did the same.

  • @TallerPCReparar  Thanks for commenting! :)

  • thanks a lot , i think its a very brilliant idea

  • @hanzofunakoshi Thanks for your comment.  :)

  • If you are using mostly the internet, then go with IPad - of course, if you don't mind the price. One can get a netbook for a far cheaper price with more functionality. But some basic laptops have the same price as well. But Netbooks outweigh in convenience when compared to laptops. The problem with Readers supporting PDF is that there is limitation to increasing font size and some won't even recognize the scanned PDFs.

  • Since this video is outdated, perhaps it should be deleted. People were expecting an actual eReader description -- hence the anger.

    But I agree, Netbooks are better PDF and CHM readers than wasting your money on eReaders. I recently returned my reader for similar reasons.

  • @rodeo179 If the netbook is STILL a better reader for PDF and CHM than the current flock of Kindles and ereaders out there, and it is, then this video is not out dated.

  • I LOVE TO USE "auto scroll" and "read out loud" function ,just sit there and read, no hands required :)

  • I totally agree with this video. So far there is nothing in the market -in my opinion- that handles pdf books better than netbooks and IPads.

    Sure no one would disagree with that eInk tecnology is the best considering the battery life and eye comfort but till they find a solution for the pdf reflow problem, i would go with the netbooks all the way.

  • @MAFaried woohoo another nice comment. Thanks. :)

  • hahahahahaha. you got me. this is hilarious

  • can u post the link for the software to get the screen to rotate?

  • I used to use my laptop about the same way. There is a word wrap option I used to use. But anyway yes for long term use definitely Kindle ftw. Now no fear of loosing eye sight. I spend all day either looking at a computer screen and Android screen. Reading off of E-Ink is a good rest.

    FYI - Kindle's browser has an article read mode which works great! It's a newspaper!

  • Sheesh people, no need to be so critical of him...

  • @HKichen Thanks for your kind comment. :)

  • if it doesnt use e-ink its useless to me, I don't want to look at a screen before going to sleep, or hold onto a chunky netbook. Yes I know they are small but holding a kindle or kobo next a netbook? Its enormous in comparison, and the battery would only last a few hours as opposed to 4 weeks on the kindle.

  • If my happiness with my little netbook as a PDF reader (and a whole lot more) makes you so angry that you feel compelled to use profanity and vulgar language, you really should seek anger management and counseling of some kind.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom you know if your going to use it for predominantly ebook reader you should think about putting a pixel qi display on it. It will make it alot better. More batt life, eink tech, and you'll be able to read in the sun light.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom

    Have you tried the Kindle since it's update that let's it read PDF files?

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom  Just saw your video today and enjoyed it even though I understand there are a great many more choices today to consider - I have a Kindle 3 which is good for many purposes but at least from my casual tries is not so useful for PDF

    Rodney

  • Wow, I am soooo surprised about the reactions to this video I made for the readers of my blog. So many angry people in the world.

    THIS VIDEO WAS MADE NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO.

    Many of the choices that exist today, did not exist back then. There was no IPAD, and no reasonably priced tablets either.

    I stand by my decision though, and still enjoy my netbook as a GREAT PDF reader

  • ooooooooooooo come on

  • @nathantarmac1 If my happiness with my little netbook as a PDF reader (and a whole lot more) makes you so angry that you feel compelled to use profanity and vulgar language, you really should seek anger management and counseling of some kind.

  • ah...ignore the nutsmoker!!

  • This isn't even funny...

  • u an asshole

  • Excellent idea, John. I have been looking into this as well and after seeing your video took the plunge. Especially after seeing the trick to read the screen sideways. Most of the PDFs I own have color pictures that I am not sure one of the readers can display as well. And the Netbook was about 1/2 the price of a Nook or Kindle. As pertains to eye strain, not an issue for me.

  • One other thing I forgot to mention. For reading plain text documents I have a Fictionwise Ebook Reader, ETI 1150.

  • @giuseppi1955

    Glad to hear it!

    Like you, eye strain isn't an issue for me. I grew up reading text on CRT monitors... now that is eye strain... but LCD appears to have no flicker, so I am not sure why people only get eye strain when it comes to reading books on LCD screens.

    I don't know of any business that uses E-ink technology monitors, and yet all these countless millions of people spend 8 hours a day reading LCD screens.

    Like you, having color was another issue for me.

  • this is not such a good idea. try reading a book while you hold this sideways in a crowded subway or a bus...

  • @Fedotdotdot

    Holding it sideways is exactly how you would hold a book.

  • I have a nook and most of the books I read are in PDF format. So I really don't see the advantage here. I used to read quite a lot at my desktop, and it's just not a comfortable way to read. You want something that isn't back lit. I wouldn't recommend this or the IPad to anyone.

  • I have an Amazon.com Kindle and am not happy that I cannot read DRM documents (from online universties!) with their PDF reader. The idea of a netbook did cross my mind (as soon as I saw the device...) but it is not as easy to carry and hold as the Kindle is. If only Amazon would see that they have a huge (250K readers) market in PDF's that can have a password put in and Wispernet used to authenticate... but, no.

  • It will hurt your eyes trying to read that for hours.

  • @uwontprevail

    I've read many dozens of books on this and so far my eyes feel great.

  • For two months i own the Foxit eSlick and i totally recommend it

  • Hello Mr. Derrick,

    I stumbled across your blog about ereaders, a few weeks ago. I happened to have a netbook which is Asus 1005HA. I installed Windows 7 Pro as my OS.

    Anyway do you read your PDF books outdoors?

    If you do, how did you fix the glare problem?

    Thanks

  • @123456iambelial

    I don't tend to read outdoors, but I did buy my kid a shield type thing that mounts to his PSP.  So when I was at the park one day and it was extremely sunny, I used a similar setup for my netbook. It worked great.

  • This is not really a solution that is just a small laptop. They have limited battery live. They have TFT screens that are not very nice to read off for hours. The main thing is they are absolute dreadful and can be totally un-viewable if you ever take them in direct sunlight, no matter what model you have.

  • @soundmusiclover

    Everything has a limited battery life, but honestly having 7 hours of battery seems long enough for most people. The sunlight thing is no joke....  All you need is something to provide shade, then you are okay. But I don't read books outside. Still, better than Ipad since it overheats in the sun.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom 7 hours can be not enough for week's worth of reading while camping. Sunlight is not a joke, and so isn't LCD backlight harming your eyes. Not to mention weight to carry around.

    Laptops and tablets fail badly as ebook readers, period.

  • I would not be satisfied with that at all.

    I want just the screen part with all the components built in, touch screen and OLED.

  • the best ebook reader is the 100 dollar netbook.

  • This is a great idea but if you want 3g, e ink, small design, micro sd storage & 4 day battery time,I would still get a ebook.  I have decided on a Nook from Barnes and Noble but I was thinking about a netbook first. I am glad I got the Nook. It's got all of the above and it can take a beating too. It reads PDF and EPUB and the geeks have come up with ebook format converters now so I can buy books for the best prices and shop around. If your in the market you may want to check it out.

  • Ectacco Jetbook is more handy imo

  • thank you!! that was a quick answer ;) thnx again

  • JohnDerrickdotcom that's a very nice and clever solution. I was just wondering what about the hard disc? It's not a problem if you move it all the time?? is it a flash memory?

  • @Than0sP

    The model that I chose does have a hard drive in it. (160GB) It's been over a year now, and there has been no problem with it at all.

    It also takes SD cards, and now they have SD cards as large as 64GB.

    I bought a 64GB card for my HD Camcorder (which I didn't own when I made this video obviously) and I can transfer HD movies onto this little netbook too!

    Boy oh Boy you can fit a LOT of ebooks on a 64GB SD Card...

    Good for watching movies too!

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  • i have a kindle its amazing it pays for itself within few days especially if you read as much as i do if i want to read a pdf file ill just boot up my computer lol

  • @MariaVana

    Sure, that makes sense, but what about people who are like me and they already own hundreds of PDF books?

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom People like you should consult Sony.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom i believe u can send em to the kindle and have them change it for u for 10-15 cents

  • I tell you what I find the most interesting about ebook readers today.

    Not all of them have e-ink.

    Outside the Kindle and Sony, many ebook readers are nothing more than LCD screens.

    Of course, many people are calling the soon to be released IPAD a Kindle killer, and it does not use E-Ink either.

    Of course the upside of not using E-Ink is that you get full color displays, which is great.

    Heck, I read an ebook on my Ipod last week...

  • I'm currently looking for an ebook reader. I also though that going the netbook way was the best option, but if your into reading 'a lot' the LCD screens will give you eye strain! I thinks I'll stick to the 'e-ink'!

  • @Edel99

    I hear a lot of people tell me that you should ONLY get an ebook reader that has E-ink.

    Funny to hear in a recent survey that 85% of the people who said they are going to buy the IPAD (which does NOT have E-Ink) are going to use it as an E-Book Reader.

    It's hard to give up full screen color once you are used to having it. :)

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom I was going to buy an iPad to use for an ebook reader, but I have an iPod touch and iPhone so the apps would be pretty useless, you know? : O

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom thats a bit of a biased survey tho. The question to ask is how many people who want to buy an e-book reader are actually buying an ipad?

  • @Primal89

    This video was created years before the iPad was even in development.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom I take my comment back then. Good video by the way.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom, if you turn netbook sideway and read sometimes there is some sort of a glare that hurt your eyes. I found that if you wear really dark sunglasses while reading, your eyes no longer hurt.

    Like slappyd1ck said, you can actually have the pdf read to you, but don't use the built in voice reading capability in adobe.

  • wow, a computer that can read pdf files! awesome, never seen before!

    -.-' if you want to read hundreds of pages per day without an e-ink screen you'll become blind in a couple of weeks..

  • @Alexthebestia

    What is up with all the melodrama?

    People have been reading their computer monitors for dozens of years LOOONG before "e-ink" was invented.

    To my knowledge: NO ONE WENT BLIND.

    I have read over 50 books on my little netbook, and guess what. I AM NOT BLIND.

    I've even read books on my ipod, and yet I still can see just fine.

  • @JohnDerrickdotcom

    Take it from a published author, we all write books on PC's with LCD (or even CRT in the old days) Monitors. I don't know any authors who went blind from looking at their LCD monitors for hundreds of hours while writing.

  • lucky you. I spend usually about 15-18 hours per day looking at the monitor and my sight is beginning to pay the consequences. if I can spend some of those hours on a screen that doesn't strain my eyes, I prefer to choose it.

    of course a netbook can do more things than an ebook reader, but e-readers are made just for reading, and using a computer to do that is not the solution for me.

  • That makes perfect sense to me. :)

  • @Alexthebestia, sorry to hear that your eyes are hurting. Give your monitor a try with really dark sun glasses and see if it helps. Let me know if it works or not, so far I tested it only on myself so I need to know if it work on others so I can recommend it.

  • @MmmhMarky

    I bought some years ago this book: "david de andelis - How I cured my myopia" I searched a little about it and I found the forum on his site, where tons of people followed his suggestions and improved their sight a lot. I never read it, maybe it's time to start :)

  • @Alexthebestia, I don't know that book. But my guess to cure myopia, you have whatever you're looking at close and in focus. After that, you inch it out a little farther and practice viewing it.

    Anyway, I believe your bad eye sight is the result of aging. You just happen to be aging while using the computer and it got a bad rap. I watch everyday what aging do to people like increase body weight, balding, leaky urine, saggy breast, etc. Your body wants to give up after reaching adulthood.

  • @MmmhMarky

    I'm 19... :(

  • @Alexthebestia, I had myopia at that age too. But back then we couldn't afford a computer.

  • My bad, I thought you had perfect vision until you reached adulthood.

    PS: Alexthebestia, guess you better stay away from the apple's Ipad than.

  • @Alexthebestia

    come on now, that's bullshit. I play video games 16 hours per day and I'm not close to getting eye damage

  • we're not all the same... so if I follow your idea, you're saying that if I'd go to the gym 3 hours per day, three times a week, I can go to mr. olympia in a couple of years? good to know, thank you, and lucky you if your eyes are still good.

  • if i can't tell you that you'll become mr olympia by going to the gym for 3 years, why can you tell John that he will go blind in a couple of weeks by reading from a computer ???

    lol

  • Yeah, netbooks are awesome. It can do alot of things that a Kindle cannot.

    We bought 2 netbooks one is used as a cash register, and it stays on for 11 hours a day 7 days a week. It has been working for almost a year. The second one is a backup.

    BTW, I both use CDisplay and CDisplayEX as my comic book viewer. One is better to view images while the other allows window explorer to make thumbnails of the first images in the zip or rar files. I have it set to turn all my pages right automatically.

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  • Also, check out the comic book readers. You don't need to read comics to use them. Basically, these comic book readers will open up your zip or rar files and let you see pages one after the other. This way, you don't need to convert your stack of images to a pdf form, but maintain it in it's original.

    Just to summarize, an ebook reader can hold thousands of books while a netbook can hold thousands of books + a computer.

  • Thanks for those great tips!

    There certainly is a lot more a person can do with a netbook than a Kindle... and you can do it all in color too!

  • John, I like your video. I did the same to both my old laptop and netbook. Also, if you tweak the setting in the full screen mode to cover and uncover, it feels like flipping through pages. Also, tell your netbook to do nothing if the cover is closed.

    Install a free text to speech software ( I use SayzMe). And in Adobe's pdf reader, please Ctrl+a then Ctrl+c and you can have your netbook reads to you. Not seeing is even easier on the eye than an ebook reader.

  • I am going to have to try both of these.

  • "I was looking for a new printer, and so I ended up with this... car!"

    Eh, sorry Sir-Mumbling, but erm... an e-book is NOT a laptop. An e-book has an e-paper display, one that doesn't tire your eyes.

  • @Thijzo

    Yes, an e-paper display is nice. I know.

    But your analogy is not correct, because a car will not print, nor server any of your printing needs.

    My netbook (which is years old now) did (and still does) read ebooks without any problems.

    I can read ebooks, listen to audio books, play games, watch movies, let my kids watch movies in the car, look up things on the internet, set appointments, run a calendar, make calls on Skype, Video Chat, send emails, instant messages and so much more.

  • Well, in 2010 PixelQi will start selling their displays for netbook makers. These are the people behind the screen used in the OLPC which supports two modes: a normal one, and another one designed to work in direct sunlight, turning off the backlight. Works pretty much like an e-reader. Just wait for them.

  • Um, this doesn't use e-ink technology...

  • @xXxDragunov14xXx

    yes, it CAN display color.

  • the main problem is, that ebook readers are WAY TOO OVERPRICED.

    come on, 200€ / 300$ for the cheapest reader ?

    i used my msi u115 (no spam, u cant buy it anymore) as a reader, which runs 13 hours. but now im looking for the new 100$ readers (TFT). very light, and another screen to work with.

    people work 8+ hours a day with TFTs without problems. but epaper readesr have to justify that they spend an arm for just reading books.

  • Yeah I thought the same, its as good as a reader, plus you can do things you cant do with a reader, but id like to know about the weight difference?

  • Obviously you didn't read any books the last few years

  • This is a laptop, not an e-book reader.

  • Technically, it a netbook, not a laptop.

    But it is similar in price to the Kindle, and it does a whole lot more than the kindle.

    IF you want a REALLY small ebook reader that is ultra portable, and reliable with very good battery life, I would recommend an Ipod Touch.

    I use my touch to do all sorts of things and it fits in my shirt pocket.

  • A netbook *is* a laptop.

    It may be somewhat less powerful than we'd like, but really is, that your netbook, is way, way, way, way... more powerful than my Fujitsu Lifebook, for which I paid a hell of a lot more.

  • IF we are going to call a netbook a laptop, because it has a CPU and can show webpages, read ebooks and perform basic tasks, then by that logic we will have to call today's smart phones laptops also.

    My ipod touch can probably do more than your old lifebook too, but that does not make it a laptop.

  • The netbook is the same s#t as a laptop. Its the same specific thing that an old laptop with the sames or similar properties that you can found on a whatever laptop and you can do the same things. A less consuming CPU? Right, but is the same thing. If anyone call laptop today's smart phone its a moron, because the smart phone have cpu, ram, etc, the same thing as PS3, Xbox 360, but the properties, flexibility and operations of this peripherals does not work in the same way of a laptop.

  • According to that logic your Fujitsu laptop is also a supercomputer.

  • Now Your a Genius :D But i cant afford the ipod touch

  • "e-paper" =/= TFT monitor

    your eyes will hurt from too much reading on this thing ...

  • @semigotbanned

    what da stupid language do u always write??

    In true languages you write !=

  • @revolct human language, idiot 

  • An important thing I never mentioned in this video is that you can do a LOT more than just read books with this netbook.

    Yes, when I bought this netbook that was my only intention, but I have since installed several games on it to entertain my children.

    You can even make it into a portable movie player, which is great to keep the children from getting bored on a long drive.

  • I do all these things with my netbook as well. Since it is a tablet, I also take it to class when I'm teaching, instead of the book I am using. However, I also do have two e-book readers. Try sitting outside in a park on a bright summer day with the netbook. Be dazzled by the black screen. Suddenly, an e-book becomes a very attractive option.

  • cons: less readable in the sun (no E-ink)

    and uses power to display... e-readers mostly use battery only to switch pages. no energy used to just display (like a conventional book)

    after all i think you spend less time waiting pages to load with your netbook.

  • what's the program called?? ee rotate?..can i get a link?..i can't find it..

  • good idea, I actually made this decision before seeing this video

    but you missed an important thing: Eye straining, which is definitely obvious in reading from Pc screens,

    but the solution is simple, adjust light to a very faint light & change contrast to be the closest thing to black and white, this will probably make eye straining the least ever

    but comparing benefits, e-reader definitely doesn't worth its price & purpose

    thanks for the nice idea

  • My laptop had a glossy screen, while this nice little netbook has a matte screen, which dramatically cuts down on glare. In fact, the sun can wash out the colors in direct light, but I never can see any reflection on it.

    Very happy with the purchase.

  • i went for the sony prs 700 it has pdf's for all my engineering and calculus books and it was only $350 from crutchfield.

    i already have a 17 and 13 inch laptop that i turned on their side like you did but it doesn't compare to e-paper.

  • Hello moechock....

    I put a lot of thinking into to, and I came to the same conclusion.

    One of the best things about this model is that the battery lasts a long time. They call it "full day" computing... but it's a 7 hour battery. I usually get about 6 hours 20 minutes out of it.

  • I actually put some thinking into it and it's best if I buy one of these small notebooks I guess than buying a ebook reading device, so I have a question, how long does the battery last?

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